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8422839 No.8422839 [Reply] [Original]

Is the retrotink 5x worth it? I'm not sure how I feel about the lack of HDMI input.

>> No.8422846

>>8422839
If you are concerned about no HDMI input it is clearly not for you. It does however do an excellent job scaling retro signals and the motion adaptive deinterlacing is great.

>> No.8422847

>>8422839
The RetroTINK is a history, look at the OSSC, Open Source Scan Converter, and yes, worth it.

>> No.8422856

>>8422846
I mainly want it for my ps2. but my monitor only has 2 hdmi slots and I dont want the retrotink to have to share with the ps3 and PC.

>> No.8422880

Anyone have experience using this with gamecube/wii? I'm curious if ti'll look better on my 4k than playing gamecube games through the Wii U at 1080p would (which is awful)

>> No.8422929

>>8422880
I believe you can downscale it with the retrotink. Or you could get something like the mcable that could make the image look better at higher resolutions.

>> No.8422997

>>8422847
The 5X is better than the OSSC

>> No.8423006

>>8422847
The 5x Pro is considerably better at handling interlacing and resolution changes on-the-fly (Chrono Cross/Dino Crisis etc.), is more feature rich and from experience produces a better image. Both out of the box and dialling in setting. If anything I think the OSSC has been superseded by the GBS Control in that price range.
>>8422856
Works great with PS2 and component cables. Even has excellent pre-sets to handle deinterlacing. Get a cheap HDMI switch or AV receiver if you have limited HDMI ports.
>>8422880
Gamecube and Wii via component cables look infinitely better than the scaled output from Wii U's HDMI. Modded Wii + Nintendont + decent component cables (and scaler) is the ideal way to play the whole library imho.

>> No.8423251

>>8422839
How is this thing compared to the Framemeister?

>> No.8423298

>>8423251
Better in every way

>> No.8423407

>>8423251
no configuration needed and minimal lag (0.25 to 1.25 frames according the documentation).
for the lag alone the old 2x is still better, but compared to the framemeister it's better.

>> No.8423539

>>8422839
If you want HDMi input wait for the OSSC Pro or PixelFX Morph. Both are gonna be feature equivalent to the Retrotink (1440p, Motion Adaptive Deinterlacing, fast resolution change handling, etc) + more. Both of them will have HDMi input.

>> No.8423705

Do any of these things downscale interlaced signals to 240p?

>> No.8423706

>>8423539
Yeah, just do this OP. We're basically reaching a point anyways to where upscalers are basically producing the same quality results anyways. Love my 5x, but if its HDMI input you want you're better off waiting.

>> No.8423749

It's not worth it. Best option if you're willing to dirty your hands is the gbs-c. Otherwise I'd consider the ossc if you can handle the hard resolution changes.

>> No.8423775

>>8422839
I just record my screen. No one cares.

>> No.8423925
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8423925

>>8422839
Get a cheap portta hdmi to component adapter from Amazon. They’re like $20 and add no lag.

>> No.8423928

>>8423705
The 5X does

>> No.8424038
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8424038

can this shits do 240p?
i want to connect my laptop or raspi4 to my crt.
yes, i know the raspi4 can do composite with a cable and i have it, but it's a step down from the raspi3.

>> No.8424063

>>8422839
Why would you need HDMI input? Any console that uses HDMI doesn't need the retrotink 5x

>> No.8424084

>>8422856
Get a fucking switch box Then you fucking idiot

>> No.8424279

>>8424063
Because I wanna plug in my pc and put on a scanline filter :)

>> No.8424319

I vouch for the framemeister.

>> No.8424772

>>8424063
>doesn't want to downscale radiant silvergun x360-version to 240p
do you even shmup?

>> No.8425217

I bought one for my PS2 and it works great.

>> No.8425231

I kind of want to replace my OSSC with it but it doesn't have any VGA option for the Dreamcast.

>> No.8425240

>>8422839
Hard to say, I'm still waiting on the OSSC Pro. I'll be pissed if the OSSC Pro is just the same thing with 120hz support.

>> No.8425259

>>8424038
i cant say for certain, but probably not
generally for PC to 15 KHz CRT output, you need VGA and either custom drivers for Windows like CRT_emudriver for AMD cards or Soft15kHz for nvidia cards, or custom modelines for linux
AND you'd need a VGA to component/composite/svideo converter, the best/cheapest of which i know of here:
component: https://www.ebay.com/itm/174166352619
composite/s-video: https://www.ebay.com/itm/174151197805
i dont think the laptop would work unless it has VGA output, but i think you can add a VGA port to the raspberry pis. they use linux so you could set custom modelines

>> No.8425353

>>8423925
Bought 2 one of these things and both times they arrived busted. Now I'm just playing straight AV into my flat screen like a madman.

