/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.840481]

>Best console in history
>Best Library
>Best Controller
>Best Design

Why can't they make consoles like this anymore? No Bells and whistles, just games.

[Anonymous No.840487]

>>840481

[Anonymous No.840501]

>>Best Controller
Sup mutie. How's Xavier's school treating you?

[Anonymous No.840505]

>>840487
>First 3D mario game ever
>All mario games 3D afterwords

It created a industry standard with one game alone

[Anonymous No.840523]

can't tell if troll or 90's hipster babby

[Anonymous No.840539]

>>840481
Don´t worry OP, I feel the same about the cotroller. Sure it looked awkward but havin it in your hands was a true bliss. Also, this is the closest a keyboard will ever become a controller for FPS action.

[Anonymous No.840574]

Good consoles don't require shit like this.

[Anonymous No.840586]

Awesome console. Needed more games though.

[Anonymous No.840591]

>>840574

It didn't even require it. A few games did however

[Anonymous No.840602]

>>840591

Yeah, and the games that required it were one of the best games in Nintendo history. Ya dum fuk.

[Anonymous No.840610]

>>840602
>Best games in nintendo history

007: The World is Not Enough
All-Star Baseball 2000
Army Men: Sarge's Heroes 2
Castlevania: Legacy of Darkness
Command and Conquer
CyberTiger
Donald Duck: Goin' Quackers
Duke Nukem: Zero Hour
Excitebike 64
F-1 World Grand Prix
Gauntlet Legends
Hybrid Heaven
Hydro Thunder
Indiana Jones and the Infernal Machine
Indy Racing 2000
International Track & Field 2000
Jeremy McGrath Supercross 2000
John Romero's Daikatana
Ken Griffey Jr.'s Slugfest
Madden NFL 2001
Mega Man 64
Namco Museum 64
NFL Quarterback Club '98
NFL Quarterback Club '99
NFL Quarterback Club 2000
NFL Quarterback Club 2001
Nuclear Strike 64
Pokémon Stadium 2
Quake II
Rayman 2: The Great Escape
Re-Volt
Resident Evil 2
Road Rash 64
Roadsters Trophy
San Francisco Rush 2049
Shadow Man
South Park
Star Wars Episode I: Racer
Star Wars Episode I: Battle for Naboo
Star Wars: Rogue Squadron
Stunt Racer 64
Supercross 2000
Tony Hawk's Pro Skater
Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 2
Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 3
Top Gear Hyper-Bike
Top Gear Overdrive
Top Gear Rally 2
Turok 2: Seeds of Evil
Turok 3: Shadow of Oblivion
Turok: Rage Wars
Vigilante 8

Oh yea those are a bunch of Gems.

[Anonymous No.840621]

The N64? Really? There are so many better consoles out there. The library isn't that great, there are like 10 great games that EVERYONE has. It's such a boring console now.

A good retro console is one with games that are still surfacing, like hidden gems. Of course, these games also have to stand the test of time. The N64 only does one of these things, so it's essentially a nostalgia console. No one goes back and plays a new game on an N64. It's always the same fucking games, playing Star Fox 64 or OOT over and over again.

[Anonymous No.840628]

>Worst Framerate

[Anonymous No.840631]

>>840574
Nigger, at least it doesn´t spy on you... and it came free with dk64

[Anonymous No.840636]

>>840602
>Ya dum fuk.

Was that necessary?

The N64 didn't require the Expansion Pak, that's an overstatement.

get your act together or go
>>>/v/

[Anonymous No.840642]

>>840628
>Ps1

[Anonymous No.840645]

>>840642
PS1 had far more games running at 60fps. Most of the 2D games for a start.

[Anonymous No.840646]

>>840621
>Ogre Battle 64
>Harvest Moon
>Star Soldier
>MK trilogy
>Mischief Motherfucking Makers
>Teh TuROKS!!1
>Every game ever by rare
>Quake 2 (because it´s another fucking game)
>DooM 3...64

And I haven´t even touched nintendo games, plus... you are not posting Ristar or Musha there... lousy taste m8

[Anonymous No.840649]

>>840636
It wasn´t mostly necessary, but it did help the machine to get better framerates and cleaner graphics

[Anonymous No.840660]

In my opinion I too believe that the n64 was a great console. A good majority of the games that me and my friends enjoyed playing were on the N64.

