/vr/ct - Perfect Parking Edition

[Anonymous No.8228451]

Previous: >>8181526

Awesome Downloads:
>OpenRCT2 - Currently the best way to play Rollercoaster Tycoon. We use the stable version for multiplayer unless otherwise noted:
https://openrct2.org/downloads

>RCT1 recreations - updated and meticulously crafted in 2013 by Crappage for near-perfect accuracy, right down to available rides and research order (contains "Real" parks and gaming magazine parks):
http://www.mediafire.com/download/3cw47sd2wt3hues/ExactRCT1Recreations.zip

>/v/ pack - updated to include the latest scenarios and tracks made by 4chan users and some other communities (We're updating this file as more stuff is created, currently has 120 scenarios and 161 tracks, includes sandboxes):
http://www.mediafire.com/download/6izs1w1tn7z1sk7/vpack.zip

>UCES - includes all objdata files already extracted from each scenario upon loading, and includes tracks:
http://www.mediafire.com/download/7wcrq3xl266d1bj/UCES.zip

>RCT2 Extras - includes the official remade RCT1 scenarios and Panda World created by Chris Sawyer/Atari, as well as different color waters and paths, the Windowed mode hack, RCT1 menu music, and some modified .exes if you need them:
http://www.mediafire.com/download/5bcw39lec5mkxd6/RCT2_EXTRAS.zip

>Amazing Earl stuff - adds some custom-made rides and scenery:
http://www.mediafire.com/download/f3jzct5v8kbzdfj/AmazingEarl.zip

>RCTConvert a tool made by Rvnx to convert RCT2's sound files into mp3
https://trigger-segfault.github.io/tools/rct2-tools/audio-extractor/
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Helpful Resources:
>Knowledge Base
http://www.rctstationarchive.com/knowledgebase/index.shtml

>RCT1 Manual
http://replacementdocs.com/download.php?view.1111
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YouTube:
>we made it bros
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ts4BD8AqD9g

[Anonymous No.8228639]

Wish I could make parks like OP's

[Anonymous No.8229408]

>>8228639
Just do it, nigga. There isn't any New Element autism involved there; just standard scenery.

[Anonymous No.8230089]

[Anonymous No.8230097]

>>8230089
thanks doc

[Anonymous No.8230126]

[Anonymous No.8230296]

>>8230089
I give up, where's the blue heretic today?

[Anonymous No.8230431]

>>8230126
>"Big Guy 4U looks too intense for me!"

[Anonymous No.8231586]

>>8230126
neat

[Anonymous No.8232850]

well this completely died

[Anonymous No.8233550]

>>8232850
RCT is no longer a cultural phenomenon

[Anonymous No.8233968]

>>8230089

[Anonymous No.8233987]

>>8233968
I would ride that

[Anonymous No.8235684]

The ride never ends

[Anonymous No.8236997]

>>8235684
let's get it reposted

[Anonymous No.8237000]

>>8236997

[Anonymous No.8238567]

>>8236997
>>8237000
Classic

[Anonymous No.8238628]

>>8233968
thanks doc

[Anonymous No.8239580]

Trying to play through Dinky Park in openrct2, bought the land on the other side of the road and it won't let me bridge over the road with either a footpath or chairlift.
>land not owned by park
>bought all land that's available
wat do?

[Anonymous No.8239587]

>>8239580
Did you buy the land in the middle as construction rights?

[Anonymous No.8239591]

>>8239587
Given the post was deleted, I think you might have realised your blunder already.

[Anonymous No.8239670]

>>8239587
>>8239591
yeah, still getting used to window scaling, didn't see the little one with selection size that popped up. Haven't played this game in almost 10 years and it's my first time using openrct2

[Anonymous No.8239827]

>>8228639
It's not that hard. You can probably do that in a few hours time.

[Anonymous No.8240059]

maybe this thread would liven up a bit with a nice collaborative server this weekend

[Anonymous No.8240094]

>>8240059
I'm down but I'm shit. the only coasters I use that aren't pre built are looping coasters,cant into nausea rating

[Anonymous No.8240384]

>>8240059
what map are we playing brothers
been a while since I hosted one, we have any requests?

[Anonymous No.8240835]

>Using my mini-park as OP pic

Oh wow thanks, I only

Any tips for finishing up parks/adding objectives once you've had a chance to fine tune a map? I've got a few I want to bundle up but haven't really done so before; I usually just build to completion then move on.

>>8240059
Wouldn't be opposed; I haven't tried it before but seems fun enough.

[Anonymous No.8240840]

>>8240835
I'm an idiot and didn't finish my sentence.

I only made the park as a warm-up after having not played for a few weeks so I'm glad I've still got it more or less.

[Anonymous No.8241268]

>>8240384
I vote for >>8174451
No I am definitely not biased

[Anonymous No.8241572]

>>8240840
This is offtopic but don't call yourself names for accidents. It's habit-forming even if you only do it a little and will have positive effect on you if you can hard-rule not to do it. We've all seen your designs, you are both clever and a strong visual designer.

[Anonymous No.8241578]

>>8241572
Good lord.

