/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.827064]

Where can I find links to old video game communities? And I really mean OLD: I wanna see the gaming scene of the 90s through old web pages, in case they still exist.

I wonder what's the earliest we can find. It would be fascinating to read posts from 1990 or something like that. Even more if they talk about hardcore shit like PC-FX or the first emulators ever made.

[Anonymous No.827206]

Bump. I'm pretty sure Google had some sort of filter in which you could select the year of the reuslts, but I can't find it.

[Anonymous No.827228]

http://www.odysseyofhyrule.com/

[Anonymous No.827231]

>>827064
The emulator thing would be really interesting to read about.

[Anonymous No.827234]

>>827064
We had a few threads about feeds archived on Google. It's exactly like /v/, but with cartoonish platformers instead of brown'n'bloom on one side, Nintendo vs. Sega on the other, and occasional somehow-pity-inducing posts about how laughably outdated consoles are compared to PCs.

[Anonymous No.827236]

Google Groups. We had a thread on it a few weeks back; Newsgroups with people discussing then-modern and future systems and games.

Largely the same as 4chan, though nothing even close to what you would call memes, probably because such a slim segment of the population had internet access, whereas now every retard with an iPhone can participate on the web.

Even when I first got online, I seldom used newsgroups for anything, as everything seemed like it was in the middle of a years-old conversation, and I saw no entry-points.

[Anonymous No.827238]

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/rec.games.video.misc

[Anonymous No.827267]

>>827228
cool! but I'm don't really like Zelda and I'm looking more into forums and more diverse discussions.
>>827234
>>827236
awesome! is it the one that >>827238 mentions?
I don't even get what this is.

[Anonymous No.827290]

Have an old Quake II webcomic
http://riad.usk.pk.edu.pl/~pmj/quakecomics/

[Anonymous No.827318]

Things are like they are, except:
>less memes
>people were more openly weeaboo

[Anonymous No.827360]

>>827318
but where can I find them?
I mean, I'm reading what >>827238 posted and there is some nice material, but I don't understand what this "google groups" thing is and why It's still alive to this day. Is it just a google thing that compiles videogame related posts from all around the Internet?

[Anonymous No.827365]

>>827360
also why everyone asks about fucking 3do and Jaguar? is it because internet was only avaliable to rich people aka the very same ones who were able to buy these pieces of shit?

and why is the earlist i can find from 93?

[Anonymous No.827364]

>>827360

Google Groups doesn't strictly compile vidya-related posts. It just happens to have them in addition to a lot of other content.

[Anonymous No.827368]

>>827364
Oh, so Google groups is a site that has been operational since 93 and covers a lot of topics, one of them being videogames?

[Anonymous No.827380]

>>827368
>Google groups is a site that has been operational since 93

Not quite; its simply compiled as many old posts as it can from newsgroups. I don't even think Google Groups has been around past 2000, but it has posts going back to the early-80s because its search engine has crawled over newsgroups and found them.

[Anonymous No.827378]

>>827368
Google wasn't around in 1993, obviously, but this seems to be as far back as the records that Google has, had gone back to.

[Anonymous No.827382]

>>827368
Yes, google took over usenet. And when they did that they archived all of the post so people could go back and look at them.

[Anonymous No.827393]

>>827378
>>827365

Unless Google deleted a lot of stuff recently, it should go much further than 1993. I've been back to browse posts from the mid-80s video game crash countless times.

[Anonymous No.827415]

>>827064
But anon, you're just in it!

[Anonymous No.827449]

>>827378
>>827380
>>827382
oh, thanks. So it goes further than 93? VIDEOGAME CRASH OF 83????? HOLY FUCK HOWWW
I just tried to set the filter to 92 at most and it doesn't show anything.

[Anonymous No.827461]

>>827393
Google Groups got "revamped." Unfortunately, it's 2013, so that means they arbitrarily switched things around, removed some options, and made others awkward to access while adding nothing significant.

One of the things they removed is the ability to easily search between two dates. You can still do it, but you have to manually specify it using some kind of code in the search bar and you have to dig around. They don't make it obvious that you can do it.

before:YYYY/MM/DD
after:YYYY/MM/DD

For example, before:2011/11/02.

[Tsubasa_cat !!otZqtLVzeXj No.827513]

Old 1992 video game FAQ is a good read.

https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en#!searchin/rec.games.video/rec.games.video|sort:relevance/rec.games.video/BrwssMVRMwI/x98SDbPpXv8J

Stuff like this:

>``I've heard of a 32 bit game system....''

>Various game systems have been rumored to be 32-bit, such as the as yet unrevealed Atari system. You can't just add the bits in the separate processors and get a meaningful number, though, so the Genesis CD-ROM is not a 32-bit system even though it has two 16-bit processors (Similarly, a Neo-Geo isn't a 24 bit system.)

[Anonymous No.827532]

>>827461
Oh.
So, how do I do it?

>>827513
I noticed these guys are hardcore as fuck. Only nerds talked about videogames back then.

[Anonymous No.827548]

where do they even come up with this shit?
what source of information beside magazines?

[Anonymous No.827556]

>>827548
Isn't most of it true? Nintendo did do these type of things back then.

[Anonymous No.827553]

>>827532

Example

before:1988/05/21 video games

or

after:1985/11/09 donkey kong

[Anonymous No.827565]

>>827556
i don't know, but i mean, where did he get all this info? it was fucking 1992 and this guy knows more than me 21 years later

https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en#!searchin/rec.games.video/rec.games.video%7Csort:relevance/rec.games.video/BrwssMVRMwI/x98SDbPpXv8J

just look at this shit
what the fuck

>>827553
thanks, but where do I put that?
I'm putting it on the search bar, but the best I can do is -again- 1993

[Anonymous No.827574]

>>827548

A lot of that shit is true, but one of the hallmarks of the by-gone days of the internet: people being more willing to buy unsubstantiated rumors. People were really gullible back then because information wasn't as readily available. Even as late as 2004 there were lots of rumors able to make the rounds. That's how shit like "MEW IS UNDER THE TRUCK" got started.

Now with Google and Youtube putting information at everybody's fingertips, you can't really get away with it.

[Anonymous No.827570]

>>827548
Every bit of that is true. Actually gave me a little nostalgia with the Game Genie one, I remember seeing it on the news when Nintendo lost.

The Nintendo of today is a bumbling joke compared to the ruthless Nintendo of the 80s and first half of the 90s.

