/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.8347848]

Who on earth is buying old physical video games for $100+? Surely prices are approaching the critical tipping point where even the most dedicated basedboys concede to just emulate for free. Any video game up through 6th gen can be emulated at near perfect accuracy to the originals, and you can use original controllers and a CRT like I do and it's near indistinguishable. I'd like to own some of the games that were most influential to me, but shit, at these prices it just isnt worth.

[Anonymous No.8347854]

>>8347848
>Who on earth is buying old physical video games for $100+?
People whose main hobby is collecting I guess

[Anonymous No.8347861]

>>8347854
And my follow up question - how come the same phenomenon hasnt happened with CDs, cassette tapes, DVDs, and even vinyls which are cheap as shit? Why do coomlectors only care about video games?

[Anonymous No.8347867]

>>8347848
$100 is nothing. That's like half the cost of one Friday night at the bar. But for $100 you're getting hundreds of hours of entertainment with a game so it's really not that expensive.

[Anonymous No.8347872]

>>8347848
I think some collectors just start focusing their efforts more. Instead of buying 5 games a week, they reduce it to one or two comically overpriced games instead of just stopping altogether. Plus, with inflation and videogame prices historically rising, some probably justify it as an investment that will only go up in value (which, to be fair, in many cases seems to hold true)

[Anonymous No.8347881]

>>8347867
Always love hearing this cope and/or covert reseller talk.

[Anonymous No.8347883]

>>8347848
I mean I personally try to buy as low as possible, but while not retro I'm probably going to fork out $100-ish for a single Vita game. Sometimes it's nice to have physicals of an entire series.

[Anonymous No.8347896]

>>8347861
That's a good question. Probably because retro game collecting isn't a general nostalgia thing, but a thing actively promoted by gaming youtubers and facebook groups. Game collecting used to be a thing only for game otaku who loved a wide swathe of shit, like in record or DVD collecting, but I think internet game collectors have convinced people who are more modest fans of games that it's something to get in on. For many people it's a nostalgia thing, but I bet there's also an element of wanting to have all the stuff you could never afford as a kid.

I think objectively, having a really great stereo system with a huge rack of CDs is just as cool as a good game collection since my parents had one growing up. However, there's way more "hype" around having a cool game collection online so people aim that way instead. Maybe in 10 years having a huge box of VHS tapes with a CRT playing Aladdin will be the cool new thing, I dunno. Right now it's retro games

[Anonymous No.8347913]

>>8347861
No clue. Maybe because videogames were inherently somewhat nerdier to begin with, and therefore early collectors were more diehard nerds than collectors of DVDs or whatever, so they developed all the fascination with complete copies, condition, determining what was actually rare, documenting promotional/limited items, etc etc, and then normalfagsatched on to this ready-made collector culture once YouTube and "your old game could be worth thousands" articles pushed the hobby into the mainstream?

Also, VHS collecting does seem to be becoming a thing now. I even see videogame clout collectors on instagram transitioning to posting photos of their shitty sealed VHS tapes.

[Anonymous No.8347918]

>>8347913
tl;dr game collecting had a ready-made culture and mystique cultivated over decades by the devoted nerds who started it, which was easy for normalfags to try to simply buy into (you aren't just buying a game, but a piece of a subculture)

[Anonymous No.8347920]

>>8347913
That's hilarious. They'll spend hundreds on tapes they can't even watch. I reckon VCRs haven't been made in over 15 years and the repair shops are few and far between.

[Anonymous No.8347928]

>>8347848
People were buying $100 games in the 90s bro. Why would someone pay for a rare game as much?

[Anonymous No.8347935]

>>8347861
So how come it hasn't happened with Madden games?
It's because not all games are interesting, faggot.
I have some rare CDs that go for over $100 on discogs. There are hundreds of thousands of different CDs out there, but only a few hundred games per system, so you get coomlectors who see the possibility of "catching them all".
What's worse is zoomers coomlecting tapes and vinyls when they either don't have a player, or only have a cheap one that will fuck their shit up. They literally don't make any new cassette players anymore except one crap design.

[Anonymous No.8347939]

>>8347848
1. Older games are no longer in production
2. There's heavy interest in collecting older games
3. Mysterious individuals of Semitic origin inflating the prices of older games

[Anonymous No.8347940]

>>8347861
>>8347913
I assume two big factors here are at play: (1) the amount of rereleases something gets, and (2) the fact official rereleases are usually so shitty. If you want to play the actual version of Ocarina of Time for instance, you need to play or emulate the N64 version since the others are different in some ways, and so to own the original Ocarina of Time, you have to buy the N64 cartridge that was only produced back in the 90s. Meanwhile in the world of music for instance, any semi-popular release gets new pressings quite easily, so you have some new release of Dark Side of the Moon coming out every year, and it's either unchanged from the original release or it's a remaster that's an improvement on the original as opposed to the remasters we get in games. The original UK pressing of Dark Side of the Moon goes for a few hundred bucks on average, but considering this is a 50 year old album that's impressive, if this were games it would be way more expensive I bet.

[Anonymous No.8347942]

>>8347861
>vinyls
>cheap
I've been collecting vinyls for 15 years, they are not cheap

[Anonymous No.8347945]

>>8347848
>Any video game up through 6th gen can be emulated at near perfect accuracy to the originals
This just isn’t true but I do play plenty of games that can be

I have never spent more than $100 on a retro game but I’ve made bids that high and probably will at some point buy some of my holy grails. For example, Steel Battalion is meant to be played with the Steel Battalion controller. You might be able to emulate it but you are not getting the whole experience. I’m very seriously considering getting myself a Mega-Jockey-9000.

And along all the usual arguments we discuss every single day here, the physical technology is part of why I find old console games cool. It’s not just the data contained in the cart or disc that I want. The system, game, and controller coming together to make the experience is a big part of the draw for me

[Anonymous No.8347947]

>>8347861
There are plenty of DVDs and vinyls that go for hundreds. Even some VHS tapes. None of that is hyped as much as games but there are very real collector’s markets for those things

[Anonymous No.8347951]

>>8347848
Me. I'm a cuck that just bought a gba for $200.
Absolutely obsessed with the console.

