/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.8363764]

Post your most HATED levels of your FAVORITE games
I'll start.
>All tails levels in SA2 were dogshit

[Anonymous No.8363780]

I don't "hate" any level in my favourite games, but the secret level of Duck Tales 2 was a disappointment. You have to go out of your way to find it and what you get is a reskin of another level, boring!

also pic related filtered many a-kids

[Anonymous No.8363785]

>>8363764
The one cave in every classic Pokemon game that makes you use Flash.

[Anonymous No.8363790]

> All tails levels in SA2 were dogshit

Prison Lane was pretty cool, I replayed it a lot just for shooting and blowing up shit. Mission Street is okay, though enemy jet planes sending rockets are annoying as fuck

Can agree on Eternal Engine, but at least that level had some kickass music.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhPHu_JipRg

[Anonymous No.8363795]

> Post your most HATED levels of your FAVORITE games
> Sonic

Any casino level in any game from the series, hands down.
I fucking hate that shit.

But I love pinball in general and Sonic Spinball for some weird reason.

[Anonymous No.8363806]

>>8363764
The Sephiroth flashback sequence.
Should be an option to skip it.

[Anonymous No.8363839]

>>8363764
>Cellars at Dasa Pass from Unreal.
After all the gorgeous and mostly open-space levels you've been to you have to go through a samey-looking dungeon where it's too easy to get lost. And the music isn't helping either. Definitely my least favorite level from this game.
>Stage 6 of Super Contra NES
Well FUCK those mouths appearing in the ground right beneath your feet.
>Moai stage of Gradius NES
This one is more because of how laser works in this port than the Moai themselves.
>Murder at the Mall in GTA2
The game expects you to murder 100 MOTHERFUCKING SCIENTISTS within a certain area. You know, these guys use FLAMETHROWERS when they hate you. There's a loophole allowing you to use vehicle-mounted machine guns, but on the foot? Big bag of bullshit.
>That rising water level (forgot which world) in Super Mario Bros 3
Every fucking time I either drown myself or get fucking eaten by that big fish.

[Anonymous No.8363852]

>>8363795
Agreed. Casinopolis filtered me hard as a kid. the pinball controls sucked ass.
the casino levels in heroes were decent tho imo. great music too.

I haven't played the classics so I can't give input on those.

[Anonymous No.8363969]

>>8363764
They were pretty meh.

[Anonymous No.8363981]

>>8363764
Fuck Bentley Boxing

[Anonymous No.8363992]

>>8363764
every level in SA2 was shit.

[Anonymous No.8364024]

>>8363992
You're shit, take your opinion somewhere else.

[Anonymous No.8364037]

>>8363790
>>8363764
I like mission street, even if it's for the simple fact that it's his only level different from the eggman ones, although the airstrikes are annoying.

>>8363795
Casino night did it right by allowing the player to just fall through and carry on with the level if they wanted.

[Anonymous No.8364136]

Pussy thread

[Anonymous No.8364263]

>>8363764
>Sonic Adventure 2
Peak of video games.

>>8363981
Spyro Year of the Dragon
Best platformer of the fifth gen.

[Anonymous No.8364278]

>>8364024
Anon, his post was relevant to the thread. Take your juvenile attitude and fuck off.

[Anonymous No.8364296]

>>8364037
>it's his only level different from the eggman ones
It's pretty obvious that Sonic, Knuckles, and Eggman were the primary characters before they came up with the idea to split the story. So they get most of the good levels, while the other guy gets the cheap asset flips. I think Mission Street was probably just an Eggman level they gave to Tails to help balance out the story a bit.

[Anonymous No.8364646]

>>8363981
>replayed Spyro 3 countless times since I was a kid
>still have no idea how to do this properly without just mashing buttons

[Anonymous No.8364665]

Welcome to the terrordome. I don't think I've ever beaten this with anything besides another Escudo Pikes Peak, maybe once with a Cultus Pikes Peak. But RWD or FWD cars are entirely lost in this race and the only AWD car with similar power to weight as the ones mentioned above is the Skyline HKS Drag which can't use dirt tires and doesn't go around corners anyway, all the others are simply too slow for these cheatermobiles. Maybe one day I'll beat it with another car but it'll have to involve serious cheesing and wallriding.

[Anonymous No.8364670]

Welcome to the terrordome. I don't think I've ever beaten the third race with anything besides another Escudo Pikes Peak, maybe once with a Cultus Pikes Peak. But RWD or FWD cars are entirely lost in this race and the only AWD car with similar power to weight as the ones mentioned above is the Skyline HKS Drag which can't use dirt tires and doesn't go around corners anyway, all the others are simply too slow for these cheatermobiles. Maybe one day I'll beat it with another car but it'll have to involve serious cheesing and wallriding.

