/vroom/ - ЯR: Retro Racing General - Clinging On Edition

[Anonymous No.8219269]

Welcome to The Garage, a thread where fans of racing vidya can discuss their favourite arcade, sim, kart, and any other kinds of racing games. If you’re looking for something new to play or are new to the genre ask other Anons for recommendations and remember to gear up and have fun.

The previous thread suffered a blown head gasket: >>8170467

>Interested in a series to get started with?
https://pastebin.com/Vke5tf9e

Remember to bump, /vr/ has been faster as of late and threads get archived much quicker now. Don't be shy: ask questions, share experiences! If anyone has ideas for community events, speak up!

[Anonymous No.8219345]

My dad told me that I should play a driving simulation game yesterday, and I remembered that the Gran Turismo series was used to teach driving lessons at one point, so I decided to start playing hope. Hoping this goes well anons, I don’t play racing games very often but I’m always willing to open up to new stuff.

[Anonymous No.8219473]

Which arcade racer has the best AI (no rubberbanding)?

[Anonymous No.8219540]

>>8219345
They're good starting points. The driving tests should teach you everything you need, but if you want a bit more try to get your hands on the driving manual that came with GT2

[Anonymous No.8221803]

Don't you die on me.

[Anonymous No.8221809]

I wish Treasure made a racing game...or did they ?

[Anonymous No.8221937]

I've been playing a bit of Initial Arcade Stage 4 / Extreme Stage on Teknoparrot/RPCS3 (depends if I have the wheel plugged in or not).
It's not a Naomi 2 game, so I don't think it qualifies as retro, but I may post a webm if I manage to pull off something nice.

I'm trying to get Arcade Stage 2 and 3 working with the wheel, but for now I want to focus on the 4th

[Anonymous No.8222457]

It is a lazy sunday with the rain outside and the rain in my vidya. I didn't think one person could become this comfy.

[Anonymous No.8222616]

>>8222457
really like how classic nfs looks, shame even hp2010 didnt really get it despite still looking good to this day
>>8221809
I MEAN MISCHIEF MAKERS DID LET YOU USE A TRICYCLE

[Anonymous No.8222630]

>>8222616
>hp2010
HP2010 was effectively built as HP2.....2: underground physics edition. The game looks good but the pace of it and open world means its track design suffered for it.

[Anonymous No.8222645]

>>8222630
underground 1 has more in common with hp2 physics wise than hp2010 has with underground wtf are you talking about, but yeah, i mean they still tried to make it look interesting but it kinda misses the goofy(is this the right word? i hope you can understand what im trying to say despite my autism) and free feel of classic nfs which seems to be a trend with retro games that started as goofy/free/surreal like sonic or mortal kombat, starts as goofy and visually interesting and then becomes generic self-aware cartoon or generic dark and gritty look

[Anonymous No.8222670]

>>8222616
>I MEAN MISCHIEF MAKERS DID LET YOU USE A TRICYCLE
Calm down anon.

[Anonymous No.8222775]

>>8222630
That is still my favourite GT3RS and still a gorgeous game.

[Anonymous No.8222778]

>>8222630
>>8222775
It's a real shame that Criterion didn't get to make a Most Wanted 2. Ah, if EA let up for a year we could have The Run to come out as an actual game in 2012 and Most Wanted 2 in 2013. If only, if only...

[Anonymous No.8222792]

I tried out NASCAR Season 2003, it was really fun getting into a track but i have no idea how these settings work and i can't setup my keyboard for it

So im just gonna wait until i feel interested enough and try it again, on another note whats the current racing game with huge active community, something like forza or? cause i havent really checked on things like that

[Anonymous No.8222809]

>>8219269
Who's that guy behind Richard Burns? Is it Shadow Richard? Is it his long lost twin? Is it the manifestation of his ego?

[Anonymous No.8222896]

Are we going to be able to have an edition of /vroom/ that doesn't devolve into autistic flamewars for once?

>>8222809
I'm guessing it's meant to be Robert Reid, his co-driver.

[Anonymous No.8223387]

So what's the verdict on that hotwheels game?

[Anonymous No.8223475]

It's unfairly overshadowed.

[Anonymous No.8223491]

>>8223475
need to get round to playing this at long last, same with the first

[Anonymous No.8223497]

>>8223491
Burnout 1 is also good but it definitely shows they were still trying to figure things out. Worth a go, regardless.

