/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.8257867]

Has anyone here gotten one of these things yet, and done a teardown of it?

[Anonymous No.8257872]

They don't ship out until October 25th, it will be a few days until anybody gets one

[Anonymous No.8257876]

>>8257872
Oh fuck me then

[Anonymous No.8257892]

>>8257867
Looks like shit, why does it have three prongs?

[Anonymous No.8257912]

The mega drive three button controller for the nintendo price is a fucking joke.
I have an original japanese / Small European 6 button Mega Drive gamepad that has a 8bitdo PCB inside it. More buttons, compatible with switch and three other modes, cost third of that.
FC30 or NES30 - 20 to 30 bucks, negatives or positives depending on user is more buttons. Also Switch plus three other platforms compatible.
And 8bitdo hasn't had like million SNES pads already.

Whole fucking nintendo online retro shilling is disgustingly Jewish and I am glad I rather have banned switch that has like 400 NES/Famicom games 200 Genesis games 15 N64 games and 100 SNES games while nintendo tries to shill out money from others for far less than that.

But I cannot play Turtles in time online sucks to be me I have to take my switch over to someone's place to do that what a bummer.

[Anonymous No.8257957]

>>8257912
Stick to the topic, retard.

[Anonymous No.8257967]

>>8257957
Don't try to silence him Janny Jr. Nintendo's retro pricing is shit

[Anonymous No.8257974]

>>8257967
You fags will buy it anyway.

[Anonymous No.8258002]

>>8257867
I cant even pre order one, theyre sold out.

[Anonymous No.8258006]

>>8257974
>After post about how buying them is retarded and jewing an alternative chink company

[Anonymous No.8258028]

Can't you use a n64 controller adapter on the switch? If so, it could save me loads of money. Anyone have any experience with it?

[Anonymous No.8258050]

>>8257912
>>8257974
>>8258028
we're buying it for this

[Anonymous No.8258080]

>>8258050
>buying it before seeing any teardown

enjoy your joycon mechanism that will drift in a week

[Anonymous No.8258091]

>>8258050
You could get a $12 adapter and plug your n64 controllers into it. Probably better that way.

[Anonymous No.8258163]

>>8258080
didnt buy it yet :3
>>8258091
nope, n64 controllers are old!! replacements arent as good despite what shills will tell you

[Anonymous No.8258469]

>>8257867
Imagine paying for this fucking shit.
God i hate zoomers.

[Anonymous No.8258474]

>>8258163
you are so, so wrong and seemingly quite stupid as well. I wish you the best

[Anonymous No.8258482]

>>8258469
Enjoy your loose analogues or your poorly made chinkshit replacements, faggot.

[Anonymous No.8258495]

>>8258163
Retard

[Anonymous No.8258543]

>>8258482
Not him but I play my N64 games on original hardware or OpenEmu with a DS4.

[Anonymous No.8258553]

>>8258543
I'm a big emu boy too but playing N64 games with PS or Xbox styled controllers is always god awful. I tried out Rakugakids and I simply couldn't wrap my mind around the controls with the C buttons bound to the right analogues.

[Anonymous No.8259417]

>>8258474
>>8258495
not him but he's absolutely correct, replacement N64 sticks are fucking garbage and you two are actually retarded if you can't see that they're worse than OEM Nintendo parts.

[Anonymous No.8259423]

>>8259417
I've gotten lucky with all of my controllers and none of the sticks are worn enough to warrant replacing yet. Mostly I just wanted to call that anon stupid for ordering the new controller and hell while am at it: you suck too, bitch

[Anonymous No.8259425]

>>8259423
you can go fuck yourself, faggot

[Anonymous No.8259427]

>>8259425
ok :3

[Anonymous No.8259484]

>>8259427
I feel bad for you

[Anonymous No.8259498]

>>8257892
You're too retarded for the answer.

[Anonymous No.8259579]

>>8258050
Enjoy your Jesus Christ hands.

[Anonymous No.8259820]

>>8257912
It's bullshit but it's not "Jewish," Nazi.