[Anonymous No.8364684]

>>8364670
all I remember is a race that lasts like 4 hours, I was in 1st place for 99% of the time, even had laps over several of the last cars.
Then comes the last lap and 200m before the finish line I get overtaken. I stared at the screen for like 5 mins, went up, turned off the console, went outside, and never played that game again

[Anonymous No.8364698]

Exceptions always exist of course, but I generally don't enjoy water levels.

[Anonymous No.8365761]

>Think of VtM:Bloodlines
>Remember the sewers

[Anonymous No.8365765]

Shadow, Rouge and Tails were slapped onto the game at the last second which is why they have so fewer levels than their counterparts; since they were a rush job there was also a pretty big drop in quality.

[Anonymous No.8365768]

>>8363764
Escort levels

[Anonymous No.8365770]

>>8363806
I feel like half the reason they remade the game in parts was so that the Nibelheim Incident could be the second game's tutorial
Damn thing is so long it could be an entire prologue to another game

[Anonymous No.8365775]

>>8365768
Fucking this.
Or "survive the onslaught for 5 minutes while NPC is fixing their shit". I remember one of Mega Man Zero games (2 or 3) had such part.

[Anonymous No.8365780]

>>8365775
Zero 2 had that level halfway through where Ciel is hacking into a plane and you have to protect her from spawning enemies, yeah. It doesn't help that to get to that point you had to go through platforming hell.

[Anonymous No.8365781]

>>8364278
His post was not relevant, because OP asked for hated levels in favorite games. If he doesn't like any levels in SA2, it's not his favorite game.
I'm honestly tired of these fags trying to force their "3d Sanic bad" in every hole.

[Anonymous No.8365787]

The tails and knuckles levels in SA2 both piss me off in a very pecial way because the Gamma and Knuckles stages worked just fine in SA1
>Tails stages removed the timer mechanic, added a dumb health bar in combination with the rings system for some reason
>Knuckles stages are bigger, and by consequence way less desne, but combined with the fucked up radar system just wastes time as I'm not allowed to know a shard is right in front of my face as it isn't the correct one.
What were they actually thinking?

[Anonymous No.8365801]

>>8364136
Hell yeah, I like vaginas. c:

[Anonymous No.8365839]

>>8365781
But 3D sanic is bad. I’m tired of zoomers who think it’s good because their first game was Sonic Adventure 2 DX on the GameCube.

[Anonymous No.8365846]

>>8365787
> Tails stages removed the timer mechanic
Thank God. Gamma' stages in SA1 were 30 seconds long and you just rush through and hold aim lock, then shoot.

SA2 levels are more focused on exploration and chain combos, so timer could be annoying as fuck (IT IS, in timed extra missions). Rings just replenish your health bar a little, while health bar itself prevents your clunky mecha from kicking the bucket after one hit.

[Anonymous No.8365854]

>>8365761
i still just noclip my way through that and the other combat sections at the end every time I replay it. I've been shouted down for this several times, but i refuse to use that busted ass combat system to cut my way through 300 monkey, 300 chinamen, and 300 swat men just to get to the end of the game

[Anonymous No.8365856]

>>8365787
>>8365846
How hard was it to get every emblem?

[Anonymous No.8365862]

>>8365801
Well good news, you’re in a thread full of them

[Anonymous No.8365878]

>>8365856
I never got every emblem in both games as a kid. In SA1 I had like 3 emblems remaining, and I couldn't find one of them (because they hid it in some random underground spot on Station Square; years later, I dug it out by pure accident). In SA2, I just couldn't get all A ranks on later stages, Final Rush/Chase and Crazy Gadget were the assest of video game ass levels.

I'd say getting all emblems in SA1 is easier because there are less of them and requirements to get them aren't that high. SA2 wants you to clear everything perfectly including mini-games. Training Chao to win races takes a lot of time and effort.

[Anonymous No.8365904]

>>8363764
Rusty Bucket Bay
Its too damn easy to slip in the engine room and fall to your death. Having to re-collect all the Jinjos and notes normally isn't an issue for the entire game but right here does it become a giant problem. No shame in using save states here. The level looks like crap and Rare had a dumb obsession with shitty looking docks. Must be a British thing

[Anonymous No.8365945]

Not one of my favorite games but fuck this sewer level. Complete massive, extremely dark hard to navigate sewers wading through shit while a million dianogas are in the sewage. Fuck this level HARD.

[Anonymous No.8366026]

>>8365904
If you're going to 100% RBB, the trick is to IMMEDIATELY do the engine room first.

