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[Anonymous No.8313887]

Do you prefer SNK or Capcom's character designs?

[Anonymous No.8313924]

not gonna play fanboy here, but SNK all the way. capcom started from martial arts stereotypes in sf2 and continued with some genetic freaks in sf3. sure, they made some cool chars here and there, but for each cool one they made oro or rufus or dhalsim.
snk started from martial arts too, but they also made iconic characters that broke the mold like Terry Bogard, then went into 90s anime / visual kei fashion with Iori, then nailed it with K' and Angel. they have a different vibe, but their characters in general are made to be "cool", not some shit assed freaks that only Yoshinori Ono likes. and when Capcom does make something cool (eg Yun), it feels more like SNK than Capcom.

[Anonymous No.8313936]

>>8313924
also to add. sometimes designs alone might not carry snk chars all the way. but they make up for it 200% with personalities. see: Yuri or Takuma. Capcom rarely if ever reaches same heights (Karin, Makoto), and when they do they fuck it all up in the next game.

[Anonymous No.8313951]

>>8313924
I disagree. SNK has more uninteresting characters imo. Most of the fatal fury cast apart from well known ones are so boring. Tung Fu Roe, Raiden, Bob wilson are so forgettable. Kof isn't immune either, I find Vice, Mature, King and so many others just so meh and lame. Capcom definitely has meh characters, but I always felt less so.

[Anonymous No.8313981]

>>8313951
well first off, it depends on person. i can't start telling you how many fans vice and king have. i'm dead serious, they're best girls for like 50% snk fans out there, along with leona.
second, you picked very bad examples. both companies have ups and downs. every company FG series does. so let's not forget that Tung Fu Rue and Raiden were very late guests to KoF. Bob wilson hasn't even been to KoF at all. Vice and Mature started out as basically quick 1-off characters meant to be killed by iori. i'm not implying they are great or anything. but for every one of those, there will be Billy, Geese, Kim, Yamazaki, Rock, Vanessa, Yashiro, etc.

[Anonymous No.8314005]

>>8313981
I think it might be that Capcom's characters tend to be more stylized and thats why i like them more but I've always felt that SNK had a sea of lamers with a few exceptions, but Capcom was the opposite. I fucking love the entire SF3 cast, Q and Oro are based af, and the entire Darkstalkers and Red Earth cast have so much personality.

[Anonymous No.8314007]

Both have hits and misses but overall I always liked SNK designs and artwork a bit better.

[Anonymous No.8314013]

>>8314007
Shinkiro is based. I always perferred Samsho or Last blade designs to KOF and Fatal fury tho.

[Anonymous No.8314038]

>>8314005
then it depends on what you prefer. i always preferred anime character, rock star / idol designs. if Oro is down your alley then good for you i guess.

[Anonymous No.8314064]

>>8314038
>rock star / idol designs
I think that might be why, i never liked these types of characters that much. But i do agree with you that characters like Rufus and Dhalsim are so lame lmfao. I think El Fuerte is capcom's shittiest design lol

[Anonymous No.8314075]

>>8313887
SNK by far

[Anonymous No.8314087]

>>8314075
What is your reasoning?

[Anonymous No.8314163]

Fatal Fury > Street Fighter = KOF originals, that's my taste.

I think FF designs were all kino and got right both "cool" street clothes characters as well as martial arts designs. KOF originals were too much made to please female fans it seems, and SF (aside from Alpha) always has a really ugly cartoonish look to it where everyone looks like some frankenstein monster

[Anonymous No.8314209]

>>8313887
King of Fighters has better designs then Street Fighter, Last Blade has better designs then either of those, and Darkstalkers has the best designs in the entire genre.
>>8314163
FF has some great characters but the boss characters of FF2 always annoyed me since they felt so clearly "inspired" by SFII's bosses. Geese, Krauser, and Yamazaki are amazing characters but I don't think I've ever heard of a Laurence or Axel fan. I'm probably in the minority but I think Art of Fighting's cast is more likable then Fatal Fury's in all honesty.

[Anonymous No.8314293]

>>8314087
I don't think too hard about it. SNK has cooler characters from a design standpoint and in motion to me. Outside of Darkstalkers, Devilotte, and the MvC2 originals, Capcom's FG characters don't leave much of an impression on me.

[Anonymous No.8314304]

>>8313887
SNK can be faulted for leaning too much into realism with martial arts getups and denims for days, but Capcom designs consistently look like budget 80's anime rejects and should be killed with fire.

[Anonymous No.8314323]

>>8313887
I like SNK better and I don't even speak spanish

[Anonymous No.8314341]

>>8314304
I'm genuinely curious what you think is good character design anon.

[Anonymous No.8314446]

>>8314341
Yes i am too. I never thought that poorly of capcom's character designs.

[Anonymous No.8314450]

>>8314209
>King of Fighters has better designs then Street Fighter, Last Blade has better designs then either of those, and Darkstalkers has the best designs in the entire genre.

based.

[Anonymous No.8314454]

>>8313887
Hard to compare. If we are going Street Fighter vs Fatal Fury/KoF, Capcom has a more comic book, cartoon, 90s anime style for pretty much all of their stuff, while SNK is more grounded and gritty or sort of in the case of FF, like an 80s action movie vibe. Just compare Capcom vs SNK to SNK vs Capcom alone and you can feel the major differences. I enjoy the Capcom style more for the non-fighting stuff they do, besides Darkstalkers and Red Earth, while I like SNK fighters much more, especially the style of Fatal Fury. FF feels more like a true "street fighting" game then anything Capcom ever released.

