/vr/ - Retro Games

[/CRT/ general - 45" fuckhueg e(...) No.8234243]

This thread is for the spirited discussion of CRT displays - Televisions, monitors and projectors used for the playing of retro games!

>Try to keep it /vr/-related. Slight OT might be okay if related to CRTs (E.G. 16:9 compatible models, flatscreens, etc.) Systems with backwards compatibility are also pretty safe territory, assuming you're focusing on the older games. PC CRTs are also a-ok.
>Produce OC! Get out your real cameras and take beautiful pictures of your CRTs displaying recognizable characters with the kind of beautiful accuracy that brings tears to the eyes of young and old alike! If you take 100 photos, at least one of them will turn out alright! (maybe)
>Try to be as detailed as possible when asking info on a specific model. As always, google is your friend, and we are your friends with benefits. Older archived threads aren't a bad place to look either.
>Share appreciation for others choice of technology and personal philosophy of gaming. As always show courtesy in your discussion and moderate yourselves first.

previous thread >>8195276

[Anonymous No.8234272]

>>8234243
Which crt in the 13-14 inch range would you get for playing snes, gamecube, and ps2?

[Anonymous No.8234308]

>>8234272
whatever is $10 on facebook

[Anonymous No.8234365]

here's your scanlines on a pc crt, bro

[Anonymous No.8234376]

>>8234365
yeesh

[Anonymous No.8234378]

>>8234272
panasonic ct-13r. composite only
I have mine right next to a 14m2 and it holds its own against the PVM

[Anonymous No.8234454]

>Allen has mistaken me for this dickhead Marcus Halberstram. It seems logical because Marcus also shitposts /crt/ and in fact does the same exact thing I do. He also has a penchant for PC monitors and rebranded Trinitrons. Marcus and I even have the same tube, although mine has slightly better convergence.

[Anonymous No.8234475]

Anyone own a GBS? Trying to send video from my laptop to the GBS, then sending that signal to a PVM, but it's not displaying properly, just a bunch of lines everywhere. (Laptop only has a DisplayPort and HDMI output, but DP is being used by another monitor.)
This is the adapter I bought, www.amazon.com/dp/B00ZMV7RL2/ , unless a direct HDMI to VGA cable works, or if it's something in the UI I need to mess with. Just wanted to stream shows on a CRT, nothing fancy.

[Anonymous No.8234483]

>>8234454
What source? Netflix? Blu-ray? De-interlaced DVD?

[Anonymous No.8234485]

>>8234378
even better, the panasonic ag 500

[Anonymous No.8234495]

soul...

[Anonymous No.8234496]

>>8234485
he asked for a crt to play games, not a collectors piece

[Anonymous No.8234498]

>>8234496
it's silly to recommend a specific model either way, so it may as well be a cool one.

[Anonymous No.8234506]

>>8234498
ct13rs are very common. There's dozens on ebay right now. But they're overpriced, because of shipping.
But you're right, anything panasonic should be decent. Actually anything with decent geometry should be fine.

[Anonymous No.8234510]

>>8234483
fullscreen dvd, deinterlaced
there's also an open matte full hd version if you're interested

[Anonymous No.8234517]

>>8234506
yeah just anecdotal but I've seen the ag 500 for sale relatively local to me whereas I've never seen a 13r. Just an example of how you never know what exists around you, but there's nice things everywhere

[Anonymous No.8234524]

>>8234510
I just rewatched it a week ago. 16:9 dvd version through a PS3 into a shitty chinese tv.

[Anonymous No.8235245]

oi me speccy were lookin well good on me trinny innit

[Anonymous No.8235258]

>>8234495

[Anonymous No.8235301]

I can't do CRT's because my eyes are instantly drawn to any sort of imperfect geometry and just can't concentrate on the game once I've noticed it

[Anonymous No.8235314]

>>8234485
but will it warm yesterday's chicken?

[Anonymous No.8235385]

Does any finn know if this thing does NTSC?

[Anonymous No.8235404]

>>8235385
Anything that does SCART RGB doesn’t need to do NTSC

[Anonymous No.8235415]

>>8235404
What? why?

[Anonymous No.8235427]

There is a Sony Trinitron KV-29CL10K for sale for 20$ and a Sony Trinitron KV-29CL11K for sale for 40$. Both complete with stands and remote
Should I buy one of these? I like the kinda big screen since 32" Trinitrons are unobtainable here.

[Anonymous No.8235435]

>>8235427
Yeah but ask for photos of them working first
P.S. as for the price, ignore the /crt/ meme that you can get free CRTs wherever you live. You can't, it's far from a universal truism and is certainly getting harder

[Anonymous No.8235436]

>>8235385
Suomessa valmistetut, ainakin halvemmat ja vanhat telkkarit ei tykkää 60hz/ntsc:ästä yhtään. Poikkeksia toki voi olla mutta en ota riskiä Saloran/Nokian/Finluxin paskoista jos et pysty kokeilemaan ennen ostoa/paikanpäällä tai jos ntsc/60hz tuen puuttuminen ei haittaa. Googleta mallinumero jos sattumalta löytyy jotain tietoa. Muista myös että täysin samoja(ainoa ero logo telkkarin edessä) telkkareita myytiin monen merkin alla. Esimerkkinä webMissä oleva jotka myytiin Nokiana ja Finluxina joka ei synkkää 60hz kanssa ollenkaan.
TL;DR nobody can tell you unless they had that same exact model and tested it.
>>8235415
Getting color to tv that shows ntsc compsite in B&W can be bypassed with using RGB scart cable(if the console actually outputs RGB and NOT composite via the scart cable, scart connector can carry multiple signals), or with Koryuu Transcoder+ RetroTINK Comp2RGB Transcoder, its stupid, expensive and a lot of hassle, but it works, with no quality loss and doesn't add any input lag.
>>8235404
Yes but it does not guarantee that it syncs to 60hz or even to pal60. Its rare but sometimes you lose the gamble.

[Anonymous No.8235449]

>>8235435
I mean I'll be picking them up personally. Its like 10 minute drive for one and 15 min for the other. I know I have to check for burn in.
The KV-29CL10K looks better on the outside but supposedly the KV-29CL11K was almost never used being sold because the original owner died.

I believe the CL10 vs CL11 is just color difference. Both being made in 2003 and have the same specs except the remote design.

[Anonymous No.8235808]

>>8234485
>>8234496
Thats not a collectors piece. Its a microwave.

[Anonymous No.8236470]

>rgb

[Anonymous No.8236529]

Hey, just wanted to thank those that answered my question last night about transporting a 21" Trinitron.

[Anonymous No.8236646]

>>8234475
Pretty sure the GBS-Control firmware can only downscale 480p->240p. Anything else will be passed through and not processed.

[Anonymous No.8236658]

>rgb

[Anonymous No.8236682]

>>8234365
They’re just that good.

[Anonymous No.8236686]

>>8236658
amerimutt

[Anonymous No.8236735]

>>8236646
My laptop can go as low as 480p, but not lower than 60Hz/50Hz refresh rate, if that's making any difference

[Anonymous No.8236905]

>>8235435
>ignore the /crt/ meme that you can get free CRTs wherever you live. You can't
At least in Canada they are still everywhere. For trinitron there are usually only a few any give week that are free though. Most want like $20 for them. Pic related us today's free offerings.

[Anonymous No.8236978]

>>8236905
>live in florida
>the south east smash scene is basically here
>CRTs get scooped instantly or charged stupid prices if they're in good condition
fuck stinky day

[Anonymous No.8237142]

>>8236905
>decide to look up some local listings to see what I got in my area
>there's a listing for a nice looking philips pc monitor for free pickup in fucking walking distance from me
>already claimed, the guy just left the listing up until the "buyer" comes to pick it up

can everyone please convince me that philips monitors are trash or something so I can stop feeling like a dumbass for not checking listings daily

[Anonymous No.8237149]

>>8237142
that's a bargain bin monitor, yes. You can find something similar in every old person's basement

[Anonymous No.8237158]

>>8237149
okay thank you

[Anonymous No.8237160]

>>8237142
You could pretend the reflection is some real nasty burn in

[Anonymous No.8237208]

>>8235153
>Hope this ain't 1.2 gigs of dolphin porn
It's not. It's mostly the uncompressed music just takes a lot of space.

It's also still in active development of course.

[Anonymous No.8237213]

>>8237142
I would literally die if I missed this opportunity

[Anonymous No.8237215]

>>8234221
>>8234254
I just wanna point out that you can do 240p@60hz in a PC CRT by using BFI and 120hz. Sure it's a bit darker but the trade-off is worth it.
Alternatively you can use 480p@60hz without BFI and then use fake scanlines but that doesn't look as good.

Also worth noting that although rare there are VGA CRT's out there that support 15khz natively.

[Anonymous No.8237221]

>>8235245
No scanlines?

[Anonymous No.8237240]

I have a question about PC CRT monitors. How high does the scanrate go on any later 14" or even 10" models? I'd love something small with a half-decent scanrate, but all i've come across locally is like 54kHz models.

[Anonymous No.8237246]

Hello all, I have a question regarding an issue that's been driving me INSANE for the last few minutes. I own a KV-27FS120 that I have accessed the service menu on MULTIPLE times. Today I went to go into the service menu and I CAN'T!!!! Is there some way I could have accidentally disabled it, or locked it??

Here's the thing, I look up the service manual pdf, it tells me Display, 5, Vol+, Power. I've done that I don't know how many times. But for some reason, it feels wrong? Like I used a different code last time, maybe something like Mute, 5, Vol-, not very different but still, different. ANY help would be greatly appreciated!! Picrel is my factory remote, so I'm EXTRA confused as to why this isn't working :(

[Anonymous No.8237251]

>>8237246
>Display, 5, Vol+, Power
You've got the right code. You might want to try hitting TV, the button underneath the power button before trying it again. Not exactly the same situation, but I used my remote on multiple TVs once and had to hit the TV button before I could use the service menu again on whichever set I had on at the time.

[Anonymous No.8237253]

>>8237221
They're there.

[Anonymous No.8237259]

>>8237221
>>8237253
generally PVMs are so bright that you don't even see the scan lines when sitting a proper distance away
thats why scanline filters are a total meme

[Anonymous No.8237264]

>>8237251
Give me ur address I'll suck ur dick

[Anonymous No.8237292]

Spent a lot of time trying to get the geometry dialed in on my kv-32s40 that I RGB modded. In platformers and action games is mostly fine but with jRPGs that pop up menus and dialog boxes it's really noticeable. Have a Degaussing tool coming in the mail, also have some convergence strips and magnets to try and dial it in. Anyone have any tips?

[Anonymous No.8237339]

>>8237264
Lol no thanks, it drove me nuts when that happened to me too. I saved you maybe 20 mins

[Anonymous No.8237446]

>>8234272
I just bought a 13" disney princess crt for $10. It has the little mermaid on the screen swiming her sexy ass left or right when you press the volume, and cinderella when you change the channel
>Ive been coomin all week

[Anonymous No.8237582]

>>8237215
>480p@60hz without BFI and then use fake scanlines but that doesn't look as good.
they're virtually identical unless you have microscopes for eyes
and also 240p and BFI are way more finicky in my experience, not to mention you're still fucked if the game switches to 480i (see pic for an example)

[Anonymous No.8237593]

>hmm I want a pvm
>check ebay
what the fuck?

