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8359942 No.8359942 [Reply] [Original]

now that WATA is releasing population reports, is it over for graded games?

>> No.8360075

It was over the moment they were exposed. Not just for WATA, but for everything graded.

>> No.8360104
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qrd?

>> No.8360157

it'd be way too easy to make a joke about how he's not one to talk about scams after making balan but he's also 100% right

>> No.8360209

I hope so. Slabbed shit collecting is even more retarded that sealed shit collecting.

>> No.8360237

Making money by scamming people in some hobby you don't even care about is so scummy. Scalpers and game "graders" would be highwaymen if they were born 1000 years ago.

>> No.8360440

>>8359942
whoa, I'm rich, going to sell my sonic1/2 cartridges and retire

>> No.8360441

>>8360075
You mean I can't list a sealed game for 10x the price of a used copy with the words W@@@@@W VGA WATA READY anymore?

>> No.8360452

>>8360237
That Jim Halperin guy was literally a scammer in the coin collecting market, and even as a kid committed some sort of scam. The fact that he was legally allowed to open a fucking investment collectible auction house is ridiculous, probably has a lot of friends in government or something.

>> No.8360494

>>8360452
>probably has a lot of friends in government or something.
Or maybe he belongs to a certain religious sect with a Holy Book which encourages you to scam anybody not belonging to said religion.

>> No.8360662

>>8360494
He's a democrat?

>> No.8360665

>>8360494
Or jewish

>> No.8360693

>>8360237
actually it's based and redpilled to drain every penny you can out of manchildren before their wife's boyfriend does

>> No.8360707

>>8359942
So, what exactly was unique about the cartridge? It obviously wasn't just a typical like new cib.

>> No.8360718

>>8360707
Chris-chan signed it

>> No.8360725

>>8360707
Michael Jackson signed it

>> No.8360762

>>8360707
it contains the portal to the sonicverse

whoever owns it will become just like the protagonist of that old sonic cartoon

>> No.8360827

>>8360707
It's like NFT, but physical, not made specifically for that and reason why it can't be enjoyed is different - can't take it out of the package without making it a usual cartridge.
tl;dr - scam with inflated prices

>> No.8360867

>>8360665
I got a CIB sonic 1, the unique and highly sought after "NOT FOR RESALE" variant. Starting bid 10,000 dollars. I KNOW WHAT I GOT

>> No.8360869

>>8360867
sorry anon, that not for resale is legally binding

>> No.8360871

Is there any way to actually prove these WATA plastic slabs actually have the game contained within? If they're never to be opened, imagine if someone just made a convincing looking box packed with some piece of junk of equal size/shape as a real game, shrink-wrapped it, and put it in a graded slab.

that'll be 100,000 shekels, goyim.

>> No.8360903

>>8360871
There was a well-known scam where polacks were lifting the seals off cheap pal PS1 games and re-sealing them around used copies of rare games. VGA and WATA even graded a few.

>> No.8360910

>>8360871
xrays

>> No.8360925

>>8360707
>>8360718
It has the combined powers of Sonichu Medallion and High School Ring

>> No.8360938

>>8359942
population of what
who is WATA

>> No.8360953

>>8360662
No, he read the art of the deal.

>> No.8360997

>>8360910
But can an x-ray distinguish between writing on a label? For instance, boxing up a random sports game and selling it as some rare shmup that people go apeshit over

>> No.8361086

>>8360997
The shape of the PCB and the weight of the package could be used to check it's authenticity.

>> No.8361103

>>8360997
Honestly most WATA sealed games are likely legit, but that really isn't the point. The "collectors" care more about the game name and rating number on the WATA slab label. They're effectively trading card currency, with WATA as the one minting them. I remember some guy complaining that he thought the grading seemed too high relative to the condition of the game in the slab, but was seemingly satisfied when other "collectors" convinced him that it was indeed within WATA's grading standards - they cared more that the number on the tag fell within WATA's guidelines than bothering to question if WATA's grading guidelines were fair or accurate or even really meaningful. Internal consistency is all they care about, because they don't really care about preserving top-end condition examples of games, just maintaining or increasing dollar value.

>> No.8362258

>>8361103
wait until we reach the point where WATA slabs themselves are rated and scored on how clean the slab is and the condition of the rating label, and the WATA slab will be entombed in a second-order plastic slab.

