/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.8352594]

ITT: retro games with plenty of user made content

[Anonymous No.8352595]

Pic related is Captain Claw for anyone wondering

[Anonymous No.8352608]

>>8352594
The king

[Anonymous No.8352618]

Worms armageddon has loads of great maps, it's been around for 24 years now so there's plenty of them too

[Anonymous No.8352625]

Bike or Die for Palm OS had a couple thousand user levels. http://bike.toyspring.com/levels.php

[Anonymous No.8352639]

>>8352625
I miss my Motorola MPx220 bros

[Anonymous No.8352804]

Starcraft Brood War has had a flood of custom maps made for it since it was released. Shortly after release, official tournaments were already being done using entirely fan-made maps. To this day, more tournaments have been done with fan-made maps than official blizzard maps. More than a few have become the most played maps in the game, including Fighting Spirit, Circuit Breakers, Python, Match Point, and Sylphid/Neo Sylphid. That doesn't even cover all the Use Map Settings special maps with unique gameplay like Random Tower Defense, or Poker.

[Anonymous No.8352818]

>>8352594
Tomb Raider 1-5 have thousands of custom levels, primarily Tomb Raider 4.
I'm legitimately concerned about what will happen when this site's host dies irl, since they don't have a torrent of all of their files or anything.
https://www.trle.net/

[Anonymous No.8352821]

romkk

[Anonymous No.8352831]

>>8352594
Thief 1 and 2
Myth II: Soulblighter

[Anonymous No.8352856]

>>8352818
>they don't have a torrent
you know you can make one... right?

[Anonymous No.8352878]

>>8352856
The problem is, I could also not do that.

[Anonymous No.8353812]

Tons of mods and user made content for DOOM. Also some awesome shit has come out for SWAT 4

[Anonymous No.8353814]

You could probably play 20 doom wads a day, for the rest of your life and still have an ungodly number more to go when you finally die

[Anonymous No.8353817]

>>8352594
somehow Sonic the Hedgehog

[Anonymous No.8353827]

>>8353812
>>8353814
Doom is such an easy answer that OP ought to have stated
>Hardmode: besides Doom

Didn't know that SWAT 4 had a modding scene though, that's gnarly.

[Anonymous No.8353835]

People releasing hacks that are better than the base game daily

[Anonymous No.8353841]

Zelda Classic. It's a native PC re-implementation of the original Legend of Zelda that first released in 1999. Thousands and thousands of custom "quests" (many of which are basically full Zelda games) exist.

[Anonymous No.8353869]

>>8353841
How have I never heard of this?

[Anonymous No.8353913]

>>8353869
It's fantastic, check it out. It can be a bit finicky on modern OS's like Windows 10 though. I had to download a slightly older version to be able to play in fullscreen without crashing, for example. I also have had a myriad of strange controller issues, but that could just be my controller and the mapping software I use. If you can get it working to your satisfaction, you'll love it if you're a Zelda fan.

[Anonymous No.8353923]

https://lvlworld.com/
>last update 20 days

[Anonymous No.8353940]

>>8353817
Not too surprising, Sonicfags get busy.
>>8353827
Yeah but it's just obligatory, and worth mentioning if it wasn't for the fact it has a general dedicated to it already.
Another very obvious answer: the first three Pokemon gens.
Super Mario World.
And I guess Metroid?

[Anonymous No.8353951]

Do things like MUGEN and RPG Maker count?
Also has mugen always been an inherently shit engine or has there been people who could unironically make it produce a decent fighting game?

[Anonymous No.8353976]

>>8352594

[Anonymous No.8353985]

>>8353951
I'd say they count. They're both older than a lot of PC games that are talked about here.

[Anonymous No.8354005]

No one has mentioned Neverwinter Nights? The quality of the user content far exceeds the official campaigns made by Bioware.

[Anonymous No.8354029]

>>8352594
dink smallwood

[Anonymous No.8355181]

>>8353827
>Didn't know that SWAT 4 had a modding scene though, that's gnarly.
Yes I think the community is still going strong because no games have ever come out to replace SWAT 4. The "tactical shooter" genre is mostly dead and SWAT 4 was rather unique even within that genre. The most popular mod is Elite Force. Adds a bunch of stuff and improves AI. There is a new one called First Responders but I'm not sure if it's out yet. I wish SWAT 3 got half as much attention since there are things I prefer about that game.

[Anonymous No.8355320]

>>8352594

[Anonymous No.8355375]

Jazz Jackrabbit 2

[Anonymous No.8355390]

Boulder Dash

[Anonymous No.8355451]

>>8352618
Wow. Fucking maps for Worms.
You don't even look at it most time you're playing Worms.