[Anonymous No.8347952]

>>8347861
DVDs and vinyl in particular can get into very expensive territory depending on original prints, rarity, condition, etc. It is a similar strain of autism, hence why some anime DVDs are worth obscene amounts of money just like some weird PS2 JRPGs are. Usually movie adaptations of games are about as worthwhile as the movie itself on DVD (i.e. Pixar games) with a few notable exceptions like Goldeneye and the 2nd Jurassic Park game on Sega Genesis.

[Anonymous No.8347957]

>>8347951
Would you like to buy anymore? I got like 5 thrown in my closet. I did know the market was this retarded yet

[Anonymous No.8347959]

>>8347947
I think what he's getting at is you don't see the prices of DVD, vinyl, or VHS rising across the board. Probably why it's happening in games is what >>8347935 said, way more people in games want to own libraries of shit as opposed to only buying what they like

[Anonymous No.8347962]

>>8347957
I do plan on getting more - I'm just waiting to find better deals. The market is pretty fucking retarded but I am counting in canadabux. A scratched up ags 001 is like $100 most places I look.

[Anonymous No.8347965]

>>8347861
Are you fucking nuts? You have any idea how much demo tapes and certain vinyls are going for these days? You think $100 for a video is bad, i got terrible news for you.

[Anonymous No.8347971]

>>8347940
Sometimes the re-release of an album is worse in some way, like canceling a line in a song, or more compression in the mastering, then people who know what's going on will try to find the older pressings. That's what the Discogs database is about, documenting every different release that can be found, and finding when important shit changes.
>>8347952
I have a couple of out-of-print Criterion DVDs that easily go for 100-200 bucks or more. Most stuff gets reprinted until initial demand stops, but some things are cult films with long, slow demand, and publishing licensing can expire early and force things out of print.
There are also some anime series where the last few DVDs were printed in less quantity, and it's worse when there were more than six to begin with.

[Anonymous No.8347980]

>>8347971
>Sometimes the re-release of an album is worse in some way, like canceling a line in a song, or more compression in the mastering, then people who know what's going on will try to find the older pressings
Do you have any examples you know? I know that Animal Collective changed the name of their album Here Comes The Indian to Ark on Spotify recently for instance because it could be potentially offensive to people or whatever

[Anonymous No.8347981]

>>8347848
>through 6th gen
gamecube is decent with dolphin, ps2 and xbox are only really 'playable' definitely not perfect, and you need a pretty beefy machine to manage just that.

[Anonymous No.8347986]

>>8347867
Let's be honest here. If a coomlector puts more than a few hours on a purchase its a rarity

[Anonymous No.8347989]

>>8347861
Rare vinyl and tapes are horribly fucking expensive.
t. hipster

[Anonymous No.8348009]

>>8347980
Have you ever heard of the loudness wars?
The record companies were famous for using compression (EQ compression, not MP3) in the 80s and 90s once they realized they could pull shit that would literally cause a needle to skip on a vinyl record.
And all the new repress of vinyl is being made without the experience of the workers from back in the day, nor with the finely tuned machines they had back then either.

[Anonymous No.8348015]

>>8348009
I did but I'm not that well acquainted with it. Does compressing them that hard degrade the quality of the music as a whole? I know compression is a universal tool in modern production so I'm mainly curious at what point it crosses the line. I guess the issue is just slathering it all over the master track right?

[Anonymous No.8348018]

>>8348015
You could look it up instead of asking to be spoon-fed.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dynamic_range_compression

[Anonymous No.8348020]

>>8348018
I thought we were having a discussion. Do you have autism?

[Anonymous No.8348029]

>>8348020
You were asking about basic facts that you admitted to not knowing about. Do YOU have autism?

[Anonymous No.8348031]

>>8348018
NTA but
>giving enough of a shit to spend your Saturday researching something you don't care about
I got better things to do, like look up slime girl hentai. Ain't got time for sound wave physics.

[Anonymous No.8348039]

>>8348029
Everyone on /vr/ has autism.
However, you have double autism.

[Anonymous No.8348102]

>>8347848
OP.
Back in 2002 I had to buy Valkyrie Profile and Rhapsody for around $140. They were still expensive and rare then. I think I bought my Langrisser IV and Growlanser IV for $100 also, but that was in 2004 I think.

The difference is that it's not rare stuff now that is expensive, it's everything because jews and chinks buy lots and sit on them while fat millenials want their childhood back.

[Anonymous No.8348113]

>>8348020
While a lot of people come to boards like this as a social experience, that guy is probably one of the types who just comes here to trawl for "hidden gems" other people tell him are good and don't understand why people would actually want to talk to each other

[Anonymous No.8348127]

>>8348031
>like look up slime girl hentai
Incredibly based

[Anonymous No.8348145]

>>8348102
It's the worst for the oldfags, because there's still the memory of uniformly cheap prices. Looking back, I should've just bought everything. Overpriced, shitty condition, whatever - almost everything (at least in the realm of games I collect) which I remember thinking was overpriced or too common to stockpile would now be a fucking bargain. Famicom Disk System Zelda's used to be cheap, like $30-$50, and now I see one sold for $2,500 in the past month. I should've spent every spare penny I had on those cheap, common things instead of just the one, because apparently there's now a market that thinks it's worth a couple grand. Zoomer preservationists would shit their pants if they knew you could buy GameBoy prototype carts for like $30 at open auction, even less than 10 years ago.

