/vroom/ - ЯR: Retro Racing General - Bus Rider Edition

[Anonymous No.8361278]

Welcome to The Garage, a thread where fans of racing vidya can discuss their favourite arcade, sim, kart, and any other kinds of racing games (this is /vr/, so any PC/6th gen game up to 2007 goes!). If you’re looking for something new to play or are new to the genre ask other Anons for recommendations and remember to gear up and have fun.

The previous thread was dooded: >8275361

>Interested in a series to get started with?
https://pastebin.com/Vke5tf9e (embed) (embed)

Remember to bump, /vr/ has been faster as of late and threads get archived much quicker now. Don't be shy: ask questions, share experiences! If anyone has ideas for community events, speak up!

[Anonymous No.8361281]

Why don't you just list the games in the pastebin on the OP itself? Makes it easier to find the thread on the catalog too.

[Anonymous No.8361302]

>>8361278
Fixed last thread link, >>8320784

[Anonymous No.8361360]

>>8361278
What are the best looking games on PS2 except for GT4? (because it BTFO of everything else on the console)
So far I think these look decent for the hardware:
NFSU2
NFSMW
Motorstorm Arctic Edge
Juiced 2 HIN
Midnight Club 3 remix
Burnout 3
Burnout Revenge
Burnout Dominator
TOCA 3
ATV offroad fury 4
Flatout
Flatout 2
Test Drive Unlimited

Honorable mentions:
Driver parallel lines

Please suggest any sort of racing games you think went a step further exploiting the hardware.

[Anonymous No.8361373]

>>8361360
CMR05
Enthusia
Tourist trophy (duh)

desu I don't understand how or why would anyone play any NFS on the ps2, the framerate is horrible and clarity is nonexisting, pc is so superior in terms of the overall experience

[Anonymous No.8361383]

>>8361360
Ridge Racer V
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pEmTtuqgya4

[Anonymous No.8361451]

>>8361373
Thanks, it's not necessarily about performance, it's about knowing the capabilities of the console.
Thanks for the suggestions.
>>8361383
Looks cool, will try.
I also remembered:
Outrun 2006 looks cool too.

[Anonymous No.8361468]

>>8361360
I suggest these:
WRC: Rally Evolved (if you live in Europe)
Ford Racing 3
F1 Career Challenge

[Anonymous No.8361484]

>>8361468
>WRC: Rally Evolved (if you live in Europe)
I live in a region with a variant of PAL that doesn't display PAL properly, I suffer.
Anyway, GSM does the trick most of the time.
Wonder why USA doesn't have a release for the best rally games on PS2...
>Ford Racing 3
Forgot about it.
Cool looking game, it's almost too clean but I guess they went for a TV commercial kind of aesthetic.
>F1 Career Challenge
Will try.
Thank you.

[Anonymous No.8361547]

>>8361360
>(because it BTFO of everything else on the console)

enthusia.

[Anonymous No.8361594]

>>8361547
It looks good but isn't it SLIGHTLY behind GT4 graphically?
I got to play it again.

[Anonymous No.8361602]

>>8361360
Battle Gear 3

[Anonymous No.8361712]

In firstMidnight Club trying to follow cars to the race is harder than the actual races

[Anonymous No.8361908]

>>8361602
Nice. Is it playable without knowing any Japanese or will I eventually get stuck?

[Anonymous No.8362000]

>>8361278
Been playing Racing Lagoon as the mood is so appealing, kinda like Parasite Eve. Makes me mad every race and seems impossible to play it without a guide, but so far worth it

[Anonymous No.8362130]

>>8361594
it has better physics than gt4

[Anonymous No.8362831]

I've been playing through the Ridge Racer series and just got to V today.

It took me like 3 hours of retries but I finally beat the first Standard Cup on Hard, and man that felt so accomplishing.
I was on my last chance and had been racing a perfect race in the Kamata, I had been on the first place driver's tail since the hairpin on lap 2 but just didn't have a powerful enough car to make a pass until we got back to the hairpin turn on lap 3 and I made the cleanest fucking drift pass you can make.

My heart was racing because of how easily all my attempts could have been for naught and I would have had to start back from race 1 if any part of my drift was even slightly suspect.
That was just so fun. They don't make arcade racers like this anymore it feels like.

Ridge Racer V is my favorite so far, albeit I'm only 3 hours in. I just wish PCSX2 didn't produce garbage textures on the cars when upscaled.

Ridge Racer was bad, Revolution was better for the first course but still bad and then the last course to me was terrible.
Rage Racer was GREAT but it felt like you could cheese it too easily due to the nature of being more open-ended with you car selection and upgrades. And the AI tended to get in the way too much.
Ridge Racer Type 4 is GREAT and the most technically and stylistically impressive of all the games so far, but too damn easy, even with the American team, once you adjust to the physics the game is just a cakewalk.

But RRV just feels like a step up in perfecting the arcade controls, physics, and overall difficulty and it comes real close to being as stylish as RR4 while being as graphically impressive as I can expect from coming out so close to the PS2's launch.

[Anonymous No.8362850]

>>8362831
Is there any secret code to push the camera back from the car like in your screenshot, or it's just because of upscaling?

[Anonymous No.8362854]

>>8362850
It's in the widescreen hack for the game.
You can find it here https://forums.pcsx2.net/Thread-PCSX2-Widescreen-Game-Patches?page=355 I guess it's mimicking the camera from RR7.

[Anonymous No.8362864]

>>8362831
RR7 is almost as great as RRV. A little bit ruined by stupid nitro mechanic.

[Anonymous No.8362871]

>>8362864
I'm looking forward to getting to it.
I've played a handful of the PSP Ridge Racers, as long the nitro doesn't make the game as braindead easy as those I'm sure I'll have fun.

[Anonymous No.8362874]

>>8361360

[Anonymous No.8362887]

>>8362871
I think that nitro has no place in Ridge Racer games. You should overtake rival cars by choosing the best racing lines and nailing perfect drifts, not by pressing one magic button. RR7 balances this a little with rivals using nitro quite often too, but it's still not what vintage RR, which is inspired by touge racing, is about.

[Anonymous No.8362891]

>>8362887
I agree with you, I don't really see the point in Nitro in the RR series, I just don't want to knock it until I try it.