[Anonymous No.827578]

>>827565

Just put it in the Google Groups search bar.

groups.google.com

[Anonymous No.827590]

>>827578
now it works. thanks. this is a fucking goldmine. i can't believe i'm reading this shit holy fuck.

but then again i'm super intrigued and fascinated about this motherfucker:

https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en#!searchin/rec.games.video/rec.games.video%7Csort:relevance/rec.games.video/BrwssMVRMwI/x98SDbPpXv8J

i just... what the fuck.
the guy even knows about japan-only hardware
i bet magazines didn't cover shit like this back then

[Anonymous No.827593]

>>827382
Google didn't "take over Usenet". Usenet is just a protocol, like E-Mail, and it still exists today (Although most of it is warez and spam nowadays, but there's still a lot of oldschool wargamers on the respective usenet groups).

However Deja News was the largest Usenet archive, Google bought it in 2001 and made it into Google groups, so that's what you're seeing there.

Unfortunately a lot of stuff was lost over time, but comp.sys.ibm.pc.games and comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.rpg have some good stuff from the early 90s.

[Anonymous No.827685]

>>827570
>The Nintendo of today is a bumbling joke compared to the ruthless Nintendo of the 80s and first half of the 90s.
Wait... isn't cutthroat business and anti-consumer rights practices part of the reason people hate Microsoft?

[Anonymous No.827701]

Usenet was fucking amazing before the summer that never ended.

Also, though, usenet is going to be missing a lot of what was happening, because the copy scene was really active on BBSes, not the Internet. And I'm pretty sure most of the emulator scene sprang out of those groups; the first ROM dumps were by people with copiers and were spread by BBS.

[Anonymous No.827709]

>>827574
I dunno man, there's a lot more fogies on the internet these days, conspiracy theories (or the modern solipsism that passes for them) are mainstream and Facebook forwards somehow manage to out-stupid even e-mail glurges.

I agree that it's easier to sort through the shit these days, but damn, so many people just... don't.

[Anonymous No.827729]

>>827685

Sure. Bear in mind that those qualities in a successful company are actually fantastic if you're invested in said company, even though they're fucking horrible for civil rights and other people in general.

[Anonymous No.827735]

>>827685
Pretty much. But no one cares because 1) Nintendo doesn't do it anymore, 2) nostalgia 3) A lot of people didn't know about it because information wasn't as easily accessible back then

[Anonymous No.827765]

>>827685
In the 80's people whined about how unfair and evil Japanese business practices were. These days it's less that they've relented, and more that every business behaves that way.

Rising Sun's a pretty unintentionally funny book that just keeps getting better with time.

[Anonymous No.827903]

>>827701
>Usenet was fucking amazing before the summer that never ended.

"Endless summer" is 4chan.

I think you meant "Eternal September".

This was September 1993 and it marked the day Usenet went mainstream and started to go rapidly downhill.

The problem was AOL began offering usenet to their subscribers starting in September 1993, and in 4chan terms this was a massive newfag invasion. It went from "my secret club" of mostly college educated people, some former BBS users, and they were instantly outnumbered by the newest of the new bandwagon jumping internet users with no computer skills whatsoever.

They had no concept of netiquette and in certain groups they quickly outnumbered and drowned out the locals. They were very demanding "GIVE PORN NOW!" and never shared anything in return (because they were new and had nothing to give). They wanted it all, and they demanded to be spoonfed.

It was especially bad because AOL at the time was a safe walled community. They were totally sheltered from the true internet. Usenet at the time contained many of the notoriously dark parts of the internet. Suddenly AOL kids found out about phreaking, CP, and everything else.

Imagine having the hottest nightclub in Harlem, full of great music, underworld dealings, and cheap drugs. Then suddenly 10,000 white kids form the suburbs come storming in and shout "HEY GUYS WHATS GOING ON IN HERE?" and then they never leave.... That was what "Eternal September" was all about.

[Anonymous No.827916]

>>827903
>I think you meant "Eternal September".
Woops Of course.. Too much exposure to the current idea of endless summer. Don't forget that September was always bad due to undergrads getting their first access to usenet, which is why that September was especially iconic.

[Anonymous No.828068]

>>827903
I didn't know about this Eternal September thing.
It even has a wikipedia article.
wow.

So what is usenet? Im simple words, please. Since when was Internet a thing in America? early 90s? or was it for rich-only people back then?

all of this is fascinating for me.

[Anonymous No.828101]

>>828068
>So what is usenet? Im simple words, please. Since when was Internet a thing in America? early 90s? or was it for rich-only people back then?

usenet was basically like a huge message board in the early days of the net.
I remember the internet really taking off around 95. by 96,97 most schools in the US had internet in their computer labs. by the time I graduated in 98 most middle class homes in the US had the internet.

[Anonymous No.828107]

>>827701

I've looked through some archives of usenet, the comments written there were ask.com level of intelligence

[Anonymous No.828127]

>>828068
This is probably mostly correct:

The Internet's foundation was ARPANET, a military network. Then universities and research institutes started building their own networks, which essentially became the Internet. So it was students and scientists who used the Internet, not rich people (all you needed for connectivity was a modem, and many people used those to connect to Bulletin Board Systems at the time). I don't know how the Internet was used privately at that time, but I suppose it wasn't used much.

In the early 90s the World Wide Web was developed, i.e. webpages. It was then that the Internet's explosive growth started.

Since you're probably going to ask about Bulletin Board Systems, they were basically servers that you connected to with a dialup modem. They had message boards, chat, games and downloads, but because they used phone lines for connectivity there was a severe limit on how many people could be on at the same time (you connected to them directly, there was no Internet operator or anything). I used two such systems in the mid-nineties.

[Anonymous No.828151]

>>827449
god... this has to be a troll...

[Anonymous No.828160]

>>828127
http://www.textfiles.com/directory.html

This site has an archive of text files from BBS', sorted by category. All kinds of stuff there, like information about SNES hardware and how to program for it. They didn't get that info from Google, that's for sure.

Reviews too of course, like:
>The graphic detail of ULTIMA VI rivals that of most games currently on the
market. Thanks to 256-color graphics, Britannia now looks like a real place.

>One might very well suspect our Russian comrades of ulterior motives in
releasing this game to the West, because its addictive properties were enough to
make my brother forgo his weekly fix of "L.A. Law" in an effort to beat my high
score. Quick fingers and a quick mind are required to succeed at TETRIS.