>> No.8362372

>>8359942
Is anyone ever going to go after these bastards and shut them down?

>> No.8362429

>>8360867
When I was younger I thought the “not for resale” text on the cartridge was a message from Sonic, like he’s saying “you better not resell this game”

>> No.8362453

>>8362429
"Robotnik was just my warm-up, you little punk! The next one is gonna be you and anyone who dares to sell my fuckin' game, you got it? This shit goes packed in with the Sega Genesis© and cannot be sold separately!"

>> No.8362478

>>8359942
Does anyone know that faggot Frank Cifaldi's involvement with WATA?

>> No.8362558

>>8361103
>>8362258
as a collector I feel bad for anyone who buys "graded" anything and especially for the dumbasses still buying this shit after this vid came out
https://youtu.be/rvLFEh7V18A

>> No.8362568

>>8362478
WATA pays him to appraise prototypes to be sealed in a plexiglass case later.

>> No.8362652

>>8360903
How? Doesn't that break the seal strip with the Playstation logo? And if you could somehow do it perfectly then how would you distinguish it from the real thing?

>> No.8362663

>>8360441
Sealed games are not going anywhere. Price of graded plastic, yeah sure. Sealed games have been a thing long before faggots became infatuated with VGA and WATA.

>> No.8362680

>>8360871
Smash the glass cases they come in and make coomlectors cry

>> No.8362687

>>8362663
>Sealed games have been a thing long before faggots became infatuated with VGA and WATA.
What is the appeal of sealed games? Stuff looks pretty when sealed, sure, but not being able to enjoy a thing sucks

>> No.8362717

>>8362568
What's the point of appraising a prototype or sample game? It's not a mass-produced consumer product.

Anyway, that freak has too much clout for his own good.

>> No.8362807

>>8362687
Preservation of the game. You can play vidya on emulators these days and you could play them in modded consoles back in the late 90s/ early 00s. What's the point of ripping off the factory seal if you can enjoy the game all the same?

>> No.8362962

>>8360938
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rvLFEh7V18A

>> No.8362973

>>8362807
clicking a file in a list isn't the same experience as ripping open a new game on christmas morning as a kid and sticking it into your nes

>> No.8362975

>>8360938
"population reports" are reports of number of instances of games at particular grades that have passed through WATA. Basically a form of rarity scale. An honest population report could theoretically tank or inflate values of certain graded games, though of course there can be other reasons to explain more or less graded copies of one game or another (like some really common sealed games might have a seemingly low population because nobody cares to spend the money to grade them).

>> No.8362976

I bet a lot of old game devs are cursing themselves that they didn't stockpile a bunch of copies of their games with the dev teams signatures on them

>> No.8362984

>>8362976
There's probably a lot more sealed games still out there than people readily know, especially relatively recent games with huge print runs like Super Mario 64, but I guess whoever bought/set up that sham sale of the $1.5mil SM64 doesn't realize that.

>> No.8363016

>>8362984
Of course they realize that. The idea is to get in and make money with scams like that off of the people too dumb or slow to realize that themselves.

>> No.8363041

>>8362973
Of course it's not, but you're either old enough to have had that experience or you're not. It is FAR too late to have it now. The games aren't new anymore, and you're not a kid anymore.

>> No.8363043

>>8363041
SHUT UP

>> No.8363050
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>>8363041
Sorry that you will never be as happy as this Chad, anon

>> No.8363052

>>8363043
Calm down, it's not even an experience you were old enough to have had.

>> No.8363057

>>8363050
Why did his cat just murk him? Could it not just take anymore of his juvenile faggotry?

>> No.8363064

>>8359942
I like collecting games and I have a pretty large collection but I legitimately can't understand collecting sealed games. If I ever get my hands on anything sealed the first thing I'm doing is opening it.

>> No.8363084

>>8362680
No actual collector gives a rat’s ass about this scam, it’s all for “””investors”””

>> No.8363093

>>8363084
Pretty much. I remember when the guy who bought one of the highly graded Sonics revealed his identity, and he looked like some wannabe Vin Diesel "look how rich I am bro" types of people.

