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Scanlines - Yes or no?

>> No.8198150

What old TV even looked like that? I never recall having a TV with visible black lines.

>> No.8198157

Raw emulation all the way. Why the fuck are all those shaders so dark?

>> No.8198159

>>8198136
On a CRT? Yeah. On an emulator? No.

>> No.8198164

Fake scanlines are cringe.

>> No.8198189

>>8198136

not if they look like that.

>> No.8198212

Scanlines on an LCD yes this is the way games were meant to be played.

>> No.8198238

>>8198136
i like fake scanlines but those are kinda too thick

>> No.8198245

>>8198150
>>8198159
>>8198164
>>8198189
>>8198212
Correct.
What a stupid thread

>> No.8198852

>>8198150
arcade monitors

>> No.8199260

100% scanlines look good at 720p and I've gotten used to using them, but the one's in the OP are too thick. Looks like shit.

>> No.8199301

>>8198150
None of them.
OPs "filter" is so ancient and terrible that it can't be anything other than a troll post.

>> No.8199303
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>>8198136
yes, but yours looks fucking horrible

>> No.8199341
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8199341

Sure. Not as good as a decent CRT, but it's good enough for JRPGs and slow paced games without much need for motion clarity.

>> No.8199369

Only if done well. The OP one looks like it was from a really early emulator

>> No.8199402

Scanlines are a weird concept, horizontal lines across the picture, it was never a selling point back in the day, "look sir this TV has the thickest black lines of all the sets, your kids will love playing the latest Mario game like the developers intended".

>> No.8199417
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8199417

>>8198136

>> No.8199420

>>8199417
haha he looks like hes holding a penis

>> No.8199421

>>8199417
post the one with the edited link for indie developers

>> No.8199424

>>8198136
Dude I fucking love Neo Bomberman literally one of my fave games of all time. Shit is so fun coop

>> No.8200096
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>>8198136
Yes but not those scanlines

>> No.8200141

>>8199417
what you do, emulate ON A CRT
problem solved

>> No.8200207

>>8199341
Anybody knows what tsunade is saying here?

>> No.8200218

>>8200207
She says
>look at my neck. it almost looks like the graphic artist painted skin colored scanlines over it although that is not how CRTs worked.

>> No.8200259
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8200259

I personally find raw completely disgusting, especially for third and fourth gen games. But you do you

>> No.8200427

>>8198150
High TVL Trinitrons.

>> No.8200440

>>8198136
With Retroarch?
Sure, looks genuine.

With actual consoles through scalers or line-doublers?
NOPE, way too dark and inauthentic to even approach a CRT look.

>> No.8200443

>>8199303
what shader?

>> No.8200485

>>8200207
Sure, she's saying キャーッ! ナメクジの神さまにあえたなんて夢みたい!!サインもらっとけばよかったなあ!

It follows on from a scene in which the slug god calls her a bit of a fucking retard.

>> No.8201640

>>8200443
CRT dr guest venom 2 or some shit like that

>> No.8203904
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>>8198136
Maybe.

>> No.8203912

>>8198136
No.
I never saw them or noticed them back in the day.

The thick horizontal scan lines are really only found on PVM/BVM Trinitron monitors and nobody ever used those for gaming back then. It also looks terrible and makes games look like they're being viewed through window shutters.

>> No.8204019

>>8200207
my japanese is rusty but this should be pretty close. had to make some interpretations about context though
>KYAA! The God of Namek is eating! Someone sign* him to stop!
*TN: sign as in communicate using American Sign Language

>> No.8204478

>>8203912
nah, it's more obvious on bigger sets too

>> No.8204590

>>8203912
I saw them at the arcades, that's when it kickstarted my fad with scanlines for a few years, there was this 3D arcade racer with a huge CRT monitor and the scanlines were thick and it got me wondering what that was about since my home TVs didn't have them.

>> No.8204635

>>8204019
Is any meaning lost if you use "tell"? Much more natural.

>> No.8204653

>>8203904
the only reason i use retroarch is the integrated shaders
if other emulators had that i'd abandon it

>> No.8204674

>>8204019
This is so wrong it's incredible
>Kyaa! I can't believe (you?) met the Slug God! I would be happy with even a wave (lit:some sort of sign, not ASL) from him!

>> No.8204680

>>8204674
I assume it means signal

>> No.8204692

>>8204680
Yeah, but I don't know what happened before this. People don't usually say when imagining even being in the presence of someone they look up to that they want 'even a signal,' usually it's something like a wave or a smile, which is what 'サイン' usually means in this context.