[Anonymous No.828164]

god, you people are too nice, if it was any other board this could would be told off by now and the thread reported and removed
also I'm pretty sure you guys are being trolled, no one is this nieve

[Anonymous No.828172]

>>828164
Well I suppose it could be a troll (like anything else), but there are people who don't know about this stuff. If you were born in, say, 1995, how would you be familiar with these things?

[Anonymous No.828179]

>>828160
>One might very well suspect our Russian comrades of ulterior motives in releasing this game to the West

oh god, I know that statement is tongue in cheek, but it reminds me of some stupid kid in highschool that thought videogames where a plot by japan and russia together (even thought this was after the cold war had ended and his view of japan was based on ww2) to get us complacent and addicted to something as they took over, sighting tetris of course

[Anonymous No.828183]

>>828172
look at the posting style, it's pretty obvious, it's in that exagerated overly excited style that people use when mocking "kids" from reddit

[Anonymous No.828184]

its also ashame that all the old gaming websites are gone, like all the geocities fanpages, happypuppy.com and nuke.com. i know there is a torrent that has all the geocities webpages, but if you were not there at that time then you will never know what it was like.

[Anonymous No.828187]

>>828184
>all the geocities fanpages
I thought some one archived all the content on geocities right before it went down for good a few years back

[Anonymous No.828192]

>>828187
They did. Japanese Geocities is still around too, I think.

>>828184
>if you were not there at that time then you will never know what it was like.

I think things are technically better now, what with all of the info and discussion now being centralized, but I greatly miss all of the little hole-in-the-wall websites and their shitty little chatrooms, and all the people I would come across in them. Having the variety was awesome.

[Anonymous No.828194]

i also miss all the rumors and bad photoshops of games, especially the MK rumors

[Anonymous No.828202]

>>828192
japanese geocities has different content than western geocities though

[Anonymous No.828207]

>>828194
>all the rumors and bad photoshops of games
/v/ and other game forums still do this though, look up Sims games rumors for example

[Anonymous No.828221]

>>828192
Websites were hand-made and unique then, whereas nowadays they're all slick and professional looking and running on Wordpress or some other homogenized platform, and are possibly owned by some conglomerate. Technically much better of course, but they have no soul. Even people's personal sites are like that.

This site's still keeping it real with its God-awful 90s/early 00s design: http://it-he.org/

[Anonymous No.828348]

>>828194
I loved the MK 2 Sub Zero polar bear animality picture that EGM posted as PROOF, while at the same time informing us that they received the image on a floppy disk.

[Anonymous No.829740]

>>828127
>>828160
Thanks m8!
>>828164
>>828151
Why the fuck do you think I'm a troll?
>>828172
This guy nailed it, because I was actually born in 1995.
>>828183
You are over-analyzing things. Not everyone is a troll. Yes, I'm excited about this because It's fascinating to me that people had something similar to the Internet and discussed music/games/whatever 30 years ago when this is a technology that started being standart in my country circa 2000. Even more when I thought that everyone was ignorant back then and it turns out they know more than the average retro gamer today.

[Anonymous No.829815]

>>827238
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/rec.games.video.classic

Set date filter for 1990 to maybe 1995. You can try setting the end-date for later years and stop when the posts seem to be nothing but ads. Usenet groups started to die around in the later 90s as lots of sites started popping up allowing anyone to create their own web forum or mailing list.

However that was classic/retro for it's time, so r.g.v.classic will be discussion for anything pre-NES. If you want to see NES, Genesis, etc you could try setting similar date filters for:
rec.games.video.sega
rec.games.video.nintendo
rec.games.video.arcade
maybe even rec.games.video.marketplace to see what people were buying and selling at the time.

In the 90s I know there were mailing lists for the NeoGeo and PC Engine, the latter went by the name Turbolist. I don't know if the posts were archived somewhere. I'm sure there was one dedicated to the 2600, if not classic games in general. Also the Stella mailing list, which was centered around 2600 development.

>>827378
There used to be a site called Dejanews which archived usenet, and they somehow managed to acquire archives going back to day 1 of Usenet. Google later bought Dejanews and folded it into their own Google Groups service.

[Anonymous No.829831]

>>827565
The internet populace back then was composed of
Academia: college professors/faculty, and students, usually just CS, engineering, and grad students.
Tech company people
People on the few public ISPs around.

Right there you weed out a lot of shit. People used their real names. Information was reliable.
Then fucking AOL http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eternal_September

And the FAQ maintainers weren't necessarily knowitalls, they did know a good amount to start things up, but everyone else was happy to fill in the gaps.

[Anonymous No.829838]

>>829831
I want that internet back
There has to be a better place then 4chan out there right

[Anonymous No.829839]

>>827903
me too!

[Anonymous No.829875]

You can look at gamespot or gamefaqs through archive.org's wayback machine.

[Anonymous No.830186]

>>829838
No, no it really wasn't. There were still plenty of elitist shitposters in newsgroups who didn't know shit, and would ALLCAPS without being able to back up their ludicrous claims. Here, being SO GODDAMN WRONG gets you laughed off the board.

Remember that as ever, not everybody who goes to college goes because they are intelligent or worked hard. Many have to be FORCED to attend! HAH!

[Anonymous No.830212]

Classic BBS post incoming.

[Anonymous No.830221]

>>830212
On this subject, has anybody here tried Digital Love Story? If you remember this era you should give it a look.

http://scoutshonour.com/digital/

[Anonymous No.830231]

>>827590
>The Japanese Super Mario 2 did not make it to the US. The US Super Mario 2
was a non-Mario Japanese game called "Dream Factory".
Im surprised they found out about Doki Doki Panic that early.

[Anonymous No.830254]

>>830221
I played that. It is okay.
>Dem dial up sounds

[Anonymous No.830263]

>>830231
I'm pretty sure even Nintendo Power mentioned that. It's not like such news was impossible to get. Magazines like Video Games and Computer Entertainment would often post "insider" stuff, because they weren't making the magazine for children. You would get opinions about the industry, specific companies, information about the development of specific games, and whatever random info the editors happened across.

[Anonymous No.830445]

>>830263
Even Nintendo Power did stuff like that. I still remember reading all about the memory mappers different NES games used in an issue of NP. It was basically a spin mag for Nintendo, but it did used to have interesting articles and whatnot, before turning into pure advertisement.