>> No.8363096

>>8363057
the real question is why didn't the cat do it years ago

>> No.8363101

>>8363057
The guy was assuredly playing up his reaction for the ecred, and the loud noise/violent movement combined with seeing this sudden and alarming behavior from somebody they (thought they) know probably caused his pets to freak out.

>> No.8363108

>>8363057
cats will often kill retarded offspring rather than waste resources and potentially pollute their gene pool

>> No.8363124

>>8362478
Who the fuck is frank cifaldi? is he one of those retards who are constantly trying to tell me videogames are racist or some bullshit?

>> No.8363152 [DELETED] 

>>8363041
This

I've had the experience of opening games, so I leave everything sealed now to preserve value and condition.

>> No.8363154

>>8363152
That's right loser, delete your post.

>> No.8363165

>>8363154
You're a fucking retard.

>> No.8363170

>>8363165
Now everyone can follow the link and see your shame. Your humiliation is eternal.

>> No.8363172

>>8363170
uh huh okay

>> No.8363174

>>8362687
rarity, or course. Vast majority of games are opened by now.

>> No.8363181
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8363181

>be kid
>ask parents for video games
>never open them
>"anon why do you keep asking for video games if you never play them"
>smile knowingly
>30 years later
>sell game collection for $8.3 million USD

>> No.8363215

>>8359942
>now that WATA is releasing population reports, is it over for graded games?
yeah. it's over with.

>>8360104
WATA, and an auction house that they worked with, were inflating prices of games by making unfounded claims of rarity, driving up prices for entire market. they were also grading games that were pristine as damaged, unsealed and just making shit up as they went.

>> No.8363218

>>8363154
probably got banned elsewhere on this site, you retarded troglodyte. /vr/ truly is the lowest iq board on this entire site.

>> No.8363221

>>8363172
Kek what a bitch

>> No.8363227

>>8363218
or he just, you know, hit the delete button on the bottom of the webpage

imagine being such a newfag you didn't know you could delete your own posts

>> No.8363228

>>8363064
>but I legitimately can't understand collecting sealed game
because they are worth a lot of money, just not the insane prices that organizations like WATA were putting on titles. the problem with such collecting is that you don't know if the game works, if the game in the box is the game you've paid for, and then there's the problem with sealed games that have batteries inside - leaking away and eating the pcb.
>>8363227
low iq, baboon energy.

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>>8363228
>he actually didn't know

>> No.8363234

>>8363124
Pretty much. He's a "reformed" girlfriend beater who went woke again and is now friends with people like Zoe Quinn. Somehow managed to had enough clout within the industry to hoard a bunch of NES prototypes.

>> No.8363239

>>8363234
>He's a "reformed" girlfriend beater
Wut?

>> No.8363242

>>8363229
> gets BTFO
> seething
this board is absolutely embarrassing.

>> No.8363248 [DELETED] 

>>8363229
You can't just delete your own pos--

>> No.8363252

>>8363248
oh no he was banned

>> No.8363275

>>8363234
>Somehow managed to had enough clout within the industry to hoard a bunch of NES prototypes.
Drives me insane that people like this actually hold enough respect that people just send this shit to him. I was watching a travelers tales video about a prototype and half the comments were telling the dev to send it to him. Why the fuck would he send his only copy to that loser? And why does he hold so much authority that more than a thousand randos actually recommended it?

>> No.8363295

>>8363275
He has a history of releasing stuff. Not sure how much he publicly releases these days, though. Presumably they want people to send him stuff so he can dump it, not wanting them to actually donate the item. But hey, looking at some YouTubers, there are some sad, sad simps out there who do apparently freely send off their collectibles to strangers on the internet just because said stranger is e-famous.

>> No.8363318

>>8362652
It doesn't break it. They just unfold the y-folds at the top or bottom, slide it off and glue it back on. And it's basically impossible to tell the difference if it's done properly, so most of the big PAL collectors don't touch sealed PS1 games anymore.

>> No.8363323

>>8362984
>but I guess whoever bought/set up that sham sale of the $1.5mil SM64 doesn't realize that.
I'm sure they do realise that, and are currently dumping as many as they can right now.

>> No.8363397

>>8363275
Seriously? They want Jon fucking Burton to send his one-of-a-kind prototype to some fuck? He can dump that shit if he wants any fucking day. Do they even know how much rep and money he has?