[Anonymous No.8348151]

>>8348145
*Sealed Famicom Disk System Zeldas

[Anonymous No.8348164]

>>8348102
I think the most I’ve ever spent on a single game is $90 on a copy of compile gallery 123 (I guess it’s less a game and more a clip art CD for puyo puyo and Madou Monogatari games but whatever) and while I cringe at that- it’s understandable in that there’s so few copies of it. You could only order it with a mail in slip from a magazine. So naturally copies go for hundreds seeing as there’s probably only a few hundred out there

But when I see fucking Pokémon of all things- games that sell in liters dozens of millions going for hundreds, I can’t help but roll my eyes at the stupidity

[Anonymous No.8348176]

>>8348164
I have to imagine that a lot of the people spending hundreds on old Pokemon games skew younger, and think there's some inherent rarity created by the fact that the game came out before they were born. Because as you said, when it comes to common retro games, Pokemon, any Pokemon, is going to be right there on the list. Everybody had copies, wouldn't be surprised if there's still boxes of unopened copies in warehouses somewhere, not to mention many thousands of loose carts sitting in drawers around the world, just one spring cleaning away from a LOOK RARE VINTAGE POKEMON GAME!!! listing.

[Anonymous No.8348179]

>>8347867
> half the cost of one Friday night at the bar
Have you ever been outside? Or is it that bad on the other side of the ocean?

[Anonymous No.8348185]

>>8348164
The demand for Pokemon is just insanely huge. You've got to remember it's the world's #1 most profitable IP. More than Star Wars, Marvel, or anything else.

You're right that a lot of people buying the games are also new to collecting and just pay the first price they see though. But I don't think the prices are completely artificial.

[Anonymous No.8348195]

>>8348127
What game?

[Anonymous No.8348219]

>>8348195
Antiquia Lost

[Anonymous No.8348228]

>>8348219
Thanks. It reminds me of early PS1 RPGs, like Tales of Eternia. Hopefully it goes on sale next week, I might try it.

[Anonymous No.8348237]

>>8347848

Emulators are fine but it doesn't compare to the original "feel" of putting a physical game in and enjoying them on the shelf... Sure I emulate too, but I still love and collect for the classic original systems

[Anonymous No.8348242]

>>8347848
>up through 6th gen
lmao no it's total shit, and even 5th gen can be an issue (although I haven't checked the state of N64 emulation in a while)
but to be fair you can still mod 6th gen consoles (or use a Wii for GC)

[Anonymous No.8348243]

>>8348237

Also too bad nes and snes had really shitty game boxes... The game came in them with a cardboard insert so the box was so bulky yet flimsy most and myself threw them out as kids... Sega was smart for using plastic cases, Nintendo should have done the same since blockbuster basically had all those plastic cases for rentals anyway

[Anonymous No.8348249]

>>8348185

Mainstream sheep are going to seethe and flip out..but I absolutely hate pokemon, I hate game boy (game gear was superior in everyway, all they did was bitch about it using batteries... But what is a power pack?) And I fucking extremely HATE n64... Overrated trash, and I love nes and snes.

[Anonymous No.8348253]

>>8347861
>how come the same phenomenon hasnt happened with CDs, cassette tapes, DVDs, and even vinyls which are cheap as shit?
Video games are different because each console has a finite set of officially licensed games. Collectors buy hundreds of crappy games just so they can complete their collection. It's like wanting to own a complete ROM set physically.

[Anonymous No.8348259]

>>8348249
Okay cool why did you think I'd give a fuck

[Anonymous No.8348261]

>>8348259

Found the Pokemon fan

[Anonymous No.8348273]

>>8348164
Never owned a Pokemon game till Ruby (didn't get a handheld till 2001), but I remember them costing at most 10 dollars way back in 2010. A year ago, I saw a set for like 30 each with a new battery and the sticker not being too banged up, and thought eh, I'm overpaying but okay, that was the extent of the covid prices. I check back to the same hobby store now? 70 dollars each. What the fuck? I won't even get to Crystal, because those prices make me upset.
Thank fuck for flashcarts, but I do feel like that market is gonna collapse any minute now, once the rich blood moves out to something else.

[Anonymous No.8348281]

>>8348261
Not that anon, but I hope you're being cheeky. That felt like obvious bait, and that anon still gave you a genuine answer. Even if I was trolling around, I would feel a bit guilty if I did the same

[Anonymous No.8348318]

>>8348281

And why do they think I give a fuck what they have to say either? My opinion was genuine... NPCs are retarded.

[Anonymous No.8348320]

>old physical video games
>investment that will only go up in value
But what about CD/dvd rot?

[Anonymous No.8348323]

>>8348261
No I mean why did you reply to me with your weird autist manifesto?

[Anonymous No.8348324]

>>8348320
Fake as shit. I have CDs from '85 that play fine.

[Anonymous No.8348328]

>>8348323

What other garbage do you spew? My opinion still had content. You're A "more normal than thou" sheep... Good for you, I'll be the "autist" then.

[Anonymous No.8348332]

>>8348320

Lol... They don't "rot" unless you're storing them in a damp basement floor with no cases or protection

[Anonymous No.8348336]

>>8348328
Don't worry we already noticed

[Anonymous No.8348340]

>>8348336

[Anonymous No.8348342]

>>8348340
Meds

[Anonymous No.8348346]

>>8348342

You take toxic poison "meds"... overdose on them, or kill yourself any other way regardless.

[Anonymous No.8348357]

That garbage aside, my apologies thread... There are still cd, vhs, vinyl, even cassette player collectors too...

[Anonymous No.8348712]

>>8347848
>Who on earth is buying old physical video games for $100+?
Are you saying you want the personal details of the buyers who bought those ~2M old physical video games for $100+ on eBay this year?
>cope
Seethe harder poorfag.

[Anonymous No.8348735]

>>8348712

[Anonymous No.8348754]

A copy of Snatcher on the sega cd now costs $1,500 I remember it was like $300-$400 not even ten years ago

[Anonymous No.8348762]

>>8347861

literally no reason only but consooooooming..
games are far better emulated on PC in every possible sense, minus the few systems which dont have decent emulators such as the phillips CDi and shit like that.
im a fan of proper CRT gaming like anyone else here, which is the only proper display for 240p systems.
but even PC does this better with special radeon drivers called "crt emudriver".
you can use this to output VGA to RGB and csync directly into a proper crt television which has been RGB modded.
this shit is GODLY above any faggot shit original game system, and its even more godlier when everything is thrown together in a single app such as on retroarch or launchbox.
this absolutely blows the original systems the fuck out beyond jesus.
people who collect psychical media are absolute retards who dont know how to set up emudriver on a proper RGB crt

pic not really related

[Anonymous No.8348768]

>>8348754

Because Retards didn't take care of their shit and tossed the older games aside to keep up with trends... The ones that took care of their shit appreciated the value,so good condition older games are becoming more rare.

