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8459205 No.8459205 [Reply] [Original]

Why is Sands of Time so heavily hyped up while the others in the trilogy barely get mentioned?

>> No.8459214

>>8459205
Because they were both kind of sloppy. 2 is divisive because it has good combat but a weird edgy tone and some really bad bugs, and 3 is mostly just kinda... lukewarm. Not bad but really doesn’t stand out compared to its predecessors

>> No.8459215

Because they were Ubishoveled out

>> No.8459296

>>8459205
I rememver when these all came out. The only one that felt right was sands, the rest were just following trends like teenage angst/emo shit.

>> No.8459307

>>8459205
Replayed them recently, WW has the best gameplay by far, SoT is comfy but braindead easy and the combat is extremely repetitive with fuck all enemy variety and only like 3 combos that you spam over and over. TT is whatever, stealth + QTE kills felt tacked on.

>> No.8459893

>>8459205
normies think ww soundtrack is deathmetal or some shit

>> No.8459894

>>8459205
btw, reminder that starforce bricks modern windows

>> No.8459972

>>8459205
Is this better than AssCreed or not?

>> No.8459979

>>8459307
This.
WW is the best.

>> No.8459985

>>8459205
Because Sands of Time (GBA) is the only good Prince of Persia game that Ubisoft made.
At least /vr/-wise.

>> No.8460206

It isn't a trilogy, it had a fourth game people don't remember named the Forgotten Sands ironically enough

>> No.8460228

this is such a weird series. the first game was a pretty massive hit. combat was pretty meh but it had a nice sense of adventure and the prince narration was interesting. then the other two games are pretty weird and bland, it took me a few years to even realize it was even the same prince. they are barely remembered and it seems to be for good reason. all I remember reading about them is that warrior within is buggy as fuck

>> No.8460261
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8460261

Because Sands of Time is excellent. I haven't played Warrior Within but I have played Two Thrones. It is a huge disappointment that they decided to focus more on combat than in SoT in TT. Not only were the combat sections the weakest part of SoT, I'm not clamoring to have it revamped and have more combat sections. The best parts of the 3D Prince of Persia games is utilizing all of the characters skills to traverse environments on the full 3D axis and get to the end point of the section to get to the next obstacle course.

>> No.8460291

a rehash of a good game is still just a rehash

>> No.8460362

>>8459205
2 is absolute garbage and ubi literally removed EVERYTHING that made the first game what it was. That company never should have been trusted again after that. The third is a great game but the story is not as memorable as the first and has a lot of problems that mostly stem from trying to retcon the edgy faggot prince from warrior and turning back into the charming, ignorant prince from the first game. TT is the best game technically but SoT will always be my favorite. Fuck WW.

>> No.8460396

>>8460206
That game is also pretty good. Shit story but great platforming and combat.

>> No.8460401

>>8460228
The first game wasn't a hit commercially. Critics loved it but nobody bought it, that's why ubi went in such a different direction for the sequel.

>> No.8460407

>>8460261
Warrior Within is the game that went overboard with the combat with respawning enemies and bullet sponge enemies. TT got it correct. The majority of the combat involved using stealth and QTEs which fits the tone of the game. Enemies are often part of a puzzle, not a nuisance between puzzles like they were in WW.

>> No.8460414

>>8460206
The wii version was better

>> No.8460428

Whatever happened to that remake of sands of time?

>> No.8460437

>>8460428
Indefinitely delayed because of the negative fan response. Wouldn't be surprised if they just cancel it.

>> No.8460440

>>8460428
>>8460437
The release date got pushed back again to 2022. Last I heard the fired the Indian woman that was in charge of it but that was over 6 months ago. I hope they release it, I was actually looking forward to it.

>> No.8460958

>>8460206
Not /vr/
Also it basically was a movie tie-in spin-off cashgrab.
Wii version was the only good one.

>> No.8460978

>>8459205
No clue. Warrior Within is absolute kino though, I replay it almost annually.

>> No.8460981

>>8459307
>>8459979
>>8460978

Based chads. Warrior Within might be edgy as hell but its the peak of the series. Replayed it about a year ago when my PC broke down and it still holds up.

>> No.8460985

>>8460981
It's trash, and anyone who likes that game is the exact retard ubisoft was trying to attract when they released it

>> No.8461009

>>8459205
>went from a persian guy to an edgy kratos clone

>> No.8461034

>>8460261
>I haven't played Warrior Within
>The best parts of the 3D Prince of Persia games is utilizing all of the characters skills to traverse environments on the full 3D axis and get to the end point of the section to get to the next obstacle course.
You'd probably like Warrior Within. The platforming starts off great, but then partway through the game there's a big twist to the design that puts those traversal skills to the test.

>> No.8461041

>>8461034
the platforming in WW is the worst of the three.
anon said:
>all of the characters skills to traverse environments on the full 3D axis and get to the end point of the section to get to the next obstacle course.
That is exactly what the 1st and 3rd games are. WW is a mess of backtracking and running in circles. It never feels like you are moving forward/

>> No.8461235

>>8460958
>Also it basically was a movie tie-in spin-off cashgrab.
So you didn’t play it

>> No.8461271

>>8460985
Compulsive contrarian

>> No.8461293

>>8461235
Are you saying that Ubisoft returned to Sands of Time continuity after finishing the story and rebooting it, because they geniunely wanted to make a Warrior Within prequel (or rather a four different games that share the same name set in that period) and not because there was a movie coming out, which presents an opportunity for getting money from the hype?