>> No.8363426

>>8362962

Wow, holy shit...

>> No.8363434

>>8360693
unironically correct. People who want to play the games get flashcarts and mod chips and ODEs or just emulate. People who want to buy crap to sit on a shelf deserve what they get. They haven't started grading the actual consoles and you shouldn't be buying more than one + a spare online anyways.

>> No.8363441
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>>8363434
>They haven't started grading the actual consoles
Umm, Anon..

>> No.8363450

>>8363181
I sold Super Monkey Ball and a Lego Starwars game sealed and made several hundred dollars off of them because of that. My parents would get me a game or two I'd ask for for Christmas and then get other games they thought looked good too, but by the end of the GBA/Wii's lifespan, I had so many games already I couldn't play them all.

It's not like I was going to play either of those though, at that time I was firmly entrenched playing on PC and console games had to be exceptional for me to bother with them.

>> No.8363453

>>8363441
How many of these are they actually grading? I find it difficult to believe that a significant portion of game consoles are "grade worthy"

>> No.8363459
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>>8363453
Does this cartridge look grade-worthy? They'll grade fucking anything these days. They still get paid either way.

>> No.8363461

>>8363459
It's in pretty good condition. If that's an 8 I don't know what something would have to be to be a 10.

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>>8361103
Lol, is it me or does that sound a lot like ratings Agencies?

>> No.8363491

>>8359942
I remember back in 2005 or so,
Sonic 1 complete in box + extra poster
very good mint condition, the box still smelled like new
10 euros

>It is PAL tho

>> No.8363494

>>8363491
>PAL
So he paid you 10 euros to take it?

>> No.8363739

>>8363124
>>8363234
>>8363239

Cifaldi here. I learned from my mistakes and I'm a better person now. So, unless you have some protos to send my way, then shut your mouths up. My lawyers are already working overtime.

>> No.8363758

>>8363221
You're a retarded faggot.

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>>8363453
>>8363459
>grade-worthy

Are you just pretending to be retarded? I don't really care for the practice myself but in theory "grading" doesn't mean "must be in good quality", it means rating the product to determine its quality. Which means anything can be graded. You could ask pic related to be graded if you wanted, you'd just get a 2/10, but at least you'd know you could sell it as a 2/10 and not a 1/10

now of course in practice nobody does that, but grading something of "just good" quality fits with the whole point of the system

And yes I still can question the whole point behind "grading", question the integrity and relevancy of the graders, etc but that's not what this post is about. The point is, if you want to criticize grading, at least try to grasp the basics of the system instead of thinking that by definition items have to be "worthy" to be graded

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>>8363228
>>8363242
>>8363252

>> No.8363769

>>8363739
>Cifaldi here.
Time stamp or gtfo.

>> No.8363787

>>8363759
Don't even @ me if you're just gonna repeat the point I already made you stupid faggot

>> No.8363874

>>8363459
huh, is this a recent thing? I thought WATA/VGA/whatever only graded sealed copies, not loose carts

>> No.8363891

It feels like a lot of people are confusing “sealed” and “slabbed” in this thread.

>> No.8363893

>>8359942
the auction house artificially pumps up the numbers.

>> No.8363926

>>8363891
This thread is full of confused retards.

>> No.8363941

>>8363461
Zoom in

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8363971

>tfw they called this shit out years ago, but no one wanted to listen because they made fun of Diablo fans once

>> No.8364028

>>8363769
I'm gonna stamp my fist on your face! Goddammit! You remind me of my ex.

>> No.8364062

>>8363234
>He's a "reformed" girlfriend beater
Police report or admission from Frank himself or it didn't happen. Is it not enough to just not like e-celebs, they also have to be the worst people ever?

>> No.8364071

>>8364062
>Is it not enough to just not like e-celebs, they also have to be the worst people ever
I don't hate ecelebs, I hate bad people

>> No.8364093

>>8364071
Proof? I looked around and saw an accusation on twitter from a suspended account.

>> No.8364121

>>8364093
She claims to have worked with the guy who runs Insert Credit too.

>> No.8364126

>>8363971
If you needed some eceleb to tell you this shit was a scam you might be retarded

>> No.8364132

>>8364121
So it's just pure speculation, and you're running with it. Got it.