[Anonymous No.8348836]

>>8347861
I'm one of those video coomlectors...answer is that I like video games and don't like DVDs, movies or cd music

[Anonymous No.8349049]

>>8348762
Retard

[Anonymous No.8349083]

>tfw spent my teenage years from 2001 to 2008 buying up old games from friends
>boxes of NES, SNES, Genesis, Turbografx 16, Gameboy and Game Gear
>getting stacks of like 20-30 games plus consoles for like 50 bucks
>friends were so willing to get rid of the old stuff just for the price of a single new Xbox/PS2/Gamecube game
Even during those days the only new games I was playing were on GBA, I've just always liked 2D game design sensibilities more and have gravitated towards earlier stuff. In the long run I've just ended up with the games that I ultimately wanted so it feels bretty gud right about now. Also back in those years there was more than one occasion where friends or family would just give me a box of stuff for free that they didn't want anymore.

[Anonymous No.8349105]

>>8347861
The market is fake and the prices are controlled. A dozen or so people that control the market will buy up as many copies as possible, have their rarity rating sites mark the copies as ultra-rare and worth hundreds or even thousands of dollars, and then everyone will either hoard their dime a dozen shit console games because they think they're now worth more than gold or try selling them even higher than the bullshit inflated price they propped up.

[Anonymous No.8349179]

>>8348735

[Anonymous No.8349206]

>>8347861
The replies to this post are staggeringly retarded. I can tell none of you have any experience buying things outside of video games. There are shit tons of absurdly expensive CDs, cassettes, vinyl, and even DVDs.

[Anonymous No.8349491]

>>8347861
Vinyl ain't cheap at all. I still can't get a fucking Danzig album that doesn't cost over $150 dollars.

[Anonymous No.8349668]

>>8349083
I was doing the same exact thing around that time, but cant say I was getting as good of deals as you were. I also had a DS before anyone and would let people on my bus ride home play it in exchange for them bringing me their old games.

>>8348762
Nope, sorry, not the intended experience by the devs so its fake trash. Go home, faggot.

[Anonymous No.8349764]

>>8347848
I've paid over $100 for a couple of games but the majority of the games I buy are under $20 and many of them are even under $10. The most I've paid is around $350 and I don't think I can go any higher than that.

[Anonymous No.8349846]

>>8349083
This is garbage box...where's all the silent hills, digimons and pokemon gameboy games

[Anonymous No.8349872]

>>8349846
t. Facebook group game collector

[Anonymous No.8349979]

>>8347861
>how come the same phenomenon hasnt happened with CDs, cassette tapes, DVDs, and even vinyls which are cheap as shit?
You naive ignorant fool

[Anonymous No.8350285]

I jnow this is not really vidys but are VHS collecting worth getting into? What does the VHS collecting market look like? How are the prices?

[Anonymous No.8350297]

>>8350285
Don’t do it. Magnetic media has an expiration date. It’s like disc rot but real

[Anonymous No.8350579]

>>8349049

nope

you are the fucking retard
you're also a faggot too.
your ps2 collection is worthless asian-nigger trash compared to crt emudriver and pcsx2

[Anonymous No.8350689]

>>8350579
Emulate this, bitch

[Anonymous No.8350702]

>>8347848
i dont know,and thurth is if you dont live in a big city,finding someone willing to buy expansive retro isnt as easy as it sounds if you do it locally and not on ebay.
im currently trying to sell 2 pokemon games as a bundle asking the price for just one these games for both of them and even tho people look at the listing nobody wants to buy it it seems or they are just too far away to bother making the trip,cant imagine what it would be like if i was selling games that arent as well known but these are the games i dont see myself replaying or id just be fine emulating them.

[Anonymous No.8350704]

>>8347848
consooming s]oyfags do that to put it in their collection and never touch it again.
I have the few i constantly replay and the ones i don't have yet i just fucking pirate because at the end of the day i want to fucking play and not be a piggy bank for retail trash

[Anonymous No.8350709]

>>8350704
>can’t even bypass the filter right
Yikes

[Anonymous No.8350756]

>>8350709
i found one of them. That's the nigga who clusters his "men cave" with useless plastic

[Anonymous No.8350773]

>>8347867
You’re either a dumb kid who knows nothing or an alcoholic making several bad life choices

[Anonymous No.8350852]

janny banny's deleted the post so i'll say it in a more civil way without offending someone:
I don't think this extreme consumerism and collection mindset is healthy or should be pursued. Most of the things you buy on impulse or for the "just so i can have it here ready" mindset end up collecting dust in your room and do nothing else. Buy what you need and don't collect for the collection sake. The market will be more bearable, the second-hand market won't be expensive af and companies won't shit out garbage to maximize their income.
Be more mindful with your consume behavior, think twice if you really need what you're going to buy. Think twice if you ever want to play that game more than once when you buy it.

[Anonymous No.8350878]

>>8347848
Same people who buy NFTs.

[Anonymous No.8350882]

>>8350878
Exactly the opposite. NFT people 100% buy digital games and think they own them.

[Anonymous No.8350889]

>>8350882
You don't own physical games. Publishers do. Your use of the product is restricted by what the owner allows also. Like how internet cafés can't just buy one copy of a game to use on their 200 computers, or how you're not allowed to air the dvd you buy outside of family use

[Anonymous No.8351061]

>>8350773
Anon, alcohol is what fixes bad life choices

[Anonymous No.8351065]

>>8350889
I can use it as long as I like, sell it, trade it, lend it, modify it. I own it, buddy.
This is a perfect example of the NFTfag mindset: they think ownership is about a data registry somewhere that says what belongs to who and not about who actually has control of something.

