/vroom/ - ЯR: Retro Racing General - Red Bull edition

[Anonymous No.8406501]

Welcome to The Garage, a thread where fans of racing vidya can discuss their favourite arcade, sim, kart, and any other kinds of racing games (this is /vr/, so any PC/6th gen game up to 2007 goes!). If you’re looking for something new to play or are new to the genre ask other Anons for recommendations and remember to gear up and have fun.

The previous thread reached its last bus stop: >8361278

>Interested in a series to get started with?
https://pastebin.com/Vke5tf9e

Remember to bump, /vr/ has been faster as of late and threads get archived much quicker now. Don't be shy: ask questions, share experiences! If anyone has ideas for community events, speak up!

This thread we're introducing thread challenges. A track and game is chosen and people can challenge for times on it.
To keep with the winter theme with the coming Christmas season, We're racing on:
The Summit, on NFS3 (NTSC) for PSX.

[Anonymous No.8406587]

Learn to backlink, OP - that's twice you've done it now.

>>8361278

[Anonymous No.8406625]

>>8406587
Yeah, sorry. These generals are the only threads I ever start.

[Anonymous No.8407059]

Why don't you just list the games in the pastebin on the OP itself? Makes it easier to find the thread on the catalog too.
In fact, why not list every /vr/ racing game we've been playing in the OP in a single paragraph anyway?

[Anonymous No.8407060]

>>8407059
At this point, yeah, adding a short paragraph that summarizes the main series we talk about here would be a bit nicer. Doubt we need a whole ass pastebin. If I bake next thread I'm going to.

[Anonymous No.8407245]

>>8406587
He didn't do it twice. I was the last thread OP.

[Anonymous No.8407265]

>>8407245
So there are two Anons who don't know what they're doing then.

[Anonymous No.8407436]

>>8406501
>The Summit, on NFS3 (NTSC) for PSX.
On the first day of /vroom/ness my true love gave to me, a burning lap in need for speed threeeee.

[Anonymous No.8407571]

>>8407436
>Diablo SV
Based car choice, hopefully this picks up steam.

[Anonymous No.8407715]

>>8407571
I decided picking el nino would be bullshit and the diablo is the coolest car in the game.

[Anonymous No.8407792]

Just for laughs here is the PC version without any of the assists on - as we can the more arcade nature of the PS1 version (at least in its default arcade setting, rather than simulation) has a significant impact on time. Hmm, I wonder how much of a difference turning traction control on has.

[Anonymous No.8407843]

Since I just had to know here with have a PC run with traction control on. Give or take the differences in runs I would take TC on roughly makes the PC version on par with the PS1 version at default settings for lap times. The next test will be PS1 set to simulation which I will do next to complete this experiment.

[Anonymous No.8407913]

As we can see sim mode in the playstation version is significantly slower. It is basically just an understeer mode anyway and never actually worth using. So i'm going to call this comparison done for now as getting into tuning autism is asking for trouble.

[Anonymous No.8408008]

Name some kino scenery/track elements in racing games.
I'll start: low flying airplanes

[Anonymous No.8408063]

>>8408008
Just about anything going on overhead is good for atmosphere and immersion in vidya games but is rarely actually utilised like it could be.

[Anonymous No.8408082]

>>8408008
Ridge Racer has planes for days. It's great.
Other good stuff includes fireworks, hot air baloons, local fauna joining in (eg. birds, dolphins, etc.), tunnel sections and everything WRC Rally Evolved has done for rally games (people in the middle of the track, unpredictable nature/crashes blocking part of the track, your co-driver actually talking like he's a real person rather than a glorified GPS, etc.).

[Anonymous No.8408165]

>>8408008
Low flying helicopters swooping in, fighter jets going the same direction as you and I especially love the fireworks at the end of RR4.

[Anonymous No.8409432]

>>8408165
>Low flying helicopters swooping in,
I think the first stage of Sega Rally had that, it was K I N O

[Anonymous No.8409583]

[Anonymous No.8410405]

>>8409583
H-HE'S FAST!!!

