So... what's the best solution to repair/replace these bastards?

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Anonymous Tue Nov 2 15:12:27 2021 No.8294971 [Reply] [Original]

So... what's the best solution to repair/replace these bastards?

Anonymous Tue Nov 2 16:35:19 2021 No.8295175
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>>8294971
Ughhhhh where to even begin. First off before anyone says otherwise kitsch bent parts are garbage. The benchmarks for kitsch bent parts are off significantly pic related. I can't even reach full running speed in a number of games without being really rough with the stick. And the problem with all of these third party controllers and parts is that they can change the way a game feels in big ways or in subtle ways, and that's the biggest problem with all of these solutions. If your not comparing how a game feels with a 64 controller in good condition to a third party option then you will never know how the devs truly intended that game to feel, because every game was developed for the controllers unique analog gate and sensitivity.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 2 16:37:20 2021 No.8295182 find a good one with a working stick and just clean it out and lube it. Despite being such a meme it's not hard at all to find N64 controllers with good sticks. It's not worth being autistic about trying to find a PERFECT oem stick.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 2 16:42:05 2021 No.8295194 >>8295182 this. I bought 4 this year and they're all fine

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 2 17:09:02 2021 No.8295258 File: 73 KB, 720x589, n64-brawler-64-pad.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8294971 Maybe the retarded option, but I haven't had any problems with the brawler.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 2 19:31:25 2021 No.8295635 File: 42 KB, 720x540, retro-fighters-brawler-64-controller-test.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8295258 It's shit. Your losing degrees of precision because of it's gate and it's to sensitive

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 2 19:58:50 2021 No.8295696 >>8295258 Literally the worst third party controller available at the moment.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 2 20:21:20 2021 No.8295745 File: 27 KB, 450x450, 71gTWyIKf1L._AC_SY450_.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I've seen these ones for like 20$, are these any good?

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 2 20:32:57 2021 No.8295772 >>8294971 Find an OEM controller with a good joystick and treasure it to your dying day. Also, don't press DOWN on the thumbstick, push it around from the sides or else you'll bore into the analog stick's base.

Anonymous Tue Nov 2 20:35:11 2021 No.8295774

>>8294971
No idea. I just bought my N64 on Sat and it's coming without a controller. Ordered a Hyperkin Captain after reading reviews that spoke positively about it, so hopefully I did not waste my money. Might see about buying an OEM and giving it a go if the Captain is bad, or if I want a second controller in general.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 2 20:37:44 2021 No.8295783 >>8295175 That feels pretty accurate to my experience with the Kitsch-bent parts, I bought just the gears and bowl, properly lubed it up, and I have to push forward really hard to reach the max speed

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 2 20:38:10 2021 No.8295786 >>8295774 I have a Captain and an OEM. I switch between them alot because the Captain is much more comfortable, but it's far less precise. The target practice in OOT in particular is very hard to do on the Captain.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 2 20:38:11 2021 No.8295787 >>8295745 Terrible way to sensitive

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 2 20:43:29 2021 No.8295797 >>8295783 Try gears from n64gears.com and this bowl https://www.etsy.com/listing/1050220791/replacement-bowl-bowl-n64-joystick I don't have the benchmarks but it seems to fix that problem and comparing to my oem it seems very close in sensitivity

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 2 20:56:12 2021 No.8295832 >>8295772 >>8294971 The ASCII pad and the hori commander use oem Nintendo parts, you might be able to find a deal on one from Japan

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 2 21:01:47 2021 No.8295842 >>8294971 replace with japanese OEM controllers they seem to have taken better care of them "acceptable used" japan = "tight stick" "excellent" usa

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 2 21:02:49 2021 No.8295846 >>8294971 they hyperkin aftermarket ones are the best value ive found for 3rd party get them while theyre still dirt cheap although i will admit its not a "perfect" 1:1 replacement but for most titles youll be fine

