/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.8250285]

Why do people hate this controller so much? Once you realise it's three grips are intentionally supposed to be held in certain ways to play certain games it plays fine.

[Anonymous No.8250287]

>>8250285
I like it just fine but the fact that its analog stick grinds itself to dust and easily loosens itself up is a major issue, these things were in no way built to last

[Anonymous No.8250292]

Yes it's great once you realise how it's really meant to be held

[Anonymous No.8250315]

>>8250285
Only retards and people who never owned a 64 say bad things about it. It's one of the best controllers.
>Muh joystick
All of my controllers are fine including the joysticks, because i took care of them.

[Anonymous No.8250332]

>>8250292
What game are they playing?

[Anonymous No.8250378]

>>8250332
Ur-Quaan is playing Mario, and some other time xe plays Zelda. The list goes on..

[Anonymous No.8250379]

>>8250315
>works on my machine

[Anonymous No.8250796]

>>8250285
There are a number of problems with it. My main problem with it is that they crammed too much shit into one shitty package. Only a handful of game use both the analog and dpad and even then not for anything they couldn't do another way. Not being a poorfag, I would have really preferred they had separate controllers for those if games weren't going to use them both.

[Anonymous No.8250818]

>>8250315
>All of my controllers are fine including the joysticks
didnt own mario party huh?

[Anonymous No.8250823]

There's nothing wrong with it, it's just incredibly alien and experimental.

[Anonymous No.8250837]

You have to hold it slightly angled in order to grip it properly. If you hold it straight up and down, you will be grasping the analog stick and Z-button on the left, and your thumb will be positioned over the C-buttons on the right.

The A and B are not the primary button position for your right thumb unless you hold it slightly sideways. It's janky.

[Anonymous No.8250852]

>>8250285
It's an ergonomic shitshow.
The INCLUSION of hardware features isn't the issue.
The PLACEMENT of the features is terrible.

[Anonymous No.8250858]

>>8250285
It would've been an excellent controller if they sorted out the stick issues. Even if you set aside the build quality, the stick is just slippery and tires your thumb after a while. Everything else is good, the controller is comfortable to hold and responsive enough.

[Anonymous No.8250936]

It's a fine controller but the dpad grip is just a waste of plastic. There's like a single digit number of games that even register dpad inputs, I think they could have just made it a two grip controller and told the 2D games to suck it up and use the joystick.

[Anonymous No.8251216]

>>8250936
the playstation controller wastes plastic with its prongs - it was less comfortable than the SNES controller it was based on way less comfortable than the contemporary SEGA controllers at the time.

[Anonymous No.8251460]

Did anyone else use their index finger as well as their thumb to control the control stick? Using the middle finger for the Z button. I found it much more comfortable and easier to control that way as a kid. I didn't even question it until I saw other people just used their thumb. Give it a try.

[Anonymous No.8251674]

>>8250285
>it plays fine
too bad it doesn’t play good

[Anonymous No.8251701]

>>8250818
Yes, i own all of them. We just didn't play mini games like retards...

[Anonymous No.8251712]

>>8250285
Smash and Mario 64 fans still trying to convince everyone that these controls are good? When journalists say joycon is good, at least they get paid for it

[Anonymous No.8251717]

>>8251712
The 64 controller didn't drift a week after you bought it.

[Anonymous No.8251792]

>>8251701
You should have stopped replying because you sound like a retard.

[Anonymous No.8251967]

>>8250285
zoomers are retarded

[Anonymous No.8252032]

>>8251792
How do i sound like a retard?

[Anonymous No.8252041]

>>8250285
Analog stick and shoulder buttons are shit

[Anonymous No.8252570]

>>8251967
/thread

[Anonymous No.8252860]

>>8252032
probably because you're retarded

[Anonymous No.8252910]

>>8251701
kek retard

[Anonymous No.8253198]

>>8250285
>play FPS games
>can't use the C buttons to change weapons

[greedy No.8253275]

Saturn 3d pad was better.

[Anonymous No.8253287]

>>8250315
This and based

[Anonymous No.8253289]

>>8253275
Both were equally good for what they were designed to do.

[Anonymous No.8253292]

>>8250818
>>8251792
>>8252860
>>8252910
Zoomies outed themselves and fell for a meme. Go back where you belong you insufferable faggots.

[Anonymous No.8253297]

>>8253292
positively seething

[Anonymous No.8253298]

>>8250378
Wat is an 'ur quaan' ?

[Anonymous No.8253310]

>>8250285
oh, it's already time for the weekly "n64 controller
isn't bad" thread?

[Anonymous No.8253690]

>>8253298
"In our twenty thousand years along the Path of Now and Forever
we have dominated thousands of species, yes
but we have saved hundreds from extinction.
You imagine the threat of unknown invaders, or alien pestilence borne on the solar wind.
We have seen these. But you do not acknowledge your own worst enemy, yourselves.
We have found dead worlds without number, planets ravaged by atomic fire or gaian collapse.
These planets were not rendered sterile by outside forces.
They bear sad testament to the effects of unrestrained instinct and emotion
or simple ignorance.
We will prevent such mistakes."

The Ur-Quan Masters is one of the best retro games ever.