[Anonymous No.8351070]

>>8350882
Don't be retarded anon, talk about things you understand.

[Anonymous No.8351075]

>>8351070
Oh I am.

[Anonymous No.8351095]

>>8347962
I got mine new at Zellers for $20 lol

[Anonymous No.8351275]

Retro gamers are too fucking autistic to discuss game prices with unfortunately. There's so many legitimate reasons why games cost a lot but they just don't wanna hear it.

The online retro gamers are not the primary market for retro gaming stores and never was.

[Anonymous No.8351341]

>>8347848
I'm not making a perfect 1000 hours game file on a shitty non functioning rom with no soulful box

[Anonymous No.8351348]

>>8347848
Because they are autistic and since they are they found out about bitcoin in 2017 or earlier and most are wealthy now so they don't care about spending $100 instead of $50.

[Anonymous No.8351350]

>>8351275
We discuss this shit literally all the time

[Anonymous No.8351419]

>>8347848
$60 in 1992 is $120 now

[Anonymous No.8351429]

>>8348754
It was $450 in 2018 because that's when I bought it

[Anonymous No.8351440]

>>8351419
you mean $60 in 2000

[Anonymous No.8351529]

>>8351440

[Anonymous No.8352314]

>>8347881
The cope is coming from you?
Supply and demand determines price.
Just as you want the games (and are coping because you're broke) others do too.

[Anonymous No.8352337]

>>8347920
I have a vcr

[Anonymous No.8352373]

>>8347848
I just sold 10 gamecube games for a 1000 euros. I love collectors

[Anonymous No.8352991]

>>8349049

nope.
you are the fucking retard, not me

crt emudriver running through RBG is so good its not even funny.
many systems cannot even output RGB, and if they do, you are stuck with that single system attached to your tv, unless you have a multi VGA/RGB adapter which does not even exist.
a pc running emu driver has all the systems in one, including arcade, which alone is worth it.
the original games systems are so useless and outdated its really amazing how some people believe they are important.
but please continue paying more than 10$ for a shiny plastic disc which originally cost literally pennies to produce and can be objectively considered to be worthless garbage belonging in the trash

[Anonymous No.8353059]

>>8352991
>you are the fucking retard, not me
>proceeds to demonstrate god tier levels of retardation
Damn. You should quit while you're behind. I'm not even the guy you're coping to but was complelled to reply by the sheer ignorance of your post.

[Anonymous No.8353131]

>>8353059

so how exactly is my post retarded?
please demonstrate how an original game system such as the ps1, ps2, nintendo 64, gamecube, super nintendo, or anything else is somehow better on original hardware compared to emudriver

[Anonymous No.8353183]

>>8352314
No, the whole "heh $100 isn't a lot of money, so go blow that on some common game" argument.

[Anonymous No.8353284]

>>8353131
>so how exactly is my post retarded?
It was made by a tard who said retarded things
>now you must debate said tard
Nope. I'll laugh at your retarded ass and watch you sperg out

[Anonymous No.8353608]

>>8353284

but how can i be retarded when you are the fucking retard though?

[Anonymous No.8353676]

>>8352991
Retard

[Anonymous No.8353689]

>>8348320
the increase is so miniscule for 95%+ of games on the market that investing heavily is pointless. you would make more money putting that into stocks or some other investment

[Anonymous No.8354545]

>>8353608
>no u
>how was retard

[Anonymous No.8355284]

>>8353689
>Quadruples in price on average in your path
Gotta get in and out at the right time of course

[Anonymous No.8355330]

>>8355284

[Anonymous No.8355358]

>>8347848
money launderers

[Anonymous No.8355360]

>>8355330
4th gen is probably petering out, friend, don’t buy in now you’re too late. There’s a limit to what people will spend on these things

[Anonymous No.8355368]

>>8347848
I bought a couple of games at $70 a piece and that's the highest I've gone so far. I did throw down $150 on two games recently, but I did so with the intent of flipping one. The game in question typically goes for $90

[Anonymous No.8355371]

>>8351061
Yep, definitely a teenager.

[Anonymous No.8355372]

>>8347867
Who the fuck willingly spends more than $100 on a night out? You have either never been out or you are stinkingly rich

[Anonymous No.8355412]

>>8348328
I'm getting really confused who is who in this pointless arguement

[Anonymous No.8355437]

>>8352991
No u. One of your arguments is that you can only plug one system in at a time, are you really that much of a lazy fat fuck that you can't get off your chair to swap consoles over? Or even have a TV which has multiple inputs? And you had to rgb mod your TV for your shit to work so yeah you sound pretty retarded

[Anonymous No.8355557]

>>8355284
Anon, a 2.5x increase over 10 years on a good that has a limit (which let's be honest, all vidya does) is not a good investment. There's no money to be made with prices like this - you could (i suppose) buy some higher priced games in the $400 region and sit on it for a few years hoping it continues to go up, but there's still much more safe and easier ways to invest money.

Different strokes for different folks I suppose, just seems like a pointless endeavor

[Anonymous No.8355576]

>>8355372
$100 is really nothing at all, have you ever been out with a friend or two? What an insane projection. Begging you to literally google the words 'average cost of night out at bar/club' and get a fucking clue

[Anonymous No.8355595]

>>8355576
>>8355576
Why yes I have been out with 1 or 2 or more friends and no matter how drunk I have gotten I have never been stupid enough to spend that much... I got bored of drinking in my 20s so I could be a little out of touch but having googled it the average price is actually $80. You may think I'm projecting but oh well, I'm over it

[Anonymous No.8355698]

>>8347848
People who are retarded with money, old enough to have a decent job with disposable income, but not yet old enough to have real responsibilities they need to prioritize. ie the platonic form of consoomer.