[Anonymous No.8355493]

>>8355451
you don't look at the maps if you're bad at the game, sure

[Anonymous No.8355521]

>>8352608
oh how i miss flash games i fucking loved that one

[Anonymous No.8356045]

>>8353913
Interesting, I'll have to give it a look. The only Zelda games I've ever really liked are the old top-down ones (first played Seasons and Ages back in summer, had a fantastic time).

[Anonymous No.8356054]

>>8355181
>The "tactical shooter" genre is mostly dead and SWAT 4 was rather unique even within that genre.
I guess it is. The only other tactical realistic shooter around these days which I can think of is Hideous Destructor, which is a mod for Doom, also very unique in its niche, has its own sub-community of mods.

[Anonymous No.8356085]

>>8356045
played minish cap? by far the best 2d zelda imo

[Anonymous No.8356093]

>>8353951
>>8353985
Why didn't the Beats of Rage scene take off as much as the MUGEN scene? You'd think people would still care about beat-em-ups

[Anonymous No.8356116]

>>8356085
I actually haven't, but I suppose I oughta give it a roll some day, since I like the other topdown Zelders so much.

[Anonymous No.8356121]

>>8356116
it's link to the past on crack, great graphics and you have a roll feature, tons of sidequest stuff and items
really recommended, especially the music

[Anonymous No.8356484]

>>8356054
>Hideous Destructor
Never heard of this. Looks cool. I'll check it out. Thanks. Doom with lean mechanics, whodathunk

[Anonymous No.8356891]

>>8356484
It's very different from basic Doom, because the shooting mechanics are much more like realistic shooters. Probably also has some of the most realistic and detailed wounding mechanics of the entire genre of first person shooters, in how wounds need to be properly managed, and injures stack up. Of course, it's still Doom as a setting, so there's ridiculous sci-fi stuff to keep you going, but even if you get fucked up beyond belief to the point medical science couldn't fix you, it's again, still Doom, so besides demons from hell, and hell itself, there's also magic, and the right kind of magic can fix just about anything. The wrong kind of magic can also ruin things.

What makes it stand out from other realistic shooters is that it's Doom, so you still have the abstract level design, you still have the aforementioned demons, and their vicious magic, so besides dudes with guns, there's reinterpretations of all the classic monstrosities to be truly merciless in their own ways.
The monsters don't play very fair, and given the nature of Doom levels being made for a very different kind of gameplay, some levels aren't necessarily realistically beatable, or they require unorthodox approaches, including breaching locked doors and barriers with explosives, shooting through walls, setting tripwire grenade traps, setting up different kinds of sentry guns, remote activating doors and switches, etc, so the player has all kinds of tricks on their own to use against the monsters.
With how item spawning is randomized, and you have an inventory to keep stuff in, Hideous Destructor also has a strong Roguelike element to it, you can ransack a random ammo box or backpack to find something you didn't know you wanted.

https://youtu.be/jNTX38yJK4o
It has a learning curve, and isn't for everyone, but it's also a very unique flavor. You can be very slow, methodical, and cautious in your approach, but often being fast, reckless, and hardboiled, can give you a the best results.

[Anonymous No.8357320]

>>8356891
I feel like HD is a lot of fun with "scary" levels; you can make Doom feel like a survival horror by using HD in the right environment.

[Anonymous No.8357351]

>>8356891
This sounds and looks amazing. I'm going to give it a shot and hopefully end up playing the fuck out of HD.

[Anonymous No.8357629]

>>8352878
why?

[Anonymous No.8357641]

>>8353923
it's over

[Anonymous No.8357661]

>>8357629
Too much work. Let me be legitimately concerned instead.

[Anonymous No.8357717]

>>8355181
>>8356054
The Arma series is still going strong after 20 years, but I suppose you mean indoor tactical shooters. Those will remain dead for as long as it remains hard to program effective close quarters AI.

[Anonymous No.8357819]

>>8355181
ready or not soon (tm)

[Anonymous No.8358037]

Re-Volt has probably around two thousand custom tracks and over twice as many custom cars. It's a game about racing with rc cars, sometimes with weapons like in mario kart.

[Anonymous No.8358164]

>>8358037
first game i ever played and i still love it :)

[Anonymous No.8358202]

>>8353951
There's a decent compilation called Capcom vs SNK Evolution Rev 2 and Touhou Gensokyo Reloaded. I don't know of any original games, the latter has some Touhou characters that weren't in the official fighting titles though.

