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Should I play the GameCube version or the remaster ?

>> No.8196613

soulless vs soul

>> No.8196619

>>8196602
Left is sharper details but less artistic lighting. The lighter is also sharper, like the details, but lacks the ambient mix the original had with different gradients and area lighting. As for the game, I played the remaster and enjoyed it, not sure about the details, as far as I know Remaster and 4 are 2 of the only games they didn't fuck up very much.

>> No.8196631
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>>8196602
You should play the original version

>> No.8196636
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>>8196631
You mean pic related?

>> No.8196835

The remaster has that smeared look on all the backgrounds, other than that its the same game.

>> No.8196854

>>8196602
>Should i play the remaster?
Kys

>> No.8196890

>>8196636
Damn, I've said it in threads before but I need to quit procrastinating and just set up Joy2Key for this. Growing up playing RE1 and RE2 on consoles then going to the GoG trilogy for AitD feels unnatural, and I say that as a tank control purist.

>> No.8196891

I love both versions but I will say everything being in HD but having the same old FMV format for some cutscenes is kinda jarring.

>> No.8197470

>>8196890
Wasn't there a PS1 version?

>> No.8197480

>>8196854
>NOOOOOOOO OLD GOOD NEW BAD

>> No.8197504

>>8197470
Of the second one yeah, but not the first

>> No.8197587

Where is that screenshot comparison pointing out how bad the remaster is?

>> No.8197629

>>8197480
you zooms never proof the contrary

>> No.8197657

>>8197629
Hitchen's razor, boomboi

>> No.8197754

>>8196613
fpbp

>> No.8197935

>>8196602
Remaster

>>8196613
Does soulless mean "I calibrated my capture wrong so therefore it is bad"? What does it even mean, toddler? Please use your words.

>>8197754
Don't reply to yourself, we can see when you do it.

>> No.8197940

>>8196602
They are both fine. If you like the HD then play it. Don't bother listening to autists.

>> No.8197941
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>>8196631

>> No.8198059

Psx orignal first, then gamecube. Both on a crt

>> No.8198070

>>8196602
only if you are playing on a CRT

>> No.8198071

>>8198059
Also wear jorts and get a landline installed

>> No.8198085

>>8196636
what are you supposed to do in this situation?

>> No.8198090

>>8198071
That would be the ideal situation, I got plenty of jorts but landlines are tough

>> No.8198092

>>8198059
KYS

>> No.8198173

>>8198092
That's not nice

>> No.8198514

Not sure about the remaster, but I played the remake on dolphin and the texture upscaling made some hidden items way too obvious.

>> No.8198521

>>8196890
I played the first one, is ok, i played worst games before. Graphics were charming but animations were meh. Havent played 2 or 3 but i heard they are more action oriented which sucks.

>> No.8198527

>>8196890
>Jot2Key
Just use antimicro

>> No.8198746

>>8196602
The only thing that matters is if you play the remaster dont use the new control,they ruined the game.

>> No.8198787

>>8197941
GENESIS DOES

>> No.8198853

>>8196631
>>8196854
>>8197629
>>8198059
If you legitimately didn't like the GameCube version you've been a faggot for a really long time. I remember when that shit came out and it was better then, and it's better now. If someone hasn't played RE1 I would literally never recommend the OG version.

>> No.8198896

>>8198853
I think the remake is very good, it's diffrent enough that it doesn't replace the ps1 original though

>> No.8198919

>>8198896
Fair point.

My assumption though is OP hasn't played either. The minor differences you and I would notice wouldn't really make or break a first time experience the way poor camera angles and outdated graphics would.