[Anonymous No.8241579]

>>8241572

[Anonymous No.8241647]

Long-time RCT fan here.
I am far from being good at this game, but here are a handful of tips I have collected for OpenRCT2:
- Every coaster has a couple of minimum requirements they need to meet to avoid excitement penalties (pic-related).
- As a rule of thumb, always price your roller coasters by multiplying excitement by 2 and adding half of your intensity.
All coasters have specific weights attached to the 3 main stats that add to its actual value, but most of them should comply to the above.
Example: Wooden Roller Coaster with 6 excitement and 8 intensity (and 5 nausea). This sometimes doesn't work, however.
(6 x 2) + (8 / 2) = 16 -> 16$
Using a price calculator, 6 8 5 for the Wooden Roller Coaster equals $17.40, close enough.
- Umbrellas can be priced at $20, because guests will pay any price to buy umbrellas when it's raining.
- In scenarios where you can only charge for the park entry and not the rides themselves, don't place any ATMs or toilets inside your park. This will cause guests to leave, thus increasing the chance of new guests to generate.
- When your queue lines are suddenly empty, your rides have aged. Lower their prices slightly until a couple of guests start queuing up again
- Both the Lift (transport ride) and the Observation Tower (gentle ride) share the highest scenery bonus weight in the entire game. Their excitement benefits tremendously from nearby scenery, so spam gardens until the bonus maxes out. The Ferris Wheel comes in second, but is far.
- Transport rides are useless 9 times out of 10
- Don't be afraid to max out your loan in scenarios. Most scenarios are nowhere near long enough for you to pay back all of your loans in interest, which means that loans = free money.
- Pathfinding sucks in these games. I rarely use double-paths and never use triple-paths. End your paths with the entrance of another coaster, buy signs and use their no-entry function to block your exit ways.
- Short coasters > Long coasters

[Anonymous No.8241730]

>>8241268
>deleted post
try again?

[Anonymous No.8241739]

>>8241647
all of this is nice to keep in mind, but remember that you are not a slave to a calculator, and you can build whatever you want. Making money in the most efficient way possible isn't necessary unless you're playing a challenge park.

[Anonymous No.8241749]

>>8241647
(cont.)
- Read this guide (pic-related) if you have trouble building good coasters. Learn about banking your turns and the significance of lateral Gs.
- Walls (scenery) do nothing.
- Sell all pre-existing scenery and roads you're not going to use anyway in scenarios.
- Swinging Inverter Ship, Go-Karts and Launched Freefall are the best thrill rides and can be priced at very high prices.
SIS can be priced at $10.20 right away, despite being an extremely cheap and simple ride.
Go-Karts at 4 excitement can be charged at ~$15 (I use 18 stations for max karts and just quickly loop it around, I set it to 1 lap for max throughput)
Launched Freefall at 60m & 119 km/h can be charged at $21.
- Golfing is absolutely useless.
- Due to bad pathfinding, non-tracked boat rides produce very bad throughput. Always create tracks for your boat rides, unless you don't care about efficiency.
- Put First-Aid rooms at the exits of your more nausea-inducing rides.
- If you really want to use transport rides, never use shuttle mode. Always use multiple stations & circuit mode.
- Guests will literally never refuse to ride your transport rides when you set them to be free.
This means that all guests, no matter how angry or how much of an intensity slut they are, will queue up for your transport rides, as long as they don't have to pay for it and the pathfinding gods are gracious.
- OpenRCT2 has a "Highlight path issues" View Mode that allows you to see all vomit, litter and acts of vandalism for you to adjust your staff and replace broken stuff.
- Under options, the Tree-looking tab, check "Show guest purchases as animation" to re-live your childhood.

There are a lot of other tips and tricks you can find on Youtube or the RCT2 forums.

>>8241739
I love playing scenarios and most of these are geared towards them.
You can cheese most scenarios with micro-coasters and many other exploits, but that's where I draw the line. Actually, I don't even charge $20 for umbrellas, either.

[Anonymous No.8241751]

>>8241647
>lordmarcel

[Anonymous No.8241782]

>>8241749
ok, neat
got any original content to post?

[Anonymous No.8241789]

What do I do with old rides?

[Anonymous No.8241797]

>>8241789
idk, make them cheap or advertise them more

[Anonymous No.8241810]

>>8241647
>- Transport rides are useless 9 times out of 10
Transport rides have a caveat where they will never be turned down when you charge 0 for them. Guests do not use them to get around intentionally but don't fixate on that like it kills the ride's purpose. You still ship chunks of guests to areas of your park that take a long time to see foot traffic. Someone at the front of your park is passing 20+ checks on rides, shops and other actions by the time they consider something to the rear, which you want to be just as well-ridden as your rides near the front, so you use transport rides to dump guests there.
>- Short coasters > Long coasters
Scam rides are a shit playstyle that make the game unfun, do not follow this advice except in shitty parks with paid entry, and if you find yourself doing it, reconsider why you're playing the game at all since you've decided to effectively not build rollercoasters in rollercoaster tycoon. You will still be rewarded for a longer coaster with higher stats for it, just make sure it has strong throughput.

Additionally, "harder guest generation" scenarios will shit on this, as tracked rides that are longer than 600 meters with 6+ intensity will increase your guests by twice their normal guest generation amount after 1000 guest cap is enforced in calculation. Short rides will not contribute to increases at all after 1000 in these scenarios.

[Anonymous No.8241827]

What would fix the balance on pay-to-enter parks? I think if guests would pay for food to be 5x more expensive, it would help.

[Anonymous No.8241848]

>>8241827
Nothing short of redone calculations on every ride. The mode's nonfunctional with the entire set of game mechanics of RCT, activate scenario cheats and switch it to something that works and encourages building good rides.