>>8356093
Dungeons and Dragons Animated Series came out a couple of months ago and is pretty cool.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gb0XsMNVkfg

[Anonymous No.8358227]

Glider PRO for the Mac had hundreds. There's a browser version with a couple of the notable ones here: https://galeforcegames.itch.io/aerofoil and and a bootable disk image containing most of the levels here: https://archive.org/details/gliderpro

[Anonymous No.8358245]

>>8352594
In the early 2000s my poor as fuck family finally got our first computer. Unfortunately it was a big piece of shit that could barely keep up with word processing so I played a bunch of older abandonware games, freeware games, and flash games. I spent countless hours downloading shitty final fantasy and zelda "fan games" within ZZT. Shit was comfy.

[Anonymous No.8359726]

>>8352594

[Anonymous No.8359742]

>>8359726
Who was making missions for this game when Operation Flashpoint exists, lol

[Anonymous No.8359993]

>>8359742
People who want a game with competent AI rather than larping in a "unit" online.

[Anonymous No.8360081]

>>8359742
GR is more approachable, don't get me wrong I love both. I don't know which has more content, maybe for vehicles, weapons, etc. OFP takes the cake, but Heroes Unleashed for GR adds 300 maps and God knows how many missions, not to mention the different modes you can play those missions like firefight and whatnot. Also, for creating your own missions OFP is better and easier to do.

[Anonymous No.8360085]

>>8359993
picrel

[Anonymous No.8360118]

>>8357717
Yes, ARMA, Ground Branch, and what else? I do prefer indoor stuff like the original R6 games. I don't really care about AI though as multiplayer is where the real fun is.

>>8357819
> ready or not
Vaporware. Even if it does come out, I'm not completely sold on the game itself. I doubt it actually be a "realistic," "tactical" shooter. In a recent video they showed the player pull a bullet out of his arm with pliers after a firefight. Some apologists on plebbit from the "NDA discord server" suggested it was a "placeholder" animation. Obviously that's bullshit. They probably ran out of money and are realizing that in order for the game to sell in large numbers, they will need to appeal to normies with bullshit like "healing" mechanics.

[Anonymous No.8360481]

>>8359993
Funny that you think Ghost Recon had better AI and that Operation Flashpoint didn't absolutely mog it in singleplayer too

[Anonymous No.8360612]

Gravity Defied.

[Anonymous No.8360770]

>>8355320
>>8355375
Same anon? I might know you from the next poster play previous game thread

[Anonymous No.8360775]

[Anonymous No.8360929]

>>8360770
haha, yeah you busted me.

[Anonymous No.8360992]

>>8352594
>>8352618
Worms indeed
Plenty of custom levels and sound sets for even the older versions.

[Anonymous No.8361002]

>>8352618
Worms indeed
Plenty of custom levels and sound sets for even the older versions.
http://aminet.net/search?name=worms&path[]=game/data

[Anonymous No.8361031]

>>8355375
reminds me of rayman designer

[Anonymous No.8361067]

>>8352594
Not sure if someone archived it, since most of the Fire Pro Wrestling forums disappeared, but at a time there were countless of various save games for Fire Pro Wrestling Returns (PS2) but also the older games of the series with whole leagues of new and old wrestlers, ring designs and all sorts of packages. Even pure SIM tournaments were going on at the time. For Fire Pro Wrestling D on the Dreamcast there were even official saves available for download with an updated roster and new move animations as some kind of early (and free!) DLC.

[Anonymous No.8361125]

>>8353827
Add Pokémon to that. The amount of romhacks is countless.

[Anonymous No.8361294]

>>8352818
You got me curious. I don't play Tomb Raider, but I am handy with shell scripts, so I'm writing something to rip all the maps divided into folders by game, and then I'll make a torrent of them.

[Anonymous No.8361346]

>>8361294
https://pastebin.com/hKYy1w6p
there, hacky but it works... now you can fetch them all too. This is I guess gonna run in the background probably overnight, then I'll figure out how to make a torrent, or stick it on IPFS, or something.

[Anonymous No.8361387]

>>8361346
>>8361294
Absolute king

[Anonymous No.8361752]

>>8360929
nice, then I'd like to curse you one more time and thank you. had a lot of unused shit on that partition

[Anonymous No.8362764]

>>8361346
>>8361294
>>8352818
Welp, that's all of them. Tomorrow I guess I'll figure out how to make a torrent or IPFS it and then someone with a seedbox or whatever can start pulling from me if they want. idk. I guess also some code to regularly keep it up-to-date would be useful. Maybe some other time. But, anon, at least now you know there is at least one person out there with the complete set of Tomb Raider Level Editor maps downloaded

[Anonymous No.8363002]

Gonna post some of the more popular modern SC:BW fan-made maps currently in use, as well as a quick rundown of the map. These are some of the most balanced and fair maps in the game, and far better than any of the stock maps blizzard made. Play on them, and you'll understand for yourself how much better they are.