>> No.8198956

>>8198919
Poor camera angles? They both have fixed cameras and comparable views. If you haven't played both you should play the psx version first. You won't know what was added unless you do. Plus the orignal has a surreal, dream like vibe thats really its own thing compared to the remake and even the rest of the series. Plus even blind you can get through psx version in like 4 hours tops

>> No.8198969

>>8198956
Meh

>> No.8199218

>>8197941
that's cool

>> No.8199229
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>>8196602
Remaster is pure shit

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>>8199232
What's that? Colours?! We better put more brown&grey because this is completely unaccepetable to have for zoomers in their horror games!

>> No.8199254

keep spinning>>8198085

>> No.8199278

>>8197941
lyl

>> No.8199345

>>8196602
Original then remaster, you cant appreciate how good the remaster is without first playing the original, if you do it the other way around you wont appreciate the remaster as much and the other version will just be "the shittier version"

>> No.8199391

>>8199229
It looks way better on my tv with good settings,just played through that part 10 minutes ago.

>> No.8199437
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8199437

play Iwao's game or else

>> No.8199490

>>8199229
>>8199232
>>8199236
I can't even tell which game is which in these autism gifs.

>> No.8199505

>>8198956
>Blind
>4 hours
No way unless they played similar games before.

>> No.8199510

>>8199229
Hard to see cage is remaster?
>>8199232
Facing us is remaster?
>>8199236
Standing directly under the light is the remaster?

>> No.8199518

>>8198527
>Jot2Key
Just highlight what you want to quote, and then click their post number

>> No.8199546

All versions of RE1 are shit.

>> No.8199690

>>8197941
Peak soul

>> No.8199705

>>8199229
the mirror on the left wall

>> No.8199854
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>>8196631
The remake is a different experience from the original, both are worth playing

>> No.8199872

>>8199690
Thanks for acknowledging "soul" means "looking as shitty as possible"

>> No.8199881

>>8198853
>>8198896
I loved, and still love, the original, but the Gamecube remake was absolutely mindblowing when it came out. Seeing a beloved game remastered with such a pleasing, realistic look was amazing. I still wish the original Silent Hill had such a remake.

>> No.8200121

>>8199437
>Rainbow Six
huh, who knew

>> No.8200145

>>8198059
Why are autistist like this?
Dont listen to retarded people. If you want the best experience then play the Hacked PS1 version (puts back all the cut content, censored scenes, adds additional stuff from the various other editions of re1) then play the HD Remaster on your pc.

Fuck this crt bullshit

>> No.8200160

>>8199872
It's all well done besides the body shape and faces. The angle, perspective, camera movement, scenery, etc... are all good.

>> No.8200162
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I think the GameCube and Remaster both have their place. If you have a GameCube and a CRT readily available, use that. If you have a PS4 or PC (or anything else for that matter), play that way. Just know there are imperfections in the remaster, while improving some other things. I own both. I would also say if you have an open mind, give the original version a shot too.

>> No.8200165

>>8200145
Why are you insulting him? Obviously he's not 100 percent serious, and yes it looks better on a CRT.

>> No.8200193

>>8200162
>Just know there are imperfections in the remaster, while improving some other things

quick run down?

>> No.8200224

>>8200193
Look at the image I attached. A lot of the textures and other thing seemed to have been lost over the years. Capcom had to remove many of the stuff seen in the picture. It's a shame. Some textures looked compressed and shows are missing

>> No.8200237

>>8199854
That hairstyle turns me on so much.
Post more girls with that hair.

>> No.8200241
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>>8200237

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>>8200241

>> No.8200246

>>8196613
It's literally the same but readable

>> No.8200251

>>8200193
It’s literally written down on the image

>> No.8200328

>>8199881
Glad to see someone else isn't unnecessarily clinging on to the PS1 release because it's "got soul". I would bet both of my balls and one of my nipples that the developers would have loved to have been able to release the game with the GameCube graphics on the first shot if that had been an option in 96.

>> No.8200417

>>8196631
GBC version?

>> No.8200447
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>>8199236
Even the GC release looks quite a bit duller than what they showed in early previews.