[Anonymous No.8259825]

>>8257892
>was born after the year 2002

[Anonymous No.8259837]

>>8259417
OK, so what should people do instead of replacing the stick which is bound to wear out? The only other options are to try your luck purchasing another used controller which could easily be at least as worn out, or buying a third-party controller. (which isn't a bad idea if you get a new one like Brawler64 from Retro Fighters, which is good quality and similar to a Gamecube controller but with a far better D-Pad and proper C-Buttons.)

No one's paying $400+ for a new untouched official N64 controller. It makes perfect sense to replace the analog sticks and fuming with hot gas at people who do so by blaming them for the fact that the replacement analog sticks aren't as good as they could be makes zero sense and makes you sound asocial.

[Anonymous No.8259872]

>>8257892

ayy lmao, he doesnt have tri glenohumeral hypocotyltentril interfaces, i bet you only have two eyes like some kind of primative too.

[Anonymous No.8259912]

>>8258469
I bought it. Stop being poor.
Nintendo is gonna sit back and find out how much of the playerbase is overly vocal poorfags and adjust from there.

[Anonymous No.8259968]

>>8259837
You can buy replacement gears for the analog sticks. Whenever mine start to get too loose that's what I plan on doing about it

[Anonymous No.8259978]

>>8257957
He was on topic, he just got a bit passionate about it and he does make a fair point. Stick a Nintendo badge on it, sell it for 4x the price, step 4 - profit

[Anonymous No.8259981]

>>8258482
What if you were careful with your purchases and have sourced 4 controllers with decent sticks? They cost me around a tenner each

[Anonymous No.8259985]

>>8258553
Lol, have you not played on a gamecube before?

[Anonymous No.8259990]

>>8259981
The N64 analog literally grinds itself down with use, if you actually believe they'll last then they're probably sitting on your shelf.

[Anonymous No.8259993]

>>8259990
I never said they would last forever I'm just saying if you are careful and buy right then they will last you many years. I've had mine for almost 10 years now and no wobble. As the other anon says you can buy replacement gears, as long as you know how to use a screwdriver you should be fine

[Anonymous No.8259995]

>>8259981
This. It's not even that hard to do. I bought all of mine off eBay for roughly that price per controller and they're all in great shape. The only one I have that's loose is the one that came packed in with my console, and even then it isn't at an unplayable level of looseness.

[Anonymous No.8260125]

>>8257892
It's a prototype proof-of-concept that was accidentally released instead of the final production model.

[Anonymous No.8260593]

>>8257867
Judging by my knowledge about Nintendo. The stick will still be based on its original bad design.

[Anonymous No.8260621]

Man, went to order one but 65 bucks after shipping can get fucked

[Anonymous No.8260695]

>>8260621
When did you get to it to see it in stock. By the time I learned they went up for sale it was already gone

[Anonymous No.8260697]

>>8260695
Popped up on Twitter, they were in stock for almost an hour I'd say. If it was under 50 shipped I would have jumped but for 65? With unknown quality? Nahh I'll pass.

[Anonymous No.8260698]

>>8259820
It is jewish, rabbi.

[Anonymous No.8260702]

>>8259820
>>8260698
can you boys go do this somewhere else

[Anonymous No.8261010]

>>8259912
I have a perfectly good 64 system and 4 controllers that all work well. Why would i buy this fucking garbage lol
You bought it because you are a zoomer and a faggot with MUH NOSTALGIA that you weren't even around for.

[Anonymous No.8261025]

>>8261010
not him, but I was around for it, and all of my sticks are worn out/not perfect despite greasing and gear/bowl replacements.
you gotta be lucky to find an acceptable n64 stick.
if these turn out to be legit, I will happily pay the price that you would have paid in 1996 with some added bluetooth functionality.
And don't act like people are actually buying the reseller listings on ebay because if they are theyre fools. Nintendo will be regularly supporting and stocking N64 controllers as long as switch online is in service.
tl;dr stop being poor

[Anonymous No.8261134]

>>8257892
They didn't really know how people were going to want to interface with analog controls so they assumed that D-Pad based input and Analog Stick based inputs would be completely mutually exclusive, so it's designed to only be held by two of the three prongs with the idea that you just won't have any use for the unused prong.
Of course once people were more used to analog sticks it became apparent that you'd want to be able to easily access both the stick and the d-pad so you can use the d-pad as a secondary set of inputs and click down the stick for yet more input options.