>> No.8364137

>>8364132
I read accusation from someone else who did worked with Cifaldi too.

>> No.8364140

>>8363971
why does DK's dick have arms and a face?

>> No.8364141

>>8359942
Who cares. They're all on my hard drive.

>> No.8364286

>>8364140
Wait, yours doesn’t?

>> No.8364295

>>8362429
He is :)

>> No.8364329

>>8364286
Mine has a face, but no arms. No dick has arms. That's why condoms are sleeveless.

>> No.8364805

>>8363295
>there are some sad, sad simps out there who do apparently freely send off their collectibles to strangers on the internet just because said stranger is e-famous.
This isn't just a thing that happens, it's insanely common to the point where YouTubers make multiple videos dedicated to opening stuff people send them on camera. I truly don't understand it. The YouTubers also will often just sell the free stuff they're sent for a profit (Pat the NES punk is widely known to do this)

>> No.8364826

>>8363971
no one listens to these guys because pat is a fucking retard and the other guy is a bitter reseller fag.

>> No.8364835

>>8364805
It's crazy. Imagine watching a video where some guy halfheartedly opens a pile of fan gifts, some of which he's been sitting on for months because he obviously cares so much about them, and thinking yeah, that's who I'll send a gift to. Compound that with the fact that these dudes tend to buy expensive shit with their own money and it makes it even more of a head scratcher. Offer to sell your crap to said eceleb, and if they say no, they clearly don't care enough about it for you to gift it to them.

>> No.8364836

>>8362962
Good video, but the guy really should have known better than to consult fucking Pat the NES Fuck, considering the fact he himself once brought his graded NWC cartridges to Pawn Stars for the sake of self-promotion, as well as what >>8364805 said, all of which makes his seething near the end of the video hilarious and come off as buttblasted cope.

>> No.8364841

>>8360494
It's called human nature.

>> No.8364845

It feels like prices are coming down somewhat as a whole even with holiday season
And good, things shouldn't be $400000

>> No.8364848

>>8364845
Prices will shoot back up again as world leaders are seemingly getting all hot and bothered by some new COVID variant. Markets are already tanking, lockdowns will be imposed, and videogame prices will spike.

>> No.8364852

>>8364848
If everything inflates sure but still everything inflates
And if lockdowns happen again and food supply is unobtainable for most people they are going to be bigger issues for people then getting GBA pokemon games

>> No.8365209

>>8364845
I wouldn't say coming down but they at least plateaued. Things started to become available instead of there not being a single copy for sale anywhere.

>> No.8365397

Karl Jobst ruined any and all chance we ever had at proving WATA is money laundering. That fucking faggot released a video that's almost entirely hyperbole and false information, so now WATA can get away with anything.

>> No.8365458

>>8363057
>Why did his cat just murk him?
instead of ripping his jugular?, we don't know, anon

>> No.8365468

>>8364841
Jewish nature.

>> No.8365476

>>8365397
>wata is actually innocent of all charges, but still bad, trust me

>> No.8365486

>>8363234
>>8363739
>>8362478
collector hands typed these posts

>> No.8365491

>>8365476
Theyre money laundering. Nothing to do with the stupid bullshit in the video

>> No.8365495

The fuck is wata population

>> No.8366108

>>8363057
Yes. Can you blame it.

>> No.8366201

>>8364836
>>8364835
>>8364805
Selling games that he's hoarded is how Pat makes most of his money. He isn't that popular on YouTube, certainly not enough for him to live on in with the way YouTube handles ad money now. He relies on people sending him free shit to the point where he will actively sabotage any projects (like the Coleco Chameleon) that would make his piles of games his garage worth any less money.

>> No.8366396

>Deniz Khan
>Jim Halperin
>Early life section

Every time

>> No.8366480

>>8366201
Honestly I just figure him for a drug dealer.

>> No.8366653

>>8365397
This is 100% true. Once the video dropped, WATA finished building their time machine and they erased all the evidence.

>> No.8366660

>>8359942
BASED NAKA

>> No.8366663

>>8366201
that dude is so fucking pathetic
i remember he made a video getting pissed at the 8 bit guy (who is just a nice old man) because he put a new sticker on a nes cart
fucking loser

>> No.8366664

>>8366653
He fucking admitted to intentionally exaggerating in his video, you retard.