In general I don't think these types are the hardcore collectorfags. They're the people having a bit of nostalgia for whatever they played as a kid, and decide to just hop on ebay and buy the first BIN they see, even if it means 100 dollarydoos for mario or zelda or pokemon. They're not even thinking about the money or the fact that people like them have driven up prices 5-10x in the past few years. They treat it the same way people carelessly splurge at tourist traps while on vacation

[Anonymous No.8355716]

>>8347861
I think its a bit different with movies/music because consumer media of these things will ALWAYS be a simulacrum of the original master recording. Like if I buy a DVD movie, its not like that's the "original version", because it's still just a lower quality 480p copy of the original film reel. The only real caveat there would be when the studio botches later releases so that earlier versions are arguably superior, most notably how the Star Wars laserdiscs are coveted because they're the best-quality way to watch the unfucked versions of those movies without the special edition bullshit

[Anonymous No.8355791]

>>8355372
Anyone who's gone out in any major city any where in the industrialized world. Are you an underage amish or something?

[Anonymous No.8355793]

>>8355360
People have been saying that for 10 years m8

[Anonymous No.8355801]

>>8347848
>at near perfect accuracy to the originals
Lmao noob

[Anonymous No.8355807]

>>8355791
Not him but my family is ex-Amish. The Amish are loaded, dude. Part of that is because they all run family businesses and rarely splurge.

[Anonymous No.8355814]

>>8348018
>spoon-fed
Spoon faggot you suck, GTFO

[Anonymous No.8355874]

>>8355595
$80 won't even get you a meal at McDonald's in New York City, let alone fund a trip to the bar.

[Anonymous No.8355880]

>>8355874
I'll never understand people who live in those places. You don't even have to put up with that, why are you there? Move, bro.

[Anonymous No.8355903]

>>8355880
I don't but I know someone who lives there, he tells me it's like $20 for a soda at some of those restaurants. He has to be there because he works for a big NYC tourist spot. If not for that I don't know why people live there just to work at Walgreens, or even know how it's possible to afford that lifestyle working at such a place.

[Anonymous No.8355914]

>>8347935
I think vinyls are a bit different because more people buying them will mean that more people will also release shit on them. Cassettes can burn in hell imo.

[Anonymous No.8355929]

>>8350285
Honestly, yes. They're still as cheap as retro games used to be. You can still buy them brand new for under $10, usually even cheaper than that. I've got tons of tapes in great quality I picked up for $2-3 a piece. Even if you do pick up tapes that are slightly degraded, the occasional flicker is one of those things that people unironically find charming.

[Anonymous No.8355958]

>>8355557
It’s more like x4, 5 to 20 and 3 to 12 if you look at the actual chart

Mind you I’m not foolish enough to think it’s a straight line up from here, and to be frank I’m not the kind of guy who buys with a plan to sell. I might someday if it’ll put my kid through college or something but mostly it’s a hobby for me.

That all aside, you have to remember that this is *across the board*. Everything went up in this period, and these are average numbers that include dogshit sports games that have no value to speak of weighing the average down. Nearly every retro game purchased in the last ten years has gone up in price significantly. Will it burst someday? Yeah eventually. Shit I actually hope so, I’d like the cost of certain games to return to reason. But anything you bought in 2009 or so is worth several times what it was when you bought it. ANYTHING. That sounds like a solid use of that money to me. Can you find me another class of investment that has been climbing that steadily for that long?

There’s not enough out there you can buy on bulk to take you from rags to riches, but on the money you -do- spend it has paid off incredibly well

[Anonymous No.8355997]

>>8355874
Fuck going to New York then! To be fair it would be too busy for me anyways, plus I like the smell of fresh air and not exhaust fumes. You can have your riches and then spend them on one burger

[Anonymous No.8356002]

>>8355903
Man that just isn’t true. Things are more expensive but $20 for a soda is wildin
Source: my sister lives in Manhattan

Her rent is legitimately more than twice mine for half the space though

[Anonymous No.8356007]

>>8355791
Sounds like you haven't been to many then. I unfortunately go to London for work and even there the prices aren't that ridiculous

[Anonymous No.8356039]

>>8356002
I can guarantee you there is at least one restaurant in NYC that serves a $20 soda.

[Anonymous No.8356051]

>>8356039
I bet that is true to most cities, there is always one place that is pretentious enough to overcharge for stuff

[Anonymous No.8356068]

>>8356039
Sure but you can do the same here in bumfuck if you go to the country club

[Anonymous No.8356139]

>>8348145
I know what you mean 8 years ago I used to balk at these games going for more than 10 bucks a pop, now many of them are hitting 80-100

[Anonymous No.8356146]

>>8355958
This needs perspective though. All those games have shot up over the past 1-2 years for the same reason as pokemon cards, real estate, stocks, crypto, commodities, you name it. Meme virus lockdowns, money printing, inflation you get the picture. Everything is going up because everyone is ditching dollars whether they realize it or not

[Anonymous No.8356186]

>>8356007
Sounds like you're retarded because you seem to think grabbing a sandwich and juice from pret for lunch is "a night out". No one's denying that poorfags exist, poorfag. But when a gainfully employed adult goes out for a decent meal and drinks in London he can easily spend $100. I've done it many times. I've spent that almost that much just on a steak in London and a lot more in other cities.
Who would have thought that faggots who cry about the price of toys on ebay have never had a decent night out in their life.

[Anonymous No.8356201]

>>8356146
Markets go up and down for all kinds of reasons, and they had already accumulated a huge chunk of that before 2020. 2020 to today went from like $18 to $20 (and had a much bigger effect on the average than the mean—the mean still quadrupled in the past 10 years). Last year’s jump is real but it’s not the bulk of the increase

[Anonymous No.8356335]

>>8356186
Can you remind me when ever I spoke about pret and lunch? Maybe you should question your intelligence, especially if you both make shit up and "go" to places in London that cost you 100 for a steak alone... Isn't it strange how we both find each other retarded, you think I'm retarded because I don't spank my money away on alcohol and dead cow, whereas I find you retarded because you are willing to spend $100 on a steak and $100 just on alcohol...