>> No.8200456

>>8200417
The PC version (it's fixed now)

>> No.8200505

>>8200165
I am 100 percent serious

>> No.8200516

>>8200145
>fuck this crt bullshit

Take your normies ass back to v, fucking scumbag

>> No.8200565

>>8200516
Not him but OLEDs have surpassed CRTs in practically every area

>> No.8200604

>>8197941
WOJAK, NO

>> No.8200769

>>8200328
The only thing better about the remake are the graphics,the pacing is shit lisa trevor belongs in silent hill as well as the rusty lab.

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>>8200165
CRT for life!

>> No.8200839

>>8200565
Except depht , this still can't be replicated

>> No.8200895

>>8200565
>OLED
retardedly expensive, input lag and response time are still inferior to crts, non square pixels are still an issue, you need a scaler if you're using real hardware and shaders if you're emulating, and burn in is worse than late 90s/00s crts
OLED has potential and its definitely a viable alternative, but I would rather just give $10 to a schmuck on craigslist selling his grandma's old tv

>> No.8200914

>>8200565
I love oled, have. 77 inch cx myself that I sometimes use with a retrotink5x. Still think crt looks better for 480i/240p games

>> No.8201045

>>8200831
based

>> No.8201056

>>8200839
what do you mean?

>>8200895
>input lag and response time
overstated to the point of audiophile tire, never had any problems with timing on my OLED tv, completed all Parappa games and never had timing problems with Punch Out either
>and burn in is worse than late 90s/00s crts
debatable, I don't who how long either go before burn in.
>you need a scaler if you're using real hardware and shaders if you're emulating
Why? I can get scanlines (although they shouldn't be as visible as people make them out to be, screen gets to dark that way too) but shaders aren't needed

>>8200914
games that actually use 480i (so 6th gen consoles) benefit more from a bigger screen and were made for EDTVs and thus are more alike tv types that came after it

>> No.8201061

>>8198070
ding ding ding
If you somehow have a Gamecube and no CRT, then play the HD remaster. The Gamecube version has a little bit more atmosphere in certain places (see >>8199229), but the HD remaster comes very close (see >>8199232), and I'd argue it's better in some areas--the outdoor areas in particular are much better in the remaster. The GC's de-emphasis on fidelity leaves those areas feeling underdeveloped.

>>8199510
Hard to see cage is remaster. This room occurs very early in a playthrough, and the lighting here in GC release makes a strong impression that the remaster simply does not replicate. However, this is probably the only room in the entire game that the HD remaster fails to do justice to, and players are unlikely to spend much time here or revisit it often, so it doesn't make much difference in the long run.

>> No.8201064

>>8201056
>Why?
Dont tell me you just plug your retro console directly on your hd tv ?
Also >muh bigger screen
Literally just sit closer to the tv and its the same thing.
Also ps2 looks better through component on my 15" crt tv than they surely do on your hdtv even if you use a retrotink or ossc,cope harder.

>> No.8201080

>>8201056
480i games were NOT made for EDTV you dumb goy. Also, stop playing on tiny CRTs. I play on a 36 inch sony via component and it looks great

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>>8200224
As far as I know they lost basically everything and a lot of the backgrounds are just put through some half assed upscaling algorithm. I remember the Aqua Ring standing out because it looks like absolute puke. Compare that to the HD release of 0 where they still had the raw files and were able to properly re-render the backgrounds at a much higher resolution from scratch.

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I just use ReShade to fix the atmosphere in REmake HD.
GCN REmake is still the best version though.

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>>8201326
It looks pretty bland without it...

