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The best romhack has now been finally translated into English by none other than Mato, no more injections required to play in English.
>http://tomato.fobby.net/ff6-t-edition/
For more information (albeit a bit outdated)
>https://poematocx.com/ff6t/

>> No.8332075

>>8332068
So this is the type of thing you look into after you've beaten the original game multiple times and want to mix it up, right

>> No.8332079

>>8332075
Yep
>mix it up
Not really just mix it up but also include references from other FFs and other fluff.
I'd not recommend it as your first playthrough.

>> No.8332087
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I'll be dumping all the available costumes if anybody is interested in them and how they look.

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>>8332112
That's all. These costumes are unlockable and not only change how you look but also change your stats.
Can you recognize them all?

>> No.8332124

>>8332075
This is more the type of thing you play after you've beaten the game once and want an extended and upgraded experience with more challenge. Costumes that adjust your stats, new optional side-quests, new bosses, new optional super-bosses, new locations, new enemy attacks, etc.

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>>8332075
Play divergent patgs for your first time. It's like a director's cut.

>> No.8332267

>>8332068
I've been waiting for this. Got a good cover art for retroarch?

>> No.8332271

>>8332238
>"play this for your first time"
>story was changed
>some character really inspired some autistic fanfiction so we have to make them a major character!!!!!
sounds gay

>> No.8332276

Is there a version without the 90s localization baggage?

>> No.8332284

>>8332276
No, but Mato will release the tools he used for editing the romhack so you can edit it yourself.
>>8332267
>good cover
Unfortunately not.

>> No.8332290

>>8332276
Mato used the GBA translation for the original script and he himself translated the new ones.
So 90s baggage is minimal or probably even gone.

>> No.8332294

>>8332290
Going by the screenshots there's at least crap like Terra and Sabin.

>> No.8332295

>>8332271
Story is the same, they just added extra story to the under developed characters.

I beat it and it's just better

>> No.8332296

>>8332294
Oh you mean those. Then you'll just have to wait for Mato to release the tools he used as said above and do it yourself.

>> No.8332302

>>8332294
Terra > Tina
If you disagree you're a dumb fucking tranny

>> No.8332305

>>8332294
Just rename them

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>>8332284

>> No.8332317

>>8332308
Oh that looks nice. Did you do it? If you can try using the new base sprites that are based on Amano's art and it'd be perfect.
You can post it in Mato's thread if you want
>http://www.romhacking.net/forum/index.php?topic=30517.0

>> No.8332383

>>8332302
Based and redpilled

>> No.8332386

is there a way to play this on real hardware without all these autistic setup requirements

>> No.8332450 [DELETED] 

>>8332068
>>8332317
>I'm getting closer to releasing the patch
so this is just an advertising-thread

>> No.8332454

>>8332115
That's cool but where's the option to change to the original sprites? The fact that the latest updates replace some of default sprites to "Amano-ize" them bugs the hell outta me.
>>8332238
I wouldn't play any hack as your first time through, but agreed that this is one of the better ones.

>> No.8332493

>>8332454
>That's cool but where's the option to change to the original sprites?
There's no option for that as far as I can tell.

>> No.8333113

are there any good romhacks for 4 and 5 as well?

>> No.8333147

>>8333113
Void Divergence for FF5.

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>> No.8333187

>>8333147
looks interesting, thanks

>> No.8333440

>>8333113
4 has no good romhack.

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>>8333440
Bullshit. Ultima is the definitive way to play.

>> No.8334808

>>8334710

Welp now I've got another old game to eventually play... thanks anon??

>> No.8334831

>>8332276
Please go back to /v/ zoomie

>> No.8334891

Any fixes for not feeling bad for leveling low level characters without esper bonuses in FF6?

>> No.8334893

>>8334891
Just play a low-level game until you get to the World of Ruin bro :^)

>> No.8334917

>>8332296
Why didn't he make a real translation and then give that option to people that actually want stupid dub names?
Maybe translation should be left to people that aren't tainted by that shit.