Benzene by Str18-02
A 2-player map that has 10 additional base locations, 8 of which have gas. The natural secondary base for both players is overlooked by a ridge which can be accessed right into the main base by blowing up the NPC building in the way. The far edge of the main bases can be nailed by siege tanks sitting in the base over the unbuild-able ridges to the sides. The main is on high ground and behind a ramp making it very defensible, and the natural second has a narrow path leading out to funnel attackers. Along with bridges all over the place creating a lot of choke points, Benzene has seen a lot of very long and sneaky 1VS1 games over the years.

[Anonymous No.8363015]

>>8363002
Circuit Breakers by Earthattack
A 4-player map that has 12 additional base locations, 8 of which have gas. Main bases are on high ground behind a single ramp, overlooking the natural secondary base locations, which have a single choke point connecting them to the rest of the map. Two side-by-side bridges and a wider elevated area connects each corner to the center area. Two fourth base locations bridge between third base locations, the other two are isolated between the secondary base locations. While somewhat asymmetrical, repeated use has shown the map to be almost perfectly balanced regardless of race or starting location. With the middle wide open, armies can dodge around the outer edge of the map or swarm through the middle, giving lots of strategy options. This and Fighting Spirit are the two most played maps in Tournaments and in 1vs1 and 2vs2 challenges online, as well as on the now defunct Fish server.

[Anonymous No.8363026]

Eclipse by LatiAs
A 2-player map with 9 additional base locations, all with gas. Mostly symmetrical, the varied terrain and abundance of base locations make hidden base plays common. The usual second and third bases are easily defendable, but you could easily hide a base at either corner of the map as well. A relatively recent map, quickly became a tournament favorite due to how balanced it is.

[Anonymous No.8363040]

>>8363026
Fighting Spirit by Rose.of.Dream
A 4-player map with 9 additional bases. Each player gets a secondary and third, and there's a double-sized area in the middle of the map. Each main base is on high ground behind a single ramp, and overlooks a small strip of land containing the natural secondary and path to the third. Each strip of land is connected to the center of the map by a medium width bridge. Each third base location is on high ground with a ramp connecting it to the strip of land and a ramp connecting it to the center of the map. Considered to be the most balanced map in the game for four players, where the combination of choke points and connecting paths allow quick retreats and advances to completely change the composition of a battle.

[Anonymous No.8363056]

>>8363040
Gladiator by Str18-02
A 4-player map with 13 extra base locations, 9 of which have gas. In a reversal of the usual setup for multiplayer maps, main bases are on low ground behind a ramp leading up to the high ground secondary base. This has lead to a lot of rush plays where people try to contain their opponent in their main before they can establish themselves on the high ground. The pie slice shaped ridges around the map create a lot of low ground-high ground locations for combat, making positioning even more important than usual. Thin walls near the main also invite dropship and siege tank play. And in the center is a small double-gas base for anyone who survives into the late-game.

[Anonymous No.8363068]

>>8363056
A 2-player map with 8 additional base locations, 6 of which have gas. Lots of elevation changes, ramps, and tons of paths to take are the main features of this map. Lots of hit-and-run gameplay, ambushes, sneak attacks, and other wackyness tend to be common here. Was one of the most popular 2-player maps until Eclipse came around, which is pretty much the same concept.

[Anonymous No.8363089]

>>8363068
Should have mentioned that was Match Point by Earthattack.

Neo Sylphid by LatiAs.
A 3-player map with 12 additional base locations, 9 of which have gas. Almost entirely flat except for 3 of the additional base locations, making main bases a bit more vulnerable than is normal. NPC zerg eggs sit at the entrance of each main to help provide a choke in the early game, while being clear-able so you can push your army through when you're ready. Noted as being one of the few well balanced 3 player maps, as well as the map that saw early game burrow used in a pro tournament with surprising effectiveness.

[Anonymous No.8363220]

>>8360775
What game?

[Anonymous No.8364850]

>>8360775
>>8363220
Sven Coop

also is there modding scene in Max payne 2? i don't see many mods alive in moddb to be quite honest, unless i am not looking at the right direction.