>> No.8201782

>>8201056
>never had any problems with timing
that's because latency and response time are already good enough, but they still can't fully match those found on crts
>debatable, I don't who how long either go before burn in
its not debatable, with the average 4chan wizard usage (6-8 hours a day) you'll probably have noticeable burn in a few months
that being said, if you use it a secondary screen only for games/movies a few hours every day, then you'll probably be fine
>Why?
>shaders aren't needed
real hardware without a scaler looks like FUCKING GARBAGE on modern screens, specially on 4k screens (aka virtually all oleds) but you're right, you don't NEED shaders or a scaler, its personal preference, but you won't get the "intended" look and that matters to a lot of people here
>games that actually use 480i (so 6th gen consoles) were made for EDTVs
just lol
like I said, oleds aren't a bad alternative, but for me it isn't worth it to spend over a grand on one while I can just go buy a huge consumer set or even a pvmeme for like a 20th of that

>> No.8201859

>>8196602
Personally, I play RE1 on Dolphin with doorskip/fast disk speed. For RE0, you want to stick to Remaster because the GC version has terrible performance and menus are slow as hell.

>> No.8202157

>>8201859
Or maybe just don play 0,you will miss some good but also a lot of bad and nothing great.

>> No.8202441

>>8200895
stop being poor and move out

>> No.8202451

>>8201064
>Dont tell me you just plug your retro console directly on your hd tv ?
yes

>>8201080
>480i games were NOT made for EDTV you dumb goy. Also, stop playing on tiny CRTs. I play on a 36 inch sony via component and it looks great
but 6th gen was in whole the turning point of people going over to LCD screens

>>8201782
>but they still can't fully match those found on crts
What does it matter if doesn't make a impact on the gameplay?

>its not debatable, with the average 4chan wizard usage (6-8 hours a day) you'll probably have noticeable burn in a few months
that being said, if you use it a secondary screen only for games/movies a few hours every day, then you'll probably be fine
I have one for a year now and havent got any burn in.

>just lol
see 2nd paragraph^

>> No.8202468

>>8202451
What the fuck are you smoking,a lot of people were still using crt well into 7th gen.Hell all 7th gen console didnt even ship with hdmi cable.

>> No.8202475

>>8202451
Nigga, no one had a flat screen when gamecube came out

>> No.8202552

>>8202475
>>8202468
true, but they just because a lot of people dont use something the moment it comes out doesnt mean developers and manufactors atleast give people the option to use something, a lot of 6th gen games can display 480p despite not everyone having a tv that allows it.

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>>8196636
The actual joke hides within the filename.

>> No.8202592

>>8202552
Dude even in 06 flat screens were not the norm. Wasn't till way into the 360 life were flat screens normal

>> No.8202707

>>8202592
Maybe with you but we got a HDTV in 2006, me and my father got one in 2009, but I was talking about simple cheap LCD screens, around the mid 2000s there were a lot of these and all of them had a component port and had 480p compability

>> No.8202831

>>8202707
And what looked better, them early HDTVs or a 480i crt?

>> No.8203017

I don't see a difference

>> No.8203126 [DELETED] 

but 6th gen was in whole the turning point of people going over to LCD screens
>>8202451
>Dont tell me you just plug your retro console directly on your hd tv ?
>yes
you're actually either blind or just baiting
>but 6th gen was in whole the turning point of people going over to LCD screens
correlation does not imply causation
>games that actually use 480i (so 6th gen consoles) were made for EDTVs
no they weren't, interlacing was literally only meant to be used on crts, 480i had been the standard since before video game consoles existed, it just wasn't feasible for video game consoles output at that resolution early on
if you meant 480p, then yeah, that was actually meant actually meant to be displayed on EDTVs (or vga monitors in the case of the dreamcast)
neither 480i or 480p were meant to be used on hdtvs or 4k oleds
I'll give you this, widescreen, 720p and 1080i output were actually really forward thinking, but only a small set of games supported them (not to mention the dreamcast and gamecube couldn't even natively output above 480p), but even then, those modes were likely meant for hd crts, not lcds
let's say you still use mental gymnastics to come to the conclusion that interlacing and low resolutions were meant for lcds, they still look undeniably better on crts
>What does it matter if doesn't make a impact on the gameplay?
"oled is better in every way than crts"
"no its not"
"uhh why does it matter??"
why would I spend $1,496.99 on an oled if it doesn't matter?