>> No.8334961

>>8334917
The man has a job and no longer has much free time to do that.
Based on his previous analysis the GBA was the best relative to what is readily available so he used that instead.
And you can simply translate it on your own if you want to once he releases the tools.

>> No.8334963

>>8334710
A romhack will never be the definitive way to play a game.

>> No.8334984

>>8334891
just dont feel bad

>> No.8334991

>>8334917
learn japanese beggar scum

>> No.8335000

>>8332068
>SJW translates game
No thanks, anon

>> No.8335007

>>8334991
It's not just for myself but all the other people that don't want rewrites.

>> No.8335009

>>8334891
espers don't give stat boosts on level up in this version.

>>8334917
>some random EOP thinks he knows more about ff6's translation than the guy who literally made an entire website to compare like 6 different versions of the script to the japanese one as well as fan translated versions just to figure out which one was best
then die, retard.

>> No.8335019

>>8335009
>espers
That's another retarded thing that should never have left the 90s.

>> No.8335026

>>8335019
yeah, they should've been called "phantom beasts" since that's the actual meaning of the word they used, 幻獣. god you fucking EOPs are so disgusting the way you beg and sob for things to be translated for you and then when it finally falls into your lap you start shrieking and crying because "th-th-that's not according to MY headcanon so i HATE it!"
what do you even want, you fucking crybaby?

>> No.8335032

>>8335009
Mato has literally said that he doesn't care about what the original text says when localising works

>> No.8335046

just a reminder that an MSU-1 patch is available and is compatible with the romhack if you use any other emulator than snes9x (which has a "fix"), so that the new music won't have screeching.

>> No.8335286

>>8335026
I think Phantom would be enough.

>> No.8335320

>>8335286
But Phantom's one of the name of the espers

>> No.8335335

>>8335320
I think there's a lot confusion from having a phantom called Phantom than using the word esper that means something completely different. And it would keep it in line with the other FF games since the 幻獣 are a staple of the series.
I see esper used far more in Japanese works as an equivalent to 超能力者.

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>>8335000
qrd?

>> No.8335415

>>8335009
To be fair, while what he did was generous, he only had time to compare the first fan-translation most motable for being a romhack. Adding the numerous other fan-translations that weren't romhacks was beyond the scope of his tools. He probably knew of the early version of Ted Woolsey Uncensored Edition too and didn't want to make fun of someone else, given the Skyrender guy moved on but Shortrod is still very much active and with sycophants. Now there's been like twenty more re-edits and tons more in progress in the wake of LoL, who has time to sort through them all and determine which is the best one, and ask all of their permission to use bits and pieces to Frankenstein it into the "best" version? Not Mato. He probably just saw fit to stick to what he knew from his analysis the first time, and what he knew was that the GBA one was already the best overall. Be grateful he's releasing the tools so you can do it yourself, unlike that ChaosRush guy who's still holding FFII&FFIII hostage.
>>8335343
No rd, he often avoids politics.

>> No.8335434

>>8335343
>>8335415
He has said that it's okay to translate games to be gender-neutral, even if the original text isn't, to be more inclusive for trans people.

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>>8335434
Souce?

>> No.8335589

>>8335434

That's a very mild claim, although it could be applied in extreme ways. I wouldn't question somebody's fitness as a translator of old games based solely on that.

>> No.8335605

>>8335434
>even if the original text isn't
I smell bullshit. I don't believe he'd say that. And if he did, that's his wife talkin'. You'll come to understand one day that sometimes, in marriage, you gotta be a pussy to get the pussy.

>> No.8335645

>>8335605
is poetrader hot?

>> No.8336172

>>8332294
>bitching about names in a game that lets you change them
Beyond full retard.

>> No.8336183

>>8335589
That is not a mild claim. It validates changing the intent of the work for the sake of a virulent mental and social illness.