[Anonymous No.8223504]

>>8223497
oh yeah, absolutely
have to really play them all to see where the series went

[Anonymous No.8223515]

>>8223475
How? It was massively successful.

[Anonymous No.8224672]

Play GBA rally games

[Anonymous No.8224674]

>>8224672

[Anonymous No.8224696]

>>8224674
Wait, this actually looks good! Cars are prerendered, I presume? How's the game compares to, say, Sega Rally on Saturn?

[Anonymous No.8224721]

>>8224696
The rival cars are prerendered, but the player car is a 3D model rendered live on the GBA. You can see that it's updated slower than the track - Top Gear Rally looks like it's going to be choppy on first look but the track movement is smooth, unlike other 3D racers on the system.

It actually gives me a similar feel to Sega Rally - not heavy simulationist but arcadelike with rally elements. It does have traction factors and tire options as well as pretty satisfying drifting, which is why I like it. If you aren't good at the game's drifting (handbrake just by hitting brake and gas simultaneously) it gets kinda hard later. The more simulationist rally game is V-Rally 3 and it has a more fully 3D track, but the physics and invisible track boundaries feel unfun to me, while TGR lets you slide on and off the road.

[Anonymous No.8224746]

Why is the PC version of High Stakes so weird? Weird camera angles, weird car models aspect ratio, weird handling. While PS1 handling has some sense of weight and simulcade elements, on PC you don't even have to use the brakes, just let off the gas at some turns and you're good.

[Anonymous No.8224784]

>>8219269
These threads are always full of post time schizos and the same boring games. Time to let you guys in on a real racer.

[Anonymous No.8224796]

>>8224746
The physics are wonky but I find leaving traction control on and massively stiffening the suspension makes it play a lot closer to the psx version. Might need to slow steering speed a notch as well.

[Anonymous No.8224825]

>>8224784
What game?

[Anonymous No.8224828]

>>8224825
Densha de Go

[Anonymous No.8224837]

>>8224746
>Weird camera angles
you can toggle wide/narrow angle, also you have a few extra cameras to set in the options, I always use the higher-placed ones in place of the default ones to get a better view up ahead
>weird car models aspect ratio
some look better (e.g. the Diablo), some look worse (e.g. the 911)
>weird handling
possibly to be made playable with just a keyboard

[Anonymous No.8224860]

>>8224828
I thought it was a train sim. Not exactly /vroom/ but what the hell. I think there were some interesting train arcade racers too, on PS1 and maybe on arcade boards?

[Anonymous No.8224862]

>>8224837
PS1 High Stakes is perfectly playable with digital controls. Now that you may switch on the texture correction and GTE overclock on the Beetle PSX, it's even more obvious that PC port was half assed. It's almost like those 80s arcade to PC ports where the developers didn't have an access to the source code and just simulated the game coding it from scratch.

[Anonymous No.8224864]

>>8224860
That was a joke. I'm sorry.

[Anonymous No.8224874]

>>8224864
We have gone too far. There is no turinig back now. You WILL tell me about X-Treme Express and the likes because i know nothing of them and they seem fun as hell.

[Anonymous No.8224946]

>>8224862
The PS1 version has has more new content (but lacks the HP tracks but given the physics that isn't a negative). I still flip flop over which version I prefer even factoring in emulation enhancements.

[Anonymous No.8224995]

>>8224862
don't think you can call NFS:HS (or NFS3 for that matter) a "port", they're more like pairs of games developed separately that reused some designs and assets

you could probably compile a bigger list of differences than similarities

[Anonymous No.8225158]

Frens I would be very thankful if someone could guide me on setting up Gran Turismo 2 to run at constant 60fps. I got the cheats working in the emu and all, but I still get slowdowns when multiple cars are on screen at the same time.

I can force the emulator into overclock but then everything gets too fast, physics get wonky as shit and audio gets sped up.

I just want to play GT2 and any help is appreciated.

[Anonymous No.8225221]

>>8225158
Is your cpu potato?

[Anonymous No.8225663]

>>8225158
Are you using the right version of the cheat code for your game?

[Anonymous No.8225789]

>>8224825
>>8224828
https://youtu.be/sBxFiNxdso4?t=11

[Anonymous No.8226164]

>>8225158
>I can force the emulator into overclock but then everything gets too fast, physics get wonky as shit and audio gets sped up.
How far are you overclocking? When I played GT2 in 60FPS via Duckstation, I used 200% and never had these issues, even when temporarily reverting to 30FPS to make a comparison.