[Anonymous No.840667]

>>840574
That's a bad argument. You could say the same about PCs and upgrading hardware. The point is moot in 2013.

[Anonymous No.840668]

The Saturn has aged really well of the 5th gen consoles. However it had no audience in the USA, and all games were in Japan. Sega killed the Saturn themselves. Had Sega taken more care with it, it would've been great.

>but it was hard to program for!

So was the PS2, and that thing had a massive marketshare. Sure that happened later, but ease of programming never made a given console a success. The GameCube and XBox were both easier to program for, but they lagged far behind the PS2.

[Anonymous No.840669]

>>840631
>and it came free with dk64
Came free for $100!

[Anonymous No.840670]

>>840649
Expansion pack mostly harmed framerates by allowing higher resolution.

[Anonymous No.840675]

How's N64 emulation these days? I really want to get back into some premium 64 gayman.

[Anonymous No.840678]

>>840610
Many of them were. Especially...
007: The World is Not Enough
Duke Nukem: Zero Hour
Indiana Jones and the Infernal Machine
Rayman 2: The Great Escape
Resident Evil 2
San Francisco Rush 2049
Shadow Man
Star Wars Episode I: Racer
Star Wars Episode I: Battle for Naboo
Star Wars: Rogue Squadron
Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 3
Turok 3: Shadow of Oblivion

All fucking awesome games.

[Anonymous No.840691]

It was also my favourite console OP, despite the terrible controller (it wouldn't have been so bad if the analog sticks didn't get worn out).

Those four player local multiplayer days when you were 12 were just too much fun. GoldenEye, Perfect Dark, Mario Kart 64, Super Smash Bros, WCW/nWo Revenge and the rest of the THQ wrestling games... fuck we had a blast. Then it had those godly SP games that took ages to beat or get 100%. Mario 64 and OoT alone justified that console.

Definitely the happiest days of my gaming life. Those were the golden years of gaming though ('97-'99) and everything was rocking from N64 to PSX to PC. Goddamn those were some great times.

[Anonymous No.840692]

>>840645
>Most of the 2D games for a start.
That's because it's way easier to do 60fps in 2D.

And because Nintendo discouraged 2D games on the N64.

[Anonymous No.840695]

>>840669
I got it at half the price in motherfucking Mexico... Wait for discounts nigga
>>840670
The framerate Issues were due to programming, it had nothing to do with the machine. A good example is Turok 3

[Anonymous No.840704]

>>840670
This is mostly true, yea. However, it did sometimes simply improve texture quality. So it wasn't all bad.

Perfect Dark needed it for technical reasons. Game had a shitload of content, and it needed framebuffering for special effects.

>>840675
Project 64 1.6.1 + Glide64 Final handles a lot of games very well.

[Anonymous No.840708]

>Best console in history
>Best Library
>Best Controller
>Best Design

NOPE.

[Anonymous No.840710]

Not really, several other consoles are better. I have been playing some Rocket: Robot on Wheels though recently, pretty cool game.

[Anonymous No.840714]

>>840692
>And because Nintendo discouraged 2D games on the N64.

A major reason why I refused to purchase one.

[Anonymous No.840716]

>>840708
Well, it DOES have possibly the best controller. Most innovative, at least.

And the library is filled with gems.

[Anonymous No.840719]

>>840574
On the contrary. Why don't more consoles let you upgrade the power of your unit later on, so that games can also use that extra kick? There was the FX chip for SNES, and that Expansion Pak there for N64, and Saturn also had a RAM booster that it used for various fighting games. But shit like that never happens after that gen. I wonder why.

>>840610
>RE2
>SW Racer
>Rayman 2
>Quake 2
>Turok
>Castlevania
>bad
Get taste or get out.

