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>Treasure were at their peak when closely working together with Sega
>haven't been that good since then
Coincidence....?

>> No.8191773

>>8191767
They were only good on N64

>> No.8191786

treasure should've made their own console. call it, the good game system of the 90s.
we would have loved it.

>> No.8191794

>>8191767
None of those games are Sin and Punishment, Gradius V, or Astro Boy.

>> No.8191796

Why is Australia so obvious?

>> No.8191801

>>8191796
Because he only has 5 threads he cycles through.

>> No.8191814

Top Ten Most Gimmicky Treasure Games:

#10: Alien Soldier (Treasure's boss-rushiest game; what little level design it has is pretty much a fucking joke)
#9: Sin & Punishment (turns into a sidescrolling run 'n gun on the last level; final boss is Missile Command)
#8: Stretch Panic (more of a half-baked tech demo than a proper game)
#7: Dynamite Headdy (turns into a 10-minute shmup halfway through the game)
#6: Silhouette Mirage (polarity system makes the game feel too contrived)
#5: Radiant Silvergun (scoring system makes it feel too much like a puzzle game)
#4: Ikaruga (has both Silvergun's puzzle-y scoring and SM's polarity gimmicks)
#3: Gunstar Heroes (Dice Palace; second to last level turns into a shmup)
#2: Gunstar Super Heroes (see Gunstar, but also the inclusion of Sega "homages")
#1: Mischief Makers (entire game is basically one shitty new gimmick after another)

>> No.8191815

>>8191796
because he's the only person in the world who hates treasure

>> No.8191851
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8191851

DONALDCHADS WHERE WE AT

>> No.8191971
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8191971

>>8191794
>Sin and Punishment
Too casual. I'd rather play the magnum opus of the rail shooting genre: Panzer Dragoon Orta.

>Gradius V
Worst. Gradius. Ever.

>Astro Boy
The bmup stages in that game are LOL. Does it even have more than 5 different enemy types?
Also, even worse slowdowns than a Snezz game during the boss fights. Pathetic.

>> No.8191973

>>8191971
Post your 1ccs

>> No.8192068
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8192068

>>8191767
Imagine if they were still at Konami to this day, they would of never gone into pachinko and leached off of Kojima and Igarashi (and that they would have never left as well) and get Umezaki and Ebisu laid off.

>> No.8192202

>>8191814
>don't even make a game that is different from what I expect
>I don't like different! I don't want things that are different!

The industry has brainwashed you into just accepting the same boring generic formulaic shit every game, and when any dev has some kind of artistic integrity or creative vision that makes them deviate from that, you lose it. You've got brainworms kid.

>> No.8192226

>>8192068
Why did they leave in the first place?

>> No.8192256

>>8192226
Money/lack of pay and forced to make redundant sequels they didn't want to make after the MSX started to flounder due do lack of horizontal scrolling, index colors (16 out of 512 colors isn't enough) and sprites, heres one of them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FyWJLUFNvHU

>> No.8192398

>>8191971
>sin and punishment
>casual
t. played 1 level and quit

>> No.8192432

>>8191773
*also good on N64, but nice try, samefag

>> No.8192479

>>8191773
Mischief Makers sucks, Bangai-O is better on the Dreamcast, and S&P would've been better as a Naomi/Dreamcast title.

>> No.8192519

>>8191971
>Worst. Gradius. Ever.
u havent played gradius galaxies then

>> No.8192532

>>8192398
This

>> No.8192603

>>8192398
>>8192532
>thinks s&p is hard
Is the only other shmup you've ever played before Star Fox? lol

>> No.8192808

Why is everyone here so obsessed with Treasure in one direction or another anyway? They're not exactly a big deal developer.

>> No.8193084

>>8191814
This dude has been crying over the dice palace for years.

>> No.8193610
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>>8193084
Because it's dumb and doesn't belong in a run 'n gun.

>> No.8193726

>>8193610
Just get better at video games and stop whining.

>> No.8193810

>>8193726
Dice Palace isn't hard, lol, it's a waste of time and memory that could've gone to some actual run 'n gun level design like Contra's and Metal Slug's.

>> No.8193937

>>8192603
Post your 1ccs

>> No.8193948

>>8193937
Post your sin and punishment gameplay so I can laugh at how bad you are flailing around like a retard.

>> No.8194008

>>8193948
I'm not the one making declarations on how easy it is. Surely if it is so easy, you dont mind proving it to me and everyone else. :^)

>> No.8194049

>>8194008
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwTCNGAKBZA

Here, copymonkey this a bit and then you can move on to some actually hard shmups like Space Harrier and Night Striker.

>> No.8194276

Shmup players being obsessed with difficulty over literally every single other quality a game has to it are directly the reason why their genre degenerated so hard over the years.

>> No.8194386

>>8194276
It's funny as shit because the most critically acclaimed games of all time aren't that difficult. Challenging? Absolutely. But 90% of games do not fall in that category of intense difficulty. Even shit that has a reputation, like Castlevania or GnG can be bested with practice and pattern recognition.

>> No.8194396

>>8194276
what's the point of playing a videogame if it doesn't challenge u

>> No.8194403

Gaming died when Treasure stopped making games.

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>>8194396

>> No.8194469

>>8194396
This is the brain of a shmup player. You say "there's more to games than challenge" and they say back, "WUT, YOU DON'T LIKE CHALLENGE??" like an ogre incapable of really computing the entirety of the thought.

>> No.8194504

>>8194276
>>8194469
While it's true that some scarce goons from the shmup general at /vg/ dislike Ikaruga for being known among normies, they don't have a raging hateboner for everything Treasure did.
The OP of this thread is Australia-kun, who isn't a shmup player, and is also not a console player, he only likes british microcomputer games and hates console games, especially Nintendo. He hates Treasure because he knows the games are good and he hates that they made exclusive stuff for Nintendo, it's stronger than him, he can't resist outing himself every time he posts on /vr/.
Either laugh at him or ignore him, but don't believe that he's a shmup player, or a sega fan: he's neither of those things. By attacking shmups or Sega, you're doing exactly what he wants.