[Anonymous No.8261138]

>>8261134
n64 stick didnt click doe

[Anonymous No.8261143]

>>8261134
>>8261138
nvm I misread what you were saying.
pretty based explanation of it all, n64 controller's issues are in button placement, not ergonomics like most people suggest

[Anonymous No.8261147]

>>8261143
What's wrong with the button placement?

[Anonymous No.8261149]

>>8261147
not as in where the buttons you use are placed, but the fact that when you're playing ocarina of time you pretty much dont use 5 potential buttons

[Anonymous No.8261150]

>>8261134
Did any games use the middle style?

[Anonymous No.8261151]

>>8261149

[Anonymous No.8261153]

>>8261150
I believe there are a few minigames in the pokemon stadium games where you use the d-pad to aim and then flick the stick to throw.

[Anonymous No.8261156]

>>8261151

[Anonymous No.8261157]

>>8261156
That's Twilight Princess

[Anonymous No.8261159]

>>8261157
r u trolling me?~ ;)

[Anonymous No.8261181]

>>8257892
can't you read the box? fucking niggers

[Anonymous No.8261245]

>>8261025
>tl;dr stop being poor
Says the fag who emulates

[Anonymous No.8261279]

>>8257872
Yeah this guy is right.

Apparently I'll get mine on Tuesday or Wednesday.

[Anonymous No.8261442]

>>8258050
Why? The n64 had the worst stick.

[Anonymous No.8261546]

>>8261025
Retard

[Anonymous No.8261548]

>>8261134
The fact that this post even needs to be made is embarrassing.

[Anonymous No.8261981]

>>8261548
To be fair, the dualshock established the one dualstick format that serves as the template for basically every analog controller from then so early on enough it's hard to even conceive of a time how an analog controller should be layed out wasn't a already solved situation.
They probably don't even realize the playstation controller didn't come with those sticks out the gate and they were invented later.

[Anonymous No.8262614]

So you can buy these with just a month of normal tier NSO even though they'll only work with the N64 app? I might pick one up down the line then.

[Anonymous No.8262615]

>>8262614
do they seriously only work with the app specifically

[Anonymous No.8262825]

How does N64 games play with a gamecube controller?

[Anonymous No.8264141]

I'm Wondering if the controller does have an authentic analog stick module, then you can take it out and put it into a real n64 controller and run the benchmark test to see if it's 1:1 with the original.

[Anonymous No.8264143]

>>8262825
Terrible, it has a completely different gate and sensitivity

[Anonymous No.8264439]

>>8257876
>are you fucking with Wii U are gonna get cut boy
wii u controller could hide a .45 honestly

[Anonymous No.8265119]

>>8259912
I'm consooming!!!!1

[Anonymous No.8265142]

>>8265119
>loveforlandlords
I hope that's sarcastic. They are nothing but leeches that provide no value.

[Anonymous No.8265275]

>>8265142
You have to be eighteen years or older to post on 4channel.org

[Anonymous No.8265342]

>>8265275
>I deserve to make money by sitting on my ass because I have money
>how did I get that money? by sitting on my ass of course
are landlords just giga neets?

[Anonymous No.8265352]

>>8258050
The ironic thing is that this release is going to cause reproductions. Effectively good ones.

[Anonymous No.8265356]

>>8265342
I'm also a Maxist that hates landlords anon, I am trying to tell you that I found your post annoying

[Anonymous No.8265362]

>>8265342
I'm also a Marxist that hates landlords anon, I am trying to tell you that I found your post annoying

[Anonymous No.8266245]

Since Nintendo has made no communication I guess the N64 controller will not work for Mario 3D All Stars ?

[Anonymous No.8266307]

>>8266245
Its a regular switch controller. It will work in literally any switch game.

[Anonymous No.8266443]

>>8266307
Really ? I thought the nes/snes controller were only compatible for the retro online games.

[Anonymous No.8266451]

>>8257867
An n64 controller with a usb port

You really need a tear down for this!?

[Anonymous No.8267037]

>>8265342
Don't hate the player, hate the game. Except don't hate the game, because that'd make you a commie, and commies all deserve to die.