>>840668
nah, Sony's just too big to compete against. Even if SEGA hadn't totally botched the saturn in the west, they would have lost to Playstation.

>>840501
the hori pad is a pretty great replacement for the three-pronged original and doesn't look designed for octupi

[Anonymous No.840720]

>>840645
Not entirely true... FF7 was nowhere near 60 fps neither xenogears nor Chrono Cross
not that anyone would care about framerates at those times

[Anonymous No.840732]

I would be okay with your opinions other then best controller. That should be a fact that it is far from best controller.

[Anonymous No.840731]

>>840692
>>840714
It wasn't just Nintendo. Sega and Sony as well. All of those consoles had 2D games for them, though the N64 has far less of them. The Saturn is filled with 2D games, and the PS1 has quite a few as well.

So it was MURRICAN POWER that killed 2D gaming. They wanted to show off "REAL THREE DEE", despite glaring flaws in them. And as flawed as the N64 was, at least the models didn't wobble when they so much as moved as they did on the PS1 and less noticeably on the Saturn.

[Anonymous No.840730]

>>840719
I don´t think he´s saying they´re bad anon

[Anonymous No.840745]

It's the best party console ever, but not close to being the best.

It does have the best version of my favorite game of all time (and arguably the best written) CBFD

[Anonymous No.840746]

>>840731
>It wasn't just Nintendo. Sega and Sony as well.

I know. I also refused to purchase a Playstation or Saturn. I went GB/GBC/PC that generation.

[Anonymous No.840752]

>>840732
It´s not as bad as anyone says, I still think it´s really good for FPS
One handle, 2d... One handle 3d... how hard can it be?

[Anonymous No.840759]

Of all the mainstream consoles N64 is at the bottom of my list. I enjoyed my 3DO way more. Not even kidding.

[Anonymous No.840764]

>>840752
Never meant that I wasn't used to it or couldn't play with it. There is just no one it should be regarded as best conroller. If the analog stick was better it would improve the controller greatly though.

[Anonymous No.840769]

>>840720
FFVII is not "2D" just because it has prerendered backgrounds.

[Anonymous No.840781]

>>840759
>"I enjoyed my 3DO more"
>mfw

[Anonymous No.840790]

>>840769
Ok, Alundra and Legend of Mana, still not 60 fps
Still, no one cared about fps

[Anonymous No.840813]

>>840731
Sony actually had a policy: No JRPGs for America. I'm serious. It was only later that they changed their mind.

[Anonymous No.840852]

>>840781
Super wing Commander, Wing Commander III, Lucienne's Quest. Enjoyed those more than anything on N64. I guess I just don't like fetch quest shitty 3D platformers. Also the 3DO had classic cyberpunk groping simulators like Neurodance.

[Anonymous No.840861]

>>840852
Never heard of them, any good?

[Anonymous No.840891]

>>840861
>Never heard of them, any good?

I'm filthy console scum so I prefer to play that way but you might like the PC versions of the Wing Commander games. But I believe Super Wing Commander is the best version of WC1. Plays a lot smoother and is voice acted and looks way better. I've played 3DO and ps1 versions of WC3 and both are great but the FMVs look better on the 3DO.

Lucienne's Quest is worth a burn if you like JRPGs with zero grinding. The characters are likable and it has some Strategy RPG lite game play that I really enjoy. Wish I could find a legit copy for muh shelf.

[Anonymous No.840904]

>>840481
>filename

I see what he did here guys. He's actually right.

>super nintendo picture.jpg

Now we're talking

[Anonymous No.840913]

>>840891
>Filthy console scum
>pic related
Will give em a try, I´m never married to a system but I do try anything

[Anonymous No.840907]

>>840861
Oh and Neurodancer is a piece of shit. There's some god awful gameplay where you hack terminals to get credits. Then you use it to call a sex line thing. You have a gropey hand icon and you point to the clothing you want the lady to remove. If you do it in the right sequence she gets fully nude and a beefy man arm comes into frame to grope all over her. There's 3 women to see naked and with a FAQ you can see them all naked in about 20 minutes.