[Anonymous No.8237605]

>>8237292
>Anyone have any tips?
Live with it. Or go crazy trying to fix it.

[Anonymous No.8237607]

>>8237253
you can set your overscan button to remove the black border for your speccy
I have my underscan set to run SNES in 8:7

[Anonymous No.8237608]

>>8237607
>I have my underscan set to run SNES in 8:7

[Anonymous No.8237612]

>>8237608
makes the squares square in SMW allstars + World

[Anonymous No.8237623]

>>8234365
Take a pic of something that can max out the potential of it.

[Anonymous No.8237625]

>>8234495
2002 nostalgia

[Anonymous No.8237627]

My ps2 underscans on my tv, is there any way to fix it? Should I?

[Anonymous No.8237641]

Anyone else hate crt’s where the only inputs are in the front? It just looks ugly and gets in the way

[Anonymous No.8237646]

>>8237627
PS2 always has centering issues, if you adjust it for that then everything else will be wrong

[Anonymous No.8237658]

Why

[Anonymous No.8237694]

>>8237446
post pix

[Anonymous No.8237724]

>>8237292
Have you recapped it?

[Anonymous No.8237746]

>>8237339
Not him, but take the dick sucking Anon. 20 minutes save is 20 minutes earned.. right? All kidding aside, good on /vr/ for helping people still. The quality of this board has went down the shitter, but post like these make me happy

[Anonymous No.8237756]

>>8234365
What actual crts look like

[Anonymous No.8237812]

>>8234495

[Anonymous No.8237959]

>>8237605
>Or go crazy trying to fix it.

experiencing this with the convergence on my CRT right now. It USED to be perfectly fine until I opened the TV just to clean out all the dust, but ever since then the color beams are just slightly off and I can't get them lined up perfect again. I even marked the original positions of the rings but putting them there doesn't work. It's driving me nuts.

[Anonymous No.8237964]

>>8237259
>I never saw a PVM in real life, but I have opinions

[Anonymous No.8238286]

>rgb

[Anonymous No.8238523]

>rgb

[Anonymous No.8238662]

>>8236905
Yeah CRT's are given away for free in Canada if they're 27 inches plus because you're basically doing the owners a favour by moving it. Do you know how heavy 27 inch+ CRT's are?

[Anonymous No.8238761]

>rgb

[Anonymous No.8238963]

>>8237756
A PC CRT is still an "actual CRT".
There are a dozen types of CRT all with different looking images at 240p.

[Anonymous No.8238981]

>>8237593
>hmm I want a pvm
You and everyone else bud. What do you think yer special?

[Anonymous No.8239069]

is this good enough? ive been fiddling with the service menu a while now. i cant seem to get the dots to align on the top and bottom center edge.

[Anonymous No.8239094]

>>8239069
its fine, play your damn games

[Anonymous No.8239096]

>>8239069
shits fucked you gotta throw it out

[Anonymous No.8239102]

>>8239069
I'd kill for a nice TV and here you are complaining about dots

[Anonymous No.8239105]

>>8239094
im doing my best!
>>8239096
dang, another one for the landfill i guess
>>8239102
:^)

[Anonymous No.8239113]

>>8239069
>i cant seem to get the dots to align on the top and bottom center edge.
you're not supposed to, that looks mostly how it should

[Anonymous No.8239349]

What I'm curious about are people's audio setups alongside their crts. Anyone have period correct setups? Any suggestions?

[Anonymous No.8239373]

>small trinitron
>$200+
>big trinitron
>free basically everywhere
are they capitalizing on the fact that PVMcels can't lift?

[Anonymous No.8239425]

>>8239373
I think most people just want to have a smallish CRT as a side TV in addition to their HD TVs. Not everyone has or is willing to make the space for some 30 inch chonklord on their TV setup, or is willing to set up an SD television as their main set.

Not being able to single person lift the bigger CRTs is definitely a problem too though.

[Anonymous No.8239473]

>>8239349
My speakers and subwoofer are modern Sony ones, but my Dolby Surround receiver is from the 90s.

[Anonymous No.8239481]

>>8239373
My 17" FV310 was free (Canada though). The big ones just sit longer.

[Anonymous No.8239484]

>>8239373
>>8239425
also, desk tvs are very popular. most people just sit infront of their desk. consoles can be hooked up to the same monitor as the PC so theres no need for a living room TV to hook up your consoles to. and having a small desk TV to hook up your retro consoles to rounds up everything.

[Anonymous No.8239516]

>>8239349
im just using the built in speaker because the tv is directly in front of me, but sadly its just mono. i also dont really want to use speaker, ideally i would somehow feed the consoles audio into my PC and have it pass it through to my headphones like i do with my modern consoles as well, but i doubt theres a solution for it and if there is it probably involves hooking up another converter box in-line which could potentially introduce lag as well. i need to look into it sometime

[Anonymous No.8239524]

>>8239349
>period correct setups
That's next level autism, just DYOR and get some good shielded passive speakers and a decent amp. Mine are Polk Audio Monitor 40s, may get some tower speakers eventually

[Anonymous No.8239531]

>>8239516
getting audio out and into aux doesnt even seem to be the problem, theres cheap adapter cables, no converter box or anything necessary. the bigger problem is how to converge the two audio outputs from the crt and the monitor into one port without any signal quality issues.

[Anonymous No.8239543]

>>8239531
get an rca to 3.5mm adapter and plug it into your pc's line in on the motherboard

[Anonymous No.8239547]

>>8239524
soulless setup

[Anonymous No.8239554]

>>8239543
yes, but i already have my inline populated by a 3.5mm coming out of my monitor to get all the audio from every console i hook up to that monitor. i have some 2 female to 1 male splitters but i doubt itll give me good results. ill test around a bit

[Anonymous No.8239569]

>>8239554
hmm, maybe you could plug it into a different 3.5mm jack and reconfigure it to also be a line in, I've done that before fiddling with the realtek audio manager

[Anonymous No.8239592]

>>8239569
do you remember how you did that? realtek audio manager seems very limited in what it lets me do and for whatever reason four of my six motherboard jacks are greyed out completely

[Anonymous No.8239610]

>>8239592
in the sound manager, click on the settings button on the left side and enable "separate all input jacks as independent devices" and on the bottom right settings button enable the auto popup dialog. then when you plug in a new device into any jack it will ask you what kind of input/output it is, simply set it to line in when you plug in

[Anonymous No.8239664]

anyone have any experience with this component switch box? seems interesting but despite the high rating on amazon im reading a lot of bad things like poor quality rca jacks and bad image quality

[Anonymous No.8239669]

>>8239664
chinks buy reviews

[Anonymous No.8239690]

>>8239664
I bought that a few years ago and think it works fine. Just buy some good cables and you should be set. I haven't run any tests on it by any means, but it did the job well in my set up

[Anonymous No.8239714]

>>8239349
I've got a '89 Denon amp and I bought a pair of late '70s ESS monitors last week to replace my old not-so-good JVCs. They sound great, also tested them with my relative's NAD 3020 and liked the results a lot.
I'll probably get a better amp in the future, hopefully something from the '80s, too. What can I say, I like old hi-fi equipment.

[Anonymous No.8239715]

>>8237812
Glad someone posted this

[Anonymous No.8239752]

>>8239349
I have these (Refer to filename).
Very good audio, they take AUX input and optical (plus I guess bluetooth if you need it) and come in walnut veneer if you prefer an older look.

[Anonymous No.8239760]

>>8239664
I've never had good luck with switch boxes, especially anything off amazon. You really can't cheap out on something that handles an analog signal.

[Anonymous No.8239815]

>>8239349
My pvm doesn't do audio on RGB so I got those Sony apm speakers and some receiver from around the era. I mostly use headphones tho it sounds so damn good

[Anonymous No.8239818]

>>8239373
There are many many more large CRTs then small. When the change to lcd game, people just tossed their small crts. The big ones got stuck in some boomers basement or shed or guest room cause moving that shit to the dump isn't feasible for many. The supply for good condition small crts is tight.

[Anonymous No.8239836]

just got myself a gigantic 36" rca colortrak plus. did i do good bros? i sure hope so because this thing weighs 100 pounds so it better be worth it.

[Anonymous No.8240039]

>>8239836
100lb for a 36" is absolutely nothing

[Anonymous No.8240042]

>>8240039
Oh I see you mistyped it's 190. Also lol at them claiming 790 tvl
Good pickup anon

[Anonymous No.8240085]

Holy shit I regret looking at r*ddit

[Anonymous No.8240108]

so apparently small consumer sets like 14 inch have nearly unexistant scanlines just due to the size of the display itself... thats dissapointing
hows using an old PC monitor for 240p like? is it doable?

[Anonymous No.8240112]

>>8240085
Man, and I felt like a bit of an asshole for reselling an 8042Q I bought for $20 at Goodwill for $60.

[Anonymous No.8240120]

some computer store told me it wasnt "worth" fixing my NEC CRT and that they could get rid of it for me and i still regret to this day actually following their advice

[Anonymous No.8240148]

My crt does this weird “wobbling” thing and I’m not sure why. The imagines on screen will wobble up and down every few seconds. It’s not very noticeable on camera, but it’s very distracting in person. Any ideas why and how to fix?

[Anonymous No.8240152]

>>8235436
HELLO PORYGON.

[Anonymous No.8240156]

>>8240108
Don't fall for the meme
>>8240148
Try wiggling the vertical position pot around, it might be corroded and causing interference. If that's not it, check the vertical circuitry including sync, and try giving it a smack

[Anonymous No.8240175]

just saw a Mitsubishi Diamond Pro 930 for 35€
guy literally listed as "works as a movie prop"
normies will literally have a 1080p perfect color quality 160 Hz monitor and dismiss it as junk or a prop just because "its an old big monitor XD"
i guess its good for the people who do know what they are but it saddens me that theres people literally throwing perfectly working CRTs, even high end ones, to the junkyards
>>8240156
what meme?
>>8240148
>“wobbling” thing
sync? are the calbes properly plugged in?

[Anonymous No.8240203]

>>8240175
>Mitsubishi Diamond Pro 930
It's a good monitor but don't fellate it, it's just above average.
>what meme?
The scanlions meme

[Anonymous No.8240205]

>>8240203
>it's just above average.
i thought 2000's monitors were the creme de la creme, the cream of the crop, the peak of CRT tech before they got replaced by sub-par early LCD screens
seems like about the most decent consumer sets
what would you consider to be better?
>The scanlions meme
i love scanlines, specially if they're thick
you can get ultra thick scanlines to the point that they look unrealistic in a PC monitor lol, but its usually too much

[Anonymous No.8240213]

>>8237292
contrast too high, or just ignore it

[Anonymous No.8240219]

>>8239664
yeah, they work fine, however they are extremely light so either weigh them down or stick them down

[Anonymous No.8240221]

>>8240205
That monitor I would consider right between mid and high end. The mid range is the 19" 96kHz vertical scan rate, that one can do 110kHz so you can push a bit higher refresh rate, and the high end I consider to be the monitors over 20" like the lacie electron blue 22 which has a 140kHz vertical scan

[Anonymous No.8240228]

>>8240221
for the the low end would be like 15" ones that can't even have proper blacks
17" to 19" 70 KHz ones seem mid-range to me, considering they're the most common ones i seem to see online
may have to do with living in a region with no big cities in western europe

[Anonymous No.8240238]

Is this CRT good for gaming?