[Anonymous No.830515]

>>830212
that's what I'm talking about. Thanks!
could you tell me where did you get this?
>>829831
thx for the info m8. Kinda makes sense how everyone was savvy now that I know they were students of computer related majors.
>>829815
>somehow managed to acquire archives going back to day 1 of Usenet
that is fucking sweet. does that archive still exist on google? can i see post of usenet's day 1?
i'm still looking for posts related to the videogame crash of 83 someone mentioned above.
>>830231
There is so much cool shit on that thread. I really don't get where they got all the info.
>>830263
>>830445
I didn't know Nintendo Power was so adult-oriented. So that's how they did it? With magazines?
But then where did they get so much info about systems that were not popular in america like motherfucking PC Engine? I doubt any magazine covered that shit in depth.

[Anonymous No.830523]

>>830515
Think of it like this: magazines were gaming websites before gaming websites existed. They were aimed at a specific audience that was hungry for new information about a certain subject.

[Anonymous No.830530]

>>828179
Maybe his dad worked in the US motor industry.

[Anonymous No.830539]

http://www.odysseyofhyrule.com/zlog.htm

>I got the box and it was collector's edition, with foil embossed front cover and golden game. Like collector's edition actually means anything anymore

Some things never change.

[Anonymous No.830579]

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/rec.games.video/before$3A1994$2F01$2F01$20doom/rec.games.video/boQvaMZFrFQ/QsQx4Rop6RgJ

>video game goodies that should return
>games that focus more on original gameplay, instead of being Yet-Another-
Shooter or Yet-Another-Beat-Up-the-Ethnic-Minority title. Okay, so I'm
dreaming...
Gaming surely hasn't changed that much even after all these years.

[Anonymous No.830594]

>>830579
Gee, I'm just sitting around, thinking of video-game related goodies that
used to be around, but aren't any more. Stuff that disappeared after the end
of The Golden Age of Video Games (the Atari 2600 years, before Nintendo
became a household word, before "Seal of Approvals", before the collapse of
the home video game market, where gameplay meant a lot more than flashy
graphics and sound).

[Anonymous No.830598]

>>830594
What I miss are those old video game guidebooks that had no screenshots and
had drawings to describe the game instead. The writing in those books were
much wittier and intelligent than all these boring guide books for kids we
have these days.

[Anonymous No.830608]

>>830598
>all those guides giving artistic interpretations f=of what the objects in the game were

[Anonymous No.830616]

Back in the 90s I used the internet to look up game secrets and tricks, a lot of it were lies though. That gave old games an air of mystery and wonder like there was always something you didn't know.

Do games today even do this? I'm not trying to be a nostalgiafag bashing modern games but how many secrets are in The Last of Us?

I guess its because games back then were played with a different attitude than now, now its all about HD graphics and telling a story.

[Anonymous No.830626]

>>830616
I wouldn't put that kind of stuff on a serious/adult game such as The last of us anyway.
Also I get mad when people say that today's gaming "is all about graphics". Just look at how fucking obssesed some developers were with "next gen" stuff such as the Jaguar or the 3DO. It's always been like this. There are still many great games being produces today, if not more, than before. You just have to look at the right places.

For example, a game that is amazing and falls perfectly on your definition of gaming today is Shadow of the Colossus.

[Anonymous No.830628]

>>830616
am I the only one that is noticing how ironic it is that this could easily fit into the very converstions we are quoting here? just switch 90s to 80s and "used the internet" to "asked my friends"

[Anonymous No.830631]

>>830626
SOTC was 8 years ago.

[Anonymous No.830634]

>>830515
Its hard to imagine now that there was a time when game journalists did call themselves such. They were just people that really loved games and they would do research to find out more about games. Heck people when they'd take trips to Japan would gush about what games might be coming over like Mother 1. It was originally rumored to be coming to the west under the name Earthbound. Then there were people who translated Famitsu and couldn't understand that rpgs always topped Japanese lists.

[Anonymous No.830635]

>>827903
>>827916

It's funny how stuff like this has happened. I had no idea that this "Eternal September" was a thing, but it seems awfully similar to what happened when 4chan began protesting Scientology. Attention was drawn to the site by droves, first local newspapers, then magazines, then television. Newcomers flooded the site so hard that a ton of the social norms got very twisted around and it was painfully obvious who was a newfag and who wasn't.

then again everything was always shit

[Anonymous No.830639]

jeez, this really is like going through this site, looking through a thread about how game companies are now being forced to "police themselves" and it some how becomes a /pol/ like discussion of the Waco incident
Those brainwashed lunatics were apparently bothering no one, had
fewer guns per capita than the average Texian, and have been
systematically smeared by the feds since the massacre. Where are
all those machine guns that Koresh was supposed to have had? Even
if they melted a bit, the evidence of their existance would have
still been there. Why have the feds not presented them?

Whatever their excentricities or misbehaviors, the assault, by
armed men with a very questionable warrent by the forces of the
BATF was an arrogant abuse of power. The BATF wanted to impress
the new administration with its abilities, and screwed up.

Waco and the Weaver murders are the most well know examples of the
brownshirts that have been doing federal law enforcement in the
past few years.

[Anonymous No.830642]

>>830635
Eternal September is the entire internet at the moment. You can find small pockets of a consistent culture, but those will eventually be overran or fade out due to lack of activity.

[Anonymous No.830646]

>>830626
Yeah you're right, it was always about graphics. I remember BLAST PROCESSING against MODE SEVEN.

I remember how DKC was popular at first because of its nice pre-rendered graphics, like mortal kombat.

[Anonymous No.830654]

>>830642

I've been part of a splinter 4chan community for a long while. It's still active, but it's been kicked in the groin by internal drama. Two of the 'leaders' of the group had a fight, and the one that left took a ton of regulars with him.

Now most of the people left in the group are people that nobody really cared for in the first place. It's also been being taken over by infectious newcomers.

[Anonymous No.830657]

>>830635
actually, there was an influx of similar newcomers before the scientology thing, there was some kid that got lightly harassed by /b/ and then went whining to his local fox news affiliate, describing anonymous as internet terrorists and "hackers on steriods". This became viral on youtube and then next you know it every news organization just had to report of 4chan and the evil hacker group known as anonymous. You can all figure out what happened from there.

[Anonymous No.830658]

>>830616
>Do games today even do this?
Yeah. There are a few but usually you have to go for more obscure games that don't have a boatload of fans that document every little thing. Crystal Bearers is a treasure trove of secrets but since the game failed in the west and japan its very hard to just google the game and see a list of where everything is and how to do things. There are hidden bosses and areas and weird enemy combinations and such that very few people know about because most people just played through the story and didn`t bother to explore and experiment.

