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>gay baby music
>pastel colored backgrounds for toddlers
>retarded faggot voices
>shitty shmup sections
>awful snowboard sections
>garbage "mazes"
>trash "puzzles"
>beam upgrades make robot weapons more worthless than ever
>not that you need either, bosses are so easy that you'll beat them first try
How can anyone argue that this isn't the worst MM game?

>> No.8386290 [DELETED] 

>>8386262
>he got filtered by the shmup and JUMP JUMP SLIDE SLIDE sections
lmao'ing @ your life.

>> No.8386307

>>8386262
>>gay baby music
>>pastel colored backgrounds for toddlers
You have to be over the age of 18 to post here, btw.

>> No.8386314

>>8386262
>gay baby music
You mean electronic S O U L?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y5hlqyhcHj0

>> No.8386325

>>8386262
Babies can't be gay, you pedo faggot.

>> No.8386334

>>8386262
MM8 isn't a great game but none of these are the reasons why

Just stick to mature games for mature gamers such as yourself

>> No.8386348

>>8386262
>>gay baby music
stopped reading there
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emJTt28OB00

>> No.8386354

>>8386262
It was trying to be more like Mega Man X, as was 7 and MM&Bass.

>> No.8386358
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8386358

>>8386262
Part of being an adult is realizing that MM8 was, and is, the best mainline Mega Man game. Nothing from the NES era even comes close.

>> No.8386361

>>8386358
Too bad Inafune wanted to suck off MM2 again and gave us MM9.

>> No.8386368

>>8386262
>>beam upgrades make robot weapons more worthless than ever
This is unironically the only game in series outside of MM2 where the robot master weapons are actually useful.

>> No.8386370

>>8386361
Not retro, but at least MM11 moved away from nostalgiabaiting.

>> No.8386374

>>8386370
Thank goodness.

>> No.8386381

>>8386358
I wouldn't go that far. I love 8 but I still think 4, 6, 7, MM&B, and 9 are better.

>> No.8386387

>>8386368
You clearly haven't played 4, or simply didn't experiment with the weapons.

>> No.8386391
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>> No.8386394

>>8386381
>6
>7
>MM&B
no way, that's going overboard

>> No.8386397

>>8386394
I like them more than 8. 8 is just too easy. 7 and Bass are two of my favorites in general.

>> No.8386398

>>8386387
>*beats everything with ease using MM4 charge shot spam*
robot master weapons? nothing personel kid

>> No.8386402

>>8386262
>>gay baby music
>>pastel colored backgrounds for toddlers
>>retarded faggot voices
Yeah, I agree. This game's art and sound direction always gave me Yoshi's Story vibes, when they took a game yes for children but with still some edge and completely toddlerified it.

>> No.8386406

>>8386398
The weapons are better and more fun to use, you're ruining the game for yourself, but to each their own.

>> No.8386421

>>8386406
>The weapons are better
They are not. Literally the main criticism everyone uses against MM4 (and to some extent, MM5) is that you can charge shot spam your way to victory.
>you're ruining the game for yourself
This is a terrible argument. The game gives you a tool that is superior to everything else you have. If you choose not to use it, that's your own choice. That doesn't mean you should expect the player to gimp themselves to make their own "fun"

>> No.8386430

>>8386421
I played 4 more than once my friend. I found the weapons to be a lot better than just the buster. Spamming the buster only makes killing the enemies a big chore and makes it harder to do a no damage run. Mini bosses especially are better to manage with the weapons. It's not "gimping yourself", you're using your brain.

>> No.8386437

>>8386391
Tight, a shame the game is so piss easy that you have to into speedrunning just to get any form of challenge out of it.

>> No.8386439
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8386439

But it has the best version of Roll. Hang yourself OP

>> No.8386441

>>8386262
>How can anyone argue that this isn't the worst MM game?
Simple, Mega Man 7 and Mega Man & Bass exist.

>> No.8386443

>>8386262
>gay baby music
you shut your whore mouth

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQ9gilrbH5k

>> No.8386448

>>8386439
She looks better without the giant boots.

>> No.8386463

>>8386421
The charge shot in 4 isn't even as good as in later installments. I wonder if you even played the game. It has a smaller hitbox and some enemies will just sponge damage from it. Your argument works much better for 5, where the charge shot is huge and the weapons are absolute dogshit.

>> No.8386471

>>8386387
8 is better about experimentation though, since it has quick weapon switching and you can still use the buster with a special weapon equipped. It's so stupid how 9 rolled back a convenient mechanic to pander to boomers.