[Anonymous No.8240283]

>>8240238
Don't think it's a CRT mate

[Anonymous No.8240305]

>>8240238
>widescreen
probably has some digital processing in there, so it may cause input lag

[Anonymous No.8240440]

>>8239349
just the built-in high-quality speakers. memes aside, they are actually pretty good.

[Anonymous No.8240451]

>>8240283

[Anonymous No.8240453]

AAAAAAAAAA fucking tv lost its sync over night. Can’t get it back.
Most likely something died inside right?

[Anonymous No.8240464]

>>8240283
>can clearly see the warped geometry
>not a CRT
what?

[Anonymous No.8240471]

>>8239664
Hahaha holy shit my problem >>8240453
was this exact fucking box, it killed itself somehow. After plugging my consoles DIRECTLY into my tv everything worked as normal.
Never buy China crap, learned my lesson

[Anonymous No.8240481]

>>8240471
mate, have you tried putting the right colour plug in the right hole
I doubt very much this switcher did anything to your setup as it has done nothing wrong with mine

[Anonymous No.8240515]

>>8240481
Yes, because I used the switcher fine for about a year. Then it just killed itself over night.

[Anonymous No.8240551]

>>8240515
>killed itself
Have you dropped it?
The only reason that it would die randomly is that it was damaged

[Anonymous No.8240569]

>>8239349
As long as the built in speakers are at least stereo I don't think a dedicated audio setup is that necessary, unless you just wanna go real fancy for the sake of it.

[Anonymous No.8240743]

>>8240551
No I barely moved it over the year, plugged and unplugged it from time to time but that’s it, I opened it but couldn’t see any clear indicator that was broken, continuity was also fine on all connections.

[Anonymous No.8240842]

>>8240042
>Good pickup anon
thanks bro, but can anyone tell me why my RCA TV is a good pick up? just trying to learn a little bit. just started getting into it. i figured it was worth getting for $20 really close by, so i rushed out to get it before someone else did. i want to make a retro gaming station with this and the big tv seems so cool for it.

[Anonymous No.8240881]

[Anonymous No.8240887]

Everytime I go back home to visit my parents I try and dream up a way to get this 36XBR200 out of the basement by myself. My folks basement used to be my dads man cave, be bought this TV new. Has to have less than 1000 hours on it. All he ever watched was football games on Sunday on it. The Sears delivery people are the ones that got this thing down the steps back in the 90s. Next time I go over I gotta bring my snes with me to test it out.

[Anonymous No.8240893]

>>8240887
looks nice, if its a XBR it might be an HD CRT and those are useless, though since it's a 90s model I don't think so.

[Anonymous No.8240894]

>>8240893
It's for sure a SD set, years ago I plugged a PS1 and guncon into it and played point blank. That doesn't work on HD CRTs

[Anonymous No.8240958]

>>8240238
Only good for 6th gen

[Anonymous No.8240964]

>>8240842
>can anyone tell me why my RCA TV is a good pick up?
It's not the best pickup or anything, but it's okay. It's a large screen, you only paid $20 for it, and it has S-video input. But I never used this particular model, so it all depends on how the games look when you use it.

[Anonymous No.8240968]

Is there a solid component switch that doesn’t cost jewish amounts of money?

[Anonymous No.8240984]

>>8240968
Otaku Games has a 6-port switch that includes component, RCA, and scart for $60 or $73 with housing. You probably won't use the scart ports, but I've heard the switch is decent. You might want to look into it more though.

[Anonymous No.8241041]

>>8240964
cool thanks. ill take some photos and post em here once i get a console for this thing.

[Anonymous No.8241349]

I have today and tomorrow to find a VGA CRT.

None of the Goodwill's have them, no pawn shops, no Facebook marketplace, no salvation army.

Please guide me.

[Anonymous No.8241354]

>>8241349
Craigslist? What's with the time crunch; is someone gonna kill you if you don't come through with a CRT monitor?

[Anonymous No.8241369]

>>8241349
check craigslist, check local garage sales/garage sale listings, check ebay for however many miles/km from your location and see if you can arrange with the seller to buy and pick it up, a recycling center(?? maybe)

[Anonymous No.8241384]

>>8241354
>>8241369
Thanks guys, the time crunch is me being a wagecuck and having a wife and kids means I can only do shit on weekends or late at night.

[Anonymous No.8241387]

>>8240984
thanks for letting me know of this site anon. they have a 6 input component switch with an RGB to component converter built in. Perfect for what I need.

[Anonymous No.8241390]

>>8241384
godspeed gamer dad. Don't forget there are other weekends too; relax if you can

[Anonymous No.8241905]

>>8241384
Could also drop by a nearby recycling center and ask if they mind if you’d check for crts might get lucky.

[Anonymous No.8242269]

>the tinted front glass on my profeel is a 10 lb beefy slab
so based

[Anonymous No.8242554]

Tried to wipe something off an UltraScan P780 and this happened. Monitor hasn't been touched in 15 years. Did I fuck up some kind of special coating?

[Anonymous No.8242595]

Should I try to pick this crt up? It looks to be fucking massive, but appears to have s-video and component.

[Anonymous No.8242596]

>>8242595
Also, it’d be 30 minutes both ways.
Here’s a pic of the back

[Anonymous No.8242604]

>>8242595
>>8242596
I dont think that's a crt. It's one of those shitty home theater projection TVs that poorfags loved

[Anonymous No.8242606]

>>8242595
That's not a CRT anon. That's a projection tv.

[Anonymous No.8242608]

>>8234243
Whats the cheapest 5" color crt I can expect to find? Pvms, even at that size, are absurdly overpriced.

[Anonymous No.8242616]

>>8242608
How can we tell you what to expect as if we know what your local crt marketplace looks like. I see some for 10 dollars near me on facebook markeplace.

[Anonymous No.8242625]

>>8242616
>Facebook marketplace
Shit, I forgot that place existed.

[Anonymous No.8242634]

>>8242604
>>8242606
REEE WHAT THE FUCK I GOT BAITED

anyways, this Konka tv is the only 13-14 incher in my area that’s not ridiculously overpriced. How hard would it be to rgb mod this, if it’s even possible (or worth it) at all?

[Anonymous No.8242669]

>>8242634
>rf only
not possible as far as I know

[Anonymous No.8242689]

>>8242669
Yeah, I figured. On the bright side, there is a 40” mitsubishi not far from me. Not sure how good it would be compared to my 27” trinitron.

[Anonymous No.8242701]

>>8242554
Yes, did you use window cleaner or some such? It eroded the antiglare coating. Best thing to do is rub the rest of it off, but be careful that you don't scratch the glass rubbing too hard

[Anonymous No.8242707]

>>8242595
older projection TVs had CRTs to project the image, but the screen was always more like a screen/canvas on a wall
the light sources (red, blue, green) would be at the bottom and shine onto the mostly plastic screen with the help of a mirror

the problem is that it's a pretty blurry picture and not that bright, they get the huge size through the projection

[Anonymous No.8242720]

>>8242707
from my experience the crt rear projectors are almost always 4:3

[Anonymous No.8242726]

>>8242720
thanks for the info, that would make sense since CRT were only used in the beginning when this was still the normal viewing size

they are also red, blue, and green right? with lenses on them

[Anonymous No.8242735]

>>8242726
yeah there are 3 individual tubes, and aligning them was a huge pain

[Anonymous No.8242796]

>>8242707
God that's just like a TV one of my friends in highschool used to have in his bedroom, except maybe smaller. His was seriously like a home theater screen or something. The picture looked like raw ass but it was too big to move (I think they literally put it in before the walls, whoever built the house probably wanted that room to be a man cave) so he just dealt with it. I would not be surprised if that TV is still in there.

Played a lot of PS3 with him on that thing. Not the best way to appreciate Dragon's Crown's art.

[Anonymous No.8242878]

>>8242796
was it an HD rear projection type or one of the older SD sets? By the time they were 16:9 they actually looked pretty good

[Anonymous No.8243019]

My CRT's picture is getting notably dimmer as time passes and probably needs recapping (not only because of the picture fading, but because the caps themselves are probably aging and I don't want leaky cap fluid all over a mostly good tube).
Now, I used to solder in middle school as a hobby, but that was almost 20 years ago and I was kinda kackhanded even back then- so I'm sure as shit not ready to open a big electrocution box and start fiddling. But these days, in Australia especially, there's precious few people that have worked with CRTs and even if I find someone with those skills they'll probably charge an arm and a leg for their services.
tl;dr - I should probably start learning how to do basic maintenance to keep my CRT (and other aging consoles/accessories) in working order.

To that end, and yeah I know this isn't exactly the right place, is this a good enough set of tools for a beginner?
In terms of learning curve I'd like to try cleaning out all my controllers, recap my SNES and redo the hackjob RGB mod I did with a cheap and shitty soldering kit from Jaycar, maybe try some hand SMT work, and slowly work up the nerve/courage to buy a desoldering station and unscrew the BVM.

[Anonymous No.8243040]

>>8242878
It was definitely HD rear projection

>>8243019
Yeah the station is fine, and I don't see anything wrong with the tweezers. I wouldn't buy a complete solder tip set though all you really need is a good chisel tip.

If you're going to try and recap a TV you'll really want a solder sucker/solder pump. Desoldering braid is also good for cleaning up pads and shit.

[Anonymous No.8243058]

>>8243019
little overkill with all those tips but if you can afford it, nothing wrong with having and not needing.

[Anonymous No.8243067]

What do you think about these little things? I think 9in might be a bit too small for my tastes...

[Anonymous No.8243068]

How do I get into the service mode of PAL SONY KV-M1420E ? I followed a few tutorials online but none seem to work.. otherwise i wouldn't be asking

[Anonymous No.8243069]

>>8243040
>>8243058
Thank you. I've also got an amazon cart with a few other loose ends, like solder/flux/wire/pump/braid/multimeter/etc.; the main thing I guess was getting the green light on that soldering station, since it's relatively inexpensive compared to mid-tier models I'm seeing locally (which are double or triple the price). The tips I'm not too worried about though, they're just on some kind of historically high saving flash sale and I figure 'fuck it'.

Anyway, cheers.

[Anonymous No.8243148]

>>8243068
finally found a thread with the answer: It doesn't have a service mode and i have to open it up...
How do i even open up a CRT without dying?

[Anonymous No.8243161]

>>8243148
Death from CRT maintenance is a meme. It has literally never happened before.
Anyway, you look up your model's manual and check to see which settings are linked to which knob on your TV's board. I did this last week with my PVM. I used a mirror to check changes as tuned it.

[Anonymous No.8243165]

>>8243067
I've wanted this exact TV for a little while. It would look great on my desk. It really is just a touch too small, though

[Anonymous No.8243174]

I’m going to be getting a Viewsonic G70m monitor for free soon, but it’s missing the stand for the monitor. There are no replacements online. Is there something you guys recommend for holding it up? Otherwise I might 3D print something for it.

