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8452772 No.8452772 [Reply] [Original]

I keep seeing people say that Super Mario All Stars is worse than the original NES versions, in terms of gameplay. What changed to make it worse? As far as I can see, everything is just about the same when it comes to the game physics.

>> No.8452776

They censored the cool green fireballs inside Toad Houses in SMB3.

>> No.8452781

>>8452776
>in terms of gameplay

>> No.8452783

>>8452781
Fireballs and Toad Houses are part of gameplay last time I checked.

>> No.8452785

>>8452783
autist

>> No.8452790

Censored green fireball in the toad houses

>> No.8452793

>>8452785
I accept your concession gracefully.

>> No.8452821

>>8452772
heard there's a block glitch in mario 1/lost levels but idk how much it really changes

>> No.8452836
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>>8452793
>y-y-y-you mad!

>> No.8452838

>>8452836
I accept your admission of surrender.

>> No.8452869

>>8452836
Took a turn for the spergin' route there

>> No.8452874

>>8452772
Aren’t the physics more floaty and slidy? Been a while since I played All-Stars.

>> No.8452948

>>8452776
Not what censorship is
Shoot yourself

>> No.8452949

>>8452948
It literally is.

>> No.8452954

>>8452772
Not true for SMB1 and Lost Levels. The controls are stiffer than the NES originals and you don't bounce off bricks the same way. Not sure if Mario 2 or 3 have any significant differences.

>> No.8452969

>>8452772
they censored the green fireball in toads house

>> No.8453070

>>8452776
Yet another cretin who doesn't know what censorship is.

>> No.8453076

>>8453070
Your resistance only makes my fireball greener.

>> No.8453082

>>8452821
super mario jumps up through brick blocks when breaking them instead of bouncing back down like in the original
in SMB's 4-1 there's a pit under a block structure that can't be cleared the same way because of it at least

>> No.8453148
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>>8452838
>>8452869
>y-y-y-you mad!

>> No.8453175

>>8453148
Your loss was diligently accepted.

>> No.8453182

>>8452783
The color of fireballs is art, not gameplay. If the fireballs behave the same, there is no gameplay difference.

>> No.8453227

The real take is that Mario didn't move well until 3/world but real niggas only admit that. The based take is Sonic physics were always better and the rings dynamic meant you could take more risks than mushroom shrinky.

>> No.8454120

This thread is a shining example of how /vr/ has gone to shit. It should have never been made or allowed to exist. It is is the cancer that killed this board.

>> No.8454130

>>8452776
kek

Put it simply, some people (mostly romhackers) noticed that the physics on the blocks from SMB1 on All Stars (and by extension Lost Levels) are different from the original NES game, you go through a little bit more when you break a block instead of instantly bouncing off. It's not instantly noticeable unless you're basically a speedrunner of SMB1.
I remember there was a thread about this and searching online, the first time someone ever mentioned something about this change was in about 2002, and someone released a romhack fixing this to make it like the NES physics, around 2006 or so, but not many people seemed to care. It was many years later that people online started mentioning this fact more, it sort of became a "DID YOU KNOW" type of thing.
Other than that change, All Stars is pretty faithful to the originals, I don't recall gameplay differences in SMB2 or 3, and while some people might prefer the originals more, and that's fine, I think the remakes have their own material to stand on their own too. More backgrounds, effects, etc. But not overdone, just nice little details that enrich the visuals up for 16-bit standards, just enough.

>> No.8454157

>>8452772
Gameplay feels sort of similar and floaty overall, not as tight as the original three main mario games

>> No.8454163

>>8454157
>floaty
how?

>> No.8454176

>>8453227
>The real take is that Mario didn't move well until 3/world but real niggas only admit that.
SMB1 is underrated now simply because of how incredible SMB3 is. Yet when I think about what the single greatest pure platformer is I keep going back to the first game. I feel like short, linear games were abandoned for all the wrong reasons.

>> No.8454353

>>8453182
you are a tasteless philistine

>> No.8454391

>>8453182
>>8453070
>>8452948
You all deserve the replies you are getting for falling so hard for such a blatantly obvious troll.