>> No.8425356

>>8424038
The lowest they do is 720p

>> No.8425650

>>8423705
the gbs-control does

>> No.8425697

>>8425240
Stop playing the waiting game for shit.

>> No.8425703

>>8425231
You can get a VGA scart cable from retroaccess

>> No.8425704

Seems worth it if you don't have a Framemeister. And if you do, it might be worth the upgrade, too.

>> No.8426102

>>8422839
I have the 5x and yes.

>> No.8426220

>>8422839
No hipster scaler cringe is """worth it"""

>> No.8426696

>>8426220
explain

>> No.8426760

>>8426220
No, they can also downscale to 240p. So in some cases it is worth it.

>> No.8427098

>>8425240
Why would 120hz support matter? Nothing supports it.

>> No.8427125

>>8426760
>making the image quality worse is good

>> No.8427136

>>8427125
Ok you are just a retard. Thanks for replying

>> No.8427146
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8427146

>>8422839
Retrotinkle

>> No.8427167

>>8427146
(latest fad)

>> No.8427210

>>8426696
>explain
They are not worth it

>>8426760
What cases?

>> No.8427218

>>8427210
Forcing retro consoles to display at 240p on a CRT vs 480

>> No.8427229

>>8427218
Doesn't that fuck up games that have resolution switching like Silent Hill, DOA and Panzer Zwei? Did they solve that yet?

>> No.8427252

>>8427229
Idk why you'd use it with those games. Ideal game for that is MVC2 or one of those retro collection games that decided to run all 480i like Sonic Mega Collection

>> No.8427393

I'm a little retarded with this stuff, if i have the 5x set to 1080p and then put on scanlines is it still 1080p?

>> No.8428042

>>8427218
How do you imagine it forces retro consoles to do that? It rewrites the code in ROM over the video cable?

>> No.8428054

>>8428042
How about you rewrite your mouth onto my dick

>> No.8428478
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8428478

>>8422839
The reason is its built for converting/scaling analog signals to HDMI.

HDMI is not an analog signal.

>> No.8428597

>>8423925
>analog-to-digital
>no lag
please god let it be true

>> No.8429156

>>8422839
>Is the retrotink 5x worth it?
Do you like VARIABLE AND UNPREDCITABLE lag? If yes, go 5x. If no OSSC.
>inb4 'lol randomly oscillating 0.25-1.25 frames of lag doesn't matter"

>> No.8429252

>>8428054
I accept your concession

>> No.8429486

>>8423407
>>8423298

but is it worth switching when I already have a Framemeister? Is the difference worth shilling out another couple hundred?

>> No.8430359

>>8429486
I love the 5x, but if you're happy enough with a Framemeister, you probably won't have to shell out another few hundred when it can still upscale composite/S-video content just fine I think. It's just another good all-in-one solution for those that missed the boat on the Framemeister originally.
The fast resolution switching isn't just exclusive to the 5X either, it's common in other Retrotink products, and even the GBS-Control, too.

>> No.8430532

>>8423925
How do I plug this into the retrotink when it has component sockets and not the plugs

>> No.8430617
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8430617

>>8423925
Would that be better than one of these?

>> No.8430798

>>8427393
Yes

>> No.8430932

>>8425697
I don't your casual, Fisher-Price junk, Mike.

>> No.8431618

>>8428597
When it comes to ADC converters, the thing that causes lag is if they upscale the output. If that thing doesn't do any upscaling, it probably would be lag-free.

>> No.8431626

>>8422839
Can I get a QRD on the 2x? I'm just trying to play some NES games. Any other alternatives?

>> No.8431907

Original Drawing Video
RetroScaler

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8432046

>>8422839
It was instrumental in streaming Silent Hill off real hardware this past October. You might lose signal quality converting HDMI into the device. Checking Amazon, there does seem to be a lot of HDMI to component adapters for cheap, but I have not tried those.

>> No.8432228

>>8422839
No, it's not worth it. I'll be worth it once it is able to downscale 1080p/720p/480p to 480i.

>> No.8432504

>>8431626
The 2X Pro offers support for component, composite, and S-video. It line doubles resolutions like 240p/480i to 480p, has low if any lag, and it has support for a smoothing filter and fake scanlines. That said, the scanlines are kind of terrible and darken the image.
There's a cheaper model though called the Mini. It doesn't have component inputs or artificial scanlines, but it basically does everything the other models do.

>> No.8432963

>>8432504
Thanks man. I see the mini is sold out unfortunately

>> No.8434136

>>8432228
There are cheap adapters on Amazon that can do that already. I use one with a firestick running at 1080p and use Kodi to correct the aspect ratio and it looks good