[Anonymous No.8243182]

>>8243161
gonna print out the manual
still, i would like to take caution
should i get rubber gloves?
>>8243174
pocket books

[Anonymous No.8243184]

>>8242634
What's the point of RGB on a CRT? Just use HDMI on an LCD if you want to ignore all the actual advantages of a CRT

[Anonymous No.8243189]

>>8243182
>gonna print out the manual
why? Just have it open on your phone or computer

[Anonymous No.8243206]

>>8243189
ok...
but just to be sure, can i leave it plugged in while adjusting it? assuming you have to turn some knob to adjust the image position or something, it would be a pain in the ass to have to turn it on-off every time
my main issue is the picture is off-center, to the left mostly

[Anonymous No.8243207]

>>8243184
What?
The hell are you talking about?

[Anonymous No.8243218]

>>8242634
i still can't get over the fact that consumer TVs just didnt have RGB ports on the US despite having the internals to support it in most cases
shit's crazy

[Anonymous No.8243237]

>>8243207
i guess he thinks that crt's are only good for their blurring effect and scanlines, while being ignorant of the lower input lag and better color.

[Anonymous No.8243241]

>>8243148
If you're aiming to disassemble it you're going to want to just unplug it for like a day to let everything discharge. Look up how to make a discharging tool for the anode cap. The first time you're taking it apart you'll want to take some pictures and mark down where everything goes to make sure you can put it back properly and familiarize yourself with the thing.

If you're trying to adjust it while it's on it's not that dangerous, you really have to try to touch any live connections in a tv. If you have to look at the boards while it's on (and the tube is in the way) then just pull it out onto a smooth non conductive surface so it won't get caught on something.

[Anonymous No.8243252]

>>8243237
I mean I like scanlines along with the general aesthetic. I don't care if it's a cancerous take, there IS an appreciable aesthetic to the colors and sort of texture going on and I like watching old shit on CRTs. What I've never heard of, however, is someone who likes crts specifically for their "blurring" and the shittiness that comes from rf, composite, and to a slightly lesser degree s-video. Sure that's what crts were actually like [for burgers] but the first time I saw rgb, it was on a shitty modified consumer set and I was absolutely floored at how good it looked compared to anything I'd seen before.

[Anonymous No.8243260]

>>8243218
>euro tvs get the best video cable of all time as a standard
>americans can barely get composite half the time

it's not fair burgerbros

[Anonymous No.8243263]

>>8243260
This post was made by a europoor who’s never been to America

[Anonymous No.8243264]

>>8243252
it comes up in "discussions" sometimes. some game developers were able to take advantage of compression artifacts etc. to produce certain visual effects (dithering is the common example).

[Anonymous No.8243279]

>>8243067
Full of soul

[Anonymous No.8243290]

>>8243067
soulful

[Anonymous No.8243295]

>>8243264
I've seen that before, but that was more of developers taking advantage of the phosphor glow and the triads in order to get a sort of subpixel shading. I know that's something different but you know what I mean. Taking advantage of shitty signal standards would be especially clever though, even if it feels a bit dirty to me.

[Anonymous No.8243309]

>>8243206
working on a tv while plugged in is way more dangerous than unplugged

[Anonymous No.8243320]

>>8243295
maybe it is subpixels i'm thinking of, i wish i had an example

[Anonymous No.8243321]

>>8243241
>If you're aiming to disassemble it you're going to want to just unplug it for like a day to let everything discharge. Look up how to make a discharging tool for the anode cap
Not at all necessary if you're just doing service menu type image adjustments. They're made to be made while the TV is on and have obvious marked knobs and dials. How else are you gonna see the adjusted image if it isn't on?

[Anonymous No.8243375]

>>8243206
Use a plastic screwdriver and put a mirror in front of the screen to see from behind it

[Anonymous No.8243391]

>>8243260
>americans get 60 Hz and shit video
>euros get 50 Hz slowed down gameplay and good video
>japs get best of both worlds with a decent SCART copycat
Japan... I KNEEL

[Anonymous No.8243497]

>>8243309
yeah but i cant think of another way to actually calibrate it properly
otherwise what, leave it off 24 hours, try to remember wich side to calibrate it, turn the knob a bit and check, then leave it off another 24 hours until the next adjustment?
>>8243375
sounds like a plan

[Anonymous No.8243672]

>>8243391
Glorious Nippon always wins.

[Anonymous No.8243740]

How many of you went the rgb modding route?

[Anonymous No.8243776]

>>8243740
Me, like 8 or 9 times. For Arcade cabs + spares plus sets for a few friends. There are always edge cases, but it's normally pretty easy once you get your eye in.

[Anonymous No.8243783]

>>8243740
don't you guys have component pretty easily found?

[Anonymous No.8243790]

>>8243776
It definitely looks pretty easy based on the videos I've seen. Looks like the only thing to worry about is if a tv is moddable at all.

>>8243783
Not in any of the tvs I've found. Figure it'd be easier to pick up one of the big free tvs out there and mod it than it would be to find a good one with component or a pvm/bvm,

[Anonymous No.8243813]

>>8243790
>than it would be to find a good one with component
I assume this is mainly an issue with SONY TVs?

[Anonymous No.8244151]

43 year old Gen. X I got rid of my CRTs 20 years ago while yes CRT's had better picture there is much to be said for freeing your workspace up to do work on.

[Anonymous No.8244160]

>>8237259
Quit zoomposting. PVM have much stronger and visible scnalines than regular consumer CRT TVs.

[Anonymous No.8244317]

>>8240148
Hello, I am this anon and I’ve decided to rgb mod my trinitron while I’ve already got it open. It’s only got composite and that’s kind of a bummer. What’s the best way to do this without electrocuting myself, or breaking my tv?

[Anonymous No.8244343]

>>8244151
>muh space
Only normies care about that

[Anonymous No.8244353]

>>8244343
>you will live in a pod

[Anonymous No.8244386]

>>8243391
>>8243672
Apparently, going by the info I found on the shmups forum, JP21 isn't nearly as common in Japan as SCART is in Europe. It's mainly older sets that have it, the newer ones tend to have D-terminal (component) instead.
Also, most newer Sony TVs have the AV multi in, for the same connector that's found on Playstation 1-3. I've seen there are double-ended AV multi cables and adapters available.

[Anonymous No.8244402]

>>8244151
>there is much to be said for freeing your workspace up to do work on.
True but instead I just made enough income to afford a large living space and to keep my CRTs. Your post just comes off as cope.

[Anonymous No.8245113]

>>8243309
Akin to driving without a seatrbelt is way more dangerous than driving with one.

If you take the proper precautions, and are not comatose, you will be fine.

[Anonymous No.8245291]

[Anonymous No.8245298]

>>8244353
>living in a pod is the same as filling your home with stuff you enjoy

[Anonymous No.8246050]

First CRT I’ve owned since I was a kid, fits on my desk too which is nice. Cute lil model.

[Anonymous No.8246074]

>>8246050
pretty cool, any plans for what to use with it?

[Anonymous No.8246160]

>>8246074
Gonna grab an hdmi -> rca adapter and fuck around with my old raspberry pi, been itching to replay SMT If so i’ll probably give that a whirl. Until then I’m busting out my vhs collection.

[Anonymous No.8246180]

>>8246160
Pretty sure pi’s do RCA directly

[Anonymous No.8246189]

Like the developers intended.

[Anonymous No.8246208]

>>8246180
The one I have only has micro HDMI, but I can pick up an adapter tomorrow anyways so no biggie.

[Anonymous No.8246241]

>>8246208
https://shmups.system11.org/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=64797
this might be of help in getting the right resolutions for emulating

[Anonymous No.8246273]

>>8243740
I have

[Anonymous No.8246349]

[Anonymous No.8246379]

Why are VGA monitors selling for hundreds of dollars but huge TV's with component or composite sell for pennies?

I bought a HDMI to VGA dac assuming it would be a cakewalk to find old monitors.

Guess I'm buying an HDMI to composite dac?

[Anonymous No.8246381]

I can't find an answer to this for some reason, but how might one convert scart sync on luma to csync? What options are there?

[Anonymous No.8246498]

[Anonymous No.8246550]

>>8242595
Don't listen to the other fags, Time Crisis machines had screens like that one, probably one of the best ways to play lightgun games, the thing is that they are kinda fragile since the screen is a very thin sheet of plastic and no glass. Also the crt light-bulbs wear out and it ain't easy to find replacements.

[Anonymous No.8246552]

>>8246379
E celebs continue to push pvm and vga monitors. Big and nice consumer sets are still to common to drive the prices up

[Anonymous No.8246554]

>>8246498
so much soul and virginity on the same image

[Anonymous No.8246574]

>>8246498

[Anonymous No.8246576]

>>8246379
Because the value of the huge CRT is offset by the cost of the owner having a huge ass TV hauled out of their home.

[Anonymous No.8246580]

>>8243783
I have found a Sanyo with component and after calibrating the settings with 240p test suits it looks pretty damn good. I got it for about 15$, i was going to pick up a big ass Sony Wega flat screen crt (I think that it was over 30 inches) but the dude had this one at the side of the Wega, once i saw that it had a curved screen i decided to grab the Sanyo and i don't regret it.

[Anonymous No.8246629]

>>8246580
nice, honestly I prefer the look of non Sony sets

[Anonymous No.8246830]

>>8246381
You're looking for a Sync stripper, although I've never heard of something that won't take luma sync

[Anonymous No.8247120]

>>8246050
I wish I still had my childhood bedroom TV. I had it for a while, like until 2010, and I still used it with my PS1 even though I had an HDtv by that point too. I really have no idea why the hell I got rid of it.

[Anonymous No.8247136]

how bad of an idea is it to do DVI ->Composite to work on a CRT?

[Anonymous No.8247137]

>>8243740
I thought about it but I'd only really go to the effort of RGB modding my TV if I had one that had pretty much perfect picture, which my current one doesn't. Plus once you're done with the TV then you have to deal with getting cables for everything else which seems like a big expensive pain in the ass too.

[Anonymous No.8247227]

>>8245113
what are the proper precautions

[Anonymous No.8247294]

So I got me a Trinitron and everything works fine. Is there an easy way to hook a pc to it via picrel or do I use a vga to composite converter?

[Anonymous No.8247475]

>>8247294
you're talking about a trinitron TV rather than a trinitron PC monitor i assume
pc graphics card output 31 KHz signal, consumer TV CRTs use 15 KHz
Look up CRT Emudriver or other methods to get 15 KHz. You need a supported graphics card, wich mostly comes down to having an ATI Radeon as far as I remember but look up the compatibility list just in case.

[Anonymous No.8247505]

>>8246241
Thanks anon!
>>8247120
Same here, my old tv would’ve been great to have around right now.

[Anonymous No.8247515]

>>8243252
>>8243237
There's a reason composite signals look shit on LCD's but not CRT's, got some tasty colour bleeding on the latter

[Anonymous No.8247560]

>>8247136
Dumb and expensive to do right, but can be done.
https://www.axunworks.com/product-p341706.html

[Anonymous No.8247618]

>>8246381
You need a simple circuit based on a LM1881 IC.
https://www.retrorgb.com/syncstripperdiy.html

[Anonymous No.8247841]

>>8246552
I think it's more about the scale. People have space for a smaller crt if they have a shelf to put it on. Bigger ones need a dedicated stand and space in the room etc...
But if you want to be a shitter and you have the space you could buy up all the huge 5 dollar crts at goodwill and stir then til they become rare enough to be worth money.