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 2 21:07:22 2021 No.8295856 >>8295786 >but it's far less precise. Oh man, hopefully it will be usable for Perfect Dark/Goldeneye/Turok at the very least.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 2 21:17:42 2021 No.8295886 >>8295856 lol just return it

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 2 21:41:02 2021 No.8295940 >>8294971 >>8295353 So far it's using the N64gears.com + Kitch-bent bowl and stick. Or going with a steel stick 64. They say that the N64gears are almost perfect.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 2 21:55:59 2021 No.8295984 >>8294971 Stick repair is simple, honestly. 2 part epoxy putty, smoothed out with some water and a fresh indent with a marble is all you need to do. Sand down if necessary and lube with white lithium grease and you’ll be as good as new.

Anonymous Tue Nov 2 21:57:53 2021 No.8295991

>>8295175
Exactly this. Nintendo 64 controllers are unfortunately a very frustrating subject. Mint or barely used controllers exist, and some appropriate lubrication works to prevent wear, but there's just not any simple way to repair a worn or damaged controller without gutting other controllers for parts.

Kitsch Bent's parts are low quality and not worth it.

>>8295842
The story goes that Nintendo didn't add lubrication to the analog sticks sold in the west. I don't know if that's true, and it would be weird, but it would explain the comparably much lower wear. They had Mario Party in Japan, so it's not like the sticks weren't exposed to that.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 2 22:01:22 2021 No.8296002 >>8295940 >Or going with a steel stick 64. Unfortunately, they seem to only make one stick per month. >They say that the N64gears are almost perfect. Do they actually produce them in any quality so that they're available?

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 2 22:01:53 2021 No.8296005 >>8295940 >>8295991 See >>8295797

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 2 22:03:51 2021 No.8296010 >>8296002 They do but try pairing it with this bowl instead of a kitsch bent https://www.etsy.com/listing/1050220791/replacement-bowl-bowl-n64-joystick

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 2 22:05:16 2021 No.8296017 N64 isnt worth playing.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 2 22:13:42 2021 No.8296037 >>8295856 It won't be

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 2 22:29:52 2021 No.8296086 >>8296017 Vapid post. >>8296010 Do I need anything but a screwdriver to swap these parts?

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 2 22:33:48 2021 No.8296103 >>8296086 Just a philips screwdriver

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 2 22:39:22 2021 No.8296124 >>8296086 No the Etsy seller even includes graphite powder so you can lubricate it

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 2 23:33:22 2021 No.8296252 File: 245 KB, 900x827, 1458670581858.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8296124 Oh man.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 2 23:39:06 2021 No.8296270 >>8294971 Have you tried not breaking it? I've never broke a controller in my entire life. What is wrong with you people.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 2 23:41:07 2021 No.8296274 >>8296270 Unbased retard.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 2 23:45:42 2021 No.8296293 shill me the best adapter for using N64 controllers on PC

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 2 23:55:52 2021 No.8296316 >>8295182 Isn't going to do a damn thing if the bowl of the analog and nub at the bottom of the joystick are worn off, which is the case 90% of the time with used controllers.

Anonymous Wed Nov 3 00:08:02 2021 No.8296347

>>8295175
>>8295783
Holy fuck I thought I was the only one. A while back I decided to replace my old stick because it was horribly worn down. So I read online that the sticks are close to OEM and tons of people are saying they're good so I end up putting them in. It feels fine and snaps back to center properly but moving to the sides require much more force than an OEM controller and I continually fucked with it and couldn't completely fix it. I just ended up buying a controller with a good stick and lubed it myself.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 3 00:13:46 2021 No.8296357 >>8296252 Oh wow I had no idea it was conductive. Just get silicone grease then.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 3 00:38:12 2021 No.8296398 >>8296252 What's wrong with that?

Anonymous Wed Nov 3 00:43:49 2021 No.8296408
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>>8295991
Actually just now to my surprise I've actually found real evidence that Nintendo lubed up there later sticks a guy on this dead forum took pictures of a blue lubricant inside one his new oem controllers https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/nintendo_64_forever/experiment-with-thumbstick-taking-one-for-the-team-t1507.html

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 3 00:46:50 2021 No.8296414 >>8296274 Yeah I'm the retard, that's why you're the one with a broken controller.