[Anonymous No.8363118]

>>8362831
For RR4, did you do all the Extra Trials? The D.R.T ones are a step up in difficulty from the Grand Prix so if you're looking for more of a challenge make sure you do those too

[Anonymous No.8363158]

>>8361360
Racing Battle C1 Grand Prix

[Anonymous No.8363214]

>>8361278
Wait a minute, that's Ikarus 256, a bus from socialist Hungary. Is it in NFS? How?

[Anonymous No.8363325]

>>8363214
It's in Racing Lagoon busfren.
Is the Ikarus based off some Hino/Nissan design, perchance?

[Anonymous No.8363539]

The re-volt community has certainly been creative.

[Anonymous No.8363554]

>>8363325
Nope, completely original donut steal AFAIK. They were actively exported though, even made it to USA at some point.

[Anonymous No.8363557]

Finally fucking around with the grandaddy, with all assists left to default. :^)

[Anonymous No.8363721]

>>8363118
I didnt even know there were extra trials

[Anonymous No.8363912]

>>8363557
such a boring game desu, i was looking forward to both that and PGR2 based on the hype and found both clinical and boring as shit. so many better racers on the system desu

[Anonymous No.8364165]

>>8363912
What makes it boring compared to GT?

[Anonymous No.8364192]

>>8364165
no sense of speed, feels lifeless and clinical, time attacking is even boring somehow, 30fps, GT3 is much more engaging.

[Anonymous No.8364214]

>the state of NFS mods
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8x-L8aqyO00

[Anonymous No.8364219]

>>8364214
not even clicking it, that thumbnail is awful enough

[Anonymous No.8364235]

>>8364214
Kuru, we have told you to fuck off multiple times.

[Anonymous No.8364261]

>>8364214
Why do people waste time on making this meme garbage instead of mods that fix the game's awful handling and difficulty

[Anonymous No.8364268]

>>8364261
Probably because they and their community enjoy creating "meme garbage" and aren't worried about what anons in /vroom/ threads say :-).

[Anonymous No.8364285]

>>8364261
There's a mod that makes Undercover somewhat decent
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2OHwCMgBWTo

[Anonymous No.8364476]

>>8363912
>>8364192
I'd have to agree with this so far. But the good news is it's practically the first racer I've played on the system, so it's mostly uphill from here right?

[Anonymous No.8364559]

>>8364476
mostly, rallisport challenge 2 is the one to play mate, fantastic game and xbox exclusive, theres also sega gt 2002, outrun 2, burnout 1,2,3, revenge etc, for futuristic youhave quantum redshift and XGRA, theres a few cart racers etc so theres defo a decent amount on the system to check out.

[Anonymous No.8364586]

>>8364268
why do you smile are you one of them.

[Anonymous No.8364609]

just alt f4'ed and shift+deleted this because of how unfun it is

all the challenges are retarded, just give you some car that handles like dogshit and an objective like "evade police in 3 minutes except we blocked off all the pursuit breakers and ramped up the police spawning and obnoxiousness to infinity"

production value was alright, i like the main menu, but the actual gameplay part is garbage and could have been so much more

[Anonymous No.8364690]

>>8364609
Well that sucks, is that the final version of the mod or will it be updated?

[Anonymous No.8365115]

After fucking about with it for a bit I think i've figured out how to close the gap in physics between the PC version and 9arguably superior) PS1 version of need for speed high stakes: Set suspension to roughly -50% (i.e soft) and increase steering speed by +20-25%. Keep the assists off as well.

[Anonymous No.8365437]

>>8364559
Not racing but the Amped snowboarding games are awesome

[Anonymous No.8365689]

I only just learned Sega Rally 2006 was a thing because of Yakuza 5.
Was it any good?

[Anonymous No.8365690]

>>8365689
Eh, nah. It has a story mode kinda like Automodellista but none of the Sega Rally flair.

[Anonymous No.8365691]

>>8365690
Oh okay, that's probably part of why I never heard about it until now then.

[Anonymous No.8366127]

>>8364559
Thanks, I'll bump these up in my queue.

>>8365437
Always need more snowboarding games for December.

[Anonymous No.8366158]

>>8365437
Fuck it, snowboarding games should belong to /vroom/ too

[Anonymous No.8366276]

>>8366158
ones with racing should but amped is pure freestyling

>>8365437
yeah and have insane osts to, they're a bit glitchy though, i had my character get stuck upside down on a post and could just do tricks until it went past 500k then i jumped out of the glitch and it counted lmao, the dual stick control was clever though.

[Anonymous No.8366385]

Are there any decent steering wheels and pedals that aren't obscenely expensive, for if I want to play arcade racers at home and get some of the arcade experience?

[Anonymous No.8366408]

>>8366385
An old Driving Force GT.
Relatively cheap, FFB, supports PS2 and PC natively.

[Anonymous No.8366527]

>>8363721
Extra trials are available at the bottom of the main menu once you finish the main Grand Prix. They allow you to unlock car 20 for each team/manufacturer combination.
The D.R.T. ones are especially tough since 3 out of 4 of the trials are af Heaven and Earth, and you basically need to use the fastest car available (car 19) in order to win. These cars are far too fast for the track, and will understeer like crazy if you go into corners even a little too hot. Prepare for plenty of wall bumps.
I think D.R.T. Lizard and D.R.T. Terazi are the most difficult.

[Anonymous No.8367635]

I ordered Outrun 2 and it arrived today after seeing it mentioned in these threads. What racing games are you playing today?

[Anonymous No.8367643]

>>8367635
You should be playing the Japanese version with uncensored cleavage and tummy.

[Anonymous No.8367669]

>>8367635
GP2, switched to linux and tried running it for the first time.
Really need to get my controls dialed in right tho.

[Anonymous No.8367783]

>>8367669
Nice. I play GP4 sometimes. Got a wheel?

[Anonymous No.8367963]

bah gawd is the limo slow.

[Anonymous No.8369360]

>>8367783
No, but at this point I might be better off if I stop coping and actually get one.
I used the gyro from the DS4 to play it. Took me a while to set it up just right to avoid excessive twitchyness but once I set it all up it feels buttery smooth.

[Anonymous No.8369506]

>>8367643
Not him, but archive.org only has the .iso version (Xbox) and I'm afraid to run any game self-extracted to .xbe but left unpatched.

[Anonymous No.8370042]

>>8369506
have you used XDVDMulleter?