[Anonymous No.8411091]

On the second day of /vroom/ness my true love games to me, midnight club II on pee cee and a burning lap in need for speed threeeee.

[Anonymous No.8411321]

[Anonymous No.8411891]

Anyone here play RBR? Came out on the PS2 but for PAL, so I ended up having to grab the PC version from a Steam group, and I'm curious if anyone here has had experiences with it. I fucked the car up in driving school because driving is hard.

[Anonymous No.8412586]

>>8406501
2097>Fusion>Pure>3>HD>Pulse>1>2048

[Anonymous No.8412609]

>>8411891
I don't like it. Many people say it's realistic but it's really not. There is zero grip in that game (no aerodynamics as well) which makes cars handle like the Asteroids space ship. IIRC even real rally drivers said somewhere the game is harder than actual rally driving.

[Anonymous No.8412831]

>>8411891
I enjoy it but the mod quality is not really consistent, especially with RWD cars which is a shame. Stuff feels a bit too slippery sometimes.

[Anonymous No.8413145]

>>8412586
You did this on purpose, didn't you?

[Anonymous No.8413887]

Rawr :3

[Anonymous No.8414249]

>playing inferior version of HP2 on PC
>using a controller
>can't get a gold medal on time trial
>decide to try a keyboard
>I get gold after first attempt
What the hell

[Anonymous No.8414376]

>>8413145
Do what? It's what I think of the series.

[Anonymous No.8414381]

>>8414249
man these graphics looks sad, i'd probably be questioning myself how much of my life i've wasted on videogames

[Anonymous No.8414583]

>>8414381
the difference between PC and PS2 is truly night and day

[Anonymous No.8414792]

You know Seattle release of HP2 is lazy when some tracks look so different from PS2 version they don't match the map showcase at all
https://nfs.fandom.com/wiki/Fall_Winds_(Circuit)

[Anonymous No.8415275]

On the thirs day of /vroom/ness my true love gave to me: 3 smuggler's run games, midnight club II on pc and a burning lap in need for speed threeeee.

[Anonymous No.8416819]

>>8415275
There are only 2 Smuggler's Run games unless you count the shitty GBA port

[Anonymous No.8416832]

>>8416819
I was being picky but 2 had a re-release on the gamecube (warzones) so I counted that.

[Anonymous No.8416845]

>>8411891
I find it interesting how active the community still is even if the game is a bit old and obscure.

[Anonymous No.8417053]

>>8412609
Jackie stewart said the same thing about GP legends. cars were way harder to drive then they actually were.

[Anonymous No.8417280]

gotta go fast

[Anonymous No.8419076]

>>8417280
Nice

[Anonymous No.8419087]

>>8417280
Need to play nfs3 with a proper wheel, it looks extremely fun.

[Anonymous No.8419102]

I've been enjoying Wipeout a lot lately. Always come back to it every few years, but I'm really on a mission to 100% gold every track/class this time. Just finished all the classes/teams on Wipeout 3, gonna do the Classic League on SE next.

I like Wipeout 3 the best, but I hear a lot of people say 2097 is their favourite. What's the reason, is it just liking the tracks better? Preferring the handling? The aesthetics?

For me, I thought 2097 was kinda light on content. Only has like 5 ships and it only took me maybe half an hour to unlock and complete the Phantom challenge, and I'm not sure what I was supposed to do after that other than just time trial I guess.

It has some really great tracks, Valpariso, Gar D'Europa and Penitia Park are easily my favourites. But on the other hand FUCK Odessa Keys and FUCK Spiskinane or whatever it is, and FUCK that other Phantom one. Those tracks are just a pain in the ass for the sake of being a pain in the ass, it ruins the feeling of speed and flow.

Wipeout 1 is a little primitive and I can't get into it properly. Is there any particular reason I should try to enjoy it compared to 2097 and 3/SE?