[Anonymous No.8241852]

>>8241810
>first post: transport rides are useless!
>second post: guests will always ride them if they're free!

I think what the first post means is that transport rides are not good at making money, and the person who wrote these lists is a fucking jew.

[Anonymous No.8241856]

>>8241810
>Scam rides are a shit playstyle that make the game unfun
Small RC =/= Micro RC
>You will still be rewarded for a longer coaster with higher stats for it
The point is to make the best of your loan early on.
>Additionally, "harder guest generation" scenarios will shit on this
There are only a handful of scenarios that use the harder guest generation option, and obviously, in those cases, I'd recommend building exciting coasters.
>with 6+ intensity
Not to be pedantic, but it's 6+ excitement, not intensity.

>>8241848
kek

[Anonymous No.8242538]

Scam rides were fun when people were making creative shuttle loops, but it stopped being fun when the scam screw was invented.

[Anonymous No.8242758]

>>8242538
Scam screws?

[Anonymous No.8242764]

>>8242758
Corkscrew coaster with a single half corkscrew piece after the station and a minimum speed powered launch. Train rolls a little up the corkscrew and back in. Two second ride that you can charge reasonably for.

[Anonymous No.8243276]

>>8241647
>>8241749
autism

[Anonymous No.8243335]

>>8241572
You're not wrong but I'm probably in a little too deep for that to be helpful advice.

>>8243276
What thread do you think you're in?

[Anonymous No.8243380]

>>8243335
>Coaster station exit doesn't have a tiny dip before the half turn, to speed up how long it takes the train to reach the lift hill

[Anonymous No.8243383]

>>8243380
that's it? That's the thing that bugs you about that roller coaster?

[Anonymous No.8243403]

>>8243383
I'm a practical person first not an aesthetics one, but sure build a proper stand for the coaster itself to sit on.

[Anonymous No.8243441]

>>8243403
>not nitpicking the block section or long station
choose your battles more wisely

[Anonymous No.8243446]

>>8241827
Learn to play. I always have shitloads of money even in those.

[Anonymous No.8243467]

>>8243441
No, I don't care about those.

[Anonymous No.8243470]

>>8243467

[Anonymous No.8243549]

>>8243446
You're full of shit. It is known that there is a need for cheese to get new guests to pay new park entrance fees. Shut the place down to empty it out and get a new batch like an actual day-pass park, build no bathrooms so guests will leave, artificially inflate the guest cap, etc.

[Anonymous No.8243561]

>>8243549
Basado, entrance fee parks are an antithesis to many of the functions native to rct.

[Anonymous No.8243564]

>>8243561
Yet most real-life parks function on paid entry with free rides. That's why they need a rebalance.

[Anonymous No.8243709]

Roman Village is a lot smaller than I remember.

[Anonymous No.8243712]

>>8243709
the aqueduct is K I N O

[Anonymous No.8243772]

>>8243712
it's a very nice map.

[Anonymous No.8243861]

Redbull me on RCT3.
Is it good?

[Anonymous No.8243885]

>>8241810
>>- Short coasters > Long coasters
>Scam rides are a shit playstyle that make the game unfun
I just opened up Katie's World (RCT1 scenario) and this is its pre-built Mini Suspended Coaster (around $2k).
Looks like even the game designer endorses small coasters.

[Anonymous No.8243891]

>>8243861
More coaster types, actual waterparks, free camera. Coaster cam. Guest bowling. It's chronologically the last good RCT.

[Anonymous No.8243897]

>>8243885
it's a good design too. short and sweet, follows the terrain, I always loved that one as a kid.

[Anonymous No.8243902]

>>8243885
comfy coaster

[Anonymous No.8243903]

>>8241810
>if you find yourself doing it, reconsider why you're playing the game at all since you've decided to effectively not build rollercoasters in rollercoaster tycoon
who the fuck cares you flaming autist, it's a video game

[Anonymous No.8243906]

>>8243903
the autists are calling the other autists out on their autism

[Anonymous No.8243907]

>>8243861
Doesn't one of the expansions add zoos? I wonder how ambitious that feature was.

[Anonymous No.8244106]

>>8243861
It's obsolete what with Frontier having gone on to make Planet Coaster and Planet Zoo, innit?

[Anonymous No.8244115]

>>8244106
It's not obsolete for us poorCHADS who can't run Planet Zoo without turning our CPUs into jet engines.

[Anonymous No.8244612]

New server is up since I feel like we haven't had one in forever and nobody else wants to host.

Connect to: vr-rct.ddns.net

Please don't complain about the map name, I didn't make it.

[Anonymous No.8246043]

Bump

[Anonymous No.8246312]

I finally went back and finished that Barony Bridge from a while back.

[Anonymous No.8246383]

>>8244106
Planet Coaster isn't exactly the same, it's more simulation than strategy.

[Anonymous No.8246590]

>>8244612
objective is building 10 (long) coasters by the way

[Anonymous No.8246620]

>>8246383
I'd say the management sim aspect is only part of the initial hook, what gets you into the rest of the game. Pretty much anyone who really gets into these games exhausts scenarios and just gets creative. At that point, a fully featured sim is what you want, though better than it still be couched in a game rather than opening up a soulless editor like NoLimits.

[Anonymous No.8246623]

>>8246383
>>8246620
speaking of which, how is Parkitect?