[Anonymous No.8370183]

>>8370042
That's what I mean by self-extracting, it's just that I've been warned that a few games can end up bricking the C partition if unpatched and I don't have a list of which and am also a lazy coward. What I did end up doing was extracting the .iso contents, mulleting them back into a minimum size .iso, burning that to a disc, and running that through dvd2xbox to patch it juuust in case. Worked out well.
And while waiting for different processes to finish I did find out you can snoop around in the data files using PowerISO and renaming .cvm to .iso, so I can only assume it's simple enough to swap the girl's files in the NTSC-U data and rebuild as .cvm's to have an uncensored translated copy. But figuring out which files they are is beyond my effort quota at the moment.

[Anonymous No.8370605]

Remember anons in this winter season to sat comfy.

[Anonymous No.8371929]

>>8361360
>no mention of nascar thunder 2004 and 2005

every time I cry

[Anonymous No.8372203]

>>8370605
I'm gonna need a /vroom/ approved list of winter themed racers. Vehicular or sports.
Or just good winter tracks, bonus points if they're immediately or easily unlocked.

[Anonymous No.8372523]

>>8372203
The CTR snow tracks are some of my favourites ever desu.

[Anonymous No.8372951]

>>8362831
>the bugged textures in hw mode
fucking fix this shit tranny devs, I don't care about improvements in generic 3d platformer or underage panty quest II

[Anonymous No.8372960]

>>8372951
They won't.

[Anonymous No.8373167]

>>8372203
Need for speed obviously. The first 5 games have snow tracks.

[Anonymous No.8373637]

Ah I knew I had this around somewhere - a guide from back in the day on rage racer.

[Anonymous No.8373643]

Probably would help if I post the first page as well.

[Anonymous No.8374239]

>>8372203
Sled Storm on PS1 is excellent.

[Anonymous No.8374260]

>>8374239
DEAD I AM THE ONE

[Anonymous No.8374535]

What the fuck is with the music for the RRV credits lol
>Thirsty.... Thirsty... I'm thirsty....

I just beat it for the first time. Definitely the best Ridge Racer out of all the ones I've played so far (I've played everything up to it except for Rave Racer). I was playing on Hard which was a fun challenge up until I got to the Sudden Death cup and I had to give up and go back to Normal mode.
Damn fun game. Addicting, even.

[Anonymous No.8374547]

>>8373637
You can really see how they modeled Reiko's face off a dude here.

[Anonymous No.8374573]

>>8374547
You know this was proven false, right? Namco did have real women working in their offices to design Reiko after, they're not dumb.

[Anonymous No.8374701]

>>8363557
literal dad rock

[Anonymous No.8374705]

>>8364609
the fuck is this

[Anonymous No.8374819]

>>8373643
>He wants to get rid of Esperanza
What a shitty guide

[Anonymous No.8376002]

>>8374705
Most Wanted Mod in style of HP2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5fJoPCzwUF8

[Anonymous No.8376026]

Is it just me or are first 3 NFS games much harder than the rest?
I only tried the PS1 versions so far but the rubber banding in these games is truly infuriating, you can drive flawlessly and still lose somehow because the game has annoying rubber banding so you can never run too far ahead of your opponents but if they overtake you you will almost certainly not catch up. That means that there is almost no difference between begineer and expert difficulty.

In High Stakes they made the game much more fair but the later stages are still pretty tough.

[Anonymous No.8376048]

>>8374819
Soul
vs
Soulless

[Anonymous No.8376312]

>>8376048
<3

[Anonymous No.8376326]

favourite NES racing games?
Been playing R.C Pro Am, Rad Racers, Micro Machines and Super Off Road but they're all kicking my ass

[Anonymous No.8376426]

>>8376326
I like Eliminator Boat Duel and that Nigel Mansell game.

[Anonymous No.8376596]

>>8376026
>Is it just me or are first 3 NFS games much harder than the rest?
Yes and no - 2 and 3 aren't that difficult but 1 is utter bullshit.

[Anonymous No.8376668]

>>8376026
3 is harder on PS1 than PC.

[Anonymous No.8376706]

it's such a shame the burnout games emulate so poorly, probably some of the best "racing" games ever made

[Anonymous No.8376721]

>>8376706
The best one emulates fine on dolphin.

[Anonymous No.8376735]

>>8376706
Some minor visual glitches in B3 don't seem that bad to me.

[Anonymous No.8376745]

>>8376706
You can get rid of the black sky by switching to software rendering and back again to hardware iirc. They're playable at least.

[Anonymous No.8376758]

>>8376721
3/revenge isn't on gamecube tho

>>8376735
it slows down pretty bad above 1080p too

>>8376745
yeah but it's such a janky fix?

[Anonymous No.8376760]

>>8376758
>but it's such a janky fix
Yeah, I agree.
Get a PS2 while they're still cheap lad. PS2 emulation is gonna stay disappointing for a while.

[Anonymous No.8376776]

>>8376760
i have multiple ps2s with freemcboot but my oled tv doesn't have composite/scart, and i don't wanna get one of those shitty aliexpress converters

[Anonymous No.8376796]

>>8376706
They work fine though? For years, even.

[Anonymous No.8376802]

>>8376706
Legends and Dominator play very well on PPSSPP

[Anonymous No.8376806]

>>8376758
>3/revenge isn't on gamecube tho
Like I said, the best one plays fine on dolphin.

[Anonymous No.8376808]

>>8376796
maybe only revenge and dominator are bugged then

>>8376806
the first one is fucking trash at least, driving 2 laps super carefully so you can use boost once for 5 seconds

[Anonymous No.8376810]

>>8376806
2 is still a pretty good game despite the lack of takedowns but first one is a really basic, boring and short game that I would only recommend it out of curiosity

[Anonymous No.8376825]

>>8376796
nope, sky still bugged, maybe that software trick works but that's not really acceptable all these years later

[Anonymous No.8376827]

>>8376825
Switch to software mode with F9 during loading, then switch back to hardware when it finishes loading. That's all you need to do.

[Anonymous No.8376836]

>>8376827
i'm not gonna walk from my couch to my pc and fiddle with it, it's just extra jank

[Anonymous No.8376839]

>>8376836
Then just get a real PS2 because PCSX2 will be a pile of jank forever.