[Anonymous No.8226783]

>>8219269
I wonder if will it became possible to install car mods to Gran turismo 2 one day.
I mean so far there's been people applying texture mods for the racing spec cars to make it seem more authentic, there's gotta be more room for a bigger step.

[Anonymous No.8226936]

>>8224672
>>8224674
>underpowered car loses ground to the top racers on straight track, gains ground on good drifts
Based, may the eurobeat guide you

[Anonymous No.8227309]

>>8226783
There's this mod that replaces the Renault Espace F1 with an actual F1 car, the McLaren MP4/4, which also appeared in GT3 as the F688/S (NTSC) and Polyphony002 (PAL).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VOi-zJAe-Bs

[Anonymous No.8227432]

>>8227309
Ah yeah! we're getting somewhere.

[Anonymous No.8227946]

~ /vr/'s official futuristic N64 racers tierlist ~

God Tier:
Wipeout 64

High Tier:
San Francisco Rush 2049

Mid Tier:
Extreme-G

Low Tier:
Star Wars Episode 1 Racer

Busted Ugly Shite Tier:
F-Zero X

[Anonymous No.8227950]

>>8227946
based and clpilled.

[Anonymous No.8227980]

Post your favorite custom racing music. I'll start.

20/20 Yellow Pills
(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2cf1bnGbfEk))

[Anonymous No.8228004]

>>8226936
I was actually listening to a long Eurobeat mix on loop while playing, because it's one of those engine sounds only games.

[Anonymous No.8228428]

>>8225663
Yeah.
>>8225221
No, it's a good rig.
>>8226164
>200%
When I push it to 140-150% it already gets really fast and wonky with music sped up to shit

I went over all the settings, I'm sure its some stupid little detail I'm overlooking. I really want to play GT2 the way god intended, its smooth as shit on youtube videos

[Anonymous No.8228590]

>>8228428
Are you playing the JP version perhaps? I'm having a bit of issues with the 60FPS code there too.

[Anonymous No.8228591]

Also does it work well in modes with no other racers on track? (licenses, for example)

[Anonymous No.8229280]

I forgot how much more atmospheric the PS1 version is compared to the PC.

[Anonymous No.8229624]

>>8224672
>>8224674
you a real one for posting these. downloaded the rom and was playing on my phone earlier.

[Anonymous No.8229634]

>>8222778
MW was shit though thanks to licensed cars with far too little damage, if anything they should've made Burnout Paradise 2.

[Anonymous No.8229695]

>>8229634
I want to make a video explaining why MW 2012 is in fact not shit.

[Anonymous No.8229968]

>>8224995
The only classic NFS game where the versions are significantly different is Porsche Unleashed, PC version is way better

[Anonymous No.8229981]

>>8229280
I played the game for the first time few months ago and it instantly became my top 5 game in the series, lots of cool cars and showcases, fantastic soundtrack, varied tracks, much more failr difficulty than previous games and finally a career mode, would be my favorite classic era NFS behind Porsche 2000

[Anonymous No.8230310]

>>8229624
I'm letting the autism take me and making this my game at this point. It has a very satisfying handling model once you get a grip (or slide) on it. People in a 3D GBA thread were thinking you had to let off the gas and slow down before sharper turns and you can get pretty far in the game doing that so people don't learn to drift, but really the game wants you to go fast and sideways.

[Anonymous No.8230319]

>>8230310
PS, this game's got great track variety but I will say Ocean Grove stages give me absolute cancer.
Look at this. There's a bump that jumps you DURING an 'extreme left' while car-stopping signs pass on both sides of the turn. Merciless.

[Anonymous No.8230343]

>>8230319
>There's a bump that jumps you DURING an 'extreme left' while car-stopping signs pass on both sides of the turn. Merciless.
good.
without stuff like this tracks in racing games get boring fast.
just brake earlier so you don't launch

[Anonymous No.8231321]

For me, it's Rage Racer
>that track detail
>that gritty atmosphere
>that music
>that drift mechanics that require you to carefully balance steering and counersteering to avoid spin out, unlike easy and safe auto drifts in RR Type 4
>that climbs and descents which reward manual transmission management
>that oval track which makes you sweat as opposed to be bored, unlike oval tracks in other games
>that DIABLE GP where it's only you and four devil cars under the infernal red sky

[Anonymous No.8231373]

>>8231321
I wish I understood drifting in this, I ran through the whole thing oval excluded with Age cars.