>> No.8336187

>>8336183
See >>8335461

>> No.8337007

>>8335461
He said it on a legends of localisation post about Zelda and had questions sent to him by fans, iirc

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>>8337007
This seems the likeliest description: https://legendsoflocalization.com/qa-links-gender-in-early-zelda-games/

>> No.8337050

Tranny-Edition?

>> No.8337074

>>8336183

Changing the intent of the work is potentially fine if the work is a poorly written story to begin with, and that's nearly always going to be the case with an old video game. If it's something that's better than what you could possibly write then changing it isn't fine because you'd just make it worse.

Erasing binary gender stuff from a game could be harmless in some circumstances and really stupid and clumsy and annoying in others. It just depends on how it's done.

>> No.8337103

>>8337074
Your words are worthless.

>> No.8337147

>>8336183
bold of anon, a frequent user of 4chan's /vr/ board, to make claims about other people being mentally ill or socially inept.

>> No.8337171

>>8337047
Yes. Might be good to look at that page on wayback since he changed it last year. But yeah, openly admits that Link/the latest character is explicitly defined as male in the Japanese, but of course we can't offend our readers who might want zhe to be a girl instead.
Anyway, on topic: if the translation is actually honest to the original text, then great, if it isn't and ether introduces creative/"localisation" liberties or includes things like Espers from the original, then there's not much point in my view

>> No.8337251

>>8337171
>Might be good to look at that page on wayback
I don't think he said anything on making things gender-neutral over the original text at any point. My impression is that he usually shuts his mouth about trans-culture much because he legit doesn't understand it but has better things on his mind like most functional married adults.
>includes things like Espers from the original
Oh c'mon, that one was brilliant. "Phantom Beast" is too many characters, for one thing. There would have been too many sacrifices in the overall script if the term was kept around at the time, and Woolsey wanted to avoid what happened with Secret of Mana. Second, the Japanese word is a made-up kanji compound. Phantom Beast is one literal reading, but that's from the understanding of each single character and is supposed to be a new word. Third, Esper just fits in English because it turns out that they were originally human at some point prior to the War of the Magi (esper being a very apt word). The script has flaws for sure, but this ain't one of them.

>> No.8337297

>>8337251
They have nothing to do with ESP. A better term would have been to coin a portmanteau of phantom and beast (or their synonyms)

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>>8337297
Can you think of something decent that fits the space of five characters?

>> No.8337324

>>8337297
>Esper
>No ESP
>Phantom Beast
>Neither phantom nor beast
You can argue Terra uses some form of ESP in certain scenes.

>> No.8337352

>some pedantic faggot is whining about the translation of the romhack instead of talking about the romhack itself
It's a fucking ROMHACK. Who gives a shit how good the translation is as long as it's good enough to play? Do you really care to read Jap fan-fiction that goddamn much?

>> No.8337410

>>8337352
He's a fucking cross dresser.
Needs to join the 50% already.

>> No.8337587

>>8337309
Good point

>> No.8337589

>>8337352
The point of the romhack is that it's a translation, anon

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8337596

Finally, I've been waiting years for this.
Between the PSP sprites for the Old Steam version and the Pixel Remaster coming soon, it's getting pretty interesting. Soon there will be a ton of zoomers joining the "FF6 is the best" bandwagon.

>> No.8337695

>>8337324
Many of them are beasts and I don't see how they aren't phantomic.
How are they even translated in all the other FF games?

>> No.8337791

>>8337074
Erasing "binary gender stuff" is introducing poor writing in games.

See Link's diaries in Breath of the Wild that were changed to be gender neutral and in second person so that "undefined entity Link" self-insert fanfiction trannies don't feel left out, even though the translation is worse off for it and that particular choice had to be overruled in other aspects of the same game just to keep a functional plot.
Or Xenoblade X, which listened to the localization team while developing the game to pander to the West but ended up removing 30% of the game's story content because it didn't gel well with the "gender neutral writing" required by the character generator. Xenoblade 2 went in the opposite direction and even the numbering pretends the latter didn't exist.
Not even the tranny non binary protagonist in SMT V could have been safe from "binary gender stuff" because he's consistently referred to as male in the localization.

