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Anonymous Wed Dec 15 14:12:42 2021 No.8424046 [Reply] [Original]

Would a Gamecube clone console ever be possible?

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 15 14:14:01 2021 No.8424051 File: 476 KB, 2500x2500, 1639595641532.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] > Fpbp.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 15 14:14:39 2021 No.8424054 >>8424046 y u no use Wii

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 15 14:19:05 2021 No.8424064 >>8424051 >>8424054 and a wii clone? :^)

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 15 14:24:52 2021 No.8424087 >>8424064 Not retro so can't post.

Anonymous Wed Dec 15 14:31:04 2021 No.8424105

Like an actual clone console?
It's possible. Pretty sure the gigaleaks included enough information about the GameCube that you could probably get a chink clone made with just a couple of engineers.
Is it likely to happen?
Absolutely not. It's way too complex to be worth manufacturing these days. Once you get enough units made and have a neat enough profit margin to make it all worth it you're guaranteed to get sued to oblivion by Nintendo.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 15 14:37:07 2021 No.8424116 >>8424046 If it didn't happen for PS2 and PSOne it will not happen ever again. Last one was that Dreamcast clone with an LCD display.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 15 14:38:36 2021 No.8424120 >>8424046 Why? GameCube sucks. Just make something in Unity or some shit

Anonymous Wed Dec 15 14:41:51 2021 No.8424125

>>8424105
This. The furthest a clone could realistically go is an inexpensive (entirely solid state) SoC powerful enough to do cycle accurate emulation.
Doing anything more - namely, fabricating new CPUs, GPUs, and irregular optical drives long out of production - would be prohibitively expensive.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 15 14:44:04 2021 No.8424129 wasn't there a Panasonic dvd player that played gc games

Anonymous Wed Dec 15 14:47:45 2021 No.8424145

>>8424129
>The Panasonic Q[d] is a hybrid version of the GameCube with a commercial DVD player, developed by Panasonic as part of the deal with Nintendo to develop the optical drive for the original GameCube hardware.[71] It features a stainless steel case that is completely revised to accommodate the DVD capabilities, with Panasonic including a DVD-sized front-loading tray and a backlit LCD screen with playback controls among other hardware revisions; a carrying handle was also included as a nod to the one on the GameCube.[72] Announced by Panasonic on October 19, 2001, it was released exclusively in Japan on December 14 at a suggested retail price of ¥39,800; however, low sales resulted in Panasonic announcing the discontinuation of the Q on December 18, 2003.[71][73][74]

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 15 14:51:08 2021 No.8424151 >>8424129 the other way around.

Anonymous Wed Dec 15 14:51:23 2021 No.8424152

>>8424046
No. Consoles that "clone" a disc drive that has some type of copy protection will always be in violation of too many laws to be worth it.

A cart based system doesn't have any code or "rights" inside of it like a disc based system can have. It is why bios are so taboo even on sites that were letting you download full games.

Anonymous Wed Dec 15 18:06:38 2021 No.8424770

>>8424105
>>8424125
This, but also the reason why stuff like the NES, SNES, and Mega drive got cloned is because they use pretty common and well understood processors (6502 /Motorola 68000), and the component fabrication is justified even today because cheap 8 and 16 bit systems are still made and used today in some applications. Around the 5th+ generation consoles started to trend more to more custom hardware, especially for graphics processing, which makes it much harder to clone. Also, something along the power of 5th+ gen has very little application, and are easily outclassed by ARM chips in terms of power and efficiently, so there's no point.

Anonymous Wed Dec 15 18:30:07 2021 No.8424838 [DELETED]

>>8424105
>with just a couple of engineers.

I'm not so sure. Reverse engineer a PowerPC CPU and ATi graphics chip? I think the PowerPC CISC architecture has been made open source? The cheapest option for a GameCube alternative is a Wii, which there are a lot of in the wild.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 15 18:32:01 2021 No.8424843 File: 1.31 MB, 3213x2142, WiiU.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8424064

Anonymous Wed Dec 15 18:32:39 2021 No.8424845

>>8424105
>with just a couple of engineers.

I'm not so sure. Reverse engineer a PowerPC CPU and ATi graphics chip? I think the PowerPC RISC architecture has been made open source (RISC V?) ? The cheapest option for a GameCube alternative is a Wii, which there are a lot of in the wild.