[Anonymous No.8231440]

>>8231373
Basically, you initiate a drift by letting the gas off, making a big negcon twist (or long d-pad tap in case you're using digital controller) and then hitting gas again. The steeper the turn is, the more you should twist / make a longer tap. After that, you should countersteer with small twists / taps to the opposite direction to keep the car straight and avoid spin outs. It's like a tight rope balancing. The straighter the car is, the more speed you retain. You don't want to drift sideways like in Initial D - you will lose speed that way.

It is entirely possible to hit that sweet long twist/tap spot during the drift initiation that you won't require countersteering, but requires timing practice and is different for different turns and cars configurations.

[Anonymous No.8231476]

>>8231440
Not other anon but I've never found drifting to actually be faster. Then again because of that I use the gnade until I can afford the abeille and use that for every non extreme oval race for the rest of the cups. It grips like glue and has more torque than the pegasus (useful for overpass and mythical coast reverse) so it runs rings around everything else.

[Anonymous No.8231518]

>>8231476
It is not faster indeed, but once you master drifting, it is as fast as grip turning with Age cars, while you're having other advantages over Age cars.

[Anonymous No.8231694]

>>8231518
>>8231476
>>8231440
>>8231373

watch an absolute pro rinse the game to see how to play, hes legendary at lots of other racing games and as usual uses a negcon mostly.

https://youtu.be/f3ZMB8U4y0s

[Anonymous No.8231809]

>>8231694
Never heard of him before.

[Anonymous No.8231817]

>>8229280
same goes for PU on ps1

[Anonymous No.8231874]

>>8231809
ok?

[Anonymous No.8231889]

>>8231817
PS1 PU is like a completely unrelated game with PU name slapped on it.

[Anonymous No.8231902]

>>8231694
Negcon is very recommended for the game, esp for grip turning and ovsl tracks.

[Anonymous No.8232279]

>>8231321
It has terrible camera modes and doesn't let you win the game by upgrading the Gnade but otherwise it's an alright game.
>Safe drifting
Every RR is like this.

[Anonymous No.8232449]

>>8231694
As impressive as that is it is mostly a demonstration of how well someone can abuse the instant acceleration bug.

[Anonymous No.8232463]

>>8232449
Yeah that 4-5-4 shifting bug on inclines saves way too much time. Might as well be cheating, like the flying off track shit in F-zero and the level boundary hopping in MK64.

[Anonymous No.8232473]

>>8231694
I saw his stuff already, his speedruns in particular are great.
imo Rage is one of those games where having the opponents on the track makes the game genuinely harder/more fun tho.

[Anonymous No.8232514]

>>8232279
>Implying you should use anything other than a bumper cam in a Ridge Racer game

Also
>Every RR is like this
Go try something other than Type 4. RR Revolution would surely kick your ass.

[Anonymous No.8232524]

>>8232514
Bumper cam is gay as fuck. Doesn't let you look at your cool car (might as well pick whatever), nor does it let you see where your wheels are going on turns, not to mention the tunnel vision.
Every RR game has on-rails drifting with different intensities. It's a staple of the series.

[Anonymous No.8232529]

>>8232524
> nor does it let you see where your wheels are going on turns
By the time you see your wheels you have turned too far using the external view. Ridge racer is meant to be played with the bumper cam.

[Anonymous No.8232540]

>>8232529
That's why Rage Racer's cameras are fucked and you're forced to use bumper cam. Every other RR game plays chase cam just fine.

[Anonymous No.8232595]

>>8232540
No - rage racer didn't change the cameras from RR and RRR and they were designed to use the bumper cam because of the arcade cabinet.

[Anonymous No.8232606]

>>8232524
>>8232540
Jeez, you're retarded. Prolly a Daytona USA fan or something.

[Anonymous No.8232618]

>>8232595
I can play RR1 fine on chase cam. That's why it exists as an option. Rage Racer made it more stiff when turning so you can't actually see the front wheels until you're turning way too hard.

[Anonymous No.8232627]

>>8232618
> That's why it exists as an option. Rage Racer made it more stiff when turning so you can't actually see the front wheels until you're turning way too hard.
Sounds like you need to git gud honestly.