[Anonymous No.840931]

>>840719
>Why don't more consoles let you upgrade the power of your unit later on, so that games can also use that extra kick?
Because it fragments the market.

[Anonymous No.840939]

>>840813
Didn't they have to fire the executive that later bankrupted Sega to change the policy?

[Anonymous No.840998]

>>840913
I hope someday to see a thread about your experience with these bad ass 3DO games.

[Anonymous No.841000]

The best consoles are the ones who have so many awesome games that many go under the radar, I think the best consoles are likely the NES or SNES, the N64 is when the Nintendo train started slowing down and they lost almost all their 3rd party support.

The PSX is a better machine, and if you can read nip or patch the games even the Saturn is a better console.

There is just something special about Nintendo that makes us regard it as better than it was......

[Anonymous No.841014]

>>841000
Nintendo had a market, they were a force to be reckoned with. Nintendo lost all of that to Sony, and Sony is Nintendo's heir to the throne. Nintendo home consoles will never be as good as the NES or SNES, because no one wants to make any games for it.

[Anonymous No.841323]

>>841014
Seriously, If anyone tried to argue any of Nintendo's 3D consoles were any good

Well, they have some serious thinking to do It's pretty obvious Nintendo just can't make 3D consoles for shit.

[Anonymous No.841354]

>>841323
You sure the consoles are just poorly designed, and not because every single Japanese third party has signed their souls to Sony?

[Anonymous No.841642]

>in@er butthurt SNESfags

[Anonymous No.841717]

The 64 has the most "worst game ever"s of any post crash console.

[Anonymous No.841762]

>>841354
N64 was incredibly weak, and further crippled itself with cartridges. Gamecube could have done better but >mini DVDs

Wii was an abnormally weak piece of crap but the better designed console of the bunch. WiiU is weak gimmick crap as well. It doesn't help that Nintendo is the most self conceited entity in all of gaming but the hardware certainly isn't conductive to getting third parties.

[Anonymous No.841765]

>Best controller
That's debatable

[Anonymous No.841807]

I've owned almost every major console since 1985, almost all of them when they were still relevant if not purchased at launch, and I think the N64 is easily the worst "major" console (basically excluding stuff like the 3D0 and NeoGeo AVS) to date.

Did it have SOME awesome exclusive games? Definitely. The problem is that key word some. Outside of a very limited number of great games the overall library was complete dog shit but even worse was the fact that it was not only a year late to the party compared to the Saturn and PS1 but it didn't have shit to offer for over a damn year!

From it's launch in 1996 until the beginning of fucking 1998 there were only 65 games released WORLD WIDE.

Fighting games? N64 has the worst fighting game library of all time. The ONLY game worth mentioning is Smash Bros. This will tell you how bad it is: After Smash Bros the highest rated fighting game was Mortal Kombat 4. A console without fighting games can never be great as it is one of THE defining console genres.

[Anonymous No.841823]

>>841765
Not sure how anyone could think the N64 controller was good. The ONLY thing it had going for it was the analog stick which BTW was NOT a Nintendo innovation. Sega had analog arcade controls and it is now known that the Saturn 3D pad was in development well before the N64 analog controller was concieved even though the Saturn 3D pad was released just a smidge later. The bottom line being no one was fvcking "following" Nintendo. Sega was releasing the 3D pad N64 or not as they had already design it first and it was known in the industry that analog control would be needed to really take advantage of 3D game movement.

And actually since most 3D games of that era were actually shit anyway in terms of movement with only very few games really maximizing 3D movement possibilities the Saturn's standard game pad was easily the best controller in a huge number of games even with it being primarily a "2D" controller.

[Anonymous No.841834]

>Sega had analog arcade controls and it is now known that the Saturn 3D pad was in development well before the N64 analog controller was concieved even though the Saturn 3D pad was released just a smidge later.

Analog controls were not a Sega invention either.

The Atari 5200 had an analog joystick in the mid-80s, and Pong had analog knob controls in 1972.

[Anonymous No.841849]

>>840481
Yeah man, I love playing my games at 15 frames per second on average.