[Anonymous No.8419164]

>>8419102
I don't know why but I've always found that 1 has a particularly different charm the other 2 don't have. Maybe it's the rougher feeling, or the more racing team looking ships.
2097 Feels like more refined 1, and 3 feels like the first modern wipeout.

[Anonymous No.8419362]

On the fourth day of /vroom/ness my true love gave to me: 4 destruction derby games, 3 smuggler's run games, midnight club II on pc and a burning lap in need for speed threeeee

[Anonymous No.8419761]

I fear that I've gone down a rabbit hole looking for the ideal. I don't think the perfect racing game exists.

[Anonymous No.8419791]

360's Xbox emulator is very impressive. Doesn't support all games (Maximum Chase is unplayable slow) but it supports a lot and the improvements that come with 4xMSAA and 360's hardware upscaler are really nice.

You can do screenshots too on a freebooted console, although I have to stretch them again to post because Xbox games mostly run in anamorphic widescreen.

[Anonymous No.8419813]

>>8419791
Forza looks really pretty, especially on the Pacific Shipyards track, which is exclusive to Forza 1. The game feels a bit different even to Forza 2, let alone 3 and later titles. I guess it has a bit of roughness and attitude that was still there in 2004-2005?

[Anonymous No.8419817]

[Anonymous No.8419840]

>>8419791
Upscaled the original 640x480 image through Waifu2x as an experiment.

[Anonymous No.8419851]

>>8406501
Based Qirex chad

[Anonymous No.8420620]

>sunset cruise along the coast
Truly too comfy.

[Anonymous No.8420650]

Also this happened which seemed worthy of a webm.

[Anonymous No.8420662]

>>8420650
Cruis'n moment.

[Anonymous No.8420697]

>>8420662
Quickly which is best, USA, world or exotica?

[Anonymous No.8420706]

What arcade racers should I play after I'm done with Ridge Racer 4? In the past I liked Midnight Club 3 a lot, and some NFS games that I don't care to revisit (though I only played the PC version of Hot Pursuit 2 and if the console version is much better I'll try that).

[Anonymous No.8420709]

>>8420697
WORLD

[Anonymous No.8420725]

>>8420706
Burning road.

[Anonymous No.8420832]

>>8420725
This looks fun.

[Anonymous No.8422197]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=peb1ZxoCtGI
ʳᵃˡˡʸ

[Anonymous No.8422214]

>>8420706
Rage Racer
Ridge Racer V

[Anonymous No.8422516]

>>8419840
topaz should do better

[Anonymous No.8422571]

>>8414249
>>8414583
lmao PC

[Anonymous No.8422584]

>>8419102
WO3 or any incarnation of that game feel like boats struggling and bouncing around left and right. Like trying to push a around magnet with another magnet.
WOXL feels like the ships properly slice through air meaning the aerodynamics aren't fucked up. Turning left and right never feel excessively bouncy, only vertically (like Gare D'europa).

[Anonymous No.8422593]

>>8419791
>>8419813
>>8419817
>>8419840
>that filename
bros...

[Anonymous No.8422735]

>>8408082
This. Ridge Racer is one of my all time favorite racing games ever.

Cruis'n World is great too.

[Anonymous No.8423237]

[Anonymous No.8423340]

>>8423237
That guy's still around?

[Anonymous No.8423353]

>>8423340
yep
ruined two burnout threads with his shit recently
he's 36

[Anonymous No.8423418]

>>8423353
Looks like we've got our very own thread schizo now.

[Anonymous No.8423492]

>>8423340
I haven’t seen him post in a while, but he haunts these threads like a ghost.

[Anonymous No.8423642]

>>8423418
We finally made it big.

[Anonymous No.8424317]

I can never decide if I like the enhanced contrast option or not.

[Anonymous No.8424323]

Off for comparison.

[Anonymous No.8424337]

>>8424317
>>8424323
Off looks a lot better IMO

[Anonymous No.8424370]

>>8424337
Hmm I think I agree - off stops the dark parts of the scene crushing the other parts.