[Anonymous No.8376843]

>>8376839
yeah i have one, but
>my oled tv doesn't have composite/scart, and i don't wanna get one of those shitty aliexpress converters

[Anonymous No.8377024]

>>8376843
>playing PS2 games on an OLED TV
Why?

[Anonymous No.8377068]

>>8377024
Probably doesn't have easy access to a CRT

[Anonymous No.8377123]

>>8361278
Any interesting games with a cockpit view?

[Anonymous No.8377125]

>>8377123
Wipeout 3

[Anonymous No.8377150]

>>8377123
Kinda cheating but I hope you'll let it slide.

[Anonymous No.8377178]

>>8377150
It's fine but I've already played quite a lot of it.

[Anonymous No.8377182]

>>8377178
All off the classic NFS games have cockpit views.

[Anonymous No.8377201]

>>8377150
Btw did you have any trouble getting used to it in VR?

[Anonymous No.8377215]

>>8377201
Never used it in VR, the cockpit view is a standard one in the game.

[Anonymous No.8377228]

>>8377215
Oh I see, I thought those black things at the top were some cutoffs from the VR perspective.

[Anonymous No.8377240]

Does anyone have any experience with the neGcon? I recently got one and just got a ps1 raphnet adapter in the mail. Trying to use it via retroarch but have no clue how to go about mapping it

[Anonymous No.8377249]

>>8377182
High Stakes doesn't, at least on PS1

[Anonymous No.8377260]

>>8377249
But it does on PC!

[Anonymous No.8377268]

>>8377260
I think only the first one has cockpit view on Ps1

[Anonymous No.8377319]

>>8376312
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2j1LLGSGayU
This is now playing in my head but also
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VfyDPgxr85I
because it's practically the same beat but at 1.05x

[Anonymous No.8377653]

>>8372203
The SSX games are obvious contenders. May boot up SSX3 myself soon.

[Anonymous No.8377895]

>>8377260
NFS3 and High Stakes suck on PC

[Anonymous No.8378181]

>>8377268
Nope the second game does.

>>8377895
no

[Anonymous No.8378380]

>>8377024
rather 55" than like 24"

[Anonymous No.8378394]

>>8367963
>limo with a pool
That's some peak 90s

[Anonymous No.8378598]

>>8376326
Formula One: Built to Win has to be the most complete one. You can buy parts, travel through different cities and obtain new licenses. Music and graphics are cute also.

[Anonymous No.8378739]

>>8377024
Why not?

[Anonymous No.8378876]

>>8378739
CRT autism.

[Anonymous No.8379164]

Since my standalone thread went nowhere...

This is fun.

[Anonymous No.8379414]

>>8379164
Hell yeah, I grew up on this and URT 2. Absolutely kino soundtracks.
https://youtu.be/WfEAFjW9VqY

[Anonymous No.8379703]

>>8377201
Sounds like a recipe for nausea.

[Anonymous No.8380410]

>>8361278
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8_CijKgcCE
Need For Speed (6th gen) was going to get a TV show.

[Anonymous No.8380696]

>>8379414
I really like MotoGP 3's non-MotoGP career mode.

[Anonymous No.8380728]

>>8379164
Is the PC version identical to the Xbox one?

[Anonymous No.8380857]

>>8380728
Looks like it.

[Anonymous No.8380992]

why do NFS games run at 64 fps? The stutter is annoying.

[Anonymous No.8381070]

>>8380857
No, the XBOX one has a higher framerate due to poor optimization on the PC port

[Anonymous No.8381121]

>>8380992
>not having a VRR panel or an actual CRT

[Anonymous No.8381158]

>>8381121
I have a VRR display.

[Anonymous No.8381335]

Any fans of this game? I just started playing and it seems pretty decent. It's amusing to have people bicker Ace Combat-style while racing. The cars do feel pretty slow though, even when going 100+ MPH.

[Anonymous No.8381343]

>>8381335
I find it pretty enjoyable, feels like a cheesy racing movie with the AC dialog and there's a bit of depth to passing cars, as simple and easy as it is.

[Anonymous No.8381784]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S15Zu5fFZ6w
Honestly I like both versions of High Stakes, the PC one obviously looks sharper and has better draw distance and frame rate but it also has more detailed damage system and longer better career mode. Also it supports mods so you can add lots of different cars.
However I still slightly prefer PS1 because the handling model is more realistic and just feels better despite being less grippy.

[Anonymous No.8381793]

>>8379164
i responded to it, pretty tough game though, dont like how easily other racers push you off, maybe i just suck.

[Anonymous No.8381797]

>>8381335
not really, i have it on xbox and just found it all mehhh minus the great music, the handling is wank with the rally stages in particular being the shitest feel ive ever eencountered in a racer, cant believe it came from the ridge racer guy.

[Anonymous No.8381830]

>>8379703
Yeah, that's why I'm trying to get used to it

[Anonymous No.8382103]

>>8381335
the radio messages is the same font and style as Ace combat 4

[Anonymous No.8382113]

>>8382103
This is because they share many of the same core team members.

[Anonymous No.8382994]

>>8381158
Then it should not tear or stutter. It certainly does not for me. Assuming you don't have a display with a turbo retard VRR range.

[Anonymous No.8383253]

>>8381335
Very fun game. Very arcadeish concept (story, progression, enemies that get nervous) with not-so-arcade handling.
Played it on GameCube with the HUD to the minimum and was a very enjoyable experience.

[Anonymous No.8383791]

>>8381070
Well it's the same game, it's just a weak port. It isn't like NFS Hot Pursuit 2 PS2 vs. everything else.

[Anonymous No.8384796]

>>8361278
Miss this game

[Anonymous No.8385791]

>>8381335
yeah i like it, although the intimidation mechanic is a bit too easy, i wish there were more racers with storylines

[Anonymous No.8386728]

>>8385791
TOCA race driver games have fun light stories with the scottish narrator guy

[Anonymous No.8386743]

>>8386728
well, after the first one they do

[Anonymous No.8387886]

>>8361281
This

[Anonymous No.8388174]

>>8385791
That is a poorly-modeled Skyline.

[Anonymous No.8388870]

>>8388174
could be worse

[Anonymous No.8388893]

>>8388870
...but as per a previous thread autism told us it is a good game!