Back to the subject the most I paid for a game was about 60 dollars. I am patient, lucky and not desperate so for example I paid 5 dollars for tronn bonne about 10 years ago and I bet it works exactly the same as your 200 dollar copy

[Anonymous No.8356401]

Every time I buy food I cry and think about the gameboy games I could have bought with that money

[Anonymous No.8356492]

>>8356401
Kek, thanks for lightening the mood with your sadness anon

[Anonymous No.8357152]

as far back as 2005 or 2006 I remember people complaining that old games were too expensive now and they used to be cheaper and it didn't make any sense to start collecting. Obviously there has to be a logical breaking point for all of this but we haven't hit it yet.

[Anonymous No.8357165]

>>8349491
>look up legendary swedish metal ep
>$300
I suffer

[Anonymous No.8357229]

>>8356335
steak is tasty though
I just spent $60 on a steak dinner, it was good

[Anonymous No.8357961]

>>8356335
>Can you remind me when ever I spoke about pret and lunch?
You take the train in to town in the morning and out in the evening. You get 30 minutes away from your cubicle to grab a sandwich. Simple as.
It pleases me to know that a light weight vegan finds me retarded. Now tell me how I'm retarded because I don't suck cock.

>>8357229
NOOO!!!! What were you thinking! You could have had a convenience store prepared salad for a fraction of that.

[Anonymous No.8358959]

Spending $60+ on food is wasteful. For that one meal you could have had 10 other meals, or afforded to feed 10 orphans, or one orphan for 10 days. I know no one in here would do that (I wouldn't either), but the thought of it makes me not want to spend that much on food for just myself. Guilt I guess.

[Anonymous No.8359298]

>>8357961
You have the wrong person then, I can't fit a video wall, projectors, lights and PA on a train. Anyways I'm sure the rest of the anons are bored of our petty sqwabble so think what you want but I still think you are a massive retard for lying about how much money you spend on booze and food

[Anonymous No.8359401]

>>8359298
Pretty sure I'm not the only one who finds it entertaining to watch a poorfag cope and rant about how no one has ever spent $100 on a night out. If you can't afford to do it, or don't want to do that because muh starving pickinninies or whatever that's one thing. But when you're so out of touch with reality that you deny that fact that millions of people do this every day it becomes an entertining clown show.

[Anonymous No.8359410]

>>8359401
It's more entertaining to watch an idiot squandering his paycheck on non-necessities calling others poor fans and then pretending that everybody is as bad at money as they are.

[Anonymous No.8359425]

>>8356186
>muh $100 dinners
>faggots crying about spending money on toys on ebay
Imagine being so insecure that you brag about eating dinner and then not so subtly try to shit on the hobby you supposedly enjoy enough to discuss online with strangers. Nobody cares about your eating out in London. What's next, are you going to start talking about your massive cock?

[Anonymous No.8359719]

>>8359401
It's always entertaining to watch idiots online not read posts properly as nowhere did that anon claim that spending $100 on a night out is unrealistic and never happens, all they said was it was ridiculous and something they personally don't do. Plus it is entertaining knowing that you think you are rich because you love to waste your money on unnecessary shit and then call others poor because they have half a brain to know how to not waste money

[Anonymous No.8360298]

>>8359410
>>8359425
>>8359719
>all that cope and seething
Now that's entertainment

[Anonymous No.8361447]

>>8360298
Yawn

[Anonymous No.8363116]

Video game collecting is materialistic and a perversion of the hobby. It's about the content of the game, not whether it comes in a shiny box or not. All that plastic shit will be disposed of when you die.

[Anonymous No.8363286]

>>8363116
This, but also applicable to most other things. People should be trying to eliminate possessions and reduce waste, not accumulate it. You'll feel mentally healthier doing this.

[Anonymous No.8364825]

I USED to collect back in 2010s and earlier. Just mostly buying stuff that I heard were hidden gems or I thought was cool. It was feasible back then to drop $20 for an obscure jrpg and just play it. Nowadays these fuckers cost $100 each minimum. If I didn't own many of these titles already I would just emulate them all.

Save yourself the money and just play these games on an emulator, the 'authenticity' does feel cool, but it is not worth spending the obscene asking prices you get today.

[Anonymous No.8364996]

>>8364825
I’ve been buying tons of /vr/ titles the past few weeks between $5-$15. If you wanna emulate go for it, but you don’t have to make retarded claims to do it. There are games other than the big high dollar ones

[Anonymous No.8365008]

The price of modern retro vidya is absurd but we're also very lucky that hardware remains pretty affordable and that there's a great proliferation of ODE's, flashcarts, modchips and softmodding options available for those who want to play on real consoles. Combine that with good modern emulators, and the average retro gaming fan is living in the best period yet to actually just play whatever he wants.

Yes, the price of games sucks and has never been higher. But in terms of sheer access to playing old games, there's never been a better time than now. It does worry me that CRT's are becoming expensive in some cities though.

[Anonymous No.8365204]

>>8347848
Good point. If I was looking to add to my collection, which I acquired in the 90's, I wouldn't be buying Super Mario Brothers for 50$ (cart only). I didn't realize I was in the golden years when CiB NES games (common ones) were going for 15$ CANADIAN on eBay with free shipping. I remember thinking it was too expensive to pay 20$ for a CiB Mario 3 and Metroid. 140$ for Earthbound? Fuck no, that's insane. I don't care if the scratch and sniff is still intact. I'm just glad I got a CiB version of Secret of Mana and Lufia 2 for 100$ each. Thats like 75$ US btw.

also L00K R@RE

[Anonymous No.8367001]

>>8364996
His claims are perfectly reasonable and yes you are correct, you can get lucky and grab a bargain nowadays. I just picked up a saturn racing wheel for a tenner and haunting ground for 15 this week for example

[Anonymous No.8367262]

>>8348145
I should have bought lunar 2 for sega cd back when it was under 100, now can't find it for under 300, I never bought anything for over 60 back then

[Anonymous No.8367276]

>>8348324
Not fake as shit, I've seen LDs properly stored and cared for get rot, it depends on the manufacturing process on how predisposed to to rot a disc is.