[Anonymous No.8425438]

>>8424370
>N20 on AE86
Fucking fast and furious niggers and their need for speed games were the disgrace of JDM scene.

[Anonymous No.8425673]

>>8425438
>JDM scene
Nobody in the scene has ever heard of NFSU2 so the only one triggered by it are those that pretend to be part of the scene just to score internet points on /o/.

[Anonymous No.8425682]

>>8425438
BE AN ENGINE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FX5LAGV110I

[Anonymous No.8425851]

>>8425673
You prolly weren't around in 2004. F&F and NFS brought in many idiots with "tuning" limited to cheap pu bodykits, stickers and neon.
None of the shops in my area provided nitrous kits though so I don't know if they were any common.

[Anonymous No.8425953]

>>8425851
Those idiots couldn't afford the actual JDM machines and just bought the model these companies exported. All NFS and fast and furious did was drive the price of the actual JDM machines through the roof.

[Anonymous No.8426173]

>>8423237
this image is nonsense, you can't get a tan in the uk.

[Anonymous No.8426269]

Can anons help? I've got it in my head someone finished the unfinished TR02B track from NFSIII on PS1 and made it a mod for the PC version of high stakes but for the live of me can I find it - does anyone else know if this or am I going insane?

[Anonymous No.8426705]

Love this aesthetic

[Anonymous No.8426919]

>>8419102
>But on the other hand FUCK Odessa Keys and FUCK Spiskinane or whatever it is, and FUCK that other Phantom one.
I finished the Pirahna Challenge for the first time a couple of weeks ago and I used to hate Odessa Keys but after practicing it to death I now think it's pretty good aside from the final corner. I just brute forced Vostok Island with the Qirex but I can see how with practice it would become smooth, but Spilskinanke, that track is just pure ass; the first blind tunnel is one thing, it has a relatively consistent approach at least, but the descending, pitch-black tunnel chicane that shoots you out perpendicular to the track is a nightmare.

>Wipeout 1 is a little primitive and I can't get into it properly. Is there any particular reason I should try to enjoy it compared to 2097 and 3/SE?
I find it far more satisfying to win 1 than in 2097/3; the walls are more punishing, there's much less of a weapon focus that 2097 and it's far more aerodynamic than 3. The sound effects help a lot; the engine sound isn't very loud and you can hear the wind rushing past you at high speeds, getting those perfect laps gliding through the tight tunnel sections and so on feels 'chef's kiss' as it were. Try the AG-SYS, it's by far the easiest to win with; the Auricom and Qirex airbrakes are so powerful that they require practicing every track excessively and the Feisar is so slow that you'll struggle to place on Arridos and Silverstream.

[Anonymous No.8427320]

>>8426173
I’m pretty sure it’s supposed to be a sunburn.

[Anonymous No.8427409]

>>8422593
Haven't tried outrun 2 on the 360. Are you using Aurora's screenshot program too?
I have Burnout 2 and Midnight Club 3 screenshots if you'd like some.

[Anonymous No.8427623]

>>8427409
Yes, using web UI to launch games and dump raw screen captures is amazing, but the UI itself is ugly as shit. But my autism says the screenshot dumps have a different color space than me playing with Forza Horizon's photo mode, so I don't know which one is wrong.

[Anonymous No.8428945]

I forgot how thumping a lot of old racing game OSTs were. I'm currently listening to the re-volt ost and while a tad generic it really is some nice high energy techno.

[Anonymous No.8429042]

>>8419791
maximum chase is one of the few games that works just fine in cxbx, kinda funny it doesn't work properly on the official microsoft emu

[Anonymous No.8429305]

>>8426705
holy shit reiko's sprite looks amazing
>>8427623
Maybe you're using a different monitor and colors are a bit incorrect there?

[Anonymous No.8429307]

>>8429042
It does "work", but the shooting sections are unplayably slow.