That said Mato never said anything one way or another, only some kumbaya non-confrontational shit about "localizers often make localization choices, i'm not criticizing anyone", etc, even to obviously machine translated horseshit. He's really averse to politics and has defended "problematic" localizations before. Not that I'd fault him, Mother 3 alone is a landmine of thought crimes by current day tranny standards (who keep requesting an official version mostly to replace it with a more "sanitized" version)

>> No.8337898

>>8337596
>PSP sprites for the Old Steam version
There were PSP sprites for FFVI?

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>This Japanese ROM hack was developed many years ago using older tools and emulators. For this reason, some music tracks might sound strange on actual hardware and on modern, accuracy-based emulators. If this is a concern, then I recommend using:

>Snes9x emulator version 1.51 or earlier

Is time to fire up ZSNES?

>> No.8338096

>>8338034
Newsflash: Japs use and cling to outdated everything. News at 11.

>> No.8338145

>>8338034
>If this is a concern
Mato worded that poorly, it's a major problem with the romhack and basically requires the MSU-1 patch or be stuck on snes9x.

>> No.8338146

this gonna work on sd2snes?

>> No.8338150

>>8338146
Yes. People have used Retroarch cores, sd2snes, bsnes, they all work, but the new music is wonky but you can simply fix that with an MSU-1 patch which at the very least will take 200mb space.

>> No.8338157

>>8338150
thx, ill get the msu music

>> No.8338170

>>8338146
>>8338150
>>8338157
MSU-1 for others
>http://ngplus.net/index.php?/forums/topic/1171-msu-1-release-and-setup/

>> No.8339082

bamp

>> No.8339316

>>8335415
>ChaosRush
didnt really dig his FF1 retranslation, especially with all the typos. I mean why even bother if you can't make 170 lines of text error free?

>> No.8339328

>>8332068
I assume it stands for Tranny edition? If so then no thank you.

>> No.8339329

>>8332089
>MOG in blackface
Little problematic don't you think?

>> No.8339348

>>8335335
But Esper sounds cool and Phantom Beasts sounds fucking gay. Dickless retard.

>> No.8339352

>>8339329
That's supposed to be a Stiltzkin costume.

>> No.8339356

>>8335645
Not really but she's fucking stacked. I'm talking easily 38GG's.

>> No.8339368

>>8337695
They're translated as Esper in every game after FF6 because it was a genius bit of localization.

>> No.8339372

>>8332068
Who plays all these romhacks? You know what's a fun game, base FF6. You play it then move on to other games.

>> No.8339374

>>8339352
Oh good I guess they won't Rumple any feathers. ;)

>> No.8339380

>>8339372
>move on to other games.
Do you even know what board you're on.

>> No.8339391

>>8339356
>38GG
wtf

>> No.8339412

>>8339391
I mean she's pushing 200lbs easy but with jugs like that I think we can all agree it's worth it, right?

>> No.8339416

>>8339368
Woolsey was also responsible for making Kefka the mad clown instead of being a bipolar sullen kid on an adult clown's body. The man had some brilliance in localization despite it being majorly garbage.

>> No.8339430

>>8339328
Nope

>> No.8339438

>>8339412
Of course. Weight can always be reduced but breast size, without any surgery, rarely.

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>>8332089

>> No.8340364

>>8339412
>200lbs
Not that fat

>> No.8340372

>>8332068
>by none other than Mato
stop jerking yourself off.

>> No.8340657

>>8332238
>A secret 16th character
is it shadow's dog?

>> No.8340795

>>8339329
tis brown and cute not black and d

>> No.8341053

>>8339372
I don't normally bother with romhacks, but this one is genuinely worth playing if you liked FF6 and like FF as a whole. It rebalances it so well, adds so much content, fixes so much stupid bullshit the original had, that it's practically a different game in all aspects except the story and world map.

>> No.8341987

>>8341053
I agree with this based on what I've seen so far.

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>>8332068
Played this a few years back but might revisit it now