[Anonymous No.830659]

http://azureheights.com/

Somewhat dead, but still intact. It was the leading place for Pokemon Gen I research, but failed to keep up with the times.

[Anonymous No.830665]

>>830635
>>830642
>>830657
The moral of the story? Never let your internet groups grow beyond a few friends.

[Anonymous No.830670]

>>830657

Shit. I had forgotten about that incident. I had the whole "hackers on steroids" line running through my head as I typed out my post, but I must have attributed it to the Scientology incident.

That exploding fucking van.

[Anonymous No.830679]

>>827903
this explains why looking through the archives it suddenly goes from being "can I have help with this" and "selling such and such games, anyone interested?" to "fucking games of today r not like games of yesteryear, fucking fuck modern guidebooks and screen shots, I want my poorly drawn interpretations back"

[Anonymous No.830690]

>>830679
oh, I take that back, from 12/31/89
There are quite a few shitty games that HAVE the Nintendo seal of approval.
Who judges these things anyway? Most of the newer Nintendo games that I have
seen have bland, graphics that flicker horribly.. My 13 year old brother can
finish most of these games in 1 night. A very big disappointment....

Vic Ricker

[Anonymous No.830692]

>>830690
also, doesn't this, in a responding post, sound familiar
I think it is true that many of the 2600 games are better than
Nintendo because the designers had to really work to wring good
playable games out of the hardware.

[Anonymous No.830695]

Can you imagine seeing a best games of all time thread like this one today?
https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en#!searchin/rec.games.video/saga/rec.games.video/_SN0aGSHpqU/hZFUcOGedkMJ

[Anonymous No.830698]

>>830692
Some of the worst 2600 games are
attempts at arcade ports that the 2600 hardware just could cope with.
Anyway, I still like many of the old 2600 games, and I think they're
more playable than the bevy of "run around on a scrolling map, gather
things, and shoot bad guys" games on the Nintendo.

[Anonymous No.830706]

>>830695
no, because many more games have been released since then

[Anonymous No.830713]

>>830698
The thing that irks me the most is the "chop-sakki", as I think
I heard someone say it, symdrome. All of the games are the same
crap hashed over and over and over again. Bubble Bobble is the
only original game I've seen in quite some time now.
Don't believe me? Try renting Commando and Strider, both by
Capcom. They're almost identical! Still don't believe me?
Try renting Blaster Master and Fester's Quest, both by Sunsoft.
They're almost identical, too! Different game, same play-action.

I'm starting to agree with the guy who said that the Atari 2600
is the best game system ever because of all the original stuff
that came out for it because the hardware is soooooo crude.
Same thing with computer games played on dumb ascii terminals.
Display possibilities are so limited that people had to come up
with some real original ideas to make for good games.
Makes you stop and think....
Great game concepts, not necessarily great sound and graphics,
makes for really great games.

I'm just glad that you can rent Nintendo games so I don't have
to blow all of my money on crap games like I did for my
Colecovision.

[Anonymous No.830721]

>>830713
and here is a link to the entire thread
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/rec.games.video/before$3A1990$2F01$2F01/rec.games.video/nS3pXBEriio/LrBUFMiAygMJ

[Anonymous No.830726]

>>830616
Don't forget Demon's and Dark Souls. Those games were Secrets: The Adventure. Even the goddamn DLC was hidden behind a really cryptic puzzle.

[Anonymous No.830728]

>>830713
>play-action
Holy shit, that is so much more of a descriptive term than 'gameplay'

[Anonymous No.830772]

>>830728
Reading the diatribe in its entirety, are you surprised?

[Anonymous No.830782]

>>830713
>play-action
top lel

[Anonymous No.830786]

Shit, these guys have the nostalgia glasses on incredibly tight. The Atari 2600 had just as many "identical games" as the NES. In fact, there's quite a few 2600 games that are almost exact copies of each other, just with a different name and a slightly altered sprite or two, if even that.

Things never change, huh?

[Anonymous No.830837]

>>830713
>Different game, same play-action.
Future people are going to laugh at retarded, made-up non-terms like "metroidvania" just like we laugh at this silly shit.

[Anonymous No.830845]

>>830786
Let alone the fact that 2600 was completely worthless in general. Did it have even one worthwhile exclusive? All it had were horrible, barely playable arcade ports.

[Anonymous No.830850]

>>830515
>that is fucking sweet. does that archive still exist on google? can i see post of usenet's day 1?
You'll enjoy this: http://olduse.net/

[Anonymous No.830858]

>>830837
The popularity of the portmanteau is most likely due to the declining literacy rate with our ever-increasingly mass-media oriented society. Wut? People like mashup words because detailed descriptions make their heads hurt sum'n' awful.

>>830845
U suxx0r. Atari rox ur sox. Look up Tomcat, Wabbit, Midnight Magic, Solairis, Pitfall 2, Ms. Pac-Man... otherwise, your opinion is shit.

[Anonymous No.830862]

I remember someone linking posts made by Gabe Newell back when he worked at Microsoft and made posts on Google Groups.

[Anonymous No.830863]

>>830837
i wonder if there is an archive for 4chan posts
if so, greetings from Chile, random guy from 2067.

[Anonymous No.830871]

>>830863
There have been countless ones, though they tend to come and go. This is a newer one I found. I don't know how far it stretches back.

http://archive.foolz.us/

[Anonymous No.830883]

>>830871
it's too bad that an archive of 4chan's earliest days doesn't still exist, not counting that broken capture on archive.org

[Anonymous No.830880]

These books spread a lot of rumors, but at least they were mostly true; there was a knockoff series that was hilariously inaccurate. I recall "conserve ammo" being a tip for Contra for example. And they said that Ninja Gaiden meant "ninja telegram" and referred to Ryu getting a message in the opening cinematic. But once it's published, print is pretty inflexible.

[Anonymous No.830886]

>>830850
>always check 4chan links before entering
>old use on google
>olduse.com
>OLD USE is old mature porn...
>wow fuck you I almost fell for that one u piece of shit
>olduse.net
>.net
>oh
thx m8, this is great stuff
>>830862
this sounds very interesting

[Anonymous No.830893]

>>830858
>People like mashup words because detailed descriptions make their heads hurt sum'n' awful.
The genre is called action/adventure. "Metroidvania" is silly and imprecise.