>> No.8386478

>>8386471
Gotta agree with that. 8 had some very good features, one of my favorite soundtracks, and beautiful graphics imo, but the way the game babies the player is a big problem to me.

>> No.8386484

>>8386437
At least 8 doesn't have E-tanks that allow you to cheese every fight.

>> No.8386493

>>8386463
Regardless of how you want to rationalize it, the charge shot is busted in MM4 and MM5. To be fair, MM4 is a lot more difficult than MM5 overall, but both games would've probably suffered regardless of the inclusion of charge shot since neither of them have fun boss weapons. I don't know what the other anon is going on about with MM4 having "good" weapons, literally all of them are boring dogshit outside of Flash Stopper.

>> No.8386496

>>8386493
Pharaoh Man's weapon is cool. Didn't find myself using the others much though.

>> No.8386504

>>8386262
Because Comfy Man 8 the best. It isn't hard or challenging, and the music isnt just beep boops for once.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30VhRsLapt0

>> No.8386510

>>8386493
I found use for almost all the weapons in my playthroughs, using just the buster made the game more boring and more of a chore for me so I experimented with the weapons. All of them are decent and have use for different situations. Rain flush especially is good for taking out big enemies that take a lot of buster shots to kill. Skull barrier is good for falling enemies that have low health. Ring boomerang clears out the blocks in dust man's stage and does more damage than the buster. Pharaoh Shot is literally busted. Dive missile can clear out groups of swarming enemies that move a lot through the air.
Drill bomb and dust crusher are probably the least useful.

>> No.8386520

>>8386504
>Dub opening
Based.

>> No.8386541

>>8386262
I wouldn't call it gay baby music but it is definitely shopping mall tier. I can imagine the music playing at jcpenny while I wait for my mom to buy a new dress. I don't like it

>> No.8386551

>>8386541
But it's great.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emJTt28OB00

>> No.8386607

>>8386325
/thread

>> No.8386638

It's a relatively easy game with emphasis on soothing graphics & music. What's not to love?

>> No.8386732

Does this game have unironically one of the worst dubs of all time?

>> No.8386741

>>8386262
shmup sections, that sounds cool as hell

>> No.8386750

Fuck Playstation for killing Megaman... MM8, Legends, X5 and 6, all shit.

>> No.8386762
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>gay baby music
I wish I could kill you with my mind.
https://youtu.be/1HFFvAgTmYo

>> No.8386924

>>8386732
Not even close
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bangt7d9vGA

>> No.8386961

Only redditors hate Metal Heroes and & Forte, the former because their masculinity is too fragile to feel comfortable playing it, the latter because they're bad at it / a youchuber was bad at it.

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8387010

>>8386262
BASED BASED BASED OP DABBING ON THE 8 KIDDIES (THIS SHOULD ALSO APPLY TO 7)

>> No.8387128

>>8387010
Nah, 7 is ludo.

>> No.8387151

>>8386262
>but still solid gameplay
I've played 1-8. Maybe it is the worst of those but it's still a good game.
>>8386358
Troll. 2-5 easily better.

>> No.8387154

>>8387151
3 is dogshit.

>> No.8387198

>>8386510
Drill bomb is better than the buster sometimes because instead of charging up a buster shot you can just fire a drill bomb and it'll instantly kill most enemies.

>> No.8387793
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>>8386262
Mega Man went from being a somber, sci-fi tokusatsu inspired series with a boy robot dealing with a mad scientist in 1-6, to being about some gay child shounen protagonist in 7 and 8, going on gay little Saturday morning cartoon adventures with awful new characters, awful voice dubbing and awful atmosphere. It no longer appealed to everyone, but now only to small little children who like happy bright colors and sounds, like on their Playskool daycare toys full of buttons and levers.

No wonder the franchise died soon after and had to be revived a decade later as a retro throwback, completely ignoring the 16-32 bit messes. Thankfully 11 managed to find the right balance later on with the tone and gameplay (A bit too long per stage for my liking however). But 7 and especially 8 will forever remain a testament to Mega Man's darkest hours. Only children who grew up with these games in particular defend them to the death, since they have nostalgia goggles on real tight. For the more better initated of Mega Man, these remain curios, a novelty, but nothing essential or worth celebrating.

>> No.8387797

>>8386262
>>8387793
autism

>> No.8387924

Essentially for 7 made new sprites for everything in the series but only used them in 7 and the two arcade games.
Then they made gratuitously animated gorgeous sprites for 8 but only used them there, & Forte, and & Forte's museum mode.
Such squandered potential...

Classic couldn't compete with newbie-friendly X1 gameplay, then with Legends hitting and Mega Man 8 being at the center of a feud between Sony SCEA and Capcom over allowing 2D games, it was one redesign too many.