[Anonymous No.8232639]

>>8232606
Nah, I like RR better. Stop being a gay nigger just because there's different opinions on the internet.
>>8232627
I'd complete the whole fucking game with the Gnade alone if it had the stats to compete past Class 4 Mistral GP.

[Anonymous No.8234172]

>>8232639
Git gud
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VLfSIsVVHq4

[Anonymous No.8234196]

>>8234172
>Basically bumps opponents to keep the lead
Even the fucking japs struggle

[Anonymous No.8234215]

>>8234196
Still possible with Gnade, so cope.

I am not even sure what kind of argument is this. Do Gran Turismo games allow you to complete all races with Trueno?

[Anonymous No.8234237]

>>8234215
Well I'm no slant-eye and neither are you.
>I am not even sure what kind of argument is this
It's a problem in a lot of racing games where all the coolest looking cars are usually way too underpowered halfway through the game.

[Anonymous No.8234440]

>>8234172
I am legitimately impressed as I didn't think it was physically possible to do that.

[Anonymous No.8234501]

>>8231373
If you want to pick up and play PS1 RR, RRR, and Rage, you need to forget everything you know about the concept of drifting in any videogame. You do not initiate a loss of grip, steer in, counter-steer, and all that shit. These games are essentially snapping to a rail grind in Tony Hawk except the balance meter is invisible. Right before a corner, try tapping direction+brake to snap to "the rail" and do not touch any directions other than aligning your car to straighten your exit.

[Anonymous No.8234643]

>>8234501
Why would anyone want original RR if they can get RRR instead?

[Anonymous No.8234682]

>>8234643
Maybe because they have different content?? Different tracks/layouts, some extra cars, new music, slightly different physics. You aren't 10 years old anymore, you can afford to play both games.

[Anonymous No.8234683]

>>8234643
>>8234682
By that I mean difference between RR going on to RRR, not other way around

[Anonymous No.8234826]

>>8234682
RRR has all RR tracks via a gameshark code. Cars are mostly the same. Music is remixes. Slightly different physics is the only real difference.

[Anonymous No.8234837]

Speaking of Ridge Racer, V could be my favorite, but lack of a rear view mirror ruins it for me. How am I supposed to block without it? Same problem with original RR.

[Anonymous No.8234972]

>>8234837
You aren't meant to have to block as the games are based around you continuously gaining position right until the chequered flag.

[Anonymous No.8234982]

>>8234972
It's fun to have this option if I fuck up and lose speed. In Rage Racer you can be boosted by other cars bumping into you.

[Anonymous No.8235914]

Why yes I did buy 500 bongs in audio gear to listen to the neeps and boops of 20+ year old racing games. The whine of engines in test drive II never sounded so much like cutting fresh iceberg lettuce before .

[Anonymous No.8236903]

>tfw can only go fast while listening to cringe zoomer music because of my sister always partying in the next room
neet life brings weird feels bros

[Anonymous No.8237951]

Is it me or are the hidden tracks in the PS1 version of need for speed III really boring to play? The art is interesting but no traffic, no music and loooong courses are not engaging for me

[Anonymous No.8238358]

Is there any way to get a NeGcon working in retroarch? I've tried all 3 of the cores, none of them work.

The turning works, but I can't get the I and II buttons working at all. I know they work, I can see them in my game controller setup, pushing them moves the analog stick up and down.

I could just use Mednafen or something, but I like the shaders in retroarch.

[Anonymous No.8238591]

This car is fucking impossible without Negcon at the extreme oval track. My d-pad tapping game is bad.

[Anonymous No.8238594]

>>8238591
Forgot the pic. Any tips?

[Anonymous No.8238710]

>>8238594
Its not hard with a D-pad - the only hard part is that fucking hump just before the last corner (or at the start of it in reverse) that you need a very good line on to have room to turn once you hit it. Tapping the dpad is only for straightening out - you should turn on the extreme oval with a solid button press. You just need to practice how long you need to hold for. Start wide and finish tight.

[Anonymous No.8239197]

Getting emails from your fans when you git gud is fucking cool, man.

[Anonymous No.8239261]

So I've been hacking Super Monaco GP on Gen\MD because I'm bored.

I have found, in RAM... Current Team address, transmission type address, car durability (and maximum) and pit repair rate addresses, a strange top speed-related address, what appears to be a set of car performance-related addresses, Engine RPM addresses, and a track ID address.