[Anonymous No.830902]

>>830880

[Anonymous No.830904]

>>830862
>on Google Groups.
>tfw in a short time from now everyone will think usenet was named Google Groups and owned by google, despite predating google massivly

[Anonymous No.830907]

>>830902

[Anonymous No.830918]

>>830913

[Anonymous No.830913]

>>830907

[Anonymous No.830914]

>>830893
metroidvania is actually precise than action/adventure, as it's a very specific type of game within the action/adventure genre, where as action/adventure could also cover things like the zelda games and metal gear

[Anonymous No.830923]

>>830918

[Anonymous No.830924]

>>830913
this book reads like it was written by a 12 year old

[Anonymous No.830929]

>>830845
You don't like Dragonstomper?

[Anonymous No.830932]

>>830924
It was written FOR twelve year olds. Currently, anything written by someone who is twelve would be unreadable tripe.

[Anonymous No.830934]

>>830924
That's because it was written FOR 12 year olds, and the author obviously thought he was writing for the dumbest of them, too.

[Anonymous No.830935]

>>830923
do it

[Anonymous No.830940]

>>830923
no!
u won't be able to keep winning on nintendo games!

[Anonymous No.830949]

>>830913
>evaluating sound effects
>not even evaluating music
>saying they are worst than in the previous games
the fuck

[Anonymous No.830950]

>>830893
If you think metroidvania is bad try roguelike. People that use the term have never played rogue so they just assume it means any game that's randomly generated. I like that the japanese just call them dungeon rpgs at least then you know exactly what type of game people are talking about.

[Anonymous No.830978]

>>830950
then on other hand, you have the purists that think if it doesn't have a massively outdate interface and use computer bleeps for sound than it isn't a rougelike

[Anonymous No.830976]

>>830907
>Megaman II is a shmup

[Anonymous No.830991]

>>830893
>The genre is called action/adventure.

That's even more imprecise. I don't get why people are so against the term "metroidvania", it's just a specific distinction for a sub genre of games.

[Anonymous No.830996]

>>830991
>That's even more imprecise
You are wrong.
>I don't get why people are so against the term "metroidvania", it's just a specific distinction for a sub genre of games.
You are wrong.

[Anonymous No.831037]

>>830996
>you are wrong
>can't even say WHY the person is wrong, just that they are wrong

[Anonymous No.831051]

>>830893
Heh, when I read action/adventure I think something like Zelda or Secret of Evermore.

Side scrollers don't give off the same "air" of exploration or adventure. To me, anyway

[Anonymous No.831069]

>>831051
I think action/adventure is too vague, it could mean anything just like dungeon crawler. If everyone has a different definition for it than its completely useless.

[Anonymous No.831169]

>>830850
>>830850
unbelievable stuff...
reading a comment from 1983, "I cannot find fault with Carl Sagan's approach to getting Astronomy and the general history of science to the masses. The hype approach seems entirely appropriate for reaching people who see video games as the primary benefit of computer technology."

truly fascinating blast from the past!

[Anonymous No.831204]

>>830665
Is there not some threshold of users on [named] forums after which they begin to degrade?

I can't remember the exact number, but 200 unique users sounds familiar.

[Anonymous No.831365]

>>830658
On the other side of the coin, Lost Planet 2 has great obscurity through its horrid menu design. There was an entire set of extra game modes with exclusive vehicles and map layouts that I never even knew about due to never accessing it seriously/no one ever being online for them. This included some of the coolest/craziest VS, many of which themselves had Easter eggs within them. Honestly, Lost Planet 2 is a game that you can just keep on playing. Its greatest falter is that its only local multiplayer is 2-player co-op with horribly tiny screens. I suppose if you can get the PC version(s) then you could connect online forever there, so it could be a great LAN game.

LP2 is an example of modern games with just as much quality and depth as older titles, and it's sad that the folks who made it are so crazy and that the mastermind behind it has left for greener pastures.

[Anonymous No.831397]

>>830991
To be honest, it's my fault. I made a thread weeks ago asking why exactly the term 'metroidvania' came about, and asked if it wasn't possible to coin a more accurate term to describe its genre.

Unfortunately that thread spiraled horribly out of control and just became complete shitflinging all over the place until it was thankfully deleted by a moderator. Despite that nothing stays dead on 4chan, so I guess some people decided I was on to something and have gone with it.

I'd still be up for discussing it, but I don't want another horrible thread like the first time that I tried. I really don't want to experience another mess like that again.

sage for off-topic.

[RockMock64 !!nIsS0gPt3Wx No.831432]

>>830654
I actually frequented said group before things went full "fuzzy". Contact me via e-mail so you can stay in touch with the regulars.

[Anonymous No.831453]

>>831397
You know I bet we could influence a change in that name. I've never really liked metroidvania as a word to describe them. I don't like having to basically advertise other games in order to describe the one I'm talking about.

[Anonymous No.831496]

>>831453
I know that it could, but I also try to avoid talking about it because for some reason the topic turns people into shitheads.

Pretty weird how many parallels there are between these old posts and even the ones I see today on /vr/. 30 years later and the general idea of how people on the internet feel about games hasn't really changed.

[Anonymous No.831567]

>>831496
Very true.

More on topic; I wish I could have been around for these times. Honestly I would participate in an old style Internet forum or board of done sort.
I just got 9 old computers from the mid 90s that I'm gonna fix up a bit to run older games on. Would it be possible to set up an older message board system on an old dedicated box for it? If be willing to try hosting something like that. Itd be interesting to have something that could only be accessed with older hardware.

[Anonymous No.831581]

>* Games that focus more on original gameplay, instead of being Yet-Another-
>Shooter or Yet-Another-Beat-Up-the-Ethnic-Minority title. Okay, so I'm
>dreaming...

I wonder how many games actually fall outside of these two ideas. Tons of games boil down to these concepts at their most simplistic definitions, the only ones that really comes to mind for me is Animal Crossing and Aeroporter.

[Anonymous No.831596]

>>831567
I have no idea how you could actually verify that or anything. Only thing that comes to mind is forcing dial-up connection, as many modern computers don't even have dial-up modems from what I've seen.

[Anonymous No.831605]

Man looking through this shit (also other stuff non-videogame related) is very cool.

[Anonymous No.831635]

>>831596
>>831596
Well yeah I suppose it doesn't hate to be exclusively accessed from old systems but being able to be accessed by older hardware would still be cool. I know it'd pretty much impossible to visit a website if you we're running windows 3.1 or even probably 95 at this point.

[Anonymous No.831668]

>>831635
You'd have to heavily restrict the site in question to run properly on older devices. It'd be similar to writing a mobile version of a website today.

I didn't have a computer with internet until well after the retro cutoff, so I'm clearly unqualified to discuss such things. I remain intrigued though.