[Anonymous No.8314560]

>>8313887
Capcom as whole vs SNK as a whole probably Capcom, but Capcom fighting cast vs SNK fighting cast probably SNK.

I think Capcom's fighters are more well-rounded though, the entire SFII cast is iconic. I feel like most of SNK's standouts are from older SNK franchises like Fatal Fury or SamSho rather than KoF, I don't care about the design of some popular KoF characters like Iori, K', Ash, Sylvie all that much, and I consider characters like Bao, Chris or Meitenkun to be straight up bad. I really like Vanessa and Leona though, Kyo often looks good too.

[Anonymous No.8315140]

>>8313887
SNK's by far but I did like Capcom's renditions of SNK's designs. CVS2 is a better game than anything SNK made.

[Anonymous No.8315163]

>>8313924
Not to disagree too much but Terry didn't break a mold, he's just from a less common one, the American action hero archetype. I suppose, you are right in the sense that he does not have a specific martial art tied to his design but you look at him and instantly know he's a tough Roadhouse-esque fighting dude.

[Anonymous No.8315169]

Street Fighter characters have that "instant classic" feel about them. SNK designs are tryhard and too much anime/flashy.

[Anonymous No.8315170]

>>8313887

snk art, capcom designs.

[Anonymous No.8315715]

>>8313951
Vice is cool af

[Anonymous No.8315771]

>>8313951
>King
>not peak character design
How can any human have taste this shitty?

[Anonymous No.8315819]

>>8315771
>Actually thinks king is a good character

[Anonymous No.8315834]

>>8313887
>>8314007
SNK designs are basically joint coomer/cosplay bait, refined and optimized to the max; they know their audience and fully exploit it.

Pretty much this for me >>8315169 I'll always like Capcom's playful exaggeration better.

[Anonymous No.8315914]

>>8315834
>SNK designs are basically joint coomer/cosplay bait, refined and optimized to the max
look at Darkstalkers female cast and tell me Capcom didn't do the same. SF too, with Sakura and Cammy. even Rival Schools is guilty of it, and in general the latter was way closer to anime designs and snk style.
>instant classic
>playful exaggeration
ah yes, i also like generic national stereotype #142 with huge feet

[Anonymous No.8315928]

>>8315819
I pray you gain some taste some day.

[Anonymous No.8315930]

>>8315928
I hope you do too.

[Anonymous No.8315937]

>>8315914
>Darkstalkers female cast
The coomer angle is there for sure, but that's almost a logistical necessity in any female game character (or used to be at least). Still, their designs go beyond stock anime characters with cute clothes on, which describes the entire SNK stable both female AND male except for the early Samurai Shodown games maybe.

[Anonymous No.8317242]

>SNK characters
>Some dude wearing clothes

[Anonymous No.8317251]

>>8317242
Kek pretty acurate

[Anonymous No.8317273]

>>8315937
>but that's almost a logistical necessity in any female game character (or used to be at least)
ok, then why complain about SNK doing it? SNK wasn't even doing it that much, beside obvious Mai.
>their designs go beyond stock anime characters with cute clothes on
idk what do you mean by "cute clothes" but ok

[Anonymous No.8317392]

>>8313887
SNK fighter designs tend to be more interesting (as fashion, etc.), but by the mid-90s Capcom had the better artists, art direction, and animators, I feel. Shinkiro's figures -- and he was the face of most SNK fighters -- tended to be very rigid and lacking in dynamism, and his treatment of surfaces, over-airbrushed for my tastes.

tl;dr -- SNK characters illustrated by Capcom artists: Perfection.

[Anonymous No.8317553]

>>8313887
Vampire Savior > SamSho > KoF/Ago/FF > Street Fighter

[Anonymous No.8318408]

>>8317392
>but by the mid-90s Capcom had the better artists, art direction, and animators
I feel this as well. By 1994 Capcom had Xmen: COTA and Darkstalkers, while SNK had KOF 94 and AOF2. You be the judge on which games look nicer.

[Anonymous No.8318919]

>>8315169
>SNK designs are too tryhard
>Chun-Li wears a Chinese dress with hair buns, stockings, wrestling boots and spiked bracelets

[Anonymous No.8318931]

>>8318408
SNK also had Samurai Shodown 2

[Anonymous No.8319156]

>>8317392
Capcom took a nosedive after SNK went under though.

[Anonymous No.8319161]

>>8319156
i mean amatersu pretty sick tho

[Anonymous No.8319375]

>>8315819
says the guy posting a cropped scat panel

[Anonymous No.8319382]

>>8313887
Capcom characters tend to be archetypes and SNK’s tend to be people with lives and personalities.

[Anonymous No.8320908]

>>8315169
Yuri is better than any of your street fighter waifu's. And to answer OP I find it hard to pick as both have great characters but SNK probably has more stupid characters overall like that little kid and the sumo wrestler girl.

[Anonymous No.8320978]

>>8313887
SNK hands down.

Capcom has a tenth of the FG characters and still loses even in proportion of good vs lame. Some Cap games have superior animation and move sets, but they still come off feeling generic.

SNK chars mostly feel more unique, giving games more variety.

[Anonymous No.8321120]

>>8314007
Why does she wear her suspenders under her shirt