Anonymous Wed Nov 3 00:52:43 2021 No.8296423
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>>8295991
Wow yea for so long I thought it was a myth because I never saw any evidence for it just people talking about but here's another guy talking about the blue lubricant. Now I only wish there was some to know what the fuck type lubricant it was

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 3 02:00:17 2021 No.8296549 >>8294971 Take care of them and you won't need too.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 3 02:08:53 2021 No.8296573 File: 287 KB, 2304x1296, controllers.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8294971 Just grab another one from the box bro. You do have a big box of N64 controllers stored as the developers originally intended, right?

Anonymous Wed Nov 3 02:15:14 2021 No.8296583
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I'm unfamiliar with the N64, so call me a retard if I'm being a retard. Are any of the parts interchangeable with the new wireless N64 clone controllers they're making for the Switch?

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 3 02:28:24 2021 No.8296607 >>8295635 Literally every stick in existence is like this and it doesn't fucking matter. Analog sticks have an outer ring and inner ring deadzone retard

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 3 03:12:23 2021 No.8296687 >>8296607 It means that the cardinal directions are more sensitive, excuse me nigger

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 3 03:15:54 2021 No.8296692 >>8296583 I think you can harvest out the gears, the bowl is connected to the pcb and has different wiring then the og. If you ever get one and test it come back and tell us how it is.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 3 03:17:02 2021 No.8296695 >>8296573 Be real, how many of those are in good condition?

Anonymous Wed Nov 3 03:24:27 2021 No.8296707

>>8296692
That's unfortunate, shame that Nintendo seems to be so dedicated to fucking over their customers.
To be honest by the time I get my hands on an N64 and actually have any inkling on how to repair a controller for it I'm sure somebody else would have tested it.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 3 03:31:32 2021 No.8296716 >>8296549 >he never played Mario Party

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 3 03:56:58 2021 No.8296753 >>8296695 They're all in perfect condition. Anything that's not is in a different box. I also have a bunch of NIB controllers and bundles will controllers. I'll literally never run out.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 3 03:58:08 2021 No.8296756 >>8296753 I'm just going to say it anon, I think you might have a few too many N64 controllers

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 3 04:13:33 2021 No.8296787 >>8296753 Could you take apart one of the latest made nib controllers and see if it has blue lube inside it?

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 3 04:29:03 2021 No.8296814 File: 581 KB, 500x302, 76538.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8296573 >It's another box autist repost again This is honestly pathetic at this point.

Anonymous Wed Nov 3 05:17:01 2021 No.8296894

>>8296756
Well allegedly these things break at the slightest touch and I should burn through these in a few weeks. But I haven't had one go bad in years. I must be doing something wrong?

>>8296787
I guess I could. What's the point? Most of these are Japanese, which have lube according to /vr/ lore.

>>8296814
Stay mad little poorfag

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 3 05:22:32 2021 No.8296904 This has got to be a shill thread, right? Didn't that shitshow of a controller just get re-released or something?

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 3 05:29:47 2021 No.8296917 >>8296573 I bow

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 3 07:36:20 2021 No.8297139 >>8296573 i hate this image everytime its posted so much atleast store them properly wtf you are damaging the sticks