[Anonymous No.8367308]

>>8348762
Retarded faggot

[Anonymous No.8367398]

>>8347861
For one thing, it absolutely has happened with some Vinyls. Hell one video game Vinyl I have (Ys 1) is worth ~$150 on ebay. And there's the fact that with other AV there have been objective steps up.
192khz Flac files are objectively better than CD which is objectively better than cassette, which is objectively better than 8track. 4KUHD Blu-ray is better than Blu-ray, which is better than DVD, which is better than VHS. Stuff can be rereleased on a newer format, and it will be an objective (and significant) step up in quality.
Meanwhile video games are meant to play only on their original system, future rereleases may have issues, and emulation (especially on 5th+ gen) can/will have some differences from the original hardware. There's also the fact that some people refuse to use (or learn) how to pirate these onto original hardware. For some reason people seem least willing to pirate video games, while everyone accepts movie and music piracy.

[Anonymous No.8367420]

>>8364996
How many j-league games do you need brah

[Anonymous No.8367449]

>>8367398
>192khz FLAC
Don't be retarded.

[Anonymous No.8367452]

>>8367420
u wot

[Anonymous No.8367645]

I was just about to download some N64 ROMS on Emuparadise but apparently they've all been removed. Where can you guys recommend for N64 ROMS?

[Anonymous No.8367649]

>>8367645
Archive.org

[Anonymous No.8367650]

>>8367645
Vim's lair.

[Anonymous No.8367732]

>>8367649
brilliant

[Anonymous No.8367761]

>>8367649
on Emuparadise on the Wayback Machine, any idea how to get around the Captcha?
https://web.archive.org/web/20170524133551/http://www.emuparadise.me:80/Nintendo_64_ROMs/Super_Mario_64_(USA)/40261-download

It just shows the blank javascript box and you can't interact with the captcha to solve it

[Anonymous No.8367820]

>>8367649

[Anonymous No.8367848]

>>8347848
Intellectual """"property"""" was a mistake.

[Anonymous No.8367861]

>>8367820
>No one's allowed to emulate but me
Dude I've been on 4chan since project chanology. Am I allowed to learn how to emulate now?

[Anonymous No.8369363]

>>8367861
Are you so retarded you download your emulators from archive.org or are you just a retarded larper who can't into reading comprehension. Enquiering minds want to know.

[Anonymous No.8369502]

>>8369363
It's strange how someone who claims to have been here a while still has no clue about emulators...

[Anonymous No.8369794]

>>8369502
Anon is an autistic savant. Like rainman except his apsie super power isn't math it's shitposting. He's been underage shitposting on 4chan since he was 8 months old.

[Anonymous No.8369831]

>>8367761
are you actually fucking retarded? is going to google and typing "I'm a huge retarded nigger gorilla, please show me mario64.n64 glorious confusing magic light box of wonders, I am too fucking stupid to know how to search the internet despite somehow finding myself with a connection, my carers/handlers must have set it up for me" too difficult for you?

[Anonymous No.8371105]

>>8347883
What Vita game? Speaking of, I got a complete Vita Tv Lego Movie set for $170. It's really great.

[Anonymous No.8371113]

>>8347945
And this is why I expect my copy of wario ware twisted to only go up in value.

[Anonymous No.8371248]

>>8367398
LD is the superior analog format. DVDs kinda suck by comparison.
VHS is an endless goldmine of weird cool shit. Too bad hipsters latched onto it making the cost of "sold as blanks" go for like $10 or more a tape.

[Anonymous No.8373020]

>>8351419
>>8351529
This argument isn’t great when you consider $60 was for a brand new game not a shitty used copy a kid probably dropped in the toilet 20 years ago.

[Anonymous No.8373029]

>>8373020
Sure but how many games actually go for $120+?

[Anonymous No.8373047]

>>8347848
>Who on earth is buying old physical video games for $100+?
People whose only hobbies involves empty consooming straight outta Baudrillard and calling people poorfags, which is funny because most of those people are redditors that can't say "poorfag" or "poor nigger" even though they desperately want to.

[Anonymous No.8373197]

>>8350285
The only reason I can think for VHS collecting other than sheer novelty is for shit that won't get released on modern formats or shit that has been modified heavily from it's original release i.e. Disney movies

[Anonymous No.8373202]

>>8373047
Nice headcanon poorfag

[Anonymous No.8373229]

>>8348762
I just like playing my old games with retro achievements. I own ff III on the SNES, but it still prefer playing it on my computer or flat screen as shitty as that sounds. And yes I do on a Trinitron waga for PS2 games which have piss poor emulation.

[Anonymous No.8373276]

>>8373197
Honestly, vhs porn fits that profile.

[Anonymous No.8374149]

You might be surprised to learn that the vast majority of the population is completely retarded when it comes to emulation. Many people are simply too ignorant when it comes to technology that isnt their smartphones, and many were brainwashed by those FBI warnings at the beginning of dvds and think they'll get life in prison for downloading a 35 year old game

[Anonymous No.8374182]

>>8374149
"Most people" sure because we're including people over the age of 40

[Anonymous No.8374214]

>>8347861
Just like with video games, it varies with DVDs and CDs. NSYNC and Harry Potter has millions of units floating around, and can be had for pennies on the dollar.
Alternately, the Evangelion box set I got for under $50 new was going for $500 at Half Price Books.

[Anonymous No.8374219]

>>8359425
>>8358959
can't download a good meal, anon. I'd rather spend $100 on dinner than an overpriced copy of a game.

[Anonymous No.8374387]

>>8347848
If I never started doing garage sales as a poorfag teen 10 years ago I'd never have collected games
Simple as, the market is too braindead now

[Anonymous No.8376567]

>>8347848
Had a guy come into the shop a while ago, kept pondering and asking me to drop the price on Legacy of Kain for the Dreamcast. After a week he just bought it and that was the last I saw of him.