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Anonymous Sat Dec 18 15:35:56 2021 No.8433139 [Reply] [Original]

Why does emulation for a console as popular as the PS2 suck so immensely? Shitcube emulation is ten times better than this glitchy mess.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 18 15:38:14 2021 No.8433145 because the "emotion engine" is a load of shit. everything even slightly notable works fine in software mode and has for 10 year now though

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 18 15:40:29 2021 No.8433152 this has been discussed a bajillion times the ps2 is made out of nipponese black magic that's a mindfuck to program and equally a mindfuck to emualte

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 18 15:44:35 2021 No.8433154 >>8433139 I'd stake my life on it being correct at native, with a simple setting, or software. In any case oh nooooo a textbox flaw. The poor children. Suck a dick.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 18 15:46:01 2021 No.8433162 >>8433154 Native looks like ass even on the low-res CRT I'm using. and the sprite bug is obvious to anyone who isn't literally blind.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 18 15:47:31 2021 No.8433167 >>8433162 Then it would look like ass on hardware too. Native is what it is, and those are 2D assets anyway.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 18 15:49:17 2021 No.8433173 >>8433162 >Complains about accuracy >B-but I didn't want to emulate it accurately

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 18 15:49:53 2021 No.8433175 >>8433167 I don't care that it's low res, but the gaps between the sprites trigger my autism. and the rest of the game is in 3D so I would sacrifice everything else where I to set it to native.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 18 15:51:45 2021 No.8433182 >>8433175 It's still playing the game as it's supposed to. That's literally its only job. Enhancements are nice if you can get them but ultimately secondary. Sure there's not some offset or sprite rounding thing you can change regardless?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 18 15:52:54 2021 No.8433184 >>8433139 Answer the call, OP. Just get a fucking PS2. There are a jillion of them out there

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 18 15:53:24 2021 No.8433186 >>8433184 He wants muh high res, though. He already said that isn't good enough.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 18 15:56:05 2021 No.8433194 >>8433139 >garbage emulation that prioritizes upscaling over running the games correctly PS2 emulation is forever stuck at epsxe levels of shittiness, simple as

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 18 15:56:15 2021 No.8433195 >>8433186 I think he said that the main thing bothering him is the visible seams between sprites.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 18 15:57:43 2021 No.8433201 >>8433195 No. Read again. He acknowledged he can change it to native but muh 3D resolution. Bet there's some fix for hardware uprendering anyway.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 18 15:58:56 2021 No.8433203 >>8433194 Software has been fine for most games for a long time. A 4th gen i5 does the job for most.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 18 16:00:26 2021 No.8433209 >>8433201 Oh, wow. That's incredibly retarded. These are PS2 games that we're talking about here. I hope OP finds their way.

Anonymous Sat Dec 18 16:00:37 2021 No.8433213

>>8433184
I just don't like collecting OK? Plus, CRT TVs just take up too much space in my room. it's much more convenient to just emulate everything.

>>8433195
this

>>8433201
I wouldn't mind playing it on a TV with an analog signal, but it's unbearble on a CRT monitor with a digital signal. so the resolution has to be higher no matter what. no other console gives me issues like this.
the only thing I can't stand is 3D environments being rendered at a lower resolution than the screen you're playing on. the graphics don't bother me otherwise, because like I said; I wouldn't mind playing it on a TV.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 18 16:03:06 2021 No.8433225 >>8433213 >Plus, CRT TVs just take up too much space in my room. Do you not have a tv with component, composite or s-video around?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 18 16:05:27 2021 No.8433230 >>8433209 You're seriously blind if you can tolerate low 3D resolutions on a (relatively) high-res monitor. that's not comparable to playing it the way it was intended at all, because the analog signal makes this less prominent.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 18 16:08:03 2021 No.8433236 >>8433230 I really disagree, but to each their own. To me it just looks like a PS2 game without the composite bleeding I grew up with.