[Anonymous No.8246625]

>>8246590
bro it just died

[Anonymous No.8246631]

>>8246623
My understanding is its a clear improvement and resizing track pieces gives you a lot more freedom but it's still grid-based and that, I figure, is the biggest restriction. Inversions and other elements are stilled tied to cardinal directions.

[Anonymous No.8246637]

>>8246625
sorry I'm retarded, its back up

[Anonymous No.8246640]

>>8246620
fair enough. I've been meaning to give it a go, just haven't had the time lately.

[Anonymous No.8246647]

>>8244612
Nice, thanks. I'll play after work today and during the week.

[Anonymous No.8246648]

>>8246637
thanks server bro

[Anonymous No.8246669]

Got around to finishing off the invention queue/objectives for some of my parks so I thought I'd bundle them up if people want to give them a go.

https://files.catbox.moe/k03jjs.zip

>>8246623
It's fine - I like the deeper staff management elements - but also runs somewhat poorly on my platform so I just end up going back to RCT2. It's just more intuitive to me.

>>8244612
Haven't played one of these before but I'll jump in.

[Anonymous No.8246676]

Second objective coaster down. I think I'm starting to remember how to make good woodies again.

[Anonymous No.8246797]

this area is really comfy

[Anonymous No.8247048]

>>8246797
I need to have an actual go at playing the objective but may have to come back to it in a few hours. Had fun fucking around with an unusual coaster like the Virginia Reel though, I was pleasantly surprised by the stats.

[Anonymous No.8247148]

>>8247048
turned out good desu

[Anonymous No.8247291]

[Anonymous No.8247298]

>>8247291

[Anonymous No.8247320]

>>8241749
>- Golfing is absolutely useless.
fuck you I love building huge sprawling golf courses and mazes
it's almost like a transport ride but they have to walk lel
>- Sell all pre-existing scenery and roads you're not going to use anyway in scenarios.
Game got a new lease on life from me when I realized you could do this. Starting from scratch is just more fun.

[Anonymous No.8247337]

>>8243861
Oh man, I guess it's supposed to be a mediocre game but just seeing that screenshot makes me want to play it again. The fireworks/fountains sequencer is really fun, there's a (hidden) camera path editor which is similarly nice. The one bullshit feature is the passport machine which just feels like a massive cope to artificially spread guests throughout the park, but overall I had loads of fun with it, mostly in sandbox mode. Terrain editing is nice too, you can make waterfalls between any appropriately positioned bodies of water, and stuff like that.
>>8243907
There's two expansions, one adds zoos (Wild), the other adds pools (Soaked). I used to play with both, it's pretty funky to have a coaster with lions as scenery or something. The animal management features are pretty limited though. Soaked is great, you can (obviously) build waterslides like you'd build coasters.

[Anonymous No.8247361]

>>8243861
I played it very little but didn't like it. The graphics are not as pretty as the previous isometric editions, the feeling of RCT is lost there, in my opinion. The dynamics is different so most of what works in RCT1 and 2, is different in RCT3, whole new game. The only thing I really liked was that the guests are varied and come in groups.

I wish they went for another route and made more changes with the original framework, like the varied guests but with RCT graphics, new systems for how guests walk so that they can wander though wide patios more realistically, make some of them swim, some of them drown, the ability to save groups of scenario objects for reuse (like you do with rides, but without rides), create new tasks for the staff, perhaps even make them strike (lol), make graphics more realistic without losing the isometric soul, like puddles after a rain, lightning that can strike trees or even rides... Anyway, plenty of things to add without messing up with the core of the game.

I think about how Pokemon went from the very simple first gen to the current 3d gens adding up as they go, without breaking the gameplay.

[Anonymous No.8247376]

>>8247361
>the ability to save groups of scenario objects for reuse
It's been a long time but I'm pretty sure you can do this. Or maybe it stays locked within your current game?

[Anonymous No.8247425]

>>8247376
The only way that I know is to create a ride next to it and save the track design with the scenario, then you build the ride with them and delete the ride.

But there is plenty of things they could have worked on without messing too much with gameplay. There should be more varied paths like a narrow path that takes half a tile, wide paths that take two or three tiles, the ability to choose material, rail and color options separately. I'd like areas for picnics and eating tables where guests can sit together, an admnistrative building from which staff must come and go, guests falling down and injuring their knees having to go to the infirmary, guests coming in from cars that they have to park near the park.

[Anonymous No.8247831]

Welcome to Appaloosa!
A small, but fine farming field turned into an amusement park.

Friends and family, neighbours and foreigners, will be welcomed by our Meet'n'Greet coaster that is fit for newcomers and veterans to rollercoasters alike.
Past the information desk we have our old, wooden Water Wheel, but we've swapped the paddles with (mostly) safe seats for our visitors!

MINES AHEAD! That's right, our old Coal Mine? Turned into a rollercoaster.
The Drilling Shack adjacent to the Coal Mine houses our underground Twist ride aptly named "Drill Master".

East of our old Coal Mine, we have Wild Apple Acres. Our most ambitious coaster yet, ride through our apple orchard, and then through our record-holding giant, carved-up apple.

If you decide to go west, instead, you'll be met by Carrot Tops, meet our giant carrots from above and below!

Northwards, we find ourselves two lovely twins, Petal Iris and Petal Dahlia.
These beautiful petal rides travel through our flower gardens and are engineered to move in a synchronized dance.