You cannot drive the red\white car from Arcade Mode in World Championship. However, it loads the pit values of team MaDonna, has the handling of a Class C car and has the top speed of a Class D car. Yes, the arcade mode tracks do function in Simulation Mode, and have pit lane functionality in World Championship mode.

The game simulates RPM pretty faithfully to the gauge shown in-game. Max RPM is 15k, but the game will accelerate you to the appropriate speed if you set the engine RPM to, say, 655350 RPM.

[Anonymous No.8239697]

>>8236903
headphones

[Anonymous No.8239706]

>>8227946
oh god it's this guy

[Anonymous No.8239854]

>>8239261
Based

[Anonymous No.8240030]

>>8239261
>Simulation Mode
What is this, me? Gran Turismo?

At any rate, all of the teams in World Championship have unique pit values to one another in car durability and pit crew repair rates.
Also a bit of incidental lore, too. This team has a repair rate of 1 in all fields, worse than even the lowest Class D team, Zeroforce. Their car also has relatively high durability stats. Their introduction quote talking about "Security money" means that this team is probably operating as a criminal front.

[Anonymous No.8240705]

>>8240030
that's hilarious
we need more things like that in vidya

[Anonymous No.8240819]

What do I need to emulate the model 3 arcade hardware. Always wanted to play scud racer.

[Anonymous No.8240891]

>>8240819
Supermodel worked well enough for Jurassic Park a few years back. I don't know if there's anything better these days.

[Anonymous No.8240928]

>>8240891
Thanks anon

[Anonymous No.8241082]

Hey anons... recommend me a racing/driving game with free roaming.
Will play on emulator (up to PS1, plus DreamCast and PSP) or Wii (GC, Wii). PC not powerful enought for PS2 and Xbox emulators.
Currently playing Test Drive Unlimited (PSP), but scenery feels too empty and car selection is not particularly appealing.
Maybe something from NFS series? But same titles seems to be completely different games depending on the platform; it's very confusing.

[Anonymous No.8241090]

>>8241082
I know it's not console but Midtown Madness?

[Anonymous No.8241363]

>>8240030

Andrea moda basically

[Anonymous No.8241436]

>>8241363
I think virtually every team in the game is a reference to a real-world team and their car from the F1 1991 (and maybe 1992) season.

Also, starting on Linden had me immediately challenged by Senn--I mean Ceara.

[Anonymous No.8241440]

>>8241436
You have been visited by the Gairton Ceara of Minarae.
Downforce and blue flags will come to you, but ONLY if you post

YOUR DAYS ARE GONE

in this thread.

[Anonymous No.8241447]

>>8219269
My wife

[Anonymous No.8241571]

>>8241082
TXR for Dreamcast.

[Anonymous No.8241580]

>>8241440
YOUR DAYS ARE GONE
>>8241436
Sounds more like a Minardi parody. The car looks vaguely mid '80-ish.

[Anonymous No.8241767]

>>8241440
YOUR DAYS ARE GONE!

>>8241580
Yeah, I think there's a lot of Sleve McDichaels happening here. Here's compilation of every team's car, normal driver, and what little information the game does provide.

Dunno who in their right mind would think "Misfire" was an appropriate name for a racing engine.

[Anonymous No.8241804]

>>8241767
>May
Fucking kek

[Anonymous No.8241818]

>>8241767
Imagine going to a track to bet on "LOSEL"

[Anonymous No.8241824]

>>8241767
>Rigel
>lorry engine
my sides

[Anonymous No.8241861]

>>8240030
Linden is believed to be based on Ligier, which at the time was effectively French national F1 team with support from their government, including their their state-owned cigarette company (SEITA/Gitanes) and lottery company (Loto).
Speaking of criminal front, you may want to look up the story of the John Pauls and Randy Lanier - 80s IMSA had lots of drug smuggling involved because of them.

[Anonymous No.8241865]

>>8240030
Linden is believed to be based on Ligier, which at the time was effectively the French national F1 team with support from their government, including their state-owned cigarette (SEITA/Gitanes) and lottery (Loto) companies.
Speaking of criminal front, you may want to look up the story of the John Pauls and Randy Lanier - 80s IMSA had lots of drug smuggling involved because of them.

[Anonymous No.8241908]

>>8241865
Insanely good looking cars. The color somewhat checks out.

[Anonymous No.8241915]

forgot pic

[Anonymous No.8244243]

DONG EXTENDO

[Anonymous No.8244267]

>>8219269
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndAtag3FMM4
GPLaps is doing POCONO today.