[Anonymous No.8247880]

So apparently my Sony Trinitron only has a SINGLE speaker on top? i used to think that opening was for letting heat out, but it looks like its for just a single (mono) speaker... a bit dissapointing
i have no idea what im doing btw, ive been warned by some guys that my CRT could kill me while some others told me that i'd have to be really stupid to get hurt while tinkering with it... i just want to adjust the positioning and size a bit

[Anonymous No.8247939]

>>8243067
Didn't that line come out the same time as the original playstation?

[Anonymous No.8247953]

>>8247880
You can do that with a universal remote. Look it up.

[Anonymous No.8248023]

Help me calibrate. What settings do am I looking for to fix these bends near the bottom half on the left and right?

[Anonymous No.8248030]

>>8248023
>Flat CRT
Good luck

[Anonymous No.8248053]

>>8248023
slap magnets on the top and bottom of the tube, or recap everything

[Anonymous No.8248101]

>>8239664
I wouldn't buy any that aren't powered. And I'd use monstercable I can find for the output. Avoid signal loss kiddo.

[Anonymous No.8248389]

>look up pvm prices on ebay
>$500-$700
What the fuck, really? Is this how much they cost?

[Anonymous No.8248417]

>>8247939
Looks like it would go better with a PSone.

[Anonymous No.8248512]

>>8248389
>Is this how much they cost?
I dunno man, you're the one that just checked. You tell us.

[Anonymous No.8248601]

Anyone have have experience with a sony PVM-14N2U?

[Anonymous No.8248657]

>>8248389
>$500-$700
for which models?

[Anonymous No.8248678]

Is there any difference between wii/virtual counsel and an actual SNES for example when it comes to display on a CRT?

[Anonymous No.8248680]

>>8248678
not really, the wii is a very good snes emulator that can do 240p

[Anonymous No.8248880]

>>8247618
I thought LM1881 was only good for stripping and cleaning the sync from composite video, NOT a sync on luma?

[Anonymous No.8249107]

>>8248880
Why wouldn't it work with a luma+sync signal? It just takes the sync portion of the signal and discards everything else.

[Anonymous No.8249139]

>>8248678
virtual console had some issues afaik, like outputting 480p and dimming the colors and blurring thigns a bit on certain systems it emulates
and i wouldnt be surprised if homebrew emulators were better. Just avoid wiimednafen if you're PAL

[Anonymous No.8249272]

>>8245291

[Anonymous No.8249658]

>>8248023
Looks like a bit of pincushion to me.
For the love of God anon, write down all the calibration settings before you change them, because it's super easy to fuck up geometry to the point where you will wish it looked as good as it did before you fucked with it.

[Anonymous No.8249842]

any recommendations for 14 inch VGA CRT for linux use? the less depth the better but i dont know if that's really a possibility

[Anonymous No.8249875]

>>8248601
What about it

[Anonymous No.8249953]

>>8249842
>>8234272
I don't get why people ask this, you can't just walk into the magic crt store and get exactly what you want
just get anything you find that isn't overpriced

[Anonymous No.8249987]

>>8247560
>>8247560
>dumb
its not
>that link
Total scam. DVI is already fucking analog. You dont need a box. Any cheap adapter works

[Anonymous No.8250252]

Just found out there were Internet capable CRTs. Found pic related at work. I assume internet connection doesn't work anymore though. Plus, it's covered in water and I already have a bunch of CRTs.

[Anonymous No.8250258]

>>8250252
>Internet capable CRTs
but why though

[Anonymous No.8250260]

>>8238662
Not that heavy. Picked up a widescreen 28" about a month ago and was pretty light. It's only awkward to pick it up if it doesn't have handles.

[Anonymous No.8250269]

>>8250258
>Bush Internet was a joint venture between Alba (80%) and Virgin (20%); created specifically to sell simple "one button connect", low cost, mass market Internet devices aimed at the average person in the street.
http://www.computinghistory.org.uk/det/38105/Bush-Internet-TV-IBX101/

[Anonymous No.8250280]

>>8243067
I have a bunch of CRTs already, but small ones are so cute that I would get them in a heartbeat, but I haven't seen any in England yet.

[Anonymous No.8250308]

What are these lines? Is my TV broken? I dug it out of my parents basement about a year ago, it was there for about 7 years.

[Anonymous No.8250323]

>>8250308
Firgot pic

[Anonymous No.8250337]

>>8250323
>>8250308
oof, that's a potentially bad one
Deflection caps are the first thing I'd replace there
those white ones are retrace lines but the RGB ones being closer to centre image can lead to vertical collapse and failure

[Anonymous No.8250376]

>>8250308
>>8250323
Looks like mild vertical foldover. Usually very easy fix, just replace the pump up capacitor.

[Anonymous No.8250615]

>>8245291
>>8249272
The scanlines are too visible. Nobody had those when they were young...

[Anonymous No.8250649]

>>8239349
My trinitrons speakers get stupidly loud so i haven't hooked anything external up

[Anonymous No.8250716]

>>8249953
there could be things to look out for that i'm not familiar with because i dont know anything about crts
>lurk more
im doing that already you bastard

[Anonymous No.8250717]

>>8250323
Do not adjust those lines with the service manual if available, could actually kill your tv. You need to replace capacitors.

[Anonymous No.8250724]

>>8234243
I am currently doing research on driving CRTs. Does not seem to be too difficult. Would be nice to design a generic CRT controller, adding 31khz support to standard TVs would be pretty nice.

[Anonymous No.8251004]

>>8250724
https://twitter.com/TubeTimeUS/status/1424106486163116032?s=20
somebody did that recently, and it's open source

[Anonymous No.8251418]

RIP. Just killed my trini. Felt a spark when adjusting the neck rings. Does this now.

[Anonymous No.8251596]

>>8251418
F

[Anonymous No.8251649]

>>8251418
shit, son

[Anonymous No.8251734]

>>8251418
get fucked homo

[Anonymous No.8251743]

>>8251418
Check the schematics and see if you can get the vertical deflection IC. If you are lucky changing it fixes the TV.

[Anonymous No.8251823]

>>8250615
This is kind of true. Video game screenshots in magazines showed scanlines but publishers used RGB monitors and a great photography setup. EGM even wrote about their setup once and confirmed they used a very expensive PVM of some type.

At home most people in North America had shit cables so most never saw crisp scan lines on consoles, but we did have arcades with very nice RBG displays.The dream was always to have a display at home look as good as the magazine photos and arcade monitors, and this meant we wanted visible scan lines long before we even knew what they were called.

[Anonymous No.8251831]

>>8251823
Cables don't have anything to do with scanlines though

[Anonymous No.8251839]

>>8251831
Ok a mix of shit tv's and shit cables.

[Anonymous No.8251851]

Is it possible to remove the guts of one CRT and place it in the frame of another?

[Anonymous No.8251873]

>>8251418
Always earth yourself on something before working on electronics dude

[Anonymous No.8251878]

>>8251839
Maybe turn down your contrast

[Anonymous No.8252029]

>>8251823
>>8251831
>>8251839
it also depends on the size of the display itself but tldr
low tvl displays have really small gaps
high tvl displays have really big gaps
people will try to convince you their preferred way is the definitive experience and looks objectively the best, but in my honest opinion if you're sitting at a reasonable distance (arms length even) from the screen it doesn't really matter that much

[Anonymous No.8252315]

>>8237756
I just love seeing those little bricks forming a beautiful image.

[Anonymous No.8252397]

>>8237756
Zoom out of the screen, I want to see the TV, it doesn't look like 240p

[Anonymous No.8252404]

Tried to make some geometry adjustments on my set, didn't like them, and realized I never made a note of the original values. Don't make the same mistake as me

[Anonymous No.8252416]

>>8252404
on mine, as long as you don't save, you can cycle the power and it returns to the previous config

[Anonymous No.8252459]

>>8252416
I tried exactly that, but I must have saved them by mistake. The top section of the screen was what bothered me initially, and now I just can't get the vertical lines straight at all. Wish I had a before picture to compare it to, it's not much worse but now I'm super aware of the screwed up geometry

[Anonymous No.8252465]

[Anonymous No.8252469]

>>8252459
Stop staring at test patterns dude you'd never notice that in an actual game

[Anonymous No.8252472]

>>8249658
And here's the comment I should have read before I looked up the service manual.

[Anonymous No.8252475]

>>8252404
just factory reset it.

[Anonymous No.8252478]

>>8252475
That's the mistake I made. I looked up the default settings thinking it would be a good baseline to start with, but those just gave me an hourglass shaped picture

[Anonymous No.8252498]

>>8252475
Doesn't a factory reset reset it to the defaults before it's been calibrated in the factory?

[Anonymous No.8252509]

>>8252478
low iq

>>8252498
yes, dont do that ever without making notes before.

[Anonymous No.8252515]

>>8252509
I'm probably just gonna get rid of it

[Anonymous No.8252694]

https://shmups.system11.org/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=68134
I want to do this component mod on my KV-27V42 just like this guy did it, but I barely understand exactly what he's done in the end. Is there a source I can read up on crt modding so I can educate myself better?

[Anonymous No.8253060]

I want to shoot everyone who posts a listing of a TV with no information whatsoever and the only pictures are front pictures that are so blurry you can't even tell what brand it is. Like it would kill them to focus their camera and take a picture of anything that would also identify the model.

that is all

[Anonymous No.8253078]

>>8253060
>one low res image of the front of the tv
t-thanks grandad

[Anonymous No.8253336]

I know this is the CRT thread, but I'd like to ask you fellas something because you would know a lot more about handling SD signals than the average /vr/ browser:
I guess overall, what's your opinions on 480i and 480p?

I very much like the way scanlines appear, so 480i has always felt like a sin- and I'm not privileged enough to own a multiformat monitor (let alone a high TVL unit to retain clear scanline separation even with 480i/480p) so 31Khz is exclusively the realm of flatscreens for me. Would it be a good idea to purchase a downscaler to "line-halve" >480p/interlaced signals, to play 6th and 7th gen titles on a CRT? Or is that too aggressive in darkening the picture and distorting the details? I imagine it'll harm text legibility if nothing else.
Basically I'm on the fence about getting the new retrotink specifically because it can allegedly do downscaling as well as upscaling with motion adaptive deinterlacing, and the option to either play on a CRT via downscaling (if handled well) or to get a get simulacrum of the CRT experience with low-lag deinterlacing+upscaling on a 4K OLED sounds very appealing. But it costs a big chunk of change and I don't know if we're expecting some kinda retro signal Renaissance with all the FPGA stuff that's happened recently.

[Anonymous No.8253365]

>>8253336
Eh?
I think 480i looks good, at least on my CRT it does but you gotta use RGB I think for it to look good

[Anonymous No.8253461]

>>8253060
And all you can make out is some fat bald boomer in the reflection on the screen.
At first you laugh at his stupidity, until you realise he looks just like you.