[Anonymous No.831768]

>>831365
I love Lost Planet 2 too but Inafune had next to nothing to do with it.
>I came up with the concept for the original Lost Planet and got involved quite a bit. However, regrettably, Lost Planet 2 was done by someone else and I didn't really have any direct involvement. I still believe in the franchise, and if we do more with it I will definitely get involved directly
http://shogungamer.com/news/keiji-inafune-comments-lost-planet-2-throws-his-team-under-bus-process

[Anonymous No.831807]

>>831668
Yeah I didn't have a computer with Internet access until well into the 2000s.

I was born in 89 so I missed the beginnings of the Internet. I also missed early AOL because my parents were lower income. I remember emailing through Juno free email when I was really little though.

[Anonymous No.831818]

I was born in 1984 but for various reasons I didn't get internet access until 2007, so I find all this fascinating.

[Anonymous No.831837]

>>831567
>>831596
>>831635
>>831668
jesus christ, I'm trying so hard not to get infuriated here, have you people never heard of telnet? it still works over the normal, non-dailup internet and supports making old style BBSes and works fine on old computer as well

[Anonymous No.831840]

>>831818
why did it took you so long m8?! And, yes, It's fascinating, indeed.

I also made a thread on /mu/ showing them what you teached me.
Some anons have fround pretty interesting stuff, so check it out:
>>/mu/37505650

[Anonymous No.831842]

>>831840
>>>/mu/37505650
whoops

[Anonymous No.831851]

https://groups.google.com/forum/m/#!forum/rec.games.video.misc

How do I filter results by date on this on my mobile phone? I'm using Google Chrome btw

[Anonymous No.831853]

>>831837
oh, and gophernet is still in operation as well if you want something more like the web
there is even a very rudimentary attempt to make an imageboard on it (though if I remember right you need to upload the images through telnet)

[Anonymous No.831874]

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!search/before$3A1998$2F12$2F30$20plumbers$20don$27t$20wear$20ties
man, even back then everyone hated the game.

I was expecting more obscure shit about the game though... It's a shame there is no info related to It's development. I'm geniuenely amazed by that game... I really don't understand.

Plumbers don't wear ties is fucking avant-garde.

[Anonymous No.831963]

Holy fucking shit, you're all so new to the internet.

>but I don't understand what this "google groups" thing is

Jesus fucking christ.

stay on your facebook you fuckin normals

[Anonymous No.832048]

>>831963
>proud user of the internet since early 90s
>must be 30+
what the fuck are you doing on 4chan
get the fuck out and be a family man, uncle

[Anonymous No.832128]

>How Pirate BBSs Impact on the Entire Atari Community

>The self-confessed pirate Troed says this about piracy:

>~ I NEVER buy a program without knowing if it is >what I ~
>~ want .. the ShareWare principle .. but how do I >check ~
>~ that with commercial software? By pirating them, >using ~
>~ them .. if I like them, I want the original + manual .. ~
>~ I buy it. ~
> -- Troed on the F-Net, ST Report Conference

>but contradicts himself a paragraph later:

>~ I bought my STe for $800 one year ago, if I were >to ~
>~ registre/buy [sic] all the soft I use I would have >to ~
>~ pay something around $10000 .. I can't afford >that. ~
> --Troed on the F-Net, ST Report Conference

>On the one hand, Troed insists that he merely tries >out his
>pirated software prior to purchase -- and buys it if he >wants it.
>But on the other hand, he _uses_ $10,000 worth of >commercial
>products and _cannot_ afford to pay for it. I would >concede that
>it is possible that some software thieves do use their >pirated
>downloads in the same way that honest people use >commercial demos
>and shareware...some, but not many.

I guess things don't change...

[Anonymous No.832142]

>>832048
From what I can tell, there are plenty of people over 30 here, especially on /vr/. This isn't Logan's Chan, motherfucker. (Also, I had Internet access since the late 80s/early 90s and yes I'm well over 30; not the same anon as above.)

[Anonymous No.832297]

You might be able to find some by searching around old geocities/reocities sites or archive.org
But search sites tend to be pretty shitty at finding them so you might need to get pretty specific to stumble upon it.

[Anonymous No.832363]

>>831768
Huh, my bad then. Who was calling the shots on LP2 then? Whoever they are, I need to follow them closely.

>>831807
We had a computer in '94, but my parents, in their combined technophobia and technological ineptitude, installed some program called NetNanny (something to stop your kids from accessing 'bad' sites I guess?) and then managed to forget the password, which as I understand it meant that no one could turn it off and thus actually allow 90% of the internet to be accessed. As such, the most I ever used it for was playing a few mid-late 90's Windows kids games, like Buzzy in Let's Explore the Airport (I never did master that luggage sorting game, I wonder how easy it is nowadays). I'm very much ankle-deep into computer games even now, generally only playing on them for emulation or for Doom.

>>831837
I couldn't get on the Internet reliably until the early 2000's, and even then I don't think I had even heard of a BBS, so no, I haven't heard of it. Thanks for the tip though.

[Anonymous No.832693]

>>830579
I'm one of the people in that thread...

[Anonymous No.833371]

>>832693
who

[Anonymous No.834398]

thread can't die

[Anonymous No.835430]

>>834398
I agree.

[Anonymous No.835894]

>>835430
do you still agree, 2 hours later?

[Anonymous No.835904]

>>835894
I know I agree. This thread is right for archiving.

[Anonymous No.835946]

For spanishfags la cueva de los clasicos.
It still has some users(most of them nostalgia fags, as long as i know i am the younger active member) and they are cool guys if you aren't an asshole.
except some of them, two of them are constantly in "this is the secret klub only for boys XD" state

[Anonymous No.836009]

>>832128
They should. Charging outrageous prices for what should be pretty much global-ware is fucking retarded. No we want to charge one third the world three thousand dollars to tally up enough money as a full-scale first nation economy.
Digital data should not cost more than pennies on the dollar. If you could convince one out of every hundred people who have internet access, 34% of the world to pay one dollar, you'd have 25 million dollars. Most software doesn't cost anywhere near that, even bloated costs of game development come to ~30 million. Convincing people to spend a single dollar is fairly trivial. Especially if it's a competitive product.
Having software even closer to 60 or even absurd 300/500-4000 dollar range is fucking stupid. When a thing costs nothing to produce and you charge equal amounts or even upwards of hundred times worth shit that actually costs to make you start breaking economical foundations built around trade goods with shit that isn't actually trade goods.

