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The source code for the first two Little Big Adventure games was released on GitHub under the GPL version 2.
https://blog.2point21.com/p/devlog-releasing-lba-open-source
https://github.com/2point21/lba1-classic
https://github.com/2point21/lba2-classic
I hope they stick to the license they choose and refuse to use any proprietary forks and drop platforms that are not compatible with the GPL for their upcoming remaster.

>> No.8277263

I really liked the first one but I could never finish it.

>> No.8277275

Which platforms are incompatible with v2?

>> No.8277287

>>8277275
Any platform that requires NDAs: Steamworks, GOG Galaxy, Epic Online Services, consoles in general. The mandatory App Store DRM is also a deal breaker for the GPL.

>> No.8277336

>>8277263
The developers pretty much fixed almost everything that was wrong with LBA1 in LBA2.

>> No.8277345

Let me guess, you just want those games for fr- uh, I mean, "preservation".

>> No.8277353

>>8277345
I did not said that.

>> No.8277362

RIP programmers who worked for years to reverse engineer LBA engine.
On the other hand, ScummVM will quickly absorb original source code into its reimplementation of LBA.

>> No.8277392

>>8277362
ScummVM is GPL version 2 or later.
This code is GPL version 2 only.
They cannot include it without removing the "or later" clause.

>> No.8277407

>>8277208
Are you shitting me??? Holy shit, hopefully somebody makes an updated port without the weird aiming and fucked up save system.

>> No.8277409

>>8277336
>buy game
>can't progress, even read hints, seem to do nothing
>don't buy second one
not my problem

>> No.8277421

>>8277287
So they'd have to host themselves? Or maybe use itch?

>> No.8277438

>>8277421
They can sell on Steam and GOG, but they cannot use any of their APIs. That if they were going to stick to the license they choose. In reality, they are the copyright holders and this allows them to ignore the GPL. GPL for thee, but not for me.

>> No.8277442

>>8277438
>They can sell on Steam and GOG, but they cannot use any of their APIs.
Right, I keep forgetting that putting in DRM AIDS is not actually mandatory to sell from their stores.

>In reality, they are the copyright holders and this allows them to ignore the GPL. GPL for thee, but not for me.
Wait wut? I'm not that savvy on legalese and apparently I missed v2 having an exempt for that last time I've read it.

>> No.8277459 [DELETED] 

>>8277442
>Wait wut? I'm not that savvy on legalese and apparently I missed v2 having an exempt for that last time I've read it.
As long as you own all of the code (or were allowed by contributors to do what you want) you can relicense code, and sell GPL exceptions. This is what Qt has been doing for years.
To mention a video game example, this is why id Software could make proprietary ports to new consoles for Doom and other games after the GPL relicensing (another example itself of more than one license for a piece of software). I'm sure there are more examples, but I do not know about them. The Xbox 360 port of Duke Nukem 3D is another example.
Of course, this requires people assuming good faith that the copyright holder is not stealing code by other people that it is solely under the GPL.

>> No.8277462

>>8277442
>Wait wut? I'm not that savvy on legalese and apparently I missed v2 having an exempt for that last time I've read it.
As long as you own all of the code (or were allowed by contributors to do what you want) you can relicense code, and sell GPL exceptions. This is what Qt has been doing for years. MongoDB is another example (originally under the AGPL, and then under the SSPL).
To mention video game examples, this is why id Software could make proprietary ports to new consoles for Doom and other games after the GPL relicensing (another example itself of more than one license for a piece of software). The Xbox 360 port of Duke Nukem 3D is another example.
Of course, this requires people assuming good faith that the copyright holder is not stealing code by other people that it is solely under the GPL.

>> No.8277625

>>8277392
Who gives a shit

>> No.8277627

>>8277208
>muh softwarecommie rant
kwab

>>8277442
>Wait wut? I didn't even read the license
>But I'll pretend I did and just missed something
kwab

>> No.8277637

>>8277627
>everyone reads every license every day
How about you kill yourself instead, you worthless waste of oxygen.

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8278010

>>8277637
>i'm bootyblasted because i pretended i read the license but made it ovious by my ignorant shitposting that i didn't
>now i'm coping

>> No.8279826

>the remakes will use Unreal Engine
https://blog.2point21.com/p/devlog-and-the-winner-is
Of course they will. At least the released the source code to the original engines, which is more than I can say for most cancerous remasters.