[Anonymous No.8253467]

[Anonymous No.8253895]

>>8253336
6th and 7th gen can do native 480i, I would trust internal rendering at native resolution over downscaling

[Anonymous No.8254262]

>>8253895
>>8253336
wiiU too. Although, the text gets more and more unreadable as the newer the games get, and especially if you dont have a widescreen crt or if you have under 20" crt. At least on 576i/PAL60, I used to play my ps3 on my crt many years ago until I bought flat tv. Only time when playing ps3-gen(ignoring wii) on crt is superior is motion clarity, my LG CX 55" upscales 720p games nicely, and it looks great, but in motion 30fps games, and lets be honest 90% of ps3 games can barely hold 20fps, looks jittery/laggy unless you move the camera slowly or if the game is mostly static. Its not as bad as I made it sound like, but the crt always has crystal clear motion clarity that even the austic 300hz gaming monitors dont have, which doesn't do a difference to/help 30/60fps games anyway.

For sixth gen, OSSC + rgb scart cables works well and looks great on my LG CX, but you do get the flicker from BOB interlacing which some people hate, and if the game jumps between resolutions then you get few seconds of black screen until OSSC adjusts. The upcoming pro model and retrotink 5x dont have these problems, but they also cost 5x more, that or just play on CRT like developers intended™.

[Anonymous No.8254318]

Any bay area anons know about the guy in Redwood City who's always got CRTs up on Craigslist? Dude seems to have a warehouse of them, anyone actually bought from him?

He seems to be the only source of computer monitors and I can find dick all for free out here.

[Anonymous No.8254324]

>>8254318
>He seems to be the only source of computer monitors
dude you live in california, you have by far the easiest access in the country to any kind of crt. How is it possible you can't find anything?

[Anonymous No.8254342]

>>8254324
Why would it be any easier here? If anything it'd be harder since there'd be more retro enthusiasts out here.

[Anonymous No.8254367]

Just installed Voltour RGB mod, playing on my RGB modded NTSC TV. Gonna run through both N64 castlevania games then maybe Blue Stinger on Dreamcast. Still waiting on my degaussing tool to come in, hoping I can then move the speakers closer then use the degaussing tool to fix the color issues having the speakers close to the TV causes. If that works out the way I hope i'm moving the CRT back into the corner so I can put a desk where there the TV is now for my WinXP build.

[Anonymous No.8254369]

>>8254342
california had a huge 90s economy, easy access to japanese imports, tons of production studios and a glut of electronics in general. There are tons of nice monitors that pop up there all the time

[Anonymous No.8254373]

>>8254369
Where do you suggest I look besides Craigslist and Facebook Marketplace?

[Anonymous No.8254378]

>>8254367
your next step is to tear up the carpet and repaint the walls

[Anonymous No.8254383]

>>8254367
>Voltour RGB mod
Retarded faggot.

[Anonymous No.8254392]

>>8254367
doesn't the magnetic field of the speaker change as it plays?

[Anonymous No.8254469]

>>8254367
You want to spread the two speakers wider than the TV to get a good stereo base for wider soundstage. Placing them too close to each other is going to weaken the effect unless you sit very close.

[Anonymous No.8254481]

>>8254378
Carpet is in good shape though, do plan to paint the walls a medium grey, not sure yet

>>8254383
What part of voltours RGB mod do you take issue with?

>>8254392
When I had it close the distortion it caused stayed the same when I had music blasting, so to me that says it's just the magnetic field from the permet magnets themselves. Hard to find decent magnetically shielded speakers anymore

>>8254469
Sure, in an ideal world. But, I only have XYZ amount of room, if I leave the CRT between the windows I can't really fit a desk for my WinXP/Win98 PC. If I tuck it into the corner everything fits perfectly.


Pic related is what the speakers do to the TV, i've seen other people with speakers this close so i'm not sure why my TV is having such trouble. Hoping the degaussing wand does the trick.

[Anonymous No.8254491]

>>8254481
>>>8254383
>What part of voltours RGB mod do you take issue with?
Probably the fact that he can solder better than he can.

[Anonymous No.8254548]

>>8254342
this motherfucker doesn't even know how good he has it
do you know how many fucking video studios you have in your state? There are so many goddamn pvms near you, you don't even know

[Anonymous No.8254557]

>>8253365
It can be alright, but given a choice I'd always prefer the look of 240p or 480p.

>>8253895
>>8254262
Full disclosure: I mainly play PS2 and GameCube games, and nowadays ISO-patching/bootloading + Swiss respectively let you force 240p/480p with decent and perfect compatibility respectively (some PS2 games do misbehave though).
The RT5x supposedly downscales by chucking out every second line (unlike the interpolation function of the extron emotia/RGB Interface DDSP switch) so it should be robust and lag-free.

>For sixth gen, OSSC + rgb scart cables works well and looks great on my LG CX, but you do get the flicker from BOB interlacing which some people hate, and if the game jumps between resolutions then you get few seconds of black screen until OSSC adjusts. The upcoming pro model and retrotink 5x dont have these problems, but they also cost 5x more, that or just play on CRT like developers intended™.
The motion-adaptive deinterlacing (vs. bob) is like a game-changer for me because I'm someone that doesn't like the bob/weave techniques. I was just gonna grab/build a GBSC for it, but the RT5x has the downscaling function too, and I'll be honest I like the look of the new filters.
Do we know anything about the Pro OSSC coming up? The guys who made the N64 digital are also working on something that simulates phosphor bleed (eg. see the moonlight reflecting on the water in the background in my image), allegedly, and that's really cool if so. Missing out on that kinda thing, and the colour space issue on the tink is the only reason I'm worried about sinking $300 into it now.

[Anonymous No.8254717]

>>8254481
>I only have XYZ amount of room
Yeah, I know better than anyone. It just makes me sad that so many people have to compromise as much as me to fit their setups into their rooms.

[Anonymous No.8254797]

>>8254717
For most retro games, speakers right to the side of the TV is good enough. Most of these games are played with TV speakers anyways

[Anonymous No.8254809]

For me, it's slot mask.

[Anonymous No.8254891]

>grew up in an area where VGA CRTs were everywhere
>Eventually couldn't even sell one for 5 bucks
>Try to get one now
>Minimum 200 bucks with 150 dollars shipping

God damnit.

[Anonymous No.8254918]

>>8254891
where?

[Anonymous No.8254956]

>>8254891
Come to Chicago I'll give you one for free

[Anonymous No.8254994]

Just beat the first two DKC games, moving onto the 3rd one which I remember not liking. So far the levels are a little basic and the music is a step back. Hope it ramps up fast.

[Anonymous No.8255010]

>>8254994
it is good. it had the weird decision of starting off with the worst music in the entire trilogy, and the unnecessary enemy redesigns are worse than 2, it gets better though, one detail I always love is the echo effect on the enemies screams on waterfall levels

[Anonymous No.8255176]

>>8254548
I live far away from hollywood though

[Anonymous No.8255178]

>>8255176
And as we all know, any CRTs located in Hollywood will cease all functioning and implode once they cross over the border of Hollywood.

[Anonymous No.8255392]

why do s video cables come with the yellow video cable too?

[Anonymous No.8255398]

>>8255392
so you can switch between sources and masturbate to the improved signal quality.

[Anonymous No.8255474]

how are my squares looking?

[Anonymous No.8255476]

>>8255398
Light guns?

[Anonymous No.8255478]

>>8255474
Trash. Factory reset. Start over.

[Anonymous No.8255481]

>>8255478
what's wrong with them so I know for next time?

[Anonymous No.8255486]

>>8255481
Next time, boot your console, instead of going to 240pTestSuite, boot a game and play it instead of staring at squares.

[Anonymous No.8255516]

>>8255481
Nothing, it’s just the resident shitposter that posts for (you)s
Don’t reply to him

[Anonymous No.8255707]

>>8254557
>Do we know anything about the Pro OSSC coming up?
https://videogameperfection.com/2021/09/24/newsletter-issue-about/
yup its coming soon-ish

[Anonymous No.8255846]

>>8255474
Geometry looks fine to me. The colours don't seem perfectly lined up around the edges though (unless that's just your camera making it look weird in a picture) but it looks good enough and I wouldn't bother trying to fix that (fucking convergence).

Just play some games on it, the test patterns are made to exaggerate any possible picture issues to make them easier to fix. You don't notice shit while playing a game unless it's actually bad.

[Anonymous No.8256065]

>>8255707
>Mister compatible “polyphase scaler coefficients” – download filters, scanline effects etc. directly from the Mister repositories and add them to the SD card, or create your own and share the files with the community.
Huh. I have a MiSTer but I never even thought to test out scaler effects because I'd always just use it with my CRT, as the consoles it replicates primarily output 240p.
Anyway I really was/am excited for some more advanced phosphor emulation stuff like I mentioned earlier (investigating further it's called the Morph, from Pixel FX), and it'd be great if we could go so far as to simulate a curved screen, but that might be years down the track still. For now I should just have a play around and see if these MiSTer filters are any good, because being honest the ones the RT5x has look fairly decent already compared to the lazy halfbaked SLG effects you'd see 5-10 years ago and the RT5x could be a good buy while waiting for a next-gen 4k scaler or something.

But yeah thanks for the link. I've got testing to do, so I'll go ahead and shut up now.

[Anonymous No.8256114]

>>8252515
Kill yourself.

[Anonymous No.8256401]

>>8253467
Game?

[Anonymous No.8256454]

>>8256401
Mugan

[Anonymous No.8256472]

>>8256401
Rumble fish

[Anonymous No.8257278]

>>8256114
okay, and I'm taking the tv with me

[Anonymous No.8257653]

>>8257278
Do the funny shock-yourself-to-death-with-it thing, and post

[Anonymous No.8257659]

>>8256401
Mario

[Anonymous No.8258647]

prerendered

[Anonymous No.8258727]

>>8247294
That's a digital rgb input I'm pretty sure. Used only for cga/ega , like an amiga,old Mac ect. Not at all compatible with the newer analogue rgb output of modern computers. I know it sounds strange, but digital rgb is the older technology.

[Anonymous No.8258819]

>>8258727
no it's not, every sony monitor I've ever seen with that connector takes analog rgb

[Anonymous No.8258887]

They make db25 to db9 cables and adapters. They're fairly cheap, less than $10. What is that, a pvm 1910q?

[Anonymous No.8260131]

calibrated with a colorimeter, feels real good

[Anonymous No.8260865]

I added a bunch of custom resolutions for retro gaming purposes but Win10 seems to hide anything lower than 480p on the detailed resolution list. Any work around for this? I wanted to see if 240p worked. I know fur sure 350p works since its one the default resolutions.

[Anonymous No.8260891]

>>8234243
I always wanted to ask but didn't want to get yelled at, is there any type of CRT that renders super crisp, almost like the pixels on LCD? I like the I like how CRT has fast display but I really have a hard time distinguishing what is happening on screen without more discrete pixels

[Anonymous No.8260901]

>>8260865
Not using Windows 10 is the best workaround for everything.

[Anonymous No.8260902]

>>8239069
honest question, did you not grow up with a CRT? because i feel like anyone who did would realize that's a better result than is even possible with most sets

[Anonymous No.8260918]

>>8260901
yeah well, im kinda forced to use it on my main PC

[Anonymous No.8260945]

>>8260902
i did but its been a long time since, i wasnt as perceptive to image quality back then, and i never used some grid pattern like this to see wether the geometry looks right or not.