[Anonymous No.841936]

People can say what they want about the N64 controller, but I'll be damned if it's not the most confortable thing I've ever held in my hand. Seriously, I can't think of any controller ever that fit so perfectly in my hands. Also,

>dat Z trigger

HNNNNNGH

[Anonymous No.841941]

>>841849

I hope you're joking. I just can't tell if people are being silly or serious on this place anymore

[Anonymous No.841951]

>>840505
>all mario games 3d afterwords

yeaaaaaaaaah. about that...

[Anonymous No.841959]

I want you to save a Japanese otaku from "Netouyo" which plans expression regulation with Ishihara Shintaro (Old monster) and the Jimin (not Liberal Democratic) Party.

[Anonymous No.841963]

>>840678
Turok was alright back in the day but holy fuck it hasn't held up

[Anonymous No.841982]

>>841941
you play mario 64 lately? Shit slows down something fierce.

[Anonymous No.841989]

>>841834
Very true. I was more just mentioning it within the realm of who was pushing for it during that generation. There is the myth that Nintendo was the company that realized the usefulness of it for 3D games when in reality Sega was already ahead of them on the idea even if they released their version to the market a hair later.

Main point being that analog control was coming N64 controller or not.

[Anonymous No.842025]

N64 has always been my least favorite mainstream retro console...Everything OP has listed is arguably false and just nostalgia speaking.

[Anonymous No.842038]

>>841982

You're bullshitting. Last time I played Mario 64 was 2010 and on the real console too.

quit making things up

[Anonymous No.842076]

>>841963
It still has the juiciest weapon selection out of any FPS up to date. Though I agree, gameplay itself didn't hold up well, even on PC.

[Anonymous No.842261]

>>840669
You could do 2 things back in the day. You could go to a used gamestore that pulled them from systems and sold them separately and get it cheap. Or find a store that didn't mark the consoles they sold, by one with it, and then turn around the next day and return your old one.

[Anonymous No.842267]

>>842261
This is pre gamestop buying everyone out

[Anonymous No.842287]

Dreamcast says hi.

It's so good of a console that it died for our sins. It's literally jesus. JESUS.

[Anonymous No.842294]

Real funny OP.

[Anonymous No.842316]

>>841807
>A console without fighting games can never be great as it is one of THE defining console genres.

[Anonymous No.842347]

>>842287
Mah nigga.

[Anonymous No.842372]

>>842287
DAT PAL CONTROLLER IN A US CONSOLE

Also, true.

[Anonymous No.842383]

>>840523
mailto:sage

[Anonymous No.842398]

>>841807
>The problem is that key word some.

Because a console can't be good if all of its awesome games aren't exclusive.

[Anonymous No.842407]

Yall niggas posting in a troll thread.

For real

I know

>i made it

[Anonymous No.842746]

> No RPGs
> Best console

Hahaha, no.

[Anonymous No.842853]

>Best console in history
PS > Saturn = N64

>Best Library
PS >> Saturn = N64

>Best Controller
PS > Saturn >>>>>>>>> N64

>Best Design
Saturn > PS >>>>>>>>> N64

[Anonymous No.845240]

>>840481
>Best console in history
>Best Library
>Best Controller
>Best Design

[Zangief !!YG0uo46UrxQ No.845305]

>>840481

I can only agree with the best controller, it did have the greatest series of fighting games however

[Anonymous No.845316]

>>840481
>Best Controller
that's debatable

[Anonymous No.845368]

>>840759
its the original xbox for me. It fails to satisfy anyone. If you want cheaper games get a ps2. If you wanted cheaper games with better graphics than xbox play on pc. Simply put the ps2 had exclusives that pc didnt have while everything the xbox had that was good you can get on pc today. xbox had 94 exclusives and most are shit. ps2 has 467 exclusives and most are crap too but today with no live and a modded ps2 that can run emulators the original xbox just collects dust for me

[Anonymous No.845407]

>>840939
bernie stolar.

yes

[Anonymous No.845408]

>>840481
>super nintendo picture.jpg

It's an obvious troll, folks.