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8405017 No.8405017 [Reply] [Original]

>create a game and character whose whole raison d'etre is being fast
>billed as the Mario killer
>fast forward 30 years
>no one speedruns your games
>they all speedrun bing bing wahoo instead

What the FUCK happened

>> No.8405024

>>8405017
>no one speedruns sonic
are you fucking retarded

>> No.8405025

They put Sonic in the middle of the screen instead of the left side so you don't have enough time to actually react to the obstacles when you're going fast, unless you memorize the whole stage. That's dumb game design.

>> No.8405030

>>>/v/

>>8405024
He is.

>>8405025
What games are you talking about?

>> No.8405039
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8405039

>>8405030
First one, I think.

>> No.8405041

>>8405024
Go to speedrun . com and see for youself:

Sorted by most active:
Mario - 1300 players
Sonic - 160 players

Sorted by most players:
Mario - 19974 players
Sonic - 2574 players

Sorted by most runs:
Mario - 127685
Sonic - 17396

It's not even close.

>> No.8405049

>>8405017
It's no fun if the game is already made for speedruns.

>> No.8405058

>>8405041
>nobody
ok

>> No.8405061

>>8405039
Sonic 1 absolutely gives you enough time to react to everything. You don't even have spindash kek.
Utilizing quick reflexes is like the entire point of these games and Sonic 1 actually plays the most like a traditional platformer.

>unless you memorize the whole stage
Do you know what speedrunning is

>> No.8405072

>>8405061
>Do you know what speedrunning is
The most degenerate ACT
man has ever come up with

>> No.8405175

>>8405072
So kissing boys is okay? Asking for a friend ...

>> No.8405479

>>8405017
>>create a game and character whose whole raison d'etre is killing the Mario
*fixed

>> No.8406180

>>8405025
What if the camera zoomed out when you picked up speed?

>> No.8406184

>>8405175
Tomboys yes.
Catbois, no.

>> No.8406185

>>8405041
>giving a fuck about speed running

>> No.8406187

>>8405025
>>8406180
I thought
>someone must have created a hack that renders the entire stage right?
And they did.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJITjKpcPHk

>> No.8406189

>>8405017
mario has better glitches

>> No.8406569

>>8405017
He's so fast that he just becomes slow in practice. At some point, probably sooner rather than later, you're going to miss that jump, hit a wall or robot and lose your speed because you're not a super-sonic speed hedgehog, you're a fallible human being, and you'll do it again and again. There's less stopping in Mario so you get to feel fast more often despite having a lower top speed than with Sonic.

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8406572

>>8405017
because we just play the games nigga

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8406574

>>8406572
>>8405017
sonic isn't about going fast but geometry + basic physics

>> No.8406614

>>8405175
Only if you don't fall in love.

>> No.8406628

Sonic fuckin sucks

>> No.8406686

Sonic is a pleb filter.

>> No.8406876

>>8406187
>And they did.
wow. that's excellent.

>> No.8406881

>>8406189
>mario has better glitches
this is all it comes down to. people can't cheat as hard in sonic and actually have to get good instead of googling bugs to exploit. this why speedrunning is a complete farce.

>> No.8406882

>>8405025
If you hold down whilst running you roll into a ball and destroy all enemies you come in contact with

>> No.8406895

>>8406882
No fucking way. I just tested this and you're right. How the fuck did i not know this?

>> No.8407041

>>8406882
He's obviously talking about the walls and springs, dude.

>> No.8407065

>>8406881
The funny thing is you actually believe this is how speedrunners work.

>> No.8407216

>>8405017
It's because Mario games have a much better sense of flow than Sonic games despite the latter being "faster".

>> No.8407958

>>8405017
And both fanbases have attracted cringe autism over the years and it's all garbage now.

>> No.8408235

>>8406614
I-i'll try not to ...

>> No.8408251

>>8405017
>What the FUCK happened
They got beyond Videogames
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZAyDGWOooas

>> No.8409127

>>8407041
There's literally one spring in the entire classic series that this applies to, and it's the one in Marble Zone. There isn't a single other spring that poses an actual problem, and even with this one it's not likely it'll throw you into any actual danger if you keep holding right.

>> No.8409356

>>8405017
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: the Sonic series has always be stupid. It served one purpose: to show how fast superior Sega consoles could load things. But the core concept of going fast was flawed for fullscreen games. You literally couldnt see far enough for it to matter. You just had to memorize courses, so autists latched onto it. Mario, being slower, let actual normies enjoy it and needed much less memorization. So now Mario is a huge cultural icon and thus the amount of people speed running it is several orders of magnitude higher.