/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.8188423]

Anyone else have a strange fascination with attempts to "modernize" classic franchises, that never really took off?

[Anonymous No.8188438]

This frog looks so boring and the name is very generic. Are any of his games worth playing.

[Anonymous No.8188447]

>>8188438
Probably not particularly. I don't think the original Frogger is even that good of an arcade game.

[Anonymous No.8188463]

>>8188447
What about Croc he is kind of bad too.

[Anonymous No.8188482]

For me it's orange vest Frogger. I miss this nigga.

[Anonymous No.8188498]

>>8188423
>>8188447
I really enjoyed this game but it was way too short. This game really brings me back. Some might even say it had soul.

[Anonymous No.8188530]

There were fucking many these during the PS2 gen and most were the pits, like you don't even fight a giant head of Mr Big in the NARC reboot
>>8188423
One of the worst games of that generation and the worst published by a big publisher.

[Anonymous No.8188683]

>>8188438
Swampy's Revenge and Helmet Chaos, I remember liking Adventures: The Rescue too

[Anonymous No.8188879]

>always loved Frogger when i was younger.
>Years go by
>See a commercial for this
>"what the, is that Frogger?"
>never hear about the Frogger franchise ever again in any gaming landscape

Guess it bombed huh? I didn't have a PS2 back then so I couldn't play it. I just found it so weird in my life that the commercial for this game was my absolute last exposure to anything Frogger ever again.

[Anonymous No.8188890]

Is this game any good? I learned it's the sequel to Swampy's Revenge without the Frogger branding.

[Anonymous No.8188891]

>>8188423
was alright

[Anonymous No.8188892]

this game is awesome and fuck anyone who disagrees

[Anonymous No.8188905]

Fucking black magic.
I remembered this game only yesterday, watched some youtube clips and now there's a thread on 4chan. And it's not even a very popular series.

The game looks super weird though, this is what probably Superfrog were if went 3D.

[Anonymous No.8188916]

>>8188423
>attempts to "modernize" classic franchises

Examples?
I can only remember Pac-Man World, which is frustratingly hard at certain points but still cool. Also it does have the best cgi intro in history of videogames, that shit is should be in museum (Namco museum)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IwLnlWACzzs

Their most recent attempt to reboot Pacman and made it zoomer hip is only 20% good

[Anonymous No.8188917]

>>8188482
This game gets incredibly brutal if not downright sadistic later on. The final level has this part with an enemy swinging a huge spike ball, and after doing a vertical jump you only have barely enough time to walk a couple more tiles and jump again, plus there are crumbling platforms which you need to fucking spin around on. Don't even get me started on doing this level as Berry where you only have the standard four health pieces.

[Anonymous No.8188989]

>>8188916
>Examples?
rygar ps2 is fucking awesome. also god of war ripped them off hard (and did it worse)

[Anonymous No.8188997]

The Space Invaders reboot Space Raiders.
>>8188892
Nobody hates on PW2.

[Anonymous No.8189036]

>>8188423
I enjoy them. Something innocent about them

[Anonymous No.8189269]

>>8188423
I do. In the late to mid 90s there were a shit load of remakes/reboots/reimaginings of mostly arcade games and while some were pretty crap there was some charm to them. Enter 6th gen and companies tried to get more ambitious and most of them didn't fare very well. >>8188530 one of the first games that come to mind sadly. Some games just couldn't exist in that time and modernizing the game made it stray too far from what made it cool to begin with

[Anonymous No.8189302]

In the early 90s arcade legend Eugene Jarvis re-envisioned his classic titles Robotron and Defender into the edgier Smash TV and Strike Force respectively, while Smash TV was a hit it never got a true sequel and no one talks about Strike Force. In 1997 Robotron would get a reboot on the PSX/N64 with Robotron X/64 and Defender would get the full 3d reboot treatment in the early 00s neither of which were very well received.

[Anonymous No.8189392]

>>8188891
The very idea of pong having a sequel makes me laugh for some reason. Also I like how they try to make it sound cooler with "the next level" thing.

[Anonymous No.8189547]

>>8188498
>Some might even say it had soul.
lol no, literally the only soulless game out of the 6th gen Frogger bunch. It was considered shit then, and shit now. Don't let nostalgia blind you

[Anonymous No.8189581]

>>8189547
>the ones where all you do is hop in front of cars had more soul than a fantasy adventure game
interesting take

[Anonymous No.8189596]

Remember that awkward era where they were trying to bring a bunch of old arcade games into 3D console games?

[Anonymous No.8189652]

>>8189581
I kind of liked this one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9hPfTejYco

[Anonymous No.8189657]

>>8189596
I kind of liked this one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9hPfTejYco

[Anonymous No.8189701]

>>8188438
The Great Quest is notoriously awful. Not even like a funny haha /vr/ hates it but it’s well liked really sort of thing. It’s genuinely diabolically terrible

[Anonymous No.8189709]

BY MY BALLS GIRL

[Anonymous No.8189743]

>>8188530
Midway was king in this sense...
>Narc
>Spy Hunter
>Area 51
>The endless Gauntlet sequels...