[Anonymous No.8389091]

>>8381784
you can get perfect picture and 60 fps on a modern emulator
>better career mode
no
it's too damn easy
>longer
what's point of repeating the same races over and over

[Anonymous No.8389225]

>>8385791
>i wish there were more racers with storylines
that's a nice monkeypaw you have here. there are lots of racing games with a story nowadays, but they all play like "you're part of team full of douches and there's a fat mechanic guy, a witty girl who is the manager and you race in events and they're awesome and there are baloons in the race and you steal the gf of your love rival in the end and everything is a giant party"

[Anonymous No.8389227]

cringe minge shite dildo trannies wot u ply skidmarks wank queef me darts post ur times the dao says girls stink

[Anonymous No.8389229]

>>8385791
HEY BUDDY, HEY CHAMP. MY GRANDPAPA LOST HIS CUSTOM TUNED BEETLE SOMEWHERE IN MEXICO - WANT TO HELP ME FIND IT!?

[Anonymous No.8389273]

>>8389091
I found the difficulty just right although the somplified driving model makes th game easier
>what's point of repeating the same races over and over
You know the game also contains circuits from the third game

[Anonymous No.8389278]

>>8388893
The ps1 test drive games are good if you hate yourself and enjoy playing garbage with insane physics like me

[Anonymous No.8389281]

also I can't be the only person who just hates any racing game with a story
whether it be all the annoying characters no one cares about in horizon 5 or the retarded blacklist in most wanted
I just want to race

[Anonymous No.8389287]

>>8389281
Stories can be fun and in Most Wanted going through the blacklist motivated you

[Anonymous No.8389314]

>>8388893
It's not unplayable, but I wouldn't them good. The PS1 era ones sit at like a 5-7 out of 10 depending on the day.

[Anonymous No.8389350]

>>8389281
the only critic I have about blacklist (and NFS "missions" after HP2 in general) is the number of events, it gets old and repetitive after a time

[Anonymous No.8389414]

>>8389281
i like nfs 2015 story the most
chit chat with chill buddies who like cars, no drama

[Anonymous No.8389415]

>>8389414
>I like 2015 story the most

I refuse to believe anyone liked the story or cutscenes in that.

[Anonymous No.8389483]

>>8389281
There's a lot of potential in the idea and absolutely no one did it right, except maybe RR4 and RL which is kinda nice. Honorary mention to the Toca cutscenes.
Most of it ends up being street racer stuff with lingo 15 years out of date or the shitty new F1 games. Imagine a mid to late eightes F1 game with an actual (with fictional characters) story following the season.

[Anonymous No.8389527]

>>8389483
>There's a lot of potential in the idea and absolutely no one did it right, except maybe RR4 and RL
I'd add Driver San Francisco to the list, but it's not really a pure racing game.

[Anonymous No.8389530]

>>8389415
Why? They were pretty cool, and the story had me on the edge of my seat until the final race.

[Anonymous No.8389536]

>>8389527
I did think of the Driver games but I didn't mention them on virtue of them not being pure racing games. Never played SF personally.

[Anonymous No.8389564]

>>8389536
Dude, story wise SF is so much better that other Drivers

[Anonymous No.8389606]

>>8386743
The fucking implication of you paying someone to murder your rival at the end caught me off guard. It was 10/10 kino

[Anonymous No.8389624]

>>8389606
I never got that far through the game to complete the storyline. I watched the clips on YT a while back, incredible way for it to turn.

[Anonymous No.8389670]

>>8389606
I love how retro racing vidya just has some absurdly out of left field twists in it.

[Anonymous No.8389683]

>>8389606
tbf if you can beat that fucking tier 32 in toca 3 i'd murder someone to.

[Anonymous No.8389690]

>>8389670
Destruction Derby Arenas' career mode has some truly bizarre endings for a number of the characters. A load of them end up dying in various circumstances.

[Anonymous No.8389792]

Does any of the TOCAs have a cockpit view?

[Anonymous No.8389803]

>>8381070
just because your PC is shit and can't run games from 2005 doesn't mean everyone's is lol

[Anonymous No.8389807]

>>8389803
Hey....Take that back!

[Anonymous No.8389821]

>>8389792
Yes, of course they do.

[Anonymous No.8389858]

>>8389530
you can't be older than 15

[Anonymous No.8390003]

>>8389690
>Almost everybody dies in horribly convoluted accidents
>the old scottish dude just retires to live on a farm
kino
Might fire up DDA again

[Anonymous No.8390012]

>>8390003
I know this sounds amazingly cliched and a bit of a copout and I've said it multiple times before but it's enjoyable enough yet it isn't a DD game, that's for sure. It's far too clean compared to its predecessors. Powerups were also not a thing in the previous three iterations.

[Anonymous No.8390374]

>>8389281
RR4 is how I think stories should be done in racing games tbqh.

[Anonymous No.8390401]

>>8389414
That's literally the worst. The cast is saying like 10000 words without saying anything at all. Their mouths are just moving and zoomer lingo are just being vomited out. Nothing happens: the game.

[Anonymous No.8390418]

>>8390401
you forgot the monster energy can label being on camera at all times.

[Anonymous No.8391145]

>>8389803
Which comfy game is that?

[Anonymous No.8391293]

>>8391145
MotoGP 3, I can tell by the track map alone (I spent awhile there one night trying to set best lap times - it has a really great course layout).

[Anonymous No.8391298]

>>8381793
That might be one reason I like the Extreme modes since they use a smaller field.

[Anonymous No.8391424]

What do you think would happen to NFS series if Black Box never made PS2 version of HP2?

[Anonymous No.8391431]

>>8391424
A decade of better games.

[Anonymous No.8391436]

Every time I go back to POD I get surprised by how outlandish its art is.

[Anonymous No.8391439]

>>8391431
the series would get even more stale more quickly

[Anonymous No.8391445]

I don’t get what people see in time trials

[Anonymous No.8391451]

>>8389229
>>8389225
i assume you're referring to forza horizon but i don't play uwp spyware
i want a game where the story is about racing like in racing evolution, that one race where you're forced to throw it or get a game over is cool as fuck

[Anonymous No.8391468]

>>8386728
I played the first one ages ago and was impressed that losing a race wasn't a game over and instead the game just kept going, is the third one the best one to play now? From looking at pcgw it seems like the easiest one to run while 2 is completely dead due to starforce and 1 requires a lot of fuckery to get it widescreen.