[Anonymous No.8244327]

>>8231694
>fatalita
thought I was the only one following this guy, he shreds at most racing games

[Anonymous No.8245390]

Can anyone let me know how big the dead zone is on a NeGcon? Mine allows me to move it until there's 12.5mm of distance between the halves (measuring between the seams) before it registers any input.

This feels way too big, especially when Ridge Racer gives me the option to set the dead zone to 0 or 3mm. I'm guessing it's because I'm using a cheap USB adapter? Are there any out there that have no deadzone?

[Anonymous No.8245805]

How do I turn on auto transmission in PC version of High Stakes?

[Anonymous No.8245847]

>>8245805
car setup screen (click on the car name, not just the drop-down menu arrow)

[Anonymous No.8245892]

So I took another spread of drivers from the sequel to Super Monaco GP, Ayrton Senna's Super Monaco GP II. Re-tuned, feels better to play, and of course has Senna voicing stuff.

Now with power graphs that make even less sense!

I haven't done as much research into this game, which is why the generic player driver is filling in for the Serga team.

[Anonymous No.8245912]

>>8245892
based g. ceara

[Anonymous No.8246391]

>>8245892
Kek, Firenze is Tim Richmond

[Anonymous No.8246578]

>>8246391
That might be a fun idea: Figure out who the driver pictures are based on.

I'm betting that some are altered photos of real drivers, some are Sega staff, maybe some are just crew members, probably an actor or two in there somewhere.
After all, this is a company that used a frame from Blue Thunder for the title screen of Thunder Blade.

Though as well, Losel's color scheme in Monaco GP 2 basically tells all as to why MaDonna (with Senna driving no less) is Yellow\Red instead of White\Red. White\Red would put it dangerously close in appearance to THIS car.

[Anonymous No.8247018]

>>8246578
I. Germi is clearly Capelli.
To be fair, most of the cars already use recolored marlboro liveries, don't they?

[Anonymous No.8247458]

You just completed the GT1 license tests. What shitbox do you choose?

[Anonymous No.8247461]

>>8247458
>start playing through 2 again
>the euroshitbox I want costs 1k more than the starting credits

[Anonymous No.8248153]

>>8247458
RX7 Best starting car in the game.

[Anonymous No.8248236]

>>8247018
All of them are based on the Marlboro car and then recolored, and Sega must've had trouble for it because a later revision of Super Monaco GP for arcade removed a lot of the real (and similar fake) logos.

Even though they removed the red off of this car and blanked out the logo in the back, you can still make out the Marlboro logo on the nose.

[Anonymous No.8248280]

>>8224784

Used to play this on my Dreamcast around 2009. A surprisingly fun game.

[Anonymous No.8248475]

>>8246578
Sega didn't have a FIA/FOCA license at the time either and ironically Losel's colors in SMGP2 is basically Marlboro Menthol colors. They never ran that, but they ran a yellow/white car in 1986 to promote Marlboro Lights.
>>8248236
>Although the initial release to distributors of the arcade version had been very popular, Super Monaco GP was the subject of a lawsuit by Philip Morris over its Marlboro brand of cigarettes being parodied in the game as "Malbobo". It had not been the only brand to be parodied, as brands such as Ford were parodied as "Fodo", Mobil 1 as "Modil 2", and Canon as "Conan". However, the in-game appearances of "Malbobo" had led to a complaint to the U.S. Federal Trade Commission by a professor from the Medical College of Georgia that Super Monaco GP was advertising cigarettes to children, the majority of players of arcade games.
>Philip Morris contacted Sega over the issue in November 1989, and Sega agreed to release a conversion kit removing the advertising in March 1990; the offending parody (as well as parody of Foster's called "Hoster's") were replaced with logos for Flicky, an older Sega arcade game. Sega argued the parodies were the attempts of game developers to create a realistic environment.
>With arcade units still featuring the parody after this release, Philip Morris sued Sega in February 1991. The tobacco company had also sued Namco over Marlboro imagery in its 1987 game Final Lap. The tobacco company wanted a total recall of the game as well as financial compensation and all advertising material destroyed, but settled with Sega in May 1992.
>As a condition of the settlement, Sega ran advertisements in arcade publications RePlay and Play Meter to offer to replace the chips in the game with new ones without advertising and pay each arcade operator $200 for returning the original chips.