[Anonymous No.8189781]

>>8188423
Lots of people on this board seem to praise Sonic games that were released past Genesis religiously.

[Anonymous No.8189796]

>>8189743
Area 51 was an okayish FPS, even got a sequel. My friend had Spy Hunter but we never played it, I guess he thought it was boring.

[Anonymous No.8189809]

>>8188891
>>8189392
It was a pretty good game though. It's basically like a collection of minigames, tons of different variations of pong / breakout.

[Anonymous No.8189814]

>>8189743
>People loved Legends and Dark Legacy so let's take everything people loved about them and throw it into the fucking trash

[Anonymous No.8189832]

I remember coming across a demo for Sinistar Unleashed as a kid who really liked the Sinistar arcade game. I was utterly fucking flummoxed, and could not for the life of me figure out what the fuck I was supposed to do. So the story goes, it wasn't even intended to be a Sinistar game, but once THQ licensed the brand from Midway, they adjusted the game design to make it fit the Sinistar dynamic.

[Anonymous No.8189907]

>>8189657
Had this on PC as a kid

[Anonymous No.8190104]

>>8189581
Yeah, it was clearly a rushed, unfinished mess and the reception at the time reflected it. Why else do you think they immediately went back to the superior grid-based adventure gameplay of Swampy's Revenge?
Makes me wonder why they even temporarily scrapped it for a Rayman 2 clone in the first place

[Anonymous No.8190343]

>>8190104
The game may have been rushed out, doesnt necessarily mean the game designers didnt put any of themselves into it. I liked a lot of the characters a lot.

[Anonymous No.8190356]

>>8190343
no amount of reasoning can convince anyone but you that this game was at least some wasted potential

[Anonymous No.8190368]

loved it

[Anonymous No.8190376]

>>8188917
Frogger beyond is brutal like this too.

[Anonymous No.8190435]

>>8190356
Have fun with your grid-based frogger game with no memorable worlds or characters

[Anonymous No.8190447]

>>8188892
>>8188916
how can everyone forget PacMan 2. The shittiest pacman game where they decided to give him "emotions and personality" which meant he was always pissed off and refused to ever listen to you

[Anonymous No.8190470]

>>8190447
I think there's the basis of a good game there, but they should have made it more like a virtual pet, so that improving Pac-Man's mood wasn't so difficult and situational.

[Anonymous No.8190764]

>>8190447
>not liking Pac Man 2: the SOUL adventures

[Anonymous No.8190771]

>>8190447
>getting filtered by fucking Pac-Man 2 of all things

[Anonymous No.8190793]

>>8189709
This game sucked and isn't even retro but Tyris's design got my dick hard.

[Anonymous No.8190824]

>>8189302
Eugene Jarvis was involved with Nex Machina and it is very great

>>8189657
>>8190368
Space Invaders is a surprisingly consistent franchise for quality

>>8188438
The So_y Gaystation redesign of Frogger is crap, pic related is canon

[Anonymous No.8190829]

there was a Wii port too

[Anonymous No.8190843]

>>8190829
I swear the spacing on those letters isn't right.
>legen da ry

[Anonymous No.8190868]

Helmet Chaos is kino and Tetris Worlds is underrated.

[Anonymous No.8190895]

>>8190843
>can’t unsee
I think the spacing is ok though I think it’s just an optical illusion

[Anonymous No.8191421]

>>8190829
I was excited when I read they were porting it... Until I saw the redesign

[Anonymous No.8191447]

>>8188423
dunno if this really counts, as it's actually pretty good, but eh. wish they'd do somethin like this for ninja gaiden.

[Anonymous No.8192220]

>>8188423
I bought this game when I was like 11. I was young and could look past many things but this was really a smelly piece of shit. I have regretted my decision ever since.

[Anonymous No.8192247]

>>8190824
I didn't bring up Nex because it's not /vr/
but since you brought it not only did he help with Nex Machina he founded Raw Thrills aka the last American arcade game maker including the the recent Cruis'n Blast which is fucking great.>>8190829
This was one deserved to take off, a legit great transition to 3d.
>>8191447
This doesn't count because it took off enough to get three sequels and is good.

[Anonymous No.8192253]

>>8192220
>>8190824
I didn't bring up Nex because it's not /vr/
but since you brought it not only did he help with Nex Machina he founded Raw Thrills aka the last American arcade game maker including the the recent Cruis'n Blast which is fucking great.
>>8190829
This was one deserved to take off, a legit great transition to 3d.
>>8191447
This doesn't count because it took off enough to get three sequels and is good.

[Anonymous No.8192316]

>>8188423
The first two levels of this are unironically fun, the third level takes a huge nosedive in quality.

[Anonymous No.8192323]

>>8188890
No. I got this in the bargain bin and my friends and I played it for half an hour. We still meme about it to this day.

I remember you had to tap to move a square forward, and there was a power-up to let you hold forward to auto-move. It was like they locked good controls behind a power-up, which was fucking weird.