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>>8366663
8 bit guy resells the free stuff too, he has said so in his videos and has even provided a link to his ebay store before

>> No.8368786

Help me understand this phenomenon. I send my crap to an e-celeb, what am I waiting for? Attention?

>> No.8368812 [DELETED] 

>>8360157
A shit game is not a scam. The fact you think that makes me think you're from /v/ in which case.. mods, get rid of this sucka.

>> No.8368813

>>8365397

Got any source to back up these claims?

>> No.8368815 [DELETED] 

>>8366664
>swearing
>slurs
>>>/v/

>> No.8368832

>>8366664
The problem you're having is that you're one of these weird speedrun troon faggots who knew who Jobst was before the WATA video, and you have some previous schizo beef with something he did or said (as ALL of you speedrun troons seem to have some issue with at least one other of your ilk), so now everything he does is immediately bullshit to you. Where does he admit to intentionally exaggerating in that particular video, and what would it change even if he were? What exactly did he get wrong?

>> No.8368852 [DELETED] 

>>8368832
>more slurs
>>>/v/

>> No.8368906

>>8362568
He got at least one wrong I think.

>>8362717
It's because he used to be a "games journalist" and once you're in that circle, you're basically set
He also has a very rich benefactor supporting his non-profit.

>> No.8368925

>>8362717
WATA just slabs it and says "this is probably a prototype." Only a newbie would pay for such a service, because confirming with 100% certainty is borderline impossible, and the 95% certainty is something that most collectors who give a shit can do on their own.

>> No.8368974

>>8363239
>>8364137
>>8364121
I think Cifaldi is a dork but if you're gonna accuse him of shit like this the burden of proof is on you.

>> No.8368978

>>8364836
Pat cries so much about the price of games these days that I had to stop listening to his podcast.

>>8366201
If Pat was making all his money off hoarded games as you claim, he wouldn't spend most of every episode of his podcast for the last two years telling you not to buy in what is obviously an inflated market. This narrative doesn't hold up.

>> No.8368983

>>8368778
Evidence please

>> No.8368986

>>8368925
This is what they used to do, but when they got called out for slabbing obvious fakes, they started paying Frank Cifaldi to verify prototypes for them

>> No.8369057

Do games lose value if there was poop on them?

>> No.8369192

>>8368978
Pat doesn't tell people not to buy games, he tells them not to buy fakes or repros. You will never find him discouraging anyone from buying secondhand originals (which he is happy to resell.) His """guide books""" are just glorified price guides that help to keep prices inflated, because if it's in a book then it must be true.

>> No.8369353

>>8369192
Listen to literally every clip on his channel about the current state of the market. He rants endlessly about how expensive this are and how people shouldn't spend all this money on slabbed games. You are literally making shit up.

>> No.8369362

>>8369353
"The market" does not equal slabbed games. Pat doesn't sell slabbed games and I never said he did. He's a reseller who is upset that all these outsiders are moving into the ecosystem where he makes his money and manipulating the market, of course he doesn't want them doing this. Listen to him whine in the Karl Kobst video about how the graded game market is "so unethical and wrong" when really he's just mad that these highly organized and well-funded people are muscling in on his game selling turf.

>> No.8369924

>>8368974
Honestly, the way he reacted to THQ doing a Q&A at a certain site and the fact that he's friend with Zoe Quinn is enough to make him a low-t scum anyway. No need to spread rumors about him being a wifebeater if there aren't any receipts.

>> No.8369998

>>8363275
The only people I trust with this are DRX and the Hidden Palace

>> No.8370587

>>8368983
>pls spoonfeed
A quick Google search pulls up his ebay store. You can't be that dense, right?

>> No.8370915

>>8369362
can you post any evidence that he is a "reseller"?
if he doesn't sell slabbed, then why does he care so much about WATA ripping people off? your narrative is BS, you just get worked up into a seethe over this guy because you don't like the way his face looks or something.

>> No.8370920

>>8370587
I must be that "dense" because I just googled "8 bit guy ebay store" on DDG and Google, and I didn't get shit.

>> No.8370938

Graded bullshit isn't affecting the price of loose games. This is a scam, but it being outed will not bring prices down.