[Anonymous No.8366039]

>>8363764
unironically ALL of the flying levels in the old spyro games

[Anonymous No.8366116]

>>8363764
To this day I'll never understand why Taris gets so much shit while Dantooine is right after and so much worse, to the point where dozens of PLEASE GOD SKIP TARIS patches got made. Taris is a varied environment, a tiered city with a number of things to do, combat is at its cleverest because you aren't crutching with force powers and you are using items and strategies to possibly win at low-ish levels. There's the rich people town with corrupt Sith everywhere and the Sith base, the lower level with an all out gangwar over podracing happening, the lower-lower level with its ruins and zombie apocalypse. Fucktons of Star Wars planets are completely one-dimensional and Taris is one of the best at avoiding it.

DANTOOINE is the fucking worst place in Star Wars. Dantooine is a pointlessly expansive set of dull lifeless plains covered in repetitive dog-lions. The thoughtless copy-paste jedi council drags their feet over handing you your powers and forces you to walk the length of the map more the once (and act like retards if you are showing obvious evil tendencies). The sole interesting thing is a 15 minute murder mystery.

[Anonymous No.8366196]

>>8363764
FUCK this shit.

[Anonymous No.8366289]

>>8365904
>Rare had a dumb obsession with shitty looking docks
Docks aren't the cleanest places, you know that right? Having been to at least one IRL instead of just in video games.

[Anonymous No.8366298]

>>8363764
I don't know if I hate it because in my whole life after unlocking everything, I have probably not ever once chosen to play the jungle level of goldeneye.

[Anonymous No.8366805]

>>8365945
I only played through Dark Forces recently and I was the most frustrated with it when I got stuck at puzzles, all the shooting sections were rather manageable, potentially because I patched in full mouse aim. The sewer level wasn't even that bad once I found the fucking switch to the different sections in the first place, at which point I just had to do them in order, but I fucking gave up and resorted to guides when I got stuck in the detention facility and the imperial city. I still don't understand how you were supposed to figure those out on your own, unless being stuck at puzzles for hours was considered a good gaming experience in the '90s.

[Anonymous No.8366807]

>>8363764
tails is based shut up hater

[Anonymous No.8367329]

>>8366807
was based, they completely ruined his character since he got that tablet thing in unleased and he even regressed in forces when he couldn't fight chaos 0 despite having fought a stronger version of chaos in adventure

[Anonymous No.8367335]

>>8365856
SA1 is pretty easy. SA2 requires A ranks on all missions, as well as doing all the fucking chao shit and the driving mini game. Never have and never will 100% SA2.

[Anonymous No.8367514]

>>8364646
A lot of the mini games I feel you're just sort of expected to cheese. The hovercraft one in the Egyptian level also springs to mind, where I just hang back far enough that their AI doesn't trigger and snipe them. With how many different mechanics they fit into the game it's not surprising many of them aren't the tightest

[Anonymous No.8367519]

All SA levels are dogshit, OP is an autistic furry.

[Anonymous No.8367662]

>>8363785
I'm always angry at the fact HMs weren't removed until the shittiest generations of Pokemon.

[Anonymous No.8367667]

>>8367662
Don't worry, you'll get to experience it with your Gen of choice when they inevitably shit out the re-re-make.

[Anonymous No.8367671]

>>8367667
>re-re-make

That was already a thing

[Anonymous No.8367695]

>>8367671
Not of every Gen, though. Only Gen I has been remade twice, as far as I know.

[Anonymous No.8367701]

>>8367667
Pokemon remakes haven't been good since gen 4.

[Anonymous No.8367714]

I hate racing on this track. Half the track is too narrow to reasonably pass others, and the AI cheats like nothing else, commonly doing a jump on the final turn that's impossible for a human to take without dying.

[Anonymous No.8367767]

>>8367519
the topic of this thread isn't to assess whether SA2 is a good game or not.
are you too much of a sperg to read?

[Anonymous No.8368287]

>>8367714
No one on earth likes this track. I just kill people who are high enough score to threaten my ranking if I place in 5th or some shit, then accept the outcome knowing I still have the GP on lock.

[Anonymous No.8368351]

>>8368287
>tfw can ace the entire GP but place below 20th on phantom road
It's supreme bullshit

[Anonymous No.8368731]

Any level with these annoyances

[Anonymous No.8369024]

Fucking ice physics...

[Anonymous No.8370057]

>>8363839
Oh my fuck, I haven't thought of Unreal in ages. Aren't there a bunch of fucking jump-spider Skaarj spawn in that level, too? Ugh, it sucks!

[Anonymous No.8370346]

>>8363806
I played vii countless times but that sequence never bothered me because of how interesting it is.

[Anonymous No.8370390]

>>8363764
I hated the Gold Saucer part in FFVII. Not the desert part, just the minigames.