[Anonymous No.8192332]

Speaking of, any of these attempts that successfully took off?

[Anonymous No.8192337]

>>8189814
Fucking this. It was so different. At least Gauntlet 2014 kind of took the bad taste out of my mouth.

[Anonymous No.8192362]

>>8192332
Gauntlet IV -> Gauntlet Legends

Shadowrun -> Shadowrun

I haven't played it, but I assume the Kid Icarus revival on 3DS was decent.

[Anonymous No.8192363]

I don't think Nintendo things really count for this thread, most of their old stuff still gets decent exposure due to their massive fanbase and Smash Bros. Still, Punch-Out Wii was good for what it was.

[Anonymous No.8192369]

guys we have dubstep

[Anonymous No.8192373]

>>8192332
Ninja Gaiden.
I guess this also gets into the question of at what point is something just a sequel, and at what point can it be regarded as a series reboot or revival. Does Metal Gear Solid count? Metroid Prime? I don't really know.

[Anonymous No.8192382]

>>8192362
>Gauntlet IV -> Gauntlet Legends
gay and wrong

[Anonymous No.8192390]

>>8192373
True, Ninja Gaiden is probably the best example. Also you make a good point

for example >>8192362 I wouldn't say Gaunlet fits this thread, there was only a 5 year difference between Gaunlet IV and Legends. That would be like bringing up Mario World and Mario 64, or F-Zero and F-Zero X, they are just sequels, not "revivals".

[Anonymous No.8192396]

>>8192369
a great game by a great developer, shame the name comes with so much baggage attached. The story ended up being pretty stupid too

[Anonymous No.8192517]

>>8192363
I think its one of the best games on the Wii. Next Level Games did a great job modernizing the characters attack patterns and animations.

[Anonymous No.8192545]

>>8188423
The Pac-Man reboots (Ms Pac-Man Maze Madness, Pac-Man World 1 & 2) are based though.
>>8190447
Never played the game but the animations are awesome. Very charming.

[Anonymous No.8193330]

Mediocre game, kinda gets redeemed with how much fun Spencer is in UMvC3

There are also the ReArmed games, which I heard are better but haven't got around to play those

[Anonymous No.8193701]

>>8192253
Blaster Master Zero got TWO sequels not three, you RETARD!

[Anonymous No.8193776]

>>8188892
PW2 was pretty good on its own, but the first game was better in almost every way.
>unique environments like a pirate cove, an amusement park and a Halloween-themed mansion vs generic forest, desert, ice etc
>no on-rails water levels
>actually interesting mazes with unique obstacles in each one

[Anonymous No.8193780]

Fuck you, I liked it.

[Anonymous No.8193817]

>>8193780
Would you say that it is "off the wall fun"?

[Anonymous No.8193819]

>>8193776
It's weird how actually high quality the Pac-Man franchise tends to be, and yet anything outside of the original arcades gets pretty much ignored. Championship Edition's a lot of fun too.

[Anonymous No.8194349]

>>8188423
Nobody talks about this game. The series creator literally quit making videogames after this game and nearly forbid Ubisoft from making the Sands of Time

[Anonymous No.8194370]

I'm trying to find good footage of the Asteroid games made in the late 90s and there is barely any at all. There is only one single youtube video of the PC game, ONLY ONE. Just shows how forgotten asteroids is. I'm pretty sure the only reason footage of the n64 game exists is because doing a longplay of every n64 game is a realistic goal to set for yourself. Nobody makes a youtube video of this game because they like it

[Anonymous No.8194394]

>>8194370
There's an MS DOS game called Astro Fire that I used to play a lot. I don't think it's any kind of officially licensed Asteroids sequel, but that's what it is.

[Anonymous No.8194471]

>>8194370
I played an asteroids game on playstation

[Anonymous No.8196141]

>>8194370
Is it even slightly good

[Anonymous No.8196143]

>>8194370
IMO this is one of the worst games om the N64. I've enjoyed nearly every N64 game I've ever owned but this one is fucking trash. The entire game spans like 3 different backgrounds repeated ad nauseum, and all you do is flying a tiny ship around shooting different sized rocks and avoiding collision with slippery as fuck controls. There's no cool unlockables, special enemy stages, nothing. Just your little dicklet ship shooting rocks against one of three hideously boring backdrops. Insanely mundane game.

[Anonymous No.8196147]

>>8196141
The N64 version has bosses that would make even the worst quarter eater arcade games look tame by comparison

[Anonymous No.8196152]

>>8196143
>>8196147
ok but surely THIS must be ok

[Anonymous No.8196208]

>>8192332
Prince of Persia: The Sands of Time - Nuff said.
Tempest 2000 - Came fourteen years after original and kicked ass, didn't change a lot though.
King's Bounty: The Legend - A Russian made sequel to the proto-HoMM and a fun one at that, sadly got milked to death.
Fantasy General II - Another great sequel to a classic PC title.
>>8192337
That one was ok but need more colour.
>>8192363
Great fucking game.

[Anonymous No.8196358]

>>8196143
Sounds like Asteroids.