[Anonymous No.8391495]

>>8361360
Corvette Evolution GT
Very comfy racing game btw

[Anonymous No.8391501]

>>8391424
Are need for speed iii and hot pursuit 2 the best canadian games?

[Anonymous No.8391521]

>>8391501
For me It's High Stakes

I have realised something funny that apart from early ports and other version of HP2 by EA Seattle, no other games in the series were made by American developers

Almost all of my favorite racing games aside from Midnight Club were made in UK, Canada or Japan

[Anonymous No.8391528]

>>8391521
>Almost all of my favorite racing games aside from Midnight Club were made in UK, Canada or Japan
It seems to be a truism that republican stoic societies (like the U.S.) don't find game development as natural. Even in history, the Romans typically left the development of art to the Greeks.

[Anonymous No.8391751]

how the fuck do i get colin mcrae 2005 to run in widescreen? i've tried the command line argument but the game is still stretched, the command line for enabling the advanced particles also doesn't seem to work for me

[Anonymous No.8391769]

>>8391751
fly a helicopter

[Anonymous No.8391781]

>>8391769
what does kobe bryant have to do with rally?

[Anonymous No.8391791]

>>8391781
zoom zoom

[Anonymous No.8391795]

>>8391791
they go whirr whirr not zoom zoom

[Anonymous No.8393189]

>>8391495
Thanks anon, had doubts about trying this one but now I will.

[Anonymous No.8393537]

>>8389281
RRT4 is the only racing game I ever played with an actually engaging story, as simple as it is presentation-wise. It's quite well-written, and doesn't waste your time with cutscenes. R: Racing Evolution also has a neat, solid story.

[Anonymous No.8393863]

Fatalita has set a new world record for the Rage Racer 25th anniversary
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1i8JvHLVqU

[Anonymous No.8393902]

>>8393863
Nice showcase of Negcon

[Anonymous No.8394586]

>>8391424
Why are all the races in this game so damn long? I'm fine with a few endurance races but when almost every event is over 10 minutes it becomes really damn tedious.

[Anonymous No.8394612]

>>8391795
You're wrong, it goes SOISOISOISOISOISOI

[Anonymous No.8394625]

>>8393863
Fucking based.

[Anonymous No.8394774]

>>8393863
Never got the appeal of speedrunning in any game.

[Anonymous No.8394780]

>>8394774
Whoops, that "in" shouldn't have been there.

[Anonymous No.8394794]

>>8394774
Racing games are literally about speedrunning, no?

[Anonymous No.8394818]

>>8389281
RRT4 does it perfectly, just short vignettes that add emotional urgency to the races without wasting your time.
>Click start race.
>"I bet my child's college fund on you winning so that I can pay for my father's life saving cancer treatment. I'm counting on you!"
>Wait wha- 321GO!

[Anonymous No.8395428]

>>8394794
Not all of them.

[Anonymous No.8396650]

>>8394774
racing is literally about time, no one cares whether you get it or not pea brain.

[Anonymous No.8396653]

>>8389281
midnight club 2 does it right and so do the toca games

[Anonymous No.8397090]

Speaking of story in racing games, Racing Lagoon's is fucking based. There is some anime self reflection cheese but it somehow fits there.

[Anonymous No.8397439]

>>8396653
Midnight Club characters are fucking obnoxious
Even more so than in Need for Speed which was at least amusing

[Anonymous No.8397457]

>>8376796
cap of your settings?

[Anonymous No.8397458]

>>8376836
map it to your controller? also wtf, do you not use wireless keyboards?

[Anonymous No.8397461]

>>8389281
most wanted doesn't let you skip cutscenes?

[Anonymous No.8397535]

>>8396650
Piss off, that's not what I was saying in the slightest. I said I don't get the appeal of speedrunning in general.

[Anonymous No.8397750]

>>8397535
And im telling you no one cares whether you get it or ont, pea brain. You're in a racing game forum criticising one of thje best racing game players out there, retardation.

>>8397439
they were funny imo

[Anonymous No.8397782]

>>8397750
I am the anon who posted Fatalita's video and you should chill the fuck down. That anon just said he doesn't get it. Ok, no big deal. He didn't criticise anyone.

[Anonymous No.8397783]

>>8397750
>You're in a racing game forum criticising one of thje best racing game players out there, retardation.
Where did I criticise him? I did nothing of the sort. Learn to read.

[Anonymous No.8397801]

>>8397783
I swear, every time I post anything Ridge Racer related here some autist starts drama and personal attacks seemingly on my behalf. Probably in hopes of giving RR games a bad rep and stigma of attracting autists or whatever.

[Anonymous No.8397805]

>>8397801
It's honestly embarrassing. I can appreciate that Fatalita is a very good player, but I don't get speedrunning in general. That was my entire point. Maybe I should have said nothing so that retard wouldn't have sperged out.

[Anonymous No.8397874]

>>8397805
We wouldn't have comfy discussions here if everyone was afraid of triggering some retard.

[Anonymous No.8397935]

>>8397874
Good point.

[Anonymous No.8398129]

>>8394794
>>8396650
I'm pretty sure he means speedrunning as in going through menus/traveling around the hub world as fast as possible to the next race in order to save time, rather than the races themselves.

[Anonymous No.8398170]

Gonna check out the Test Drive series because of Fear Factory. How good are they?

[Anonymous No.8398474]

>>8397782
pretty weird though not getting the concept of tmie and being ona racing game forum...

>>8397801
sorry but thats real autism right there... giving RR games a bad rep? literally wat? fatalitas a bad ass in RR games shame more peopl;e here dont try to emulate that.

>>8397805
well why the fuck DID you say it? someone shared a cool vid and the first thing you do is HURR I DONT GET IT? well uh thanks thats a great weight off my mind! it's just a complete non post borderline soliloquy, why not say "im not really into doing that but i can appeciate that dudes skill!" or take note of ihs actual times and driving per stage being as you know this is a RACING game forum.

>>8398129
probably, either way its moot and detracts from the video, if i went around in various genre threads just replying "i dont get this" i'd get absolutely torn apart and likely reported.

[Anonymous No.8398491]

>another Cee meltdown
What a fucking surprise. Grow up you manchild.

[Anonymous No.8398502]

>>8398170
Skip everything before Unlimited

Weren't Fear Factory in Carmageddon as well?

[Anonymous No.8398518]

>>8398474
You have serious issues if me saying I don't get speedrunning makes you sperg out like this. You're unhinged as fuck.