[Anonymous No.8260957]

>>8260865
Can you change it in your graphics driver

[Anonymous No.8260959]

>>8260957
yup! that fixed it. Turns out its simply better to input the resolution on nvidia control panel
Guide related: https://www.reddit.com/r/retrogaming/comments/6aaw88/guide_how_to_run_retroarch_in_240p_on_your_vga/

[Anonymous No.8260965]

>>8260891
Displaying lower resolutions then a display is capable of results in a very sharp image. For instance playing 480p on a mid to high end VGA monitor or 240p on a high tvl bvm

[Anonymous No.8261076]

>>8260901
>>8260957
got it working, but now the only thing that concerns me is the high pitch noise that comes out of the CRT on 240p resolution...
used CVT to create the resolution and just put in 120 Hz 320x240

[Anonymous No.8261193]

oh man PC scanlines are something else.. i'd probably need to spend way more money to get this quality on a TV

[Anonymous No.8261226]

>>8261076
>>8261193
Not really a fan of how games look on these, you can pretty much just see every pixel like a modern screen
I’m sure they look great for PC gaming though

[Anonymous No.8261236]

>>8234243
if I ever get a crt again, I'm going to be doing this to it

https://youtu.be/Ny___hSSC_k

[Anonymous No.8261242]

when i rotate my PC monitor to the left, the colors seem to get washed off, but if i rotate it back to its normal position, colors get normal saturation again... any reason for this?

[Anonymous No.8261271]

>>8261242
Magnets or gas
Turn it and then degauss, see if that makes a difference, but realistically you shouldn’t turn it back and forth

[Anonymous No.8261286]

>>8261271
oh yeah degauss does the trick, i guess its electromagnetic wizardry

[Anonymous No.8261383]

>>8261286
It's Earth's magnetic alignment

[Anonymous No.8261762]

So I have a graphics card that only outputs digital signals, like all modern cards. If I get a CRT monitor, can I hook it up with a digital-to-VGA converter (I know that'll impose a framerate hit but it's fine) and still output arbitrary resolutions to it?

[Anonymous No.8261801]

>>8261762
yes, limited by how good your converter is

[Anonymous No.8261838]

>>8261762
>I know that'll impose a framerate hit but it's fine
???
>still output arbitrary resolutions to it?
depends on what you want exactly, but most DACs should be fine
Startech DP2VGAHD20 and Delock 62967 are very good
Tripp Lite and Tendak also make decent ones if you wanna cheap out, but some people say they crush the black levels and stuff (works on my machine tho)

[Anonymous No.8261846]

>>8261838
My understanding was that converters necessarily slow down video output a bit, because the signal has to pass through the extra hardware. Maybe the word I was looking for was lag, or maybe I'm just wrong. The rest of that is super helpful though, I'll look for those.

[Anonymous No.8261871]

>>8261846
there is no noticeable lag unless you're doing some scaling fuckery or have the shittiest dac known to man

[Anonymous No.8262740]

every time i turn on my crt the image needs to scroll up from the bottom. sometimes it does it when i reset my console as well, and sometimes even in game between screen transitions. i think it it becomes less frequent the longer the tv is running. is there anything i could do to remedy this or will i just have to live with it?

[Anonymous No.8263080]

My Samsung CRT is warping and fucking up any composite signal (RCA in the front or composite SCART in the back, it doesn't matter), with 2 "stains" slowly appearing, blue on the left and yellow on the right side of screen. I REALLY don't want to transport it to repair shop, because RGB SCART signal works perfectly fine, none of the problems appear even after the long play session.
Is it generally safe to keep using this TV just for RGB signal or will it blow up and fucking kill me in the near future?

[Anonymous No.8263153]

>>8262740
Some capacitors along the vertical circuit must be going out, or maybe sync, or both

[Anonymous No.8263158]

>>8263080
You're gonna die, give it to me

[Anonymous No.8263382]

I have just got hold of a KV-21M3B. I can't see the settings menu but I can browse and use it. The manual says the settings are
- Picture
- Colour
- Brightness
- Sharpness
How would I go about calibrating the first three?

[Anonymous No.8264859]

>>8263382
>I can't see the settings menu but I can browse and use it

wat

[Anonymous No.8265857]

hello darkness my old friend...

[Anonymous No.8265885]

>>8263080
Your crt has aids
t. fellow aids haver

[Anonymous No.8265979]

>>8263080
>he owns a Gooksung TV

[Anonymous No.8265986]

>>8263080
probably the speaker causing magnetic disturbance
either power it down for a couple of minutes and turn it back on to degauss
or manually degauss if you have the tool for it

[Anonymous No.8266184]

The first good level in DKC3, playing through the series back to back, like I am and when you do that the drop off in quality is very apparent.

[Anonymous No.8266632]

>>8251418
did you repair it?

[Anonymous No.8266684]

Does pic related works for True S-video?

[Anonymous No.8266691]

>>8255474
Looks pretty good to me geometry-wise. I would try an overall sharpness adjustment located on the flyback. It kind of works like an overall convergence adjustment and has the least risk of screwing shit up imo. Find a sweet spot where convergence is best overall, close it up, and never ever touch it again. 9 times out of 10 you'll be wishing you could go back when you really start messing with stuff.

[Anonymous No.8266703]

How do you feel about the PSone LCD screen that goes over the console? Was surprised how nice it was, honestly.

[Anonymous No.8266935]

>>8266703
it can look sharp because it's so small but in terms of image quality I wouldn't even consider it. It's fun to use for other reasons

[Anonymous No.8266969]

>>8266935
Fair enough. It's been nice to have to play games near my bed comfily.
With all the new monitors and stuff like the Retrotink 5X, have people found anything close to the CRT in quality, or are things like the scanlines too much to want to give up? Can't use a CRT cuz my eyes are shit, and all the modern monitors nowadays seem too big. Wish there was something good that was 18 inches wide or less.

[Anonymous No.8266990]

>>8266684
lol

[Anonymous No.8267006]

Playing Lunar 2 Eternal Blue Complete on my Sharp CRT 13VT N100. Had this tv since I was a kid and it still goes strong. Works like a charm. I plan on hitting up my Wii to play some Metroid Fusion and the Prime Trilogy. Beat Dread the other day and I've been having some cravings for more metroid.

[Anonymous No.8267045]

>>8266684
nop

[Anonymous No.8267474]

>>8266632
Nah. Do you want it?

[Anonymous No.8267701]

>>8237641
Commodore 1701 and 1702 have front and rear inputs.


I hate digging around in behind to change the cables

[Anonymous No.8267705]

>>8267006
Very nice. Any thoughts you'd like to share about Dread?

[Anonymous No.8267709]

>>8238662
Got myself a 32" ADI that will go to 1600 x 1280. Looks dim until I upped the brightness.


Over 120 pounds, could barely move it.

[Anonymous No.8267716]

>>8239069
Slight geometry issue. Most came out factory fresh only slightly better.

[Anonymous No.8267725]

>>8242554
A lot of them have this anti-glare coating that's actually a fine-mesh of Soaker some fabric glued onto the screen. Go to Lazy Game Reviews on YouTube and find his video on removing this problem.

[Anonymous No.8267736]

>>8266684
Yus

[Anonymous No.8267754]

>>8267474
No, thanks.
but what you have to do is put the neck rings back in their original position, or even try to change the position of the rings when the TV is turn on and see if it changes
If you know what you're touching you won't die...

[Anonymous No.8267780]

>>8267754
nah its well beyond just ring positions. Something got shorted and the TV turns itself off after 4 seconds.

[Anonymous No.8267976]

Is a BVM-14F5E a good choice for retro gaming? There's 2 really near me. I've got a big high-end PC CRT but I want something better suited to SD content. I don't care too much about it being "authentic" like an old consumer set but I don't want it to look like this >>8234365
Thanks anons.

[Anonymous No.8267997]

>>8267976
Honestly mate they will look near the same unless you get really close to the screen

[Anonymous No.8268202]

3rd week in a row I'm unable to find a local VGA CRT.

Maybe I'll go in the attic and sell my SNES from my childhood to order an overpriced one online.

[Anonymous No.8268217]

Should I buy this for 15 bucks? It's a Toshiba, ate those component inputs?

I'd be going HDMI from a windows PC to component, and would need to buy an adapter.

[Anonymous No.8268226]

>>8268217
I think it's fairly big though, my wife would kill me.

Not sure if it's worth it for pc HDMI to s video adapter.

[Anonymous No.8268330]

>>8268217
yes thats component, toshiba branded it as "color stream" when it first came out. It would definitely look nice but there's not telling what shape the tv is in without testing it out. HDMI to comp is fine but you have to know what you're doing with the conversion to preserve 240p (and to get your computer to output 240p in the first place)

[Anonymous No.8268341]

>>8258647
SOUL

[Anonymous No.8268364]

>>8268330
Yeah I'm pretty sure my NUC won't do 240p unless it's a super res or something, definitely not 15hz since it's windows with integrated Intel graphics.

I might skip this one.

[Anonymous No.8268402]

>>8268364
Fuck no, just pick it up dude, unless it’s expensive or way far out

[Anonymous No.8268593]

>>8234243
I got this trinny for free
geometry isn't amazing (even after I fondled with it) and the colors need some adjusting but it's really bright, has component and makes me really happy
apologies for bad picture

[Anonymous No.8268597]

>>8268593
>geometry isn't amazing
looks fine

[Anonymous No.8268893]

>>8268597
its kinda fucked around the edges and the corners but I guess its fine and not really an issue under most circumstances

[Anonymous No.8269587]

playing a NTSC version of mario kart on my PAL wii on my PAL CRT i get a red tint all over my video signal (didnt appear before loading the game)
im using RGB cables so im not sure what the issue is here. (I use RGB cables bcuz my Trinitron is too old to know how to translate NTSC to PAL)

[Anonymous No.8269636]

>>8269587
That's a nintendont issue, use the pal version and select forcepal60, ntsc isos don't play through rgb on nintendont.

[Anonymous No.8269640]

>>8269587
You need to force PAL60 from your loaders settings/cheats. The reason for that(red tint) is that NTSC wii/mode cannot output RGB, as it uses those same pins for S-video that PAL wii/mode uses for RGB output.

[Anonymous No.8270039]

>>8269636
>nintendont
idk what that is
i use USB Loader GX
>>8269640
ok that seems to work, but after i select character and kart the game freezes on a black screen and idk wether its a wii problem or my hard disk

[Anonymous No.8270413]

>>8270039
Bad iso or hdd problem, I've ran ntsc mario kart wii before on pal wii no problems with the pal60 forced.

[Anonymous No.8270423]

>>8270413
turns out it was the hdd yeah, tough luck, works perfectly on another hard disk

[Anonymous No.8270560]

>>8234272
JVC i'Art

[Anonymous No.8270856]

>>8266990
>>8267045
>>8267736
I don't get it?

[Anonymous No.8271060]

>>8270560
JVC i'Meme

[Anonymous No.8271134]

Is KV-27V15 good? Probably for SNES, PS2, and Wii.

[Anonymous No.8271147]

irony = the free crt saved from the literal trash has the best geometry/size of any that i own

store owner gave it to me when i told him it was for sega titles

[Anonymous No.8271148]

>>8268593
i regret letting mine go so much anon
i had a HUGE one

[Anonymous No.8271175]

Where do you guys buy/get consumer CRT's from nowadays? A few years ago there used to be ok listings on ebay even though PVMs were already being overpriced, but now there's nothing. There are better listings on facebook marketplace, but I'm afraid of making a facebook account in all honesty.
What else do you guys use? How do you find out about places with CRTs irl?
Also am I fucked if I want to track down a widescreen CRT? I mainly play 6th-gen games and indies, so I imagine my games would mostly be 720p or 480p...