>> No.8203129

>>8202451
>Dont tell me you just plug your retro console directly on your hd tv ?
>yes
you're actually either blind or just baiting
>but 6th gen was in whole the turning point of people going over to LCD screens
correlation does not imply causation
>games that actually use 480i (so 6th gen consoles) were made for EDTVs
no they weren't, interlacing was literally only meant to be used on crts, 480i had been the standard since before video game consoles existed, it just wasn't feasible to output at that resolution early on
if you meant 480p, then yeah, that was actually meant to be displayed on EDTVs (or vga monitors in the case of the dreamcast)
neither 480i or 480p were meant to be used on hdtvs or 4k oleds from the future
widescreen, 720p and 1080i output were actually really forward thinking, but only a small set of games supported them (not to mention the dreamcast and gamecube couldn't natively output above 480p), and even then, those modes were likely meant for hd crts, not lcds
even if you use mental gymnastics to come to the conclusion that interlacing and low resolutions were meant for lcds, they still look undeniably better on crts
>What does it matter if doesn't make a impact on the gameplay?
"oled is better in every way than crts"
"no its not"
"uhh why does it matter??"

>> No.8203132

>>8199872
Cope zoomer

>> No.8203139

>>8196613
That doesn't makes sense.

>> No.8203142

wow, great. normal maps. *yawn*

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>>8203129
>you're actually either blind or just baiting
>

>neither 480i or 480p were meant to be used on hdtvs or 4k oleds from the future
Maybe but they look better on it

>What does it matter if doesn't make a impact on the gameplay?
"oled is better in every way than crts"
"no its not"
"uhh why does it matter??"
ok
I said practically every way, can't you read? Besides (possible) burn in, input lag is the only other weakness of OLEDs but like I said, it hardly matters unless your autistic to the degree of of audiophile tier nonsense

>> No.8203287

>>8203251
He's right and CRT's look better for games up to the end of the PS2 and GC era. Just stop dragging out the argument.

>> No.8203432

>>8203251
>pic
lmao, so you're actually blind I guess
>Maybe but they look better on it
refer back to this statement >>>even if you use mental gymnastics to come to the conclusion that interlacing and low resolutions were meant for lcds, they still look undeniably better on crts
>it hardly matters unless your autistic to the degree of of audiophile tier nonsense
if it hardly matters why would I spend $1,496.99 on an oled??

>> No.8203561

>>8203432
What? One little adapter cable makes it indirect? Atleast I don't have to use a scaler, oscc or whatever you people use

>if it hardly matters why would I spend $1,496.99 on an oled??
Because everything else is better?? Color is better, blacks are better, unlike CRTs allow for higher resolutions than 480i (useful for anything that can give a higher res than that) also having a bigger screen DOES help, you'll have a better overview of whats going on in the game. Yes, OLEDs are kind of overpriced (for whatever reason) but it's worth it.

>>8203129
>refer back to this statement >>>even if you use mental gymnastics to come to the conclusion that interlacing and low resolutions were meant for lcds, they still look undeniably better on crts
I never said interlacing was meant for LCDs asshole, I said 6th gen consoles were, 5th gen and before use 240p THOSE look undeniably better on CRTs yes, but anything 3D in 480i (again, 6th gen consoles and latter) look better on other display tech

>>8203287
>He's right and CRT's look better for games up to the end of the PS2 and GC era
Why? What makes you both think that?

>> No.8203873

>>8201326
>>8201330
the second pic looks better though.
Top looks like someone took a fat green shart all over the walls.

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>>8196602
>Should I play the GameCube version or the remaster ?
no
Some of the expanded content in REmake is nice but it's basically the twin snakes of Resident Evil games

>> No.8204645

>>8200162
>Curve
What is that curve anyways?

>> No.8205598

>>8204645
histogram