I don't get speedrunning's popularity and I never have. Maybe because I've never been bothered with trying to be the absolute best at a game. If I can enjoy it, I can enjoy it. I don't take gaming super-ultra-seriously like you clearly do.

[Anonymous No.8398546]

>>8398474
This is not a racing game forum. This is a general on an imageboard. Completely different. If it WERE a forum, you would have been permed by the admin a long time ago for being an absolute cunt.

[Anonymous No.8398563]

>>8398518
>I don't get speedrunning's popularity and I never have.
this isnt under discussion, you chose to not give the racing video any time and time and negate it with a personal revelation that no one asked for like a defence mechanism for feeling threatened by better players.

>>8398546
pedantic, its exactly the same format ie a specific topic under discussion. Stick to the facts fuck boy.

[Anonymous No.8398571]

>>8398563
>this isnt under discussion, you chose to not give the racing video any time and time and negate it with a personal revelation that no one asked for like a defence mechanism for feeling threatened by better players.
Me not being interested in speedrunning and not wanting to watch a 3 hour video = damage controlling as I'm threatened by better players? What planet are you even on? You get a gold medal in mental gymnastics because I have absolutely no idea how you've jumped to such a moronic conclusion.

[Anonymous No.8398590]

>>8398571
Just ignore him

[Anonymous No.8398594]

>>8398590
I will now, he's making absolutely no sense.

[Anonymous No.8398650]

>>8398594
He's getting his ass beat in the Burnout thread too. Multi-thread shitposting.

[Anonymous No.8398782]

Riddle me this anons - which /vroom/ has the best intro in your opinion and why? There are a great many excellent choices (even for games themselves that are bad). I think I will have to go with NFS high stakes solely for that near suicide charge porsche does at the end which gives me vanishing point (film, not the game) vibes just with less exploding death.

[Anonymous No.8398810]

>>8398782
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3TxyfHbPpyg

[Anonymous No.8398821]

>>8398782
Demolition Racer, RRT4, Motorstorm, CTR, WipEout 2048 and Burnout 3.

[Anonymous No.8398869]

>>8398782
I personally like these from 4X4 Evolution 1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0NcRpGNhGkw


PGR3

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z3SW9i4B_-s

NFS 3

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HTd4jAXt0kc

[Anonymous No.8398874]

>>8398782
it's one of my favorites too. alongside:
gran turismo 1 western - the soundtrack is perfect
nfs hp2,
nfsu - classics
road rash jailbreak - pure energy
carmageddon - this one is on the expositional side
london racer 2 - a cheeky pick

[Anonymous No.8398878]

>>8398874
>london racer 2
really? davilex made something decent?

[Anonymous No.8398880]

>>8398821
>WipEout 2048
Would be a 10/10 if it was just a bit more....lets say full throttle. For the message it is portraying it is very sedate.

[Anonymous No.8398882]

>>8398878
i find the game (ps1 version) pretty chill indeed
but i also love test drive 5 so here you go

[Anonymous No.8398895]

>>8398810
I have a running theory that every game with fear factory in the OST is good.

[Anonymous No.8398906]

>>8398782
what are your other choices, anon? especially along the bad games.

[Anonymous No.8398929]

>>8398906
Ever play street racer? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nKDZWH-k1Bk

[Anonymous No.8398957]

>>8398929
crazy shit. i did. on the megadrive. where it somehow plays better than all the other mode 7 versions.

[Anonymous No.8399179]

YOUR DAYS
ARE GONE

[Anonymous No.8399205]

>>8398650

lmao you can't b fucking serious, oh you are. You are everything thats fuckign wrong with this place ie a shit player clueless cunt who thinks feewings and fwends matetr more than facts and helpful accurate infomation, im guessing its your dumb ass in the burnout thread and if you think im getting beat you're out of your fucking retarded water cum skull as im literally the only pointing out the fucking facts whilst worthless pieces of fucking skinny fat siht like you who don't even play anything and have no idea EVER what the fuck you are talking about continue to push mis info and stiffle potential players from learning what they need to know.

You are the real fucking cancer you untershit spastic cunt, id stomp your fucking head into the ground given half the chance.

[Anonymous No.8399213]

Jesus.

[Anonymous No.8399219]

>>8399213
I wish they'd permaban the rat already. I don't even read his spiel but it's still annoying to see that shitstain's posts.

[Anonymous No.8399239]

>>8399219
Guy clearly has some sort of multiple personality disorder, it's actually amazing how he can go from nicey nicey to absolute thundercunt in the same post

[Anonymous No.8399253]

>>8398650
I've just seen the last post in that thread. Wow. That is not the sign of a mentally well person.

[Anonymous No.8399339]

>>8399179
forgot donnington used to host the euro gp

[Anonymous No.8399547]

Wtf happened in this thread

[Anonymous No.8399608]

>>8399547
Be specific chud

[Anonymous No.8399614]

>>8399608
There's like 20 deleted posts in the last day

[Anonymous No.8399617]

>>8399614
Lightning McQueen hentai (probably)

[Anonymous No.8399620]

>>8399614
They were disqualified.

[Anonymous No.8399626]

>>8399617

>>8397750
>>8397782
>>8397783
>>8397801
>>8397805
>>8397874
>>8397935
>>8398129
>>8398474
>>8398491
>>8398518
>>8398546
>>8398563
>>8398571
>>8398590
>>8398594
>>8398650
>>8399205
>>8399213
>>8399219
>>8399239
>>8399253
>>8399301
I really didn't expect this kind of shit in a fucking retro racing thread on vr

[Anonymous No.8400056]

Anyone here ever tried Xenon Racer? I have some strangely fond memories of the beta but I heard the full game didn't turn out all that good.

[Anonymous No.8400174]

>>8400056
/vr/

[Anonymous No.8400264]

>be professional retard
>get the urge to bust out some old racing games on my new pc
>get everything running
>"hmmm this looks quite different to my old memories, oh well must be that my monitor is much better than the old ones I had"
>forget to remember new monitor is wide gamut so it is stretching the colour space
Remember anons for vidya (especially old vidya) srgb clamping is a good idea.

[Anonymous No.8400479]

>>8400174
Not the anon you're replying to but I'm fine with people posting non-/vr/ racing games here to be honest. /o/ is for sim racing and /v/ is a board that I don't and won't ever go on. This board is far superior.