>> No.8205557

>>8204692
true, yeah "sign of acknowledgement" could be translated as wave or smile so it doesn't sound awkward

>> No.8205641

>>8204692
Holy fuck, N4s are the worst. "Sign" as in autograph, you fucking retarded faggot.

It's even the first result in whatever dumb dictionary tool you should really be using here so you don't look as dumb as you are.

She's saying that she can't believe she actually got to meet the slug god, and that she should've got him to sign something for her.

The other guy was obviously just shitposting, but when you're this incompetent and you don't know it, it's just sad. Learn Japanese before you attempt to translate things.

>> No.8206114

>>8205641
How was there this much discussion about the meaning of サイン before someone who actually knew what they were talking about joined?
I want to believe everyone involved was just fucking with everyone else.

>> No.8206212
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>>8198136
no. accept your square fate. or own a CRT

>> No.8206521
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>>8199421
This one?

>> No.8206535

>>8199303
>>8199341
>>8200259
>>8206212
>>8206521
These look blurrier and uglier than OP's. CRTs are meme, they're only good for lightgun games.

>> No.8206564

>>8206535
Ok, zoomer.

>> No.8208719

>>8206212
Love the light bleed on the moon

>> No.8208876

what matters the most is screen size actually. retro games are better emulated on a small screen, like a psp, vita or hacked switch
you do need to have a crt, but only for lightgun games
fuck filters

>> No.8208951

On Retroarch I am using a filter for PS and N64 emulation that looks EXACTLY like my old 15" TV 25 years ago.
Get fucked zoomies.

>> No.8209004

>>8206521
that's that one

>> No.8209043

>>8198136
scanlines who do not account for beam width increasing toward higher brighntness are shitass mofo cunt crap diarrhea

>> No.8210120

>>8198136
"Scanlines" are a no. Black lines don't simulate anything except being deprived of oxygen. Anyone who knows anything about properly configured CRT shaders wouldn't call it "scanlines" so there's no overlap or loss in rejecting any and all "scanlines" proposals. If you want authenticity this isn't it. If you want image clarity this also isn't it. Just put it in the garbage.

>> No.8210182

OP knew the image looked like shit and posted it to purposefully make scanlines look bad.

>> No.8210198

>>8206535

Get the fuck out of here, underage faggot.

>> No.8210232

Using scanlines on a LCD panel to simulate a CRT look is like watching a movie on a fake cinema overlay... it just doesn't compare.

>> No.8210295

>>8198136
Scanline shaders just look bad, there's no reason to use them unless you're an idiot.

>> No.8210296

>>8198136
>sure, I want to see less of what I'm doing
>because...
go ahead, tell me why

>> No.8210330

>>8210296
People like to distract themselves from the fact they're adults spending time playing games made for literal 8 year olds instead of growing up

>> No.8210342

>>8204019
terribly wrong
>>8204674
painfully inacurate
>kyaa! Meeting the god of namekuji (sorry I don't know the game, I'm going by the jis here), it's like a dream!! It would have been good if you could get me his signature(authograph).

>> No.8211015

>>8206521
>>8199417
the funnier remake of this image makes PVMS look the best but the original they make it look like a meme.

Which is better CRTS or PVMS?

>> No.8211145

>>8211015
PVMs contain CRTs, dumbass.

>> No.8211912

>>8210342
>translators note: kyaa is an excited girl scream
>translators note: namekuji (sorry I don't know the game, I'm going by the jis here)
>translators not : Signature means autograph

>> No.8211923

>>8198136 overdone it on purpose
>>8200096 done it correctley

big question, why would OP do a bad example on purpose?

>> No.8211993

>>8211912
I saw that coming. It's not like I'm officially translating for the game nor releasing a fan sub. Otherwise I'd make some effort to actually research the material.

>> No.8212030
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>>8198136
Yes but more decent and tasteful.

>> No.8212079

>>8198136
Real crt has vertical scanlines

>> No.8212116
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>>8212079
The electron gun does not scan vertically, it scans lines horizontally from top to bottom

>> No.8212837

>>8203904
Does Retroarch come with the 1st and 3rd effects?

>> No.8213072 [DELETED] 

>>8206212
this is a real CRT, isn't it?

>> No.8213078

>>8212030
Is this a real CRT?

>> No.8213112

>>8206212
Game?

>> No.8213130

>>8213112
Chrono Trigger

>> No.8213661

>>8213078
No, crt-mattias shader in retroarch.