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8378741 No.8378741 [Reply] [Original]

This game is not bad at all. It doesn't hold a candle to Rondo of Blood, but it's still fun.

>> No.8378760

I like it better than Rondo of Blood. Rondo feels unfinished , doesn't have much challenge, the multi-path system is sometimes very dumb, and the bible breaks the game like no other subweapon in any other classicvania

>> No.8378768

>>8378760
I can't even imagine what you think feels unfinished about that game.

>> No.8378808
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8378808

I've always preferred the title "Vampire's Kiss" over "Dracula X".
I get that Dracula X comes from the Japanese title "Devil's Castle Dracula XX", but what the fuck does "X" or "XX" have to do with anything?
I also don't really get the name change between PAL and NTSC. Did they solely do it to avoid having the blood on the menu screen and upsetting Germany? They couldn't have just not had the blood?
Like, the blood in Castlevania Bloodlines had to be altered and removed to be sold in Germany, so changing the name to Castlevania: The New Generation makes sense.

Whatever.

Love the PAL boxart too.

>> No.8378845
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>>8378768
Plenty of things. If you look at the end of pic related, outside of the windows the background is pretty much just the same one 8*8 tile repeated forever, that doesn't look like acceptable end product and because it's not. If you look at the prototype version of the game, these same tiles were used as placeholder for the underground of the chapel stage before they were improved, in other words the work was done there but not here.

Then you have several dead ends completely devoid of anything, the most famous being the one in the boat level but it's not the only one.

The game is poorly balanced. On top of the bible being more powerful than it should be, the hardest part of the game is the sewers in stage 2... one of the first things in the game (people will argue over this, it's the hardest part of the game because the jumping Merman are completely random, there is no telling if one will jump at you in the middle of your jump with you not being able to do anything about it). Then of course you have Maria who can kill anything in the game in 1-2 hits. If it was supposed to be a joke character you should only be playable on NG+, the way it's designed it looks like it's intended to use her on your first playthrough, so it doesn't seem right at all

The multi-path system is often implemented poorly. In the bridge stage 2', how comes there is an alt exit at the very start of the level that brings you to the same place as the alt exit at the very end of the stage? How does that make any sense other than it being unfinished and meant for something else that never came to be.

Then you have stage 5' which is just sections re-using art from various stages in the game stitched senselessly one after the other, with no boss at the end.

>> No.8378849

>>8378741
Unironically my favorite non-metroidvania CV

>> No.8378854

>>8378808
The X implies it's a spin-off, Dracula X (aka Rondo) being meant as a spin-off of the series

Dracula XX means it's a spin-off based on the spin-off, which makes a lot of sense (certainly moreo than having a single X like in the US version); being Vampire's Kiss is acceptable

>> No.8379185

I fell for the "it's a rondo port" meme for years, then I finally played it. Great classicvania.

>> No.8379187

>>8378741
it is a game
I can say that about it, at least

>> No.8379202

It's fun and challenging, unlike other SNES Castlevanias. But it reminds me of a black market romhack at times

>> No.8379245

>>8378854
>The X implies it's a spin-off
If it's meant to mean that then that's another matter but it doesn't really imply that, it would imply to most that it's the 10th Dracula game.

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8379269

>>8379245
Sure.

>> No.8379271

Who's worse, Dracula X fags or CotM contrarians?

>> No.8379308

>>8378845
Dude you're complaining about a bonus stage and hidden alt paths lmao. Maria is just a fun easy mode too, get a grip. I'm not even a Rondo fanboy.

>> No.8379317

>>8379271
Lords of Shadow apologists.

>> No.8379327

>>8379271
People that defend the Harmony of Dissonance music

>> No.8379486

>>8379327
The music is fine, the game sucks

>> No.8379785 [DELETED] 

>>8378854
Wrong. It was called X because Rondo was quite literally the tenth installment in the CV franchise.

>> No.8379794

>>8379785
so I guess SotN is also the 10th in the series then, smartass

>> No.8379802

>>8378845
His complains are valid though

>> No.8379812

>>8379785
Why would they jump in numbering from IV to X two games later?
Is there any quote from the development staff stating that X signifies the tenth Dracula game? I don’t care if you counted the games on the release timeline on Wikipedia.

>> No.8380235

>>8378845
>In the bridge stage 2', how comes there is an alt exit at the very start of the level that brings you to the same place as the alt exit at the very end of the stage?
Hold on, what?

>> No.8380253

>>8379812
where's the proofs X means Gaiden?

bloodlines was the actual gaiden game, btw

>> No.8380258

>>8380253
She has none, she's just talking out her asshole.