[Anonymous No.8400485]

>>8399626
Never a good sign when this happens

[Anonymous No.8400502]

>>8399626
You must be new here, this is a regular occurrence.

[Anonymous No.8400668]

>>8400264
fuck I really should've done it when playing Anachronox, that game looked way too dark

[Anonymous No.8400706]

>>8400056
I bought it when it first came out on Switch and was offended by the performance.

Sold it then waited a bit and bought it again on PC, which was fine. Game is fun but feels too easy and jank in places.

[Anonymous No.8400796]

>>8398782
hype
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YMmif4LQl5Y

[Anonymous No.8400945]

>>8400174
Do you care? This is the only place in the whole website that consistently talks about racing games.

[Anonymous No.8400954]

>>8400945
>Do you care?
Not really, I was just being a faggot and bumping the thread.
I reeee at people because they will seethe at PS2, XBOX and GameCube threads.

[Anonymous No.8400964]

>>8398502
test drive lemans is a good game that doesn't deserve to have the test drive name on it since everyone just assumes it's shit

[Anonymous No.8400967]

>>8400964
It has Test Drive on it so burgers don't get confused because they don't know what the Le mans 24 hs are.
It happened to many games.

[Anonymous No.8401109]

>>8400668
It surprised me how significant the difference can be even in a well calibrated screen. It certainly made made the more muted parts (like empire city in NFS III) much less harsh in the contrast due to reduction in saturation. It helps that in my case AMD offers effectively a 1-click method at driver level so it can even apply in emulators.

[Anonymous No.8401279]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfIRDSYIj-4
"...In development at the time, was a dirt bike racing game called MotoRacer 2. The game needed a soundtrack - a popular band had been contracted to do the music, but pulled out when they could not agree to monetary terms. Steve and Rob offered up the services of Bottomdawg, and the other band Rob played drums for, The Have-Nots (now the V-Town Have-Nots). The two bands offered to do the soundtrack in exchange for Playstations, Nintendo 64's, and several copies of the game once released..."

[Anonymous No.8401535]

>>8398782
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n6FX2t1Wokk
yes i like the remix more, sue me

[Anonymous No.8401617]

>>8401279
So... they did it for free?

[Anonymous No.8401646]

>>8398782
I typically ride Rage Racer's big dick more than Type 4, but RRT4 really does take the cake for best /vr/oom intro. It's not just cool music playing to cool replay cameras. It's telling an actual narrative, pushes the emotional buttons, real cinematography on display, gives you a glimpse of Reiko as an actual person, music is made exclusively for the intro, it's got feet, it's got sax, has a fantastic climax. The last 15-20 seconds is pure big dick energy. Actual 90s CG intro kinography hall of famer. Posting it because it's not like Type 4 intro hasn't been posted for the 1000th time:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amDN8XNPFwY

[Anonymous No.8401875]

>>8401646
oh man, i totally forgot to add rage racer intro into my top.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgRBtPyDwMM
as for rr4 i skipped it at the time unfortunately but i totally see why is it so huge

[Anonymous No.8401897]

>>8401875
I wish I had enough skill in 3D animation to make a mockup of a Rage Racer intro I thought up a long time ago.

[Anonymous No.8401903]

https://youtu.be/8tNWYmQUSjM

>>8401897
how do you imagine it?

[Anonymous No.8402904]

>>8373167
>>8378181
What software is used for making such long and clear webms?

[Anonymous No.8402912]

>>8402904
Xmedia recode. The real secret is enabling 2 pass variable bitrate in your encoder of choice.

[Anonymous No.8402979]

>>8402912
thanks

[Anonymous No.8402990]

I swear, the STAR-S body is OP. Such low drag coefficient and weight. Does the handling improve if i find a Skyline R33-34 body or is it not worth it? They have higher drag and weight.

[Anonymous No.8403115]

>>8402990
No, it Just looks cooler.
>r34 body
No such thing sadly, only 30-32-33s

[Anonymous No.8403117]

>>8403115
Wait... wtf, no best square boi R31??
FUCK.

[Anonymous No.8403210]

>>8403117
It seems they lacked a bit of time for the final few cars. There are chassis and engines for come cars that don't appear in the game, it's a shame.

[Anonymous No.8403859]

>>8403115
Wuh? I swear I got a R34 version of the RB25 and there's a RB26 too. That sucks man.

[Anonymous No.8403908]

>>8403117
>best square boi
american faggot

[Anonymous No.8403914]

>>8402990
>>8403115
Also r8 my touge weapon. Just started the 8th night.

[Anonymous No.8403987]

>>8403859
Yeah, exactly. There's the R34 engines but no body.
This also happens with the S2000, and there are some chassis that could've belonged to BMW 3 series (BM3, BM6 engine iirc) and a "Forth WCR", which was presumably a Ford Focus rally car or something. Probably others I forgot as well.

[Anonymous No.8403992]

>>8403914
Great if a bit overkill. You can get by with 300 hp N/A on the touge, probably with better low RPM response as well.

[Anonymous No.8404031]

>>8403992
I'm pretty sure I got 300hp on the low RPMs with this already. If i need to a detune is just a tap away.

[Anonymous No.8404142]

>>8404031
As long as it doesn't throw you into walls it's fine imo. At that point in the story I was running the testarossa engine with as many turbos attached as I could and by the moment they all finished spooling the car warp speed-ed into the nearest guardrail.

[Anonymous No.8404149]

>it's been 2 weeks already
Jesus christ.

[Anonymous No.8404354]

>>8404149
In another two weeks I will go on a stint playing as many snow tracks as I can in games for s very /vroom/ Christmas.

[Anonymous No.8404539]

>>8404354
Any game/track combo in particular? I have an idea for next bread.

[Anonymous No.8404568]

>>8404539
Well my first and obvious thought is every snow track in the first 5 NFS games since they feature it. From there I might head for lesser known titles (especially ones that have cheats to unlock everything since a full playthrough is not the goal) like Speedster and supersonic racers. After that it will simply be trawling through my memory of games I know have snow tracks (ooh rollcage does, that is another good one). I think the last game I will play will be smuggler's run 2 for that cool russian winter. if I can brave it I will actually bust out my disc copy of cool boarders (the first one) but man that game is 90's radical.

[Anonymous No.8404637]

Speaking of rollcage looking sexy.