Anonymous Sat Dec 18 16:11:13 2021 No.8433242

>>8433139
gamecube has a much simpler hardware design and is capable of much less. PS2 hardware can do certain things that even modern hardware really can't. the benefits of having a 2560-bit bus. That's not a typo by the way. For reference the RTX 3080Ti has a 384-bit bus. Worse yet the high end PS2 games utilize all 16 of those 2560-bit pixel pipelines firing for 60 frames a second. Many games on PS2 run at 60.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 18 16:12:52 2021 No.8433246 File: 789 KB, 1200x675, 02a.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >PCSX2 gets ported to RetroArch >finally, we can play with decent frame pacing, lower input lag, use some neat shade- >it doesn't support software mode

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 18 16:14:26 2021 No.8433249 >>8433182 All right, but to me it's really just a matter of what screen i'm playing on. But obviously, I would prefer using something that's closest to what it was intended to be played on. the best I have at the moment is a compact 4:3 CRT monitor.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 18 16:15:24 2021 No.8433251 >>8433249 Shit mane, use that. Output at 480p and go to town.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 18 16:34:42 2021 No.8433298 File: 207 KB, 460x460, 56ek6867.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8433139 How the piss did you get Growlanser 6 with the englishes?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 18 16:37:05 2021 No.8433310 >>8433298 there's an english patch available now. https://cdromance.com/ps2-iso/growlanser-vi-precarious-world-japan/

Anonymous Sat Dec 18 16:38:47 2021 No.8433315

>playing super monkey ball on dolphin
>notice lots of broken/artifacted sprites on 3D hud elements
>autism kicks in, can't ignore it
>decide to just play the game on my gamecube
>The HUD elements are fucking broken on original hardware

what the fuck, how did I never notice this? what the hell sega

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 18 17:14:48 2021 No.8433409 >>8433139 Your phone is too slow

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 18 17:27:30 2021 No.8433435 >>8433310 >everyone dropping cdromance left and right >oy vey da normies know Welp guess that's going down some time next year.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 18 17:29:24 2021 No.8433447 >>8433246 It really is suffering.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 18 17:30:25 2021 No.8433448 >>8433246 It's also jank as shit and doesn't like flipping between APIs and changing games but when it runs it runs reallll good.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 18 17:35:26 2021 No.8433469 >>8433139 Use software rendering mode. Fixes 99% of issues.

Anonymous Sat Dec 18 17:55:11 2021 No.8433530
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>>8433310
>https://cdromance.com/ps2-iso/growlanser-vi-precarious-world-japan/
Well I guess I'll get this, it's the only Growlanser/Langrisser game I haven't gotten on release since 1991.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 18 17:57:08 2021 No.8433538 >>8433435 those damned 4chan normies, ruining everything

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 18 18:05:34 2021 No.8433554 >>8433194 That’s literally the opposite of the truth. Emu-allergic faggots always reveal themselves to be brainlets.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 18 18:12:11 2021 No.8433572 >>8433139 PCSX2’s hardware rendering comes with compromises, simple as. That said, you can look at the commit logs and watch it improve every day.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 18 18:19:41 2021 No.8433586 >>8433139 Misaligned textures is pure sovl and actually heightens the games, you just wouldn't get it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 18 19:37:53 2021 No.8433765 >>8433538 4chan is hardly as secret club as you think.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 18 19:44:05 2021 No.8433784 >>8433765 I don't think it is one, just always found the normies thing funny

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 18 19:46:11 2021 No.8433789 If PS2 emu is still lackluster after 20 years, imagine the PS3's with Cell

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 18 19:47:19 2021 No.8433793 >>8433789 ps2 is unironically more of a headache for emudevs than ps3

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 18 19:51:09 2021 No.8433798 >>8433793 dass crazy man

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 18 19:57:42 2021 No.8433817 >>8433793 Yeah I'm really shocked that when I emued PS2 this year how much is looked like ass and it's been 10 years.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 18 20:59:40 2021 No.8433958 >>8433789 Insanely enough, some PS2 games that were ported to PS3 actually emulate better on RPCS3 than on PCSX2.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 18 21:03:43 2021 No.8433965 >>8433958 dass so crazy

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 18 21:20:25 2021 No.8433998 >>8433965 >>8433798 Would you fucking stop?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 18 21:21:56 2021 No.8434002 >>8433998 fuck you bitch

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 19 00:49:19 2021 No.8434383 >>8434002 Fuck off, you annoying cunt.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 19 08:13:32 2021 No.8435112 >>8433958 Yeah, because they have downgraded effects or other graphical bugs in the "HD" version.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 19 08:24:37 2021 No.8435123 >>8434383 Get triggered autismo

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