[Anonymous No.8267052]

>>8266443
I think barring missing sticks or buttons any controller you can connect to the Switch should work with any game. I played a little bit of Dark Souls with a GameCube controller, for instance

[Anonymous No.8268479]

>>8266443
Yeah, the switch is really cool with all of its controllers, it handles them all on the firmware level so you are free to try and use them to play whatever you want.
You just have to be able to deal with the missing buttons.

[Anonymous No.8268792]

>>8268479
Can you use say a snes to USB adaptor on a switch so you can use your original snes controllers on the console?

[Anonymous No.8268806]

>>8261181
based protestors, property is more important than people
if the government want people to stop breaking shit then actually reform
mob justice like this should be more widespread

[Anonymous No.8268815]

>>8265142
>>8265342
>live in America, apparently the greatest country
>still have to pay for health insurance and
housing
Bros...?

[Anonymous No.8268819]

>>8265142
You may have an opinion when you have your own land. For now be quiet.

[Anonymous No.8268856]

>>8268819
while the post was cringe, that anon is still right. I own the home I live in, good day.

[Anonymous No.8268860]

>>8268819
>"don't worry about it everything is fine"
>the thing not to worry about: you being horribly poor
>the only reason why you're worrying about it: millionaires are specifically trying to keep you poor through overpriced housing

[Anonymous No.8268891]

>>8268806
Anon have you considered that the state televised (and probably coordinated) this property damage to sow further discord among the working class and ratchet the racial tension here up even higher than it already was. Had you considered that you fucking diaper baby.

>>8268860
>>8268815
This board is about retro games man! I can tell from the way you're typing about this that you aren't even close to struggling. Go do something useful with this angst.

[Anonymous No.8269081]

>>8257957
shut the fuck up faggot

[Anonymous No.8269121]

>>8268792
Yes, if you have CFW

[Anonymous No.8269154]

>>8269121
Thanks anon!

[Anonymous No.8269160]

>>8257867
I kind of like the idea of a wireless N64 controller but I'm not sure I'm down for $50.

[Anonymous No.8269276]

>>8257867
No teardown yet but there's a hands-on now.

https://www.vooks.net/hands-on-with-the-nintendo-64-controller-for-nintendo-switch/

[Anonymous No.8271048]

>>8265342
>save your money and keep good credit enough to afford property
>renovate shitty property that previous poor retards fucked up
>-rent to other poor retards who will destroy your property
>have to deal with said poor retards' bullshit
weird how being a landlord is so easy yet no commie retard is able to pull it off

[Anonymous No.8271059]

>>8269276
is it just me or is the gate shaped wrongly? Looks more like a perfect octagon instead of being mostly square like the original gate.

[Anonymous No.8271551]

>>8271059
Gate looks the same. Stick looks real chink.

[Anonymous No.8271657]

>>8257892
Pretty good bait, kind of subtle. 6/10, maybe even a 7.

[Anonymous No.8271659]

>>8271657
You replied so it's a 10 as far as you're concerned. Idiot.

[Anonymous No.8271714]

>>8257892
because of the three persons of the holy trinity

[Anonymous No.8271751]

This guy took the back off.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OhRu53KRd8s
The connector on the stick isn't the same. It won't be an easily swappable thing.
I want to see someone open the stick next.

[Anonymous No.8271829]

>>8268891
Based 4chan poster. God bless your poor soul talking to the retards though.

[Anonymous No.8271835]

>>8271829
I can't help it. I have good faith disease and it is terminal

[Anonymous No.8271843]

>>8259968
The replacement gears are poorly molded and made from shit quality plastic. They also do nothing to repair the bowl and joystick. When your N64 controllers get loose you're fucked.

[Anonymous No.8272159]

>>8271843
You can also get replacement joysticks and bowls
Got some for my N64 controllers, plus some plastic lube and they feel awesome

[Anonymous No.8272169]

>>8268815
You're forced to pay for your (and others') health insurance, you mong. Plus, your government owns your medical information, unlike in America, so eat the bugs and take your 40th booster.

[Anonymous No.8272198]

>>8271751
based on this guy's video it seems like a replacement stick should drop right in. The real question is if we're going to be able to source the same parts Nintendo is using in these repros.
I would purchase one of these for PC emulation if Nintendo didn't paywall them behind their dumb subscription service

[Anonymous No.8272205]

>>8272198
oh jesus I'm an idiot and missed the post I'm replying to. The new stick connector looks like a flex cable vs a molex in the originals. Probably just due to flex cables being the norm but I would be surprised if they actually function differently.