>> No.8461385

>>8460958
That 4th game did indeed suck and make no sense but you gotta be seriously retarded to think that game was a movie tie in

>> No.8461559

Is it just me, or are Warrior Within and Two Thrones a lot laggier than Sands of Time? I have all three games on PS2, and SoT runs fine for me, but I remember parts of WW and TT where the framerate would tank.

>> No.8461924

>>8461385
While it wasn't an adaptation, it was most certainly a movie tie-in.

>> No.8461927

>>8459205
because they were just rehashes of the first

>> No.8461972

>>8459205
I loved ' Sands of Time'. It was a perfect translation to 3d, just in the way Mario and Zelda were. Great puzzles and atmosphere. Gave it to a friend who loves Zelda and he didn't think much of it. Didn't even finish it. I mean wtf, the puzzles were way cooler than Zelda. Twilight princess even ripped off some stuff.

>> No.8461979
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8461979

>>8459205
Prince of Persia peaked on DOS

>> No.8462151

>>8460414
honestly the wii version is one of my favorite games in the series, it's up there with the first two and SoT for me

>> No.8462176

>>8461293
They went back to SoT trilogy because the 2008 reboot failed so hard.

>> No.8462180

All of them rocked.

What happened to this franchise?

I even enjoyed that weird Xbox 360 game where it was impossible to lose.

>> No.8462183

>>8462180
It turned into Assassins Creed

>> No.8462187

>>8462180
Ubisoft didn't want to pay Jorden Mechner anymore for the license, so they made Assassin's Creed instead which was originally going to be a new Prince of Persia.

>> No.8462205

>>8462183
>>8462187
Oh, rad. I loved Assassin's Creed 1 and 2, including the additional Ezio games, Black Flag was fun to I guess. Not sure they scratched the same itch as Prince of Persia but I had a good time.

>> No.8462212

>>8459205
Sands: first of its kind, surprisingly great reboot
Warrior Within: early 2000s numetal wigger edition; embarrassing.
That last one I can't even remember: a mediocre product no one can relate to. Barely polished over Sands.

>> No.8462216

>>8462205
They were fun for awhile when they still included some platforming and puzzle sections but there hasn't been anything like that since brotherhood.

>> No.8462221

>>8462205
do you like eating shit as well? seems right up your alley.

>> No.8462243

>>8459894
>implying I'd play them legit anyway
Hell, implying I'd even both with PC versions with no Xinput and missing effects or god knows what else has to be patched in. If said patches are even available. I would guess Dolphin and PCSX2 are far better experiences.

>> No.8462257

>>8462221
Kind of toxic to insinuate it's in poor taste to enjoy a little bit of poopoo here and then

>> No.8462263

>>8461271
>Warrior Within is the best one is the status quo, normie opinion
Do you really believe Sands being the best and the sequels being OW THE EDGE and meh respectively isn't the common take?

>> No.8462356
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8462356

>>8459205
I don't hate them but they just couldn't top the first one.
2 had a lot of cool ideas that didn't pay off properly, setting wasn't as good as the first one, worse pacing, felt rushed, and story started strong but over time felt like an afterthought. I barely remember the puzzles so they must be forgettable.
Get the feeling WW devs probably had to cut a lot of stuff during development that would've made the game better. Either budget or time or both.

3 was just by the numbers, average, no ambition, aimless, playing it safe and clearly going for that GoW hype. Not bad just nothing special, the game would've been forgotten if it wasn't for the brand.
The dark prince was a cool idea but that went nowhere. Would've been better if it was something that was built up since 1 or 2, not just tacked on poorly into the lore in 3.
After the first game it just felt like they were making shit up as they went along, no clear vision like the first game.
I liked the song and darker edgy tone of 2, though

>> No.8462370
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8462370

>>8460440
They better not censor Shahdee

>> No.8462775

>>8459205
Closest thing a game series can get to body horror by being more and more degenerated each title until it turns into Assassin's Creed and then keeps degenerating from there like The Thing.

>> No.8463113

>>8462370
that's ww

>> No.8463207

>>8460985
It was an 7/8 out of 10 when reviewed. Some complained the "edgy" nu-metal soundtrack was not their taste. But it was that era, Scorpion king had Godsmack on the soundtrack, and maybe it's a bit nostalgic and silly.
But the game is good, Warrior Within has some excellent themes and platforming, difficult bosses. And decent design. It's also good value because it has an above average length IIRC. Those who don't like it probably never finished it.

>> No.8463227

>>8459894
>>8462243
The trilogy is on GoG DRM free with X-input support.

>> No.8463228

>>8463207
I like it but it was soo edgy it was funny

>> No.8463230

>>8461009
Warrior Within came out before the first God of War.