Finally, we have the Forest of the Young, a little corner in our farm for our littlest of guests.
The rides here are free and perfect for busy parents who can't leave their children at home.
Our Hidden Treehouse features a fun and addicting spiral.
Our Mystery Forest is a maze so simple that not even a 6-yearr old would get lost in.
Our Car Ride, despite having an excitement value of roughly 0.30, is the most popular ride of the FotY yet, THAT ALONE should tell you how awesome it is.

Visit us now!

[Anonymous No.8247837]

>>8247831
[Park Map]

[Anonymous No.8248596]

>>8247361
>graphics more realistic without losing the isometric soul
So... Parkitect?

[Anonymous No.8249410]

>only 3 coasters with a length of over 4,300ft. in the server so far
Huh. I thought you guys would have filled that shit up to the brim by now.
I guess it's my turn to contribute.

[Anonymous No.8249790]

>>8243861
so should RCT3 be considered to be retro now? its only 2 years younger than RCT2

[Anonymous No.8249942]

>>8243335
Actually helpful tip since the block section means you care about throughput: instead of putting it at the very end of the station platforms, the entrance to a rollercoaster being in the middle of where the lead train would be (so around 2 tiles back from the front on this coaster) can distribute guests out onto the train the fastest. Little no-cost optimization.

[Anonymous No.8250031]

Chris Sawyer was an absolute savant to program one of the most complex video games back then in an almost completely unexplored genre in Assembly of all fucking languages.
Best of all, it worked, the game was a huge success and defined the childhood of so many people. And all it took was a brilliant programmer combined with an artist.

It's the most inspiring game dev story of all time, a man chasing his dreams to create whatever the fuck he wants no matter what.

[Anonymous No.8250140]

>>8250031
Assembly is a low level language but it is just a language. It's how games were made before x86 was standardized (so only one command set to compile into) and it's what Sawyer was experienced with. By modern standards it would be a chore but Sawyer was just doing his thing, man. He had an idea that resonated and let him retire comfortably.

[Anonymous No.8250147]

>>8250031
And he got the fuck out. He didn't get dragged along for the sequels. Made his game, made his money, and is presumably just living his life now.

[Anonymous No.8250179]

>>8250140
Unless you were writing GBC games, most game developers have already transitioned to C.

[Anonymous No.8250182]

>>8250179
That doesn't contradict what you replied to.

[Anonymous No.8250193]

>>8250182
It would have been a chore back in the late 1990s when C was already standardized for Windows products.

[Anonymous No.8250209]

>>8250193
Again, not contradictory. C is "modern."

[Anonymous No.8250286]

do you guys like hypercoasters? +1 towards the objective.

[Anonymous No.8250759]

>>8247376
>>8247425
Just checked, it's right there under scenery > custom objects (2nd icon from the bottom).

[Anonymous No.8251042]

>>8250031
I can't tell if this is some sort of joke or not

[Anonymous No.8251224]

>>8250031
autism

[Anonymous No.8251516]

[Anonymous No.8251525]

I THINK SCENARIOS WITH PRE-BUILT RIDES SUCK

[Anonymous No.8251570]

>>8251525
I kinda like intertwining my own tracks with the existing ones. There isn't always room, but I can often go under the hills in other tracks and over the dips to make a neat mesh

[Anonymous No.8251595]

>>8250286
its big

[Anonymous No.8251720]

>>8251525
I think some happen to be in shit parks (or pay to enter) OR complete the scenario for you. If it's none of those I like having them around, they're cute rides mostly.

[Anonymous No.8252547]

Not sure how many objective coasters we're at now but there's a Lay-Down design that hopefully fits the criteria. Always surprised at what kind of stats you can get out of it. I'll spruce up the area a bit and take a break.

The custom stores/rides downloaded from the server are also a neat surprise.

[Anonymous No.8252630]

>>8252547
>Not sure how many objective coasters we're at
with your coaster its 6, unless the game allows duplicate ride types then its 7

[Anonymous No.8253067]

>>8252630
make that 7-8.

[Anonymous No.8253121]

for some reason, guests leaving the park are getting stuck along this path. I'm trying to give them a straighter path to the exit, but it's awkward. There's a mountain in the way.

[Anonymous No.8253124]

>>8253121
would help if I remembered the image

[Anonymous No.8253135]

>>8253067
Not sure if my earlier Giga Coaster boosts those numbers further. Pushing the intensity a little again but it works out.

>>8253124
Wouldn’t mind something with a little less custom content if we do a map after this. I prefer playing more or less vanilla.

[Anonymous No.8253750]

>>8253124
looks like someone fixed it but now the guests are stuck elsewhere. the wonders of guest ai

[Anonymous No.8253760]

>>8253750
I think I fixed it. There was another park entrance that didn't have path connected to it and I think the guests were trying to go to that one. Its been deleted and guests are slowly making their way out (or just drowning)

[Anonymous No.8253871]

>>8251516
Thanks for taking the time to decorate the entrance. I saw it on Tuesday and wanted to take up the task, but running on 4 hours sleep I exerted all my energy on the shitty bobsled I want to redo.

[Anonymous No.8254629]

To the anon who made Castle Crashers...sorry to say it lived up to its name.

[Anonymous No.8254630]

>>8254629
F

[Anonymous No.8254639]

>>8254629
>Bobfucker Konstruction
kek

[Anonymous No.8254979]

>>8254629
B L O C K B R A K E S
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[Anonymous No.8255001]

>>8251525
Depends on how much room they leave for you to be creative.

[Anonymous No.8255024]

>>8228639
From scenario creation to done took like 2 or 3 hours. Of the 50-billion objects I have, I didn't have the time-twister cars and they're ugly anyway.