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 3 08:16:33 2021 No.8297189 >>8296904 It has a shit-ass potentiometer stick which will drift, and the port on the bottom is filled in.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 3 08:39:35 2021 No.8297232 >>8295635 >because of it's gate your welcome.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 3 09:07:35 2021 No.8297286 >>8296583 The stick is mostly the same, the gears are a little bit different because they have a stuf that connects to the potenciometer, so, maybe they'll fit, maybe they'll not and you'll have to cut. You'll need another bowl.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 3 13:15:37 2021 No.8297902 >>8296894 No one has ever identified what type of lube Nintendo used . If you could take a picture of it maybe a hyper autist anon could figure it out.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 3 15:12:54 2021 No.8298345 >>8296894 Nah I'm not poor, just disappointed in you.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 3 18:33:04 2021 No.8298893 >>8296716 I get this same faggy response every time. Yes i played Mario Party, we just didn't play the mini games like fucking spergs.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 3 19:16:22 2021 No.8298959 >>8295194 ok and how many haggard, used-up controllers did you pass over while shopping for FOUR CONTROLLERS IN ONE YEAR

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 3 21:39:00 2021 No.8299239 >>8298893 not our fault you suck at video games

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 3 21:45:48 2021 No.8299256 >>8294971 give up

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 3 21:52:37 2021 No.8299272 Steelsticks64 are the best option Linus restocks his A grade bowls every few months so with some patience anyone should be able to get in on these https://steelsticks64.com/?product=n64-steelbowl-a-grade

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 3 21:54:53 2021 No.8299278 >>8298959 I bought them all online, so practically none. I just bought an N64 this year.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 3 21:57:51 2021 No.8299287 I bought a bundle of 3 controllers last year and they were all garbage

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 3 22:07:38 2021 No.8299313 Is it true that Nintendo lubed the sticks on controllers sold in Japan but not elsewhere?

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 3 22:31:07 2021 No.8299343 >>8296017 This

Anonymous Thu Nov 4 00:14:22 2021 No.8299648

>>8297139
That's literally the point of it.

>>8297902
I thought youtube universally agreed it's lithium grease? Unless there's some incredibly distinct feature there will be no way to tell what it is from a picture. And if there was someone else would have done this long ago. And I've opened controllers before and I'm sure I would have noticed if I saw blue grease. It's also possible they used multiple types. Next time I have one open I'll take some pictures, but it's not going to tell anyone anything.

>>8298345
lol. You're a poorfag and jelly you don't have a big box of mint Japanese controllers. You wouldn't flip your shit every time I post it if you weren't.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 4 00:40:02 2021 No.8299712 >>8295940 >>8296002 The n64 gears are flawed because they fucked up the molding. https://www.wtfparts.info/post/n64gearsreview

Anonymous Thu Nov 4 00:47:09 2021 No.8299727

>>8299648
I have never seen anyone show a single piece of evidence that Nintendo ever lubed up there controllers besides the two pieces of evidence in this thread. YouTube says you should lube them but never that they were, I back then never took apart a controller but remember how they felt and it wasn't a smooth lubed up type feel. I've always asked people in these threads when someone inevitably says Japanese controllers were lubed if they've seen this first hand and the answer every time has been no. It would make sense that they just used silicone grease but maybe it was something industrial grade, and with the power of autism finding the answer through just a picture is possible as this website has been able to find the location of Syrian rebels just from seeing the power lines in a picture.

Anonymous Thu Nov 4 00:53:47 2021 No.8299743

>>8298893
You didn't play mario party then, I bet you didn't even play smash brothers.

>>8294971
It's increible how fast time passes and there's no perfect N64 analog replacement. I wanted kistch bent but seeing all the angry posts in here it makes me doubt a lot because my joysticks are like a flacid dick by so much use.
I also wanted to buy the Gamecube joystick to N64 adapter by raphnet but I got a feeling that it will never come to my country or will be lost in the mail.

Anonymous Thu Nov 4 00:59:38 2021 No.8299753
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>>8299648
>You wouldn't flip your shit every time I post it if you weren't.
Having seen your posts several times in the past, it's you're autistic attention seeking behavior and low quality clap-backs looking for a fight that's annoying is all. I'm not the boogeyman you think I am. Couldn't care less about the N64 controllers since I think they're garbo.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 4 01:30:57 2021 No.8299821 >>8299753 > Couldn't care less about the n64 controllers Why are you here then?