>> No.8463236

>>8463207
I might be alone here, but I thought the bog standard Arabian nights theme of SoT felt a tad bland, and the dark edge of Warrior Within give it a unique twist.

>> No.8463240

>>8462212
Was PoP the first to have wall running? Did they pioneer it? They deserve some credit at least zoomy.
A lot of kino games like Darksiders 2 were inspired by it.
Also, the scaling of the tower of Babel was a fun bit in TT. But yes it was mostly forgettable.

>> No.8463241
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8463241

>>8462370
whoa momma

>> No.8463268

>>8463236
Yeah seeing some strange corrupted shadow character running away and wondering who it was. Then getting into a fight with some steampunk golem automata. Good times.

>> No.8463715

>>8463236
>>8463268
>>8463207
That's nice. They took everything that was unique about SoT and turned it into a generic action adventure game with an edgy dark soundtrack and theme, which as anon pointed out was the style at the time. Which is what makes it complete garbage. It was meant to appeal to |gamer bros" and well, I can see that it did.

>> No.8463769

>>8459205
social discourse and zoom'bie morons not having the capability to have individual thoughts.
WW was the best game of the quadrilogy fyi.

>> No.8463801

>>8459205
Sands of Time was a huge deal when it came out. Animation, graphics, fluidity combat and physics were impressive, it was a nostalgia novelty and big return for PoP for boomers and xers although I was 11 when it dropped.
Everything afterwards was too edgy and different, first one has the most magic and cohesiveness.

Just found out Ubisoft is letting their Indian wing remake this, can’t wait to see what a rotten stinker that’s gonna be or why they feel it needs to be remade.

>> No.8463804

>>8463801
It's been delayed multiple times. It was supposed to come out in early 2020 but the "fans" (i.e. people who never played the game) bitched on twitter about the way the graphics look so apparently they are redoing the thing from the ground up. They also fired the project lead 6 months ago.

>> No.8463816

>>8463804
Delicious, can’t wait to see what a train wreck it will be.
So true about “fans”, just redditfaggots and YouTube zoomers who want old thing to be new thing because they are bored with life.

>> No.8464172

>>8459205
1. cringe pseuds focusing on the romance which undoubtedly was the best executed in sands of time
2. plebs being filtered by ww and ttt (the former especially is more difficult, although both of the games are harder than sot)
3. "most famous game syndrome", they played the most popular game in the series (also the only of its trilogy to be created by jordan mechner)
take your pick
also, a friendly reminder:
ww > forgotten sands (wii) > ttt > forgotten sands (pc) > sot
i couldn't care less about the romance and sot didn't have much going for it outside of that, the combat is much more simplistic compared to the other entries, the same goes for level design

>> No.8464191

>>8459205
charming classic adventure vs forced attempts at being hip that failed

>> No.8464197

>>8459307
>>8459979
>>8460978
>>8460981
>>8464172
Glad to see some WWchads here. It's unironically one of my favorite video games ever. I wish it had less backtracking in certain parts (they really overdid it with how many times they force you to go through the clock tower).

>> No.8465870

>>8462216
>>8462205
the ezio trilogy was where the series peaked.

my main problem with the AC games was how they always pulled you away from the assassin's story to make you do some dumb bullshit as desmond & the scooby doo gang.

>> No.8465907

>>8465870
I didn't mind those parts. Playing as Desmond was alright in terms of gameplay, he controlled just like in the animus. I liked the modern platforming parts because they were linear. They made it worse as the series moved on when they switched from actually playing outside of the animus to whatever the first person computer hacking bullshit was.

>> No.8466143

>>8459205
Because the pole swinging and running up walls in 3D with a limited time rewind mechanic (which couldn’t always save you, much to the players chagrin) was an imaginative and successful adaptation of the original very popular game.

>> No.8466150

>>8463715
It's not that simple, and as an argument lacks nuance. You're saying you didn't bother with it? Some people have a tendency to take an all or nothing approach with judgment of a game. There will be parts that reflect the past version of the games, but not everything is guaranteed to appeal to you. Saying that it is 100% garbage is not fair to the dev team. And whatever happened to the fun of just playing a game for the novel experience? My father was playing this game and enjoying it just for the novelty. Even so, it's better than you're saying it is.

>> No.8466158

>>8466150
I've played SoT over 100 ties, WW probably around 25, and TT over 50. WW is a shit prince of persia game. If people like it fine, but I have every right to bitch about it and call it a shit game because it so completely deviated from the style of the first game which they went back to for the 3rd game because the 2nd was so poorly received. If people like WW as an action adventure game fine, that doesn't mean it's not a poor prince of persia game and the worst of the 3.

>> No.8466178

>>8466158
So shit you played it 25 times? Ok. You don't like change much, do you?

>> No.8466206

>>8466178
I've been playing these games since they were first released, and it just got to the point where I could beat them in 1 sitting and would go back to them when I was between other games or didn't have a lot of time to play. I can beat the first one in under 4 hours without really thinking while I'm playing, it's been a bit of a stress reliever for me over the years.

>> No.8466207

>>8466158
>I've played SoT over 100 ties, WW probably around 25, and TT over 50
that is a disgusting act