[Anonymous No.8271648]

>>8271175
Facebook Marketplace is the only option left in the US. Craigslist and eBay are both garbage. I've gotten amazing deals on FBM though, like a $100 FW-900 and $25 2070SB in 2019. It's all about your general location and how far you're willing to drive. In my case, a 12 hour round trip is fine on a day off. Only have to make the trip once to enjoy the tube for as long as it works.

[Anonymous No.8271667]

>>8271648
you really drive cross country for a tv? what's the farthest you've driven?

[Anonymous No.8271675]

>>8271667
Crossed three state lines and the Canadian border once. Around 1500 mile round trip all said and done. The longer you drive, the more time you should spend getting out and enjoying the stop a little. When I go to Minneapolis (10hr round trip), I stop in at Starcade and walk around the mall to stretch my legs, grab a bite to eat, and people watch. You can turn it into a mini vacation and not just a cannonball run.

[Anonymous No.8271762]

>>8271175
>>8271648
its still worth a shot going to the free section on craigslist and searching for "tv"
I keep seeing decent shit that I unfortunately can't pick up because I don't have the space
lot of large sony sets and hd/widescreen tvs that people are just desperate to get rid of

[Anonymous No.8271781]

>>8271675
that's pretty based

[Anonymous No.8271869]

>>8250252
tits or gtfo

[Anonymous No.8271970]

Whats the best way to connect an N64 to a VGA input monitor?

[Anonymous No.8272006]

>>8271667
4 hours for my recapped apple crt
has colorkill switch for black and white shit and incredible sharpening effect


overall worth it, but technically ridiculous

[Anonymous No.8272361]

>>8271970
Just emulate, you'll have to upscale

[Anonymous No.8272406]

Anyone have that Castlevania to Haunted castle CRT shitpost gif?

[Anonymous No.8272509]

>>8250258
>but why though
Same reason a lot of crap hardware is invented and sold at a loss: someone thought they could make money locking customers in.

This thing was contemporary to that, and with such an awful LCD that the CRT would have been a marked improvement. I did have one that I installed linux on and used for IRC in those days. Was a fun little machine, but if it hadn't been sold at a loss, would have been way overpriced for what it was.

Anyway, if it were me, I'd grab that sucker and see what still worked and didn't. Even if only the tube is good, a $100 universal arcade monitor chassis with it would make a good replacement for an arcade machine with a dead/burnt in display.

[Anonymous No.8272518]

>>8272361
I have original hardware. I don’t emulate things I own.

[Anonymous No.8272523]

Anyone near philly have something 27" with component inputs they're trying to offload?

[Anonymous No.8272531]

>>8272518
ironically emulating what you already own is the only legally sanctioned form of emulating. But the point is you will have to spend at least a decent amount of money to upscale your n64s shitty s-vid signal into a shittier 480p signal, when an emulator from a computer is free and miles more effective. There is literally no substantive reason to use hardware in this case

[Anonymous No.8272539]

>>8272531
Didn’t ask about emulation, faggot. If you have nothing worth saying then fuck off.

[Anonymous No.8272542]

>>8250252
>>8250258
>>8272509
I had one of these but just used it as a portable tv since its 14", it was a service you dialled into and could email with, controller opened up in the middle to reveal a little rubber keyboard, it wasn't meant for using the internet, more just emails, some light text reading and so on. It was more to lock you into virgin as an ISP since they offered it, they had shit service in my area so it never really worked and I used BT anyway so it was a bit of a moot point.

[Anonymous No.8272551]

>>8272539
>Didn’t ask about emulation
no, you just asked the stupidest fucking question in the thread so I rightfully assumed you were an retarded fucktard

[Anonymous No.8272952]

what do i do if my crt has aids?
https://streamable.com/ojugrv

[Anonymous No.8273012]

>>8272952

[Anonymous No.8273016]

So now I'm trying to make photos to the CRT with a reflex camera and manually adjusting it. This is my first try.


The cool thing is that you can zoom in a lot and see every pixel.

[Anonymous No.8273164]

Picked up a sony pvm-14n5u. How did I do? Also, is it worthwhile to rgb mod, or should I just stick to s-video?

[Anonymous No.8273252]

>>8273164
Play some games over s-video and see how you feel

[Anonymous No.8273424]

>>8238761
I thought MLiG was based

[Anonymous No.8273427]

>>8273424
they get a lot of free shit in order to give it good reviews

[Anonymous No.8273435]

>>8273427
That is true. Niggers got all of the Analogue Consoles while most of them are out of stock or worse, discontinued.

[Anonymous No.8273454]

>>8273252
Waiting a few days on an s video cable for my ps2

[Anonymous No.8273457]

>>8273164
>How did I do?
How should we know anon? You're the one who has it. How is it?

[Anonymous No.8273519]

>>8272952
I'd check the caps.

[Anonymous No.8273528]

>>8244151
20 years? i call BS. majority people were still using crts tvs up to 2006 very few even had widescreen crts. pretty sure lcd tvs wernt even a thing 20yrs ago, only monitors/laptops and they were rich AF.

zoomer larping

[Anonymous No.8273585]

>>8273164
I own one of these myself, and it's a good set just running it through s-video.

[Anonymous No.8273618]

>>8273585

[Anonymous No.8273626]

>>8273585

[Anonymous No.8273639]

>>8254367
ive got the same tv i think 20 sumit inch trinitron, used to have my speakers sitting each side of it, colours are now off, and the screen goes fucky/flicky with a shade of green, i have to smack the tv to get it to work right, is it fuckt or does it need degaussing, also wtf is degaussing?

[Anonymous No.8273673]

Probably a dumb question but maybe people here can help:
>got my HDMI -> RCA adapter today
>give it a whirl with my Retropie, pic related, looks good
>text a bit too small to read in the Pie config on this screen so I unplug the Pie and adjust settings on another larger monitor
>plug back into CRT, colors are fucked, all text/visuals distorted, reds are blue, etc
>ohfuck.jpeg
>try it on other monitor again, colors are fine
>???
>test Macbook on same CRT just to see if its one of the cables
>Macbook has some problems, distortions and color swaps
One of the pins is now loose on the video-input cable on the RCA cables, is that the problem? Have never had this happen before with past monitors.

[Anonymous No.8273689]

>>8273673
Looks like incorrect colour encoding

[Anonymous No.8273727]

>>8273528
No he is correct. Plasma began being adopted in early 2000s and DLP in 2002 which is when I got my Samsung 50". By 2005 these costs came and most of my friends had one at this point. Regretfully most of my PS2 experiences were on that shit Samsung DLP TV. Eventually LCD took over by the PS3 era.

CRT obviously existed at this time and were better for gaming, but everyone was too busy with watching Gladiator on their new 50" tv to care.

[Anonymous No.8273731]

>>8273673
if a pin is damaged this will cause that issue, on my pc i use dvi adapter to hdmi, if the dvi adaper gets knocked my colours go funny, will do the same with vga as well,

as for small unreadable text, this is expected its a low res crt, i used to plug my pc into my crt, either using s-video or yellow rca from my gpu, it was only good for watching videos.

[Anonymous No.8273782]

>>8273731
Gotcha gotcha, I’ll pick up a new RCA cable soon then.
Also, aah yeah, its expected but all the games I played had legible text and the Pie’s menus were fine too. Just the command prompt stuff was a little too small. Interested to try some other stuff from my Mac like Deltarune (did try but colors and text were fucky wucky, latter had an almost 3D effect but would’ve been fine otherwise.

[Anonymous No.8273796]

>>8273727
i was gonna say unless he had a plasma or projection tv, but even then in 2001/02 they were expensive AF literally no one had one, no one i knew at least, and i knew alot of people,

my mate was gonna sell me his 50" DLP in 2006 for £50, thats wen everyone switched to digital/lcd

i used to fix a lot of tvs at work at the time, everyone had lcds on their bench they could watch while working, my mate had a 60" DLP on his bench, i brought in my ps2, lightguns and time crisis, trying not to jizz my pants, then found it didnt work

[Anonymous No.8273814]

>>8273782
here's when I got undertale running at 480p on my vga monitor, this is zoomed and hard to look at but it was a treat to play at this res

[Anonymous No.8273823]

>>8273782
it just depends on your resolution and the size of the text, i think i know what you mean with the 3d effect where the text stands out sometimes making it unreadable, on my windows desktop text was difficult to read like folder/file names, but subs in anime was fine

[Anonymous No.8273878]

>>8273528
>20 years? i call BS. majority people were still using crts tvs up to 2006 very few even had widescreen crts. pretty sure lcd tvs wernt even a thing 20yrs ago, only monitors/laptops and they were rich AF
LCD monitors existed then, http://edition.cnn.com/2002/TECH/ptech/03/19/top.lcd.monitors.idg/

And weren't too expensive even. Not cheap like now, but not a rich persons only thing. By about 15 years ago LCD TVs were beating out plasma, though, and you only could get a CRT tv at the cheapest crappiest end of things.

[Anonymous No.8273881]

>>8273814
Waah this rocks!! Excited to give this/Deltarune and the Hylics games a go on my CRT.
>>8273823
Gotcha gotcha, yeah I’ll have to try it again when I get another cable and hopefully stuff works a little better. Pie emu was stellar tho until the color fuckery.

[Anonymous No.8273882]

why yes I do use a CRT monitor for old and new games

[Anonymous No.8273953]

this emulated picture is whatever, but its nice how people are trying to get reflected light from the tv to the edges of the tv plastic in an emulated image.

[Anonymous No.8273982]

Bought these Sony ss-x10a speakers which were optional pairings with my profeel, they're the bigger ones that didn't attach so I'll have to get some stands to hold them

[Anonymous No.8274016]

>>8273882
Based Mr. Braun

[Anonymous No.8274054]

> found a nice tv for a fair price
> buyer hasn't responded

[Anonymous No.8274114]

>>8274054
>TV I don't want is free
>TV I want is over priced

[Anonymous No.8274147]

Any of you guys hear the constant high pitch noise of having a CRT on ? I heard as you get older you stop hearing it but i can clearly hear it and it can be kinda annoying so i turn the volume up.
Also when the image gets darker it gets quieter and when the TV lights up a lot or goes full white it gets louder. How do you guys cope with this, if you hear it at all?

[Anonymous No.8274278]

>>8274147
15khz is not that bad unless your eardrums are perforated, otherwise just get a VGA monitor instead

[Anonymous No.8274332]

[Anonymous No.8274352]

>>8274332
How do you take a picture of a CRT without it being ruined by scanlines?

[Anonymous No.8274353]

>>8274352
Probably turn it off first

[Anonymous No.8274419]

>>8274353
What?

[Anonymous No.8274504]

>>8274352
you mean moire?

[Anonymous No.8274591]

>498 posts
you guys sure like CRTs, huh

[Anonymous No.8274848]

>>8274591
500 now
Anyways, are retrovision cables worth the price?

[Anonymous No.8274867]

>>8274865

I made a new thread since this one hit the post limit

[Anonymous No.8275420]

>>8258887
Sorry I did not see your answer because there was no quote. Yes it is indeed a pvm 1910q. Will those cables work with a standard vga computer output?
See
>>8247475