[Anonymous No.836043]

>>827513
>You can't just add the bits in the separate processors and get a meaningful number, though, so the Genesis CD-ROM is not a 32-bit system even though it has two 16-bit processors (Similarly, a Neo-Geo isn't a 24 bit system.)

Hilariously enough, this is what Atari did to claim that the Jaguar was a 64 bit system when it was actually two 32 bit processors. Do the math motherfuckers.

[Anonymous No.836073]

I actually saw a discussion from around 1980 where people were speculating that George Lucas' new movie "Blue Harvest" was actually a codeword for Return of the Jedi. I'll be fucked if I can find it, but it was REALLY cool.

[Anonymous No.836078]

>>832142
I think he was more or less insulting him for picking on people for not knowing things when a lot of the people on this site are young actually and not insulting him simply for being "old"

[Anonymous No.836124]

>>832363
to be honest, I guess I shouldn't expect everyone to have heard of this stuff, at least if you don't play things like MUDS and the like, I have an interest in internet history and like using old archiac parts of the internet, I even contemplated starting a gopher music blog to circumvent having links taken down at one point.

[Anonymous No.836126]

Reading this thread is cool but makes me feel sad, like I've missed out on the 'wild west' days of the internet.

I'm pretty young (20) so I never got to really experience even the growth of the web (besides my dad showing me how neat google was in 1999) but I really do have a genuine interest in the days of old.

And also, to the oldfags going "HURR GTFO KIDS HOW DARE U NOT UNDERSTANDDDD", go fuck yourselves, you should be happy kids are taking interest in this shit so it lives on in memory somehow.

[Anonymous No.836141]

>>836126
Oh, I'm absolutely thrilled shitposting manchildren like you deign to grace us with their presence.

[Anonymous No.836146]

>>836141
Wh-what?

[Anonymous No.836153]

>>836141
>some one makes a perfectly fine and nicely written posts
>calls them a shitposter while shitposting themselves

[Chinese-SKS Doll No.836241]

>>836141

[Anonymous No.836397]

>>835894
Yes I still agree few hours later.
I also agree we should archive this.

[Anonymous No.836491]

>>836126
>(besides my dad showing me how neat google was in 1999)
By that do you mean how clean it's front page was? Because google wasn't the first search engine by a long shot. The only real thing it did was get rid of a lot of clutter that started hamming up shit like yahoo and sites. It also developed a better algorithm.

[Anonymous No.838798]

>>836491
Google wasn't the first, but it gave relevant results. Prior automated search engines ranked results by keywords in the text or metadata. This meant web pages with "sex sex sex sex sex sex sex sex sex sex sex sex sex sex sex sex sex sex sex sex" somewhere in its html. Google made it possible to for you to find a relevant page that doesn't actually use the word you searched on.

[Anonymous No.838838]

>>836491
>It also developed a better algorithm.
This was a big deal, it is why I started using Google. I dont know the technical details, but you could tell it gave you less bullshit with each search.

[Anonymous No.838865]

>>838798
Until they removed the '+' operator so they could have their own facebook and tanked their own search results.

[Anonymous No.839443]

>>827064
Having been alive then, the answer is simple.. just open a gaming magazine then, look at picks of arcades.. 90s nick etc.. thats pretty much all there is to it. Other than school life being different, its the same.

[Anonymous No.839458]

>>827360
Man you people astound me.. google groups is just a front end.. it is USENET which is a bbs system that has been around since 79 or something.. durring the golden age of gaming it was the only internet bbs that people posted on.. so you are going to get all athentic posts by date.. nothing to weed out.

[Anonymous No.839461]

>>836491
This.

Also, a lot of people didn't catch on to Google until maybe 2002 or so. Lots of people I knew used Dogpile, Hotbot, Ask Jeeves, Yahoo, etc., especially in combination with one another because often one would give different results than another. It's not like now where Google is tapped in to every single possible facet of the internet.

And does anyone else remember when Yahoo used to be relevant as fuck? They used to be the Google-like internet powerhouse of the 90s. It's amazing how far they've fallen.

[Anonymous No.839484]

>>839461
Shit, I used to use LYCOS before it had its own domain name. Wasn't it on lysator or something?

[Anonymous No.839501]

>>839484
The name Alta Vista just popped into my head for the first time in years, damn.

[Anonymous No.839502]

>>839484

I don't remember.. wasn't it partnered with Xoom or bought them out something?

>go to look up more stuff on Lycos
>"Lycos is your source for all the Web has to offer - search, free online games, e-mail, build free websites, videos & movies, news, weather and more."

It's amazing to think that somewhere out there, there are still people who don't use Google.

[Anonymous No.839508]

>>839461
Yahoo may not be the darling of the internet any more, but I'd stop short of saying they've fallen. How many sites from that era are still around?

[Anonymous No.839523]

>>839501
They're still around.
http://www.altavista.com/

Though they were ultimately acquired by and returns Yahoo results.

[Anonymous No.839530]

>>839502
I've seen DuckDuckGo getting popular in some circles because they don't trust giving Google their information.

[Anonymous No.839539]

>>827228
>http://www.odysseyofhyrule.com/
In elementary school I used to print pictures from this site and glue them to my folders. How is it still up?

[Anonymous No.839545]

>>839530
So their ads are working? I noticed they are literally the only ones I see on 4chan lately.

[Anonymous No.839635]

>>839461
There are people still using ICQ.

Dat UH-OH.wav whenever a message came in.

[Anonymous No.839673]

Not related to vidya, but still
http://www.unsolvedmysteries.com/usm6064.html
this is awesome

[Anonymous No.839694]

>>839673
Did it?

--
Sent via Saturn relay 113N75J.

[Anonymous No.839749]

>>839694
yes

[Anonymous No.839754]

>>839443
>school life being different

I assume because of the lack of cellphones and columbine?

[Anonymous No.839787]

>>831837
>using telnet for anything except MUDs

[Anonymous No.839824]

>>831837
>implying Renegade has telnet support
>implying any BBS that doesn't run Renegade is worth pissing on

[Anonymous No.842453]

>>832693
How old do you feel anon?

[Princess Sevenleaf !AnVbXjgZco No.844257]

>>830907
>the Noun Verber, for verbing (you guessed it!) nouns!
>(you guessed it!)

I hate it when people do this, is it supposed to be funny?

[Princess Sevenleaf !AnVbXjgZco No.844264]

>>830949
>tougher than first game
>worse graphics than first game