>> No.8387961

>>8386314
I really like MM8's electronic smooth jazz pieces, makes me feel like I'm in a mall elevator circa 1998. I'm sure some will think I'm being sarcastic, but I don't mean any of that in a negative way.

>> No.8387978

>>8386262
because battle network exists
also the music is kino https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-kcGaxcKFI

>> No.8387981

>>8386361
>>8386370
These

>> No.8387983

>>8387154
That's 2.

>> No.8388025

>>8386262
This is the best Mega Man game. Play it in Japanese.

>> No.8388067
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8388067

>>8387793
US fans are wrong about the Mega Man brand as per usual.

>> No.8388564

The thing I can't stand about 8 is how slow the movement speed feels.

Like it's not a huge difference between it and the older games, but it feels just a bit slower for hour zoomed out the camera is that it feels like you have no mobility and have to get everywhere by sliding. Just feels plodding.

>> No.8388672

>>8388564
Why does it feel so sluggish? Is it the speed itself or the animations?

>> No.8388701

>>8388672
I'd say speed. They probably dialed it down to make it easier for begginers. I can definitely see the game working more like a classic if everything functioned at x1.25 or x1.5 speed.

>> No.8388707

>>8388025
You don't get the excellent intro song the US version has though.

>> No.8388728

>>8388707
electrical communication is hell better

>> No.8388773

>>8388701
Yeah it's definitely the speed. The feeling of movement isn't something you can really "fake" with animation.

i think it hampers the boss fights too. The boss fights in 8 have much more simple patterns are a lot less mobile than the bosses in the nes games.

>> No.8389557

>>8386262
The sprites look amazing.

>> No.8389591
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8389591

>>8386262
Love the artstyle for mm8, and clown man music/level. It's like a Macy's store in Christmas.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWZPpUwjz04
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OISet4KJ_fw
SEE YOU IN MY DREAMS! lel

>> No.8389637
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>>8386762
It's all coming back
Fucking slants and their glorious music making skills

>> No.8389641

>>8386262
Youre an absolute faggot if you think MM8’s dancefloor ready soundtrack isn’t amazing

>> No.8389647

>>8389641
I've heard better.

>> No.8389649

>>8386762
>Japanese version has a fun and catchy J-Pop dance song
>western version has one of the best pieces of vidya music ever composed

https://youtu.be/wh5coxa-avg
Goddamn, they really went all in on this soundtrack

>> No.8389658

>>8387793
Nothing screams somber and serious like a game where a blue Astro Boy fights a robot toad that belly dances or a literal robo dreidel in a greenhouse full of giant robot cats that spit mechanical yarn balls and fleas. Classic was just as dark and mature as X and Zero. I just didn’t see it

>> No.8389662

>>8386262
>shmup sections
sounds awful

>> No.8389665

>>8389662
Theres two in the entire game, they take about 5 minutes to compete all together and they’re not hard. Total nonissue

>> No.8389678

>>8387793
Just admit you got filtered by JUMP JUMP SLIDE SLIDE and move on. Less embarrassing that way

>> No.8389701

9 > 7 > 3 > 5 > R&F > 2 > 6 > 1 > 8 > 4 > 11 > 10

>> No.8389748

Voices in vidya are SHIT. That is all.
The Mega Man games without the voices are better for a damn good reason.

>> No.8389897

>>8389701
You just randomly placed these didn't you?

>> No.8389935 [DELETED] 

>>8389701
2 > 4 > 1 > 3 > 6 > 5 > Bass > 7 > 8

9, 10 and 11 are not retro.

>> No.8390206

>>8389748
I don't mind cheesy dub

>> No.8390239
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8390239

>>8386439
my roll

>> No.8390248

>>8390239
that's a really cool face pose

>> No.8390258

>>8386262
>gay baby music
>pastel toddler aesthetic
these are all plus sides
love tengu man and frost man's stages. growing up the anime cut scenes were a real treasure too

>> No.8390259

>>8389897
Post ranking

>> No.8390263

>>8390206
The cheesiness isn't what sucks. The voices suck, Mega Man shouldn't sound like a lil bitch and Zero should never sound like the 30yo mentor of a shonen hero.