[Anonymous No.8253710]

>>8250292
>tfw you realize that all this time N64 multiplayer games was meant to be played by 8 players

[Anonymous No.8253739]

I mean, let's be frank, the quality of the controller is shit. And the C buttons were an interesting idea, but dual analog is a lot better. For the first of its kind, it got the job done very well.
When I was a kid, I only learned how to hold the thing once a game prompted me to use Z. I had no idea where Z was. When I finally found it, it clicked. Before, I used my thumb and index finger to pinch the joystick, but realizing I needed a finger for Z, I finally put my thumb on top of the stick. I had to teach so many of my friends the same way

[Anonymous No.8255180]

>>8250285
The issue with the analog stick is a nightmare that with each passing year seems like the retro market will never truly fix. To this day there still isn't a third part controller or parts that are 1:1 with the original.

[Anonymous No.8256170]

>>8253710
Mario Party 7 has 8 player through controller sharing. All the minigames are stick + trigger controls.

[Anonymous No.8256175]

>>8250285
tfw I can't post the "how to hold the n64 controller picture" without getting a vacation for a few days. So I'll just say despite being physically large its form factor makes it cramped to hold and also the sticks go to shit very quickly and make playing the low framerate games even more unresponsive

[Anonymous No.8256176]

>>8256175
Retard

[Anonymous No.8256195]

>>8256176
so it's two really burly hands, right? Gripping the left and right handles. On the center handle - that's the secret, a meaty and stanky uncircumcised dick docks the center grip. The genius part is the background of the image, an out of focus short barreled revolver.

Now THAT is how you hold an N64 controller. It still doesn't make it a good controller mind you, but that's the trick.

[Anonymous No.8256801]

>>8250285
It's ugly, tends to break and has t h r e e g r i p s
Design in general is not an art form, and this controller proves that. Nintendo was so obsessed with the trident shape (and very probably brand recognition) that they sacrificed the user experience. You had to change grip for every game you played. That's an extra level of discomfort added to the user, and generally bad design.

[Anonymous No.8257039]

They fucked up so hard they made the best controller of all time a generation later

[Anonymous No.8257072]

>>8257039
This level of delusion is why no one takes nintendo fans seriously anymore. The gamecube controller was so badly designed it prevented gamecube from being able to play most contemporary games. And those that did make it over suffered abysmal control schemes that made games unplayable like the SSX ports for example.

[Anonymous No.8257551]

N64 is probably the best controller ever made. Certainly would be if the stick lasted longer. It revolutions controllers and the standard is still used today.

[Anonymous No.8257581]

>>8250285
It's retarded because you can't use the dpad and the stick at the same time without moving to the other grip, also no camera control or using buttons to control the camera in a 3d space
just a shitty design at the beginning of 3d games before they figured out the optimal layout

the basic design wouldn't be perfected until the xbox controller came out, everything since then is just refinement of that layout

[Anonymous No.8257645]

>>8253739
>I used my thumb and index finger to pinch the joystick, but realizing I needed a finger for Z, I finally put my thumb on top of the stick. I had to teach so many of my friends the same way
WTF, did you go to a special ed school?

[Anonymous No.8257794]

SLURP SLURP I LOVE MIYAMOTO COCK.

Newsflash: N64 controller sucks, N64 library sucks and N64 sucks.

[Anonymous No.8257798]

>>8250285
The joystick sucks and it's too awkward

Plus n64 has no games (other than the xtemely blurry 5 ok ones)

[Anonymous No.8257842]

[Anonymous No.8258227]

>>8256801
>>8257581
>>8257794
>>8257798
Retarded zoomers

[Anonymous No.8258234]

>>8258227
Post a single N64 game. I’ll wait

[Anonymous No.8258253]

>>8258234
your mother

[Anonymous No.8258261]

>>8258234
Bomberman 64: The Second Attack is the most kino bomberman and still to this day is a console exclusive

[Anonymous No.8258274]

>>8258253
That’s not a game, my good bitch

[Anonymous No.8258278]

>people

[Anonymous No.8258449]

>>8257794
Get meds

[Anonymous No.8259060]

>>8250285
3DO M2 controller was superior

[Anonymous No.8259070]

>nostalgia goggle kids playing that shit controller with their tiny little 8 year old hands have no problems
Try it now, unless you've barely grown any since elementary school and still have tiny baby hands. Anyone with any decent size hands can't hold it in any good way.
You kids will do anything to glorify the fucking N64 and its library of complete trash because it was your first baby console, won't you?

[Anonymous No.8259454]

>>8257551
>the standard is still used today.
lol the only standard in the industry is a twin stick clone of the dual shock and any system without the same number of buttons is seen as crippled. Even current day nintendo follows the standard set by sony.

[Anonymous No.8259471]

What does it offer compared to a two handle controller? Obviously you're just supposed to use two of the three handles, but then you lose many off the inputs.

[Anonymous No.8259473]

>>8259454
It goes full circle though. The Playstation controller was obviously following the SNES controller design before it added the sticks.

[Anonymous No.8259554]

For me the A and B buttons are to close to the analog stick.

[Anonymous No.8259780]

>>8259473
Nice cope, might as well say everyone copies atari because they used buttons not levers or dials.

[Anonymous No.8259805]

>>8259454
the dualshock was just a snes controller with analogue sticks shown feasible from the n64; both Nintendo

[Anonymous No.8259806]

>>8250285
>three different grip gimmick was rarely used, 99.999% of every single game uses the ‘left hand on the stick, right on the buttons’ set up
>mass excessive plastic
>pointless prongs, you take the far left and right ones off and it would still work
>camera controls often mapped to the c buttons, which is just awkward

[Anonymous No.8260050]

>>8259805
The DS is a perfectly symmetrical controller it has nothing to do with the SNES one. The fact nintendo copied the symmetrical button layout of the DS is proof who's is copying who.