[Anonymous No.8272380]

I genuinely can't wait for mine to arrive. I was able to order 2. hoping they arrive by the end of the week.

[Anonymous No.8272389]

>>8271843
I appreciate the heads up. I was already a little skeptical of the kitsch-bent ones since the listing itself says you may have to trim some flashing from the gears.
>>8272159
Where's a good place to buy these? I'm lucky enough to have 4 good controllers but I'm sure I'll need those eventually

[Anonymous No.8272392]

>>8272389
If you keep your good controllers lubricated, I don't see why you would need them.

[Anonymous No.8272398]

>>8272392
Good to know. Thanks, anon

[Anonymous No.8272494]

>>8272389
kitsch-bent is fine, the others are talking shit. the only flash i had to trim was the slot the optical wheels sit in on the sides of the bowl. just get some silicon grease and the parts work wonders. stick feels closest to new you could hope to get

[Anonymous No.8272983]

So when's 8bitdo gonna make a wireless receiver for the N64? I have no reason to buy this otherwise.

[Anonymous No.8273015]

>>8272983
I don't think a wireless receiver would work for the N64 because of the controller accessories.

[Anonymous No.8273023]

>>8273015
We already have wireless n64 controllers though. Who told you otherwise?

[Anonymous No.8273031]

>>8273015
I'm wondering if they could find some sort of workaround. Like have some tiny onboard processor attached to a storage device that's able to mimic as a memory pak.

[Anonymous No.8273051]

>>8273031
There are already wireless N64 controllers with receivers that just have the accessory port built into the dongle. A receiver for the NSO controller could just do that.

[Anonymous No.8273059]

>>8273031
Tribute64 already does memory card and rumble. Transfer pack won't work though.

[Anonymous No.8273086]

>>8273059
>Transfer pack won't work though.

Never understood this. I don't think I've ever put anything other than a transfer pack into an N64 controller, why the hell would you not support it?

[Anonymous No.8273103]

>>8273086
Probably because they don't have the technological means or it would vastly increase production costs to an unreasonable level for a feature for literally only 4% of all n64 games

[Anonymous No.8273117]

>>8257892
>he only has 2 hands

[Anonymous No.8273150]

>>8273059
How's the lag on these? I've never trusted retrobit's products but it's been a while.
8bitdo's genesis receivers have been almost completely unnoticeable for me (And that might even just be my personal bias), and I'm using a CRT.

[Anonymous No.8273172]

>>8271751
FUCKING PUSSY!
Why don't these people just gut the whole thing open instead of half-assing it?!

[Anonymous No.8273228]

>>8273117
4th hand is for jacking

[Anonymous No.8273247]

>>8265142
>>8265342
>>8265362
>Gen Zggers outing themselves this blatantly
Don't you have a fratboi grifter stream to be watching? Pls go and stay go, you lil' larpers.

[Anonymous No.8273314]

>>8273228
And you have three hands free to use all the buttons on the N64 controller, it's genius!

[Anonymous No.8273380]

>>8272159
>You can also get replacement joysticks and bowls
From where? Only Kitsch-bent sells replacement bowls and sticks as far as I know and they're awful. Steelsticks aren't a very affordable option and ProStick64 is currently vaporware.

>>8272494
>kitsch-bent is fine
No they aren't. Kitsch-bent parts are equal to an OEM stick in 5/10 condition. 6.5/10 if you work your ass off to fix them.

[Anonymous No.8273745]

How should I breast care for the controller when I get it? Should I open it and apply grease, or will it be fine as long as I’m not rough with it

[Anonymous No.8273754]

>>8273745
You definitely want some apple grease on those breasts

[Anonymous No.8274295]

same general design but it turns pots instead of optical sensor wheels

[Anonymous No.8274337]

>>8273380
seconding this
as soon as I tried the parts from that place I knew it was hopeless and immediately ordered two new-old-stock controllers.
They'll never be able to make them properly again. I bet this new official one will suck too.

[Anonymous No.8274605]

>>8273023
do they work with all the packs?

[Anonymous No.8275305]

>>8274295
The stick/gears look to be the same as the original, they don't look to be lubricated though, so I guess everyone should open it to lubricate.