[Anonymous No.8364870]

>>8353814
Considering that DOOM is the primordial soup that spawned almost all game genres from CSGO to LoL, i think this is the objectively right answer

[Anonymous No.8365065]

>>8358245
I have similar memories from when my family first got Internet service in the 1990s. Still pissed that I deleted "Vader" and never found it again.

[Anonymous No.8365072]

>>8364870
How do you get LoL from Doom? Isn't it a clone of a Warcraft III mod, and didn't Warcraft's genre derive from Dune II in 1992?

[Anonymous No.8365085]

>>8352594
Listing FPS games seems like easy mode. Marathon series; Dark Forces series; Descent series; Duke 3D; Quake series; Outlaws; Half-Life; Thief. Outside that genre I don't know much that hasn't been mentioned, but there was Commander Keen (if you count fan games) and Escape Velocity.

I miss the days where if a game was reasonably popular, and had content meaningfully separable from gameplay, you could practically take it for granted that people would make editors and content. And when I thought I'd have time to try it all.

[Anonymous No.8365156]

>>8354029
Good answer.

[Anonymous No.8365165]

>>8352594
I dunno about plenty, but Jetpack has a fair few.

[Anonymous No.8365718]

>>8362764
That is demented. Totally tubular, dude.

[Anonymous No.8365724]

>>8365165
I LOVE THIS GAME!!!!!!!!

[Anonymous No.8365732]

>>8362764
Friggin heck, great work anon. It’s much appreciated.

[Anonymous No.8365848]

>>8365072
Yeah, gotta say that Doom's influence probably doesn't stretch far here.

[Anonymous No.8365927]

>>8365072
Dune II, Doom II, same thing

[Anonymous No.8365951]

>>8365065
Is this what you're looking for?

[Anonymous No.8366114]

>>8365724
We should be friends. It's a great game.
I used to make levels for it all the time. Those are all lost to time now though.

[Anonymous No.8367050]

>>8365951
Holy shit. How'd you find it?

[Anonymous No.8367073]

>>8367050
There are still people archiving ZZT games and making new ones. Here's the one you were looking for: a uguu se / dxoQQhHJ ZZT (add in the dots).

[Anonymous No.8367090]

>>8367073
(As a side note, if any of you have old ZZT backups from the 90s/early 00s, please share them. We could always use more sources.)

[Anonymous No.8367097]

>>8367073
(As a side note, if any of you have old ZZT or MegaZeux backups from the 90s/early 00s, please share them. We could always use more sources.)

[Anonymous No.8367476]

>>8367073
Thanks. Wish I could reciprocate. What's with the filename? Worried about D____y crawlers?

[Anonymous No.8367483]

>>8367476
It gave it to me automatically. I don't use uploaders often - the correct filename is "VADER.ZZT".

[Anonymous No.8367841]

>>8352594
Theres an archive most of the user created content for this game. The old sites all died. I hope people were on top of archiving things for other games like Neverwinter. Most of the sites I used for Starcraft and Warcraft have all died off.

[Anonymous No.8367912]

Only borderline retro, and I don't know much about single player content, but there's plenty of multiplayer maps.

[Anonymous No.8368294]

>>8362764
Nice

[Anonymous No.8368583]

>>8355521
>>8352608

I was a huge fan of Freerider 2. Similar to Linerider but you controlled the character. The one thing I wish it would have had is the ability to go through the backside of lines like in line rider. In line rider, you could make some nice looking handrails this way. In Freerider 2, you had to use the lighter decorative lines to fake the beginning of the handrail.

[Anonymous No.8368691]

>>8353814
low tier gaming, baby

[Anonymous No.8369965]

>>8367912
>Only borderline retro, and I don't know much about single player content, but there's plenty of multiplayer maps.
Where do you get the maps?

[Anonymous No.8370027]

>>8369965
Not him, but I found this site
https://www.factionfiles.com/

[Anonymous No.8370252]

>>8367912
Similarly: the Unreal series and Halo.

[Anonymous No.8372108]

>>8358227

I ended up converting most of the 500-ish preserved levels to Aerofoil's format and bundled them together with the two e-zines from the 90s (requires mini vMac, also bundled) and an old level review page. https://www.mediafire.com/file/gjup9kkb8o7995d/Aerofoil_Houses.zip/file

Unfortunately, Aerofoil (and I think Glider PRO by extension) can only handle 48 levels at once, which is why I didn't include the program itself; it's on the itch.io page.

As Aerofoil already includes the "essential" levels, there's no point in this unless you're nostalgic for 90s Mac games or you're morbidly curious about what a South Park or "Death to Barney" themed level for a paper glider video game looks like. But maybe someone will find the archive for this thread in 2032 and i'll have helped them.