>> No.8380275

>>8380253
>where's the proofs X means Gaiden?
When did anybody ever say that it did?
What’s with the retardation in this thread? Is it just lazy bait?

>> No.8380296

>>8380275
>When did anybody ever say that it did?
Here: >>8378854
>The X implies it's a spin-off, Dracula X (aka Rondo) being meant as a spin-off of the series

Next time actually read the thread before you post.

>> No.8380303

>>8379245
I'm not sure about Dracula X Rondo of Blood and Dracula XX, but Igarashi said that he considered "Dracula X" to be a spinoff of regular action-platformer Akumajou Dracula series, thus he felt he could have more freedom with changing stuff in SOTN (aka Akumajou Dracula X: Gekka no yasoukyoku). Then again, Igarashi jumped in the middle of the production, as the director of SOTN was, if I'm not mistaken, the same guy from Rondo of Blood. Rondo is still pretty much a classicvania, though, so I'm not sure if it really was meant to be a spinoff, but sort of... Richter feels like a "new generation", and for the first time (if I'm not utterly wrong) the protagonist was a descendant of Simon, instead of an ancestor.

>> No.8380315

I think Drac X is better than 4 but Rondo is better then X. I kinda don't like 4 and I can't really put into words why that is.

>> No.8380364

>>8378741
Agreed, although I still haven't finished it for some reason. The difficulty wasn't too bad since the stages feel short but Richter doesn't handle as well as other games.
Overall I really like what I've played, up to the 6th stage I think. The music is great for the SNES and the graphics are better than Rondo, it's a beautiful game.

>> No.8380442

>>8378808
yeah, Vampire Kiss is a nice name

>> No.8380474

>>8379812
Well to be totally accurate, IV is already wrong. In Japan it's just called Akumajou Dracula like the first NES game, because IV is basically a remake of the first game.

>> No.8380475

>>8380474
Enhanced port, not remake.

>> No.8380476

>>8380475
Are you joking?

>> No.8380480

>>8380475
I don't think you know what a port is.

>> No.8380483
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>>8380474
>because IV is basically a remake of the first game.
A shit one at that.

>> No.8380486

>>8380476
No.

>> No.8380490

>>8380486
Have you played either of those games?

>> No.8380497

>>8380483
>almost 2022
>australia-kun still has Super Castlevania rent free
Nice.

>> No.8380501

>>8380490
Yes.

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>>8380501

>> No.8380538

>>8380483
The game itself is great. If it's a good remake is another conversation, but it's quite clear it wasn't trying to be faithful or ecen 1 to 1 at all.

>> No.8380545

>>8380497
If it's actually Barry aka ffxv-kun I'll lose my sides

>> No.8380560

>>8380538
No, it's also a shitty game, the worst Classicvania, and started the trend of dumbing down the core CV gameplay so normies can enjoy it.

>> No.8380573

>>8380560
huh? So in your opinion every CV after x68k is "dumbed down"? Wow what a hardcore gamer, you must be so cool

>> No.8380579
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>>8380560
Son, i'm sorry to say but unfortunately you appear to be retarded.

>> No.8380580

>>8380573
He is extremely cool, I'll have you know!

>> No.8380585

>>8380579
Nah he's right.

>> No.8380596

>>8380585
yeah I forgot that 10 year olds playing castlevania in the early 90s were not in fact normies but xtreme gamers

>> No.8380661

>>8380596
10 year olds were playing mario and megaman, not castlevania. and if they did they wouldn't get very far into it.

>> No.8381480

>>8380580
>>8380585
Take your meds auster.

>> No.8381512

>>8380253
>>8380303

Spin-off has a bad connotation for some reasons and people tend to misinterpret what the word means, probably because it's often associated with one-off shoots or some bad games.

What it means is that they wanted to be free of the some of the story and gameplay elements of the franchise, offer a different spin.
Mega Man X is a spin-off of Mega Man, which turned into its own series, and it's exactly the same thing with Dracula X.

Dracula XX is probably the one the least deserving of the X title because, unlike Dracula X: Chi no Rondo and Dracula X: Gekka no Yasoukyoku, the gameplay style goes back to the roots, to CV1. Although the story is still following that of the spin-off series, that of related to Richter/Maria, so it's not completely off.

But I said Dracula XX is still the name the most suited for the game because it's a spin-off of Dracula X: Chi No Rondo

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>>8378741
It's actually very bad compared to all other classicvanias. The game's physics are hideously awkward and enemy design is an absolute mess. It was only partially reviled for not being Rondo despite the name. The true reason is that the game just doesn't compare to other classicvanias.

>> No.8381568

>>8378845
Damn we got too cocky rondo bros