Anonymous Wed Dec 15 18:37:02 2021 No.8424857

>>8424845
>I think the PowerPC RISC architecture has been made open source (RISC V?)

oh wait, RISC-V is a different thing. But in 2019 IBM did make PowerPC architecture open source called OpenPOWER:

https://www.eejournal.com/article/ibm-gives-away-powerpc-goes-open-source/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenPOWER_Foundation

Maybe it would be possible to produce a GameCube clone CPU. But the ATi GPU is another thing.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 15 18:40:19 2021 No.8424860 >>8424046 yeah it's called a wii

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 15 18:55:08 2021 No.8424906 >>8424860 Did you seriously think that nobody would notice that you made the same joke as the first 2 replies?

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 15 19:36:29 2021 No.8425004 >>8424860 haha woah I never thought of that!

Anonymous Wed Dec 15 21:49:35 2021 No.8425258

>>8424046
Not anytime soon that’s for sure

Could a GameCube be replicated by a third party? Yeah by this point that shouldn’t even be that hard.

Would any company be allowed to sell it without getting sued to shit? No

Nintendo themselves could make it.
The GameCube/Wii sit in a nice place where manufacturing them again would be super cheap. It’s not like they’re spinning up lines for chips of architecture that just isn’t used anymore. The Wii U had a variant of the GameCube’s CPU and GPU built into it, so that’s not even that long ago.

I wonder if some day they’ll be so out of ideas they fall back on rereleasing stuff like that. In the vein of the mini classic consoles but with software sold alongside.

They already produce the controller, the disc drive would be dirt cheap to produce nowadays- the work to cheapen and streamline the CPU and GPU was already done for the Wii years ago- and power PC hardware is currently cheap to produce.
I can’t think of a single component in the GameCube that would be costly to reproduce nowadays. Compared to something like the ps2- it would be a cakewalk for Nintendo.

It’d be cool I think, but then again- the Wii is already a pretty damn good gamecube clone. It would have to do a lot extra to make me really care that much. Gamecubes are effectively just gameboy player machines to me- and they already do a pretty damn good job at it

I think they’d still sell out the ass regardless though. Especially if they slapped an hdmi port on the back or something.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 15 21:57:18 2021 No.8425271 >>8424906 I don't read threads I just post

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 15 22:00:20 2021 No.8425274 >>8424843 kek

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 15 22:01:37 2021 No.8425276 >>8424843 underrated

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 15 22:18:17 2021 No.8425307 File: 334 KB, 1503x1080, Pathetic K. Rool.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8425271

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 15 22:44:23 2021 No.8425361 >>8424046 There's like 300 million GCs Wiis, and Wii (You)s out there. Why the fuck would you want a clone

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 15 22:52:48 2021 No.8425374 >>8425361 Same reason why people wanted NES and SNES clones when there were also millions of them.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 15 23:07:32 2021 No.8425418 >>8425374 Because they are retarded?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 16 07:59:16 2021 No.8426186 >>8424046 Of course, silly child.

Anonymous Thu Dec 16 08:01:44 2021 No.8426194

>>8424046
It's possible. I just don't think any company is willing to do it more than they're willing to sell their retarded expensive HDMI converters. Plus I 100% believe Nintendo would sue them out the ass for that even if they don't sell Gamecubes anymore.

Anonymous Thu Dec 16 10:33:19 2021 No.8426437

>>8424105
> the gigaleaks included enough information about the GameCube that you could probably get a chink clone made with just a couple of engineers.
God, you're a fucking moron. They don't make powerPC processors anymore, shut the fuck up. And no, POWER doesn't count.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 16 11:08:09 2021 No.8426492 >>8426437 Plenty of PowerPC still around in embedded and industrial applications

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 16 16:29:08 2021 No.8427187 >>8424105 The GC/Wii CPU was eventually released as a generic part by IBM So the main part would be the weird ArtX/GX GPU

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 16 16:34:51 2021 No.8427195 Make the Gamesphere a reality.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 16 20:10:00 2021 No.8427740 >>8426492 They're not produced anymore, so no. Plenty of POWER processors, though, which are irrelevant to your case. Best they could do is gut old gamecubes to make clones, like analog did with their NES clone at first.

Anonymous Thu Dec 16 20:17:25 2021 No.8427760

Speaking of clone hardware, is there any fundamental reason why PS4/Xbone games can't be run on PC hardware? I mean, they're just x86 machines using off the shelf parts, so shouldn't that be a possibility? Just needs the right OS?
Probably a retarded question, I have zero knowledge on shit like this.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 16 21:18:07 2021 No.8427942 >>8427740 I think powerpc is still made in chinkland ts just called something else it the hardware is open now anyone can make it if I remember correctly

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