It's a grid, put stuff in the appropriate spot. Maybe I missed something idk. Point stands.

[Anonymous No.8255032]

>>8255024
The hedges north across from the drink and hotdog stand. I deleted them for some reason and forgot to put them back.
I'm a failure.

[Anonymous No.8255038]

>>8241572

[Anonymous No.8255051]

FYI I'm probably going to shut down the server tomorrow night, objective completed or not.

also how the fuck does resizing to be smaller/saving the giant screenshots as JPEG make the filesize 5 times bigger?

[Anonymous No.8255168]

>he doesn't use block brakes

[Anonymous No.8255187]

>>8255051
only needs a single more coaster. I built an inverted coaster but I'm too lazy to make it longer to satisfy the conditions needed

[Anonymous No.8255639]

>>8255187
>>8255051
I’ll try to get the last one up in a few hours so it can be done if nothing else.

[Anonymous No.8255674]

>>8253760
Thanks! I can't believe I didn't think to check for another entrance. That was 100% the cause.

[Anonymous No.8255725]

>>8255674
I opened my local copy of the save from when I left and it's right there, behind the FUCK YOU text. I would have been better off making a path over to there rather than spider-webbing the goddamn mountains with tunnels.

[Anonymous No.8255765]

And there's the tenth for the game. The Spiral Coaster doesn't look bad overall by the spiral chainlift and ridiculous Excitement boost that it gets by itself just makes it insanely cheap (which admittedly was my point here).

This was fun, I would host one but don't have a sufficiently stable connection.

[Anonymous No.8255782]

>>8255765
I was planning on doing a mine ride if no one built anything tonight. Spiral coasters are cool as hell, though.

[Anonymous No.8255821]

>>8255051
Be sure to upload the final save, as there's lots of land left for others who didn't play to build on and mess around.

[Anonymous No.8255835]

>>8255051
Thanks for hosting. That went well!

[Anonymous No.8255884]

Any tips for streaming RCT1? Random forums from 8 years ago say it's impossible to capture on OBS.

[Anonymous No.8255890]

>>8255884
I forget if it has a windowed mode natively, or if you have to download something to mod it in. I'd suggest starting there. I highly doubt it's impossible to stream it using OBS.

[Anonymous No.8255914]

>>8255890
Cheers; got it to work on Twitch Studio.

[Anonymous No.8257209]

I wish the scenarios were a bit more difficult.
I beat every single "expert park" on my first try.

[Anonymous No.8257218]

>>8257209
That is, every single expert park in RCT1 and RCT2 in OpenRCT2. Haven't touched the expansions, yet, but I have no interest to, either.

[Anonymous No.8257316]

>>8257209
the scenarios aren't super easy, you are just good at the game

but to be fair, rct1's expansions are all a bit more difficult than the base rct1 pack, and they get a little more creative with them.

[Anonymous No.8258029]

>>8255821
>Be sure to upload the final save
ok
https://files.catbox.moe/7ga68h.sv6

[Anonymous No.8258496]

>Try playing planet coaster
>Staff can quit.
>Building a roller coaster is a chore.
>Path building is clunky.
Its like they took RCT and made not fun.

[Anonymous No.8258540]

>>8258496
Anytime you have to micromanage staff more than RCT1&2 did, it's a chore. I always maxed out the training in RCT3 every time because why the fuck would I not? Let me pay these jiggaboos the maximum amount or whatever so I don't have to fuck around with replacing them. I don't give a shit.

[Anonymous No.8258547]

>>8258496
I like Planet Coaster, but there's a lot more micromanaging than in RCT 1&2. I think Parkitect is a little closer to them, but even that has a little more micromanagement.

[Anonymous No.8258550]

>>8258540
>Janitor 23 is lazy. Consider more training or disciplining.

[Anonymous No.8258646]

>>8258550
GET TO THE TRASH CAN AND EMPTY IT MOTHER FUCK JANITOR 23

[Anonymous No.8258770]

>>8258496
>Building a roller coaster is a chore
Explain. You're not a splinelet, are you?

[Anonymous No.8258881]

>>8258496
>>8258540
>>8258547

I feel like I'd enjoy a greater indulgence in the simulation elements .. maybe I should give PC a try. I mentioned this in a thread last week I think but I'd love to see the concept evolved with
>more staff types (shop/stall workers, stockers, garbage handlers, ride staff/ticket takers, engineers, QA staff that control access to guest $/happiness info, maybe marking/executives with stats, etc)
>separate build/operate phases and an open/close cycle for the park
>more realistic pricing (could tie into the above where you simulate a few days per season and get 50x the cash for each day to account for the intervening days (e.g. simulate 7 days a year per 210 day season)
>more robust research / tech tree to unlock options as you go, and policies to implement a la ordinances in sc3k/4/cities skylines (e.g. fast passes

I get a lot of enjoyment around the aesthetic/design half of the game but the simulation half is comparatively shallow by contemporary standards

[Anonymous No.8259014]

Scenarios that hand you a half dozen rides from the cretaceous period - do you just treat them as unprofitable scenery where there's a challenge to build around them, or sell them?

[Anonymous No.8259041]

>>8258496
RCT2 has some solid UI choices. The game plays fairly directly and understandably. So few times have I needed a tutorial/guide. The Planet series, specifically Zoo, is a real mess. Multiple currencies. Confusing design choices. Clunky paths. Annoying online utilization with random players joining your game (and you have to hi-five them.)