[Anonymous No.8370414]

>>8367701
Gen 4 should've been the last one, honestly. Franchise zombies are a terrible thing to behold.

[Anonymous No.8370418]

>>8367767
Are you too much of a sperg to suck my fat one?

[Anonymous No.8370442]

>>8363806
>>8370346
The Sephiroth flashback is home to some of the most kino moments of the entire game, it wouldn't be the same without it.

"I'm going to see my mother."
>music drops

https://youtu.be/qmvYc4jln0o?t=10

[Anonymous No.8370465]

>>8370442
Not to mention how the flashback should really be seen in retrospect, after the later revelations about Cloud's memories.

[Anonymous No.8370473]

The entirety of the Ice Cave in Final Fantasy 1 can kiss my ass.
>damage tiles
>mandatory backtracking
>enemies with hit-all spells and breath attacks
>constant paralysis, petrifaction, and INSTANT DEATH attacks
>and of course, pic related as a boss who also loves to spam instant death

[Anonymous No.8370487]

I'm being 100% SERIOUS when I ask this to SA2 Battle fans:

Why do you like this game?

I don't understand
-the controls were absolute JANK for its time
-only the running stages were okay
-was already at least one year old, and made for far weaker hardware(sorry, Dreamcast fans)

[Anonymous No.8370880]

>>8370473
>damage tiles
the least of your worries, you cannot get encounters on these and in fact it's a good idea to take as many of your steps on them as possible.
everything else is bullshit, you get the rare Mage/Fighter encounter you may as well reset.

[Anonymous No.8371557]

>>8367714
On the subject of GX, chapter 6 is definitely the most annoying part of the story to attempt over and over again. It basically wastes your time for a couple minutes until the track actually makes it hard to maintain your speed with the dirt and tight curves near the end. If you fail it's another few mintues of boring driving to slog through

[Anonymous No.8371572]

>>8371557
At least Chapter 6 is the easiest of all the chapters on Very Hard. Chapter 5 is a goddamned nightmare.

[Anonymous No.8371645]

>>8370487
I am assuming that by "SA2 Battle" you mean Sonic Adventure 2 in general. I played original DC version as a kid so I'll answer on that behalf.

Sonic Adventure 2 was the single most awesome thing in my teenage life. It was so brilliantly, anime-aesthetically autistic, it kicked me in the balls and made me knee to its level, making me a die-hard Sonic fan, which I am to this day, despite constant Sega attempts to destroy that bond between me and franchise. (I should note that SA2 wasn't my introduction to Sonic franchise, I played 2, 3 and 3D Blast years before.)

I didn't even know English properly when I played it, so I could only understand like, parts of the storyline and still got hooked. I just loved everything: the way levels are designed, the exploration, the aesthetics, music, chao gardens, all of it. It was an essence of things I loved in video games.

Well, maybe I didn't like everything, certain things were definitely super frustrating, but I took it as granted. I think the large reason why I didn't hate treasure levels or mech shooting is because I got used to it from the very beginning, I just played the game as is and had fun.

SA2 is one of those "hit or miss" games, it either hits the spot for you or just doesn't click at all. Like pineapple pizza, some people like it and some don't.

Also I fucking hate Battle. They took DC game and made it worse, but because of Dreamcast failure and people jerking off to Nintendo universally, it always considered to be "main" version. Even Steam has a Gamecube port.

[Anonymous No.8371651]

>>8371645
>They took DC game and made it worse
I always hear this but never understand what they're talking about.

[Anonymous No.8371662]

>>8371651
The most blatant example: Security Hall.

It was one of the levels in DC version I replayed the most, it was just too enjoyable for me.
I can't stand it in Gamecube version because they changed safe opening mechanic from just "Drill Kick near the door" to "Find some bullshit switch and rip your ass to open it"

Also, while most of people that I've asked denying it, I think some changes were made to Aquatic Mine level. In Gamecube version there's always one emerald piece in a mine shaft full of annoying ghosts, 9 times out of 10, while in DC version it can be in various places.

Audio in Gamecube version is completely broken and lighting in some stages is worse, Lost Colony is almost pitch dark while in DC version it's just mildly dark.

[Anonymous No.8372020]

>>8371572
5 was my easiest though, the task is simply to get your cleanest straightest lines, which the no-deadzone GC thumbstick helps you on by allowing very fine adjustments to your course. It's not like 7, where the task isn't simply to be good, but to cheese by murder AND be good AND be lucky as fuck. That's true hell.

[Anonymous No.8372031]

>>8372020
The most insulting part is the reward
>Mission 4, one of the easiest, gets you the best machine in the game, the Fat Shark
>Mission 5, one of the hardest, gives you the Cosmic Dolphin, a piece of junk piloted by an 8 year old