>> No.8390385

>>8389748
Schizoid

>> No.8390507

>>8386358
It's realizing that your disgust for it as a child was from the reaction to the awful anime cutscenes. Also, 8 is only better than 1, 6, and 7

>> No.8390523
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8390523

>>8390239
really cute pose

>> No.8390532

>>8386262
>>gay baby music
shit taste
>>pastel colored backgrounds for toddlers
blind
>>retarded faggot voices
correct
>>shitty shmup sections
half correct
>>awful snowboard sections
git gud
>>garbage "mazes"
correct
>>trash "puzzles"
correct
>>beam upgrades make robot weapons more worthless than ever
not really.
>>not that you need either, bosses are so easy that you'll beat them first try
not really

>> No.8391691

>>8387793
>sci-fi tokusatsu inspired series with a boy robot dealing with a mad scientist in 1-6, to being about some gay child shounen protagonist

Definitely the age difference in the next gen of devs, who grew up on anime instead of toku. And MM's big problem is that it never transitioned successfully into 3D. MML is an extremely laid back adventure game, whereas MM games are tight action games. I think 3D could have worked but make sure it's a proper action-shooter.

>> No.8391696

>>8388701
>>8388672
>>8388564
Walk speed is tied to the scale of the screen and how big the sprite is. The 16-32 bit era naively increased the sprites to add more detail, without realizing it would slow the games down. Super Metroid had this same issue, but it was already a slow game so no one noticed. It's noticeable with MM though.

>> No.8392230

>>8390259
Bass = 7 > 9 > 4 > 6 > 10 > 8 > 2 = 3 > 5 > 1 and I haven't beaten 11 yet

>> No.8392238

Megaman legends is the best one

>> No.8393003

>>8389935
>2 is best
>8 is worst
Where do I send your rdt gold?

>> No.8393014

>>8388067
Rent-free

>> No.8393031

>>8386262
Baby's first filter.

>> No.8393049
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8393049

1 > 5 > 6 > 7 > 8 > SNES M&B > GB1 > GB2 > GB3 > GB4 > GB5 > 11 > 3 > 4 > M&B Challenger from the Future > not retro 10 > not retro 9 > 2
>Master Kino-chad list

>> No.8393073

>>8386961
>japanese names
spoken like a true redditor
have an upvote

>> No.8393089

>>8387961
I found that to be one of the best parts of it. The really relaxing music

>> No.8393112

>>8386439
I love Roll, she's so cute and funny.

>> No.8393291

>>8393049
1 is seriously not that good

>> No.8393341

>>8393049
>GB2 above anything
cursed list

>> No.8393409

>>8393049
>Feels the need to point out that 9 and 10 are not retro
>Simply lists 11 without comment
Explain

>> No.8393525

>>8386262
>gay baby music
Wrong.
>pastel colored backgrounds for toddlers
Colors bad, says the ape.
>retarded faggot voices
Not a negative on the game itself. The overseas version has an original JP voice acting patch.
>awful snowboard sections
They were good, git gud (and fuck off).
>shitty shmup sections
They were good, fuck off.
>garbage "mazes"
See above.
>trash "puzzles"
See above.
>beam upgrades make robot weapons more worthless than ever
Then don't use them, you fucking baby bitch.
>not that you need either, bosses are so easy that you'll beat them first try
I'm 100% sure you just used weaknesses like an easymode faggot instead of using only the buster.

>> No.8393983

>>8393073
Ironic considering it's redditors that are weirdly afraid of Japan.

>> No.8394263

Just beat MM2 for the first time, never having played a MM game before. It was good, but I don't know if I care to play through nine more of those; which others of the (classic) series are particularly worth playing?

>> No.8394289

>>8394263
3 and 4. If you still want more try 1 and 5or6. If you want to go to super nintendo I would recommend x over 7

>> No.8394303

>>8393049
Being this much of a contrarian fool.

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>>8389701

>> No.8394358
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>>8386439
>best version of Roll
You were saying?

>> No.8394429

>>8389649
This opening was so good that the MM8 Famicom demake used the western opening theme.

https://youtu.be/16ohlx5c2CA

>> No.8394659

>>8386262
if you want megaman X, then play megaman X, edgelord.

>> No.8395063

>>8388728
It's really not.

>> No.8395127

>>8386437
I might have severe autism, but I think the final boss fight is really hard and gives me trouble every time I replay it ):

>> No.8395175

>>8387924
>Sony SCEA
>not allowing 2D games
SCEA really were fucking assholes

>> No.8395180

>>8387793
>somber
>oh no I heard one minor chord so the game is le edgy dark robot opera

>> No.8395349

>>8394429
It used both

>> No.8395353

>>8386439
It do, but admittedly the game that made people horny for Roll was Marvel vs. Capcom.

>> No.8395419

>>8386262
Either you are under 18, or never grew up and still think like you are under 18.

Don't question why you are single

>> No.8395508

>>8393983
They overcompensate to make other weebs think they're smart, like what you're doing, redditourist.