[Anonymous No.8259078]

>>8258881
I would try out RCT3 first to see if you like the general idea and then go to Planet Coaster. Planet Coaster is superior for sure, but an issue it has is that some rides you'd expect to be in the base game are DLC. It's not really a problem since they go on sale pretty often, but it's something to keep in mind.

[Anonymous No.8259104]

>>8257209
Plenty of hard scenarios in the vpack.
No one has beaten 5 corners yet.
lol

[Anonymous No.8259229]

>>8259014
The only time I won't build around the prebuilts is when they were clearly made to obstruct you or it's something like a chairlift to nowhere.

[Anonymous No.8259421]

>>8259229
Isn't being blocked in by rides part of the challenge presented, though? I don't think it's necessarily cheap, I guess it depends on the context.

[Anonymous No.8259479]

>>8259421
I honestly cannot tell if the game is testing that the player knows to sell and correct bad designs, or challenging them to build around them like you say. Could be either, because sometimes scenarios do set up bad things to make you assess what to keep, such as the Rio carnival that will sink you if you don't get a handle on expenses. The above scenario is also probably supposed to be confusing due to the doubled up ride types and frequent underground dips (plus underground stations) and trees everywhere. I colored the kart tracks in the screenshot just to distinguish them.

[Anonymous No.8259504]

>>8259479
I mean maybe it's just a personal bias against the sprite designs in WW/TT but I get the impression that the scenarios in those are somewhat less well-designed functionally than those in base/AA/LL given the focus on scenery/theming.

[Anonymous No.8259569]

>>8259104
Took me a long while.
My economy got going very early after building my first couple of coasters and a Gokart.
The rollercoasters were really difficult to deal with, obviously whoever made the map chose some of the hardest coasters to get a high excitement for.
Since money was no issue, it was more a matter of time, rather than difficulty to design all 5, although I've had to re-edit them all about 5 times due to how unfamiliar I was with each coaster's weaknesses.
There was no time limit, so the only challenge really was patience.

It was kind of enjoyable to learn about coasters I never use, I had to look up the source code to figure out stat penalties.
Most of the rides scored lower than 7.20 and I had to add scenery and water to push them over the edge. I gave the multi-dimension coaster a small junior coaster to synchronize with.

[Anonymous No.8259571]

>>8259569
Here is the park map.

[Anonymous No.8259607]

>>8249790
>Retro gaming means platforms launched in 2001 and earlier, and official game titles for those platforms released no later than December 2007
The personal computer is from before 2001 and the game is from before 2007 so I'd say it's fine.
Just finished the 1st scenario, it was fun. Note the water slide to bring guests to the other end of the park. Using pools feels a bit cheaty, they soak up a lot of guests.

[Anonymous No.8259759]

>>8259607
As a veteran of RCT3: using Soaked! content on base campaigns is cheating! Do not defile Vanilla Hills in such a way.

On the subject: does anybody know a way to get RCT3 running on a Macbook beside Wine or otherwise mounting a separate OS?

[Anonymous No.8259889]

>>8259759
I run it in linux using this guy's wine script
>https://www.gog.com/forum/rollercoaster_tycoon_series/rollercoaster_tycoon_3_for_linux
There is a native macos version released so you could just get that. e.g. the complete edition from steam says it works on mac.

[Anonymous No.8259920]

>>8259889
I hadn't even looked into that. Apparently I already own it and I'm promptly getting to downloading it.

This is an exciting time,

[Anonymous No.8259942]

for me, it's forest frontiers

[Anonymous No.8260096]

I just realize I've had Rollercoaster Tycoon 3 installed this whole time and I never bothered to start it up

[Anonymous No.8260163]

>tfw I deleted 99% of my RCT3 screenshots because I had a shitty 30GB HDD back in the day

[Anonymous No.8260381]

>>8260163
you HAVE autistically recreated vidya locations in RCT3, right, /vrct/?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UU9_EJL4EPw

[Anonymous No.8260814]

>>8259569
I thought the map was impossible to beat. Unless there's a workaround with OpenRCT2

[Anonymous No.8260830]

>>8260814
It was far from impossible, maybe a little bit tedious.
The scenario would have probably been even easier on RCT2 (albeit even more tedious, considering the lack of a speed-up option), due to how broken ride aging is and how it inflates the prices of flat rides.

[Anonymous No.8260904]

>>8260830
Nah, I mean impossible as in one of the 5 applicable coasters isn't even on the map.

[Anonymous No.8261145]

>>8260381
that reminds me of this masterpiece from 2005
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PhKuvL0zHQg

[Anonymous No.8261909]

>>8260163
oh hey I found an on-ride video of it. its a fucking piece of shit and looks painful

[Anonymous No.8261920]

>>8261909
I can only imagine that a lot of people playing RCT have never seen a flying coaster. Most screenshots I see depict something with a majority of ride time on your back. Really that position should only be in the station, in a loop (pretzel loop), or the lift hill.

[Anonymous No.8261932]

>>8261920
I sure as hell didn't know what an actual flying coaster was when I made that

[Anonymous No.8261952]

>>8261932
Even so it seems logical to consider why it can switch between inverted and normal and make a reasonable judgement. The problem there is that the games don't communicate it well. I do feel that that first person camera should have made it clear for you but I imagine you didn't see that until you had finished the ride.