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 4 01:36:47 2021 No.8299830 >>8299753 Retard

Anonymous Thu Nov 4 06:11:49 2021 No.8300319 [DELETED]

>>8299727
Next time I have one open I'll check to see if it's lubed and if so post pics.

>>8299753
>i-i-im not mad
lmao. I can literally hear your sphincter clenching from here. If I were the attention seeking boogeyman you think I am wouldn't I be posting selfies of myself with my controllers on instagram? Instead I'm here triggering little bitches who take their toys, and even worse themselves, far too seriously. I'm a master baiter, but you're making this so easy, I'm actually getting worse.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 4 14:49:57 2021 No.8301395 >>8299712 What do you mean fucked up? This review praises n64gears tho

Anonymous Fri Nov 5 03:20:34 2021 No.8303117
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>>8301395
Did you not read it? The guy bought multiple sets of their gears. All their gears have a notch since the mold is flawed. They're not bad, but they could have been better

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 5 03:50:59 2021 No.8303145 >>8303117 better than nothing, and surely better than shitch-bent gears

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 5 04:27:27 2021 No.8303196 >>8299712 In addition to the burrs those look like shit all around. Fuck me. I've seen literal children with $100 printers shit out better looking stuff than that.

Anonymous Fri Nov 5 04:42:18 2021 No.8303213

Are there any actual decent options that are good for games like f zero x that require really fine/small movements?

I've got a perfectley fine controller that I keep lubed and everything, but every replacement I've ever tried on every other controller has been shit.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 5 04:54:39 2021 No.8303230 >>8303213 >Are there any actual decent options that are good for games like f zero x that require really fine/small movements? no

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 5 08:49:55 2021 No.8303512 I just use replacement stick kit but with a modified firmware for the board.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 5 09:08:18 2021 No.8303535 >>8303117 Yeah, it has this little flaw, the review said he based the mold on a used N64 controller... that was a pretty bad idea.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 5 10:57:25 2021 No.8303702 >>8295175 >>8295635 Curious what results you'd get using the N64 controller for Switch with this program

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 5 12:54:17 2021 No.8303942 >>8303213 >>8299272

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 5 15:03:16 2021 No.8304247 >>8303702 Guaranteed to be terrible, it uses potentiometers instead of encoder wheels.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 5 15:31:19 2021 No.8304315 File: 16 KB, 300x225, s-l300.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8303213 I know how it looks but unironically try this.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 5 15:40:33 2021 No.8304353 I am an N64 defender but even I can’t defend the shitty thumbstick Doesn’t help that every 12 yo ever fucked them up playing Mario Party

Anonymous Fri Nov 5 16:19:12 2021 No.8304480 [DELETED]

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>>8300319
>Instead I'm here triggering little bitches who take their toys, and even worse themselves, far too seriously
KEK He likes to larp as a school bully.
Weird flex.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 5 16:50:05 2021 No.8304569 >>8294971 Buy cheap oem from Japan, take care of them That’s the only option

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>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 6 01:16:00 2021 No.8305994 >>8303213 The only option is buying a brand new controller (expensive) or Steelsticks (last stock was in April and the guy is MIA) so you're effectively fucked.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 6 01:55:19 2021 No.8306054 >>8295984 Exactly this. Really easy fix. It's only ever the bottom bowl that wears out, the ball on the end of the joystick remains untouched.

Anonymous Sat Nov 6 03:26:58 2021 No.8306218

>>8305994
I really like the Steelsticks design and find it odd that there's apparently only one guy in the world who has the knowledge, tools, and drive to make them. Well I guess not so much drive any more. So why doesn't someone else do it? I get that stories of there being thousands of NEETs lining up to pay $100 for a stick might not be accurate. But are there really not enough NEETs who would be willing to pay half that for a chinkshit knock off to justify it? I thought they were all swimming in cash with all the meme coin they bought with covid handouts?

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 6 05:21:32 2021 No.8306369 >>8303117 Maybe these are better? https://store.stangboycustoms.com/products/replacement-n64-gears-v1b3

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