[Anonymous No.8275313]

>>8275305
I took a better look at the original tweet. Maybe you don't even need to change the gears if you want to play with it in a original N64 controller, the plug seems to be same, all you need to do is to swap the the whole stick box.

[Anonymous No.8275316]

>>8275305
>they don't look to be lubricated though,
it's tough to say from that photo. Original N64 sticks didn't have the bowl lubricated, but the slots on top of the bowl the gear assemblies sit on were, in fact, lubricated. From the look of that photo, those areas look shinier than the rest of the plastic, so I'm assuming at least those are lubricated.

[Anonymous No.8275320]

>>8275316
Yeah, I noticed that too, but it's mostly the stick base, the gears and the bowl that wears down. It's something to keep a look. Also, the gears are slightly different from a closer look. I hope that the whole sticker box is as good as the original, so we won't need to go hunting for good replacement parts.

[Anonymous No.8275323]

>>8275320
From what I'm seeing I don't assume that most of these parts are going to be easy drop in replacements, unfortunately.

[Anonymous No.8275328]

>>8273150
I can't speak for the wireless one or the input lag but the wired one is OK for the price. The stick is more sensitive and the gate is different, but if you just want some Mario Party or Mario Kart beaters it's hard to go wrong with the Tribute64. It compares favorably to the Hori mini pads in sensitivity, the deadzones seem to be about the same as well. The feel of the buttons and plastic are overall cheaper though. Really not sure I'd recommend the more expensive wireless version.

[Anonymous No.8275334]

>>8275305
>>8275313
>>8275320
>>8275323

You are correct, I just checked more pictures on that tweet. The gears seems to be close, but they have small studs that connects into the potentiometers, so they are different, maybe we could use them, but we'd need to adapt the studs, maybe removing them.

Also, we can not swap the stick box, they have different plugs apparently, the original has 6 wires, this one has 4. Maybe with an adapter? At this point it's best to keep buying from Kitsch-Bent. I mean, we are not paying $50 for some gears. The N64 Gears (https://www.n64gears.com) + Kitsch Bent stick + bowl is considered to be a good combination.

[Anonymous No.8275387]

>>8258050
It's not gonna use a optic sensor if that's what you are hoping for. That's outdated tech prone to failure without any means of auto-calibration(something the switch relies on) and a very low precision rate(literally dependent on number of notches on a plastic wheel that gets grinded down with every move)

[Anonymous No.8277026]

>>8273380
youre retarded

[Anonymous No.8277148]

>>8275387
the optical sensor is the one part of the N64 controller that DOESN'T break, what are you talking about? The loss of precision common in N64 controllers is the result of the channel in the gear pieces (the parts that are identical in the NSO controller) wearing down from use. The only difference between an N64 controller and an NSO controller is that the gears are turning a pot instead of the sensor wheel.

[Anonymous No.8277408]

Any chance this will be Wii or Wii U compatible in the near or far future?

[Anonymous No.8278369]

>>8277148
>the optical sensor is the one part of the N64 controller that DOESN'T break
>The loss of precision common in N64 controllers is the result of the channel in the gear pieces (the parts that are identical in the NSO controller) wearing down from use.
then why were they never replicated properly?
I always thought the rare as fuck optical shit was breaking from use, not the other stuff.
remodeling the gears/plastic-parts for replication should be easier these days.

[Anonymous No.8278380]

>>8277408
>early 2015 ARM-SoC using ARM-cores introduced in mid-2012
>emulating wii or wiiu
"no"

[Anonymous No.8278467]

>>8278369
>then why were they never replicated properly?
nta, but I think it's because the tolerance of the mold, I think you needed a LEGO tier mold, with tolerances of 10nm to reproduce it perfectly. I believe that N64 Gears achieved that, but one of the gears that was sent to create the mold was probably used, because one of the gears has a mark, so they are not perfect. There's a site reviewing the gears, I think it's wtfparts.info, read it and you'll understand the whole problem better.

[Anonymous No.8278471]

>>8277026
not him but he's right, kitsch bitch a shit

[Anonymous No.8278475]

>>8278369
because plastic injection molding is expensive, especially when you have to reserve engineer a mold for the part you're trying to make. Not the kind of thing one guy in his garage can do.