[Anonymous No.8261970]

>>8261952
It doesn't help that flying coasters and lay-down coasters are basically the same thing, yet entirely different.

how's a little nigga supposed to figure this shit out before real life on-ride videos were available online?

[Anonymous No.8263240]

>>8261920
>m-muh realism
don't care, it's a video game

[Anonymous No.8263250]

>>8263240
Go away, retard.

[Anonymous No.8263913]

I've been playing Parkitect lately and it's absolutely beautiful. There are practically unlimited scenery options (I mean, you can create anything out of basic shapes) and the graphics hit the perfect spot between cartoonish and realistic.

That said, I keep coming back to ORCT2 for the little things.
>The little green cash number you get out of every ticket or food sale
>The sounds of a crowded area, the delightful screams of excited guests going down a rollercoaster, overall one of the best sound design jobs in vidya
>Everything in this game looks so small, the view makes your park look much grander than it actually is
>The countless amounts of car types, flat ride variations and scenery that have been released over the years
>The soulful 2.5D animations of your roller coasters and go-karts taking twists and turns
>Pure nostalgia for the game's aesthetics that haven't aged at all IMO
No matter how great the next spiritual successor is going to be, it seems that I'll never be able to completely leave RCT2.

[Anonymous No.8264846]

what is the best RCT3 scenario?

[Anonymous No.8265001]

>>8264846
sandbox

[Anonymous No.8265530]

>>8264846
RCT3 scenarios are pretty meh. I've been replaying some of them and I'm either able to finish them way too quick or lose interest on entrepreneur level

[Anonymous No.8265641]

>>8264846
None, people only play RCT3 for the sandbox.

[Anonymous No.8266224]

>>8261909
man I would vomit like ten times on this ride.

[Anonymous No.8267276]

>>8264846
besides vanilla hills and the one with the giant palace I cannot remember any of them

[Anonymous No.8267865]

>>8259571
>>8259569
Ah yeah shit I need to finish my 5 Corners. I only have the Water Coaster left.
Frick.

[Anonymous No.8269203]

Apparently this guy remade rct1 and 2 scenarios for rct3, no idea how accurate/playable/balanced they are though.

[Anonymous No.8269206]

>>8269203
forgot link
http://www.mikeworleymusic.com/rct3/rct2.html
>crazy castle
meh

[Anonymous No.8269226]

>>8243861
It improved on absolutely everything, and everyone hated it.

[Anonymous No.8269542]

>>8269206
RCT3bros...

[Anonymous No.8269559]

>>8269206
I always forget how bad RCT3 looks when you don't go through the effort of actually placing scenery unlike RCT1/2

[Anonymous No.8269564]

>>8269226
I genuinely feel like if RCT3's UI wasn't so horrendously ugly and if they ported over songs from RCT1 & 2, it would have been a just as popular as the other games.

[Anonymous No.8269602]

>>8269564
also if it wasn't 3d

[Anonymous No.8270451]

I can probably host another server Friday. Any suggestions/requests for a park/scenario?

[Anonymous No.8270474]

>>8269602
It had to be 3d to keep up with the rest of the industry.

[Anonymous No.8270487]

>>8270474
well yeah, just saying

[Anonymous No.8270542]

>>8269602
It being 3D was both the best and the worst thing to happen to it. It enabled the CoasterCam to actually be possible, which allowed for the RTC3 youtube community to absolutely flourish with some of the most creative concepts and designs in the entire franchise. But at the same time, it made actually designing scenery much more time consuming since you had to account for all camera angles and detail on a much more microscopic level.
And it doesn't help the default grass is this puke yellow color; game looks much better with the verdant green grass.

[Anonymous No.8270547]

I unironically have significantly more hours in RCT3 than in RCT1/2 combined, even after getting back into OpenRCT a couple of years ago

[Anonymous No.8271695]

I heard my roommate playing it the other day and I fell back down the well

I thought I escaped this game

[Anonymous No.8271760]

>>8269602
the only problem is that it was early 3D, so it aged poorly compared to the timeless sprites of 1 & 2

[Anonymous No.8271763]

>>8269564
god I fucking HATE rct3's UI. It's fucking dog shit. Smallest fucking buttons, everything in a different place than it was in RCT2, and just no charm whatsoever. I don't really have any problem with the game except the fucking UI

[Anonymous No.8271775]

>>8270542

Yeah, the 3D had it’s pros and cons but RCT2(d) lol) will always have that timeless AND nostalgic quality it’s simplicity brings whereas RCT3 can only really harbour an aged nostalgia which less people can appreciate I guess.

Also I think it not being able to run as well on low end hardware meant it never have the peak and popularity 2 had, you still can’t really build fuckhuge and schizophrenically OCDetailef parks on anything other than RCT2 either without dealing with frametimes in or around the seconds range.

RCT2 seems an endlessly intricate diorama whereas the 3D games will always be a block of marble which can only be chiselled to a finite degree before it can no longer support itself.

[Anonymous No.8273707]

Another fortnight has passed and I am once again angry.

[Anonymous No.8273732]

>>8273707
I didn't even notice.

[Anonymous No.8273748]

>>8260904
If I remember correctly, one of the coasters ended up broken so if you deleted any part of it it would invalidate the scenario. I'm sure that's wrong though.

[Anonymous No.8273760]

>>8273748
Sorry, meant to say "deleted part of the station".

[Anonymous No.8273772]

New thread: >>8273771

I fucked up the subject, goddamnit. Just search RCT instead.