/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.8174419]

What are some good SNES-exclusive beat em ups?

[Anonymous No.8174428]

>>8174419
People shall very soon bring up Batman Returns in this thread but do not be tricked, OP: any single-player game is instantly disqualified as a beat em up

[Anonymous No.8174432]

Batman Returns, you can punch rockets.

[Anonymous No.8174439]

Final Fight 3. You can get fucked from behind by Andore.

[Anonymous No.8174441]

>>8174419
Ninja Warriors is the best (by far) and then the remaster is even better.

[Anonymous No.8174443]

Take the sonic blast pill

[Anonymous No.8174456]

>SNES
>Beat em ups
>3 enemies at most
>Good

[Anonymous No.8174462]

>>8174456
>Good
Agreed

[Anonymous No.8174481]

>>8174456
It couldn't handle any more than that, remember, the SNES only runs at 1/3rd the speed compared to ALL it's competitors. It was simply too slow to perform beat em ups to the same level of quality as other, far more powerful 16-bit hardware.

[Anonymous No.8174487]

>>8174481
That's not even the problem. The problem is being able to load graphical for more than 3 different TYPES of enemies. Plenty of SNES beat em ups have sections with more than 3 enemies at once, it's up to 5 in FF3 for instance, but it's 5x the same one enemy

[Anonymous No.8174489]

>>8174439
>>8174441
>>8174443
>>8174432
OP #btfo

[Anonymous No.8174510]

>>8174487
Yes, the SNES only having 16 kbs VRAM for sprites is certainly another bottlenecking factor, and yet another design flaw which did not exist on any of it's competitors, and seriously constrained it's games by comparison. Quite sad and pathetic that the SNES, despite being two years newer and more expensive than the Mega Drive, struggles to perform with one of the staple 16-bit genres.

[Anonymous No.8174520]

>>8174487
I guess three types is plenty then, cause nobody ever thought this was a problem back then. I doubt most people even noticed.

[Anonymous No.8174525]

>good beat em ups

[Anonymous No.8174528]

*is the best beat em up of the 16-bit generation in your path*

[Anonymous No.8174536]

>>8174528
Why is red clothes and blonde hair such a God-tier pallette for female characters? I swear any character with this scheme is instantaneously pleasing to look at.

[Anonymous No.8174542]

Undercover Cops manages 3 enemies or more, and then there's stuff like the birdie pickups that run all over the screen with tons of them. Damn good game and a challenge - better arcade version but it's admirable the level of sprite detail made it over.

Ghost Chaser Densei removes 3 characters from Denjin Makai, the arcade version, but adds new moves, new story, and more balance for the single player. The amount of enemies at once isn't neutered either - they probably got round it by having less animated zako enemies alongside the better ones that usually just manage a rush at you before being jabbed offscreen. It's well coded though.

[Anonymous No.8174564]

>>8174481
PCE and amishit were just as bad for beat em upa dumbfag, obly Genesis did any better and mostly for SoR

[Anonymous No.8174590]

>>8174564
Incorrect.
https://youtu.be/OhmeMkVkUCs?t=940
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4RwK3YqLRkg

[Anonymous No.8174591]

>>8174462
Nice ass
>>8174487
>>8174439
FF3 is cool, though I wish they'd kept a bit more of the gritty aesthetic from the first two games for the character designs instead of going more towards anime for everything.

[Anonymous No.8174604]

>>8174590
Looks like your typical Amiga jank that would be considered mediocre at best on a console. At least it's better than any other beat em up on the platform. That isn't really saying much when others on the platform look like this though.

[Anonymous No.8174623]

>>8174604
When you don't even have to execute carefully timed quick turns to stunlock enemies with an infinite punch loop

[Anonymous No.8174626]

>>8174604
>thinks he's proving a point with a shoddy, rushed Amiga port
>Amiga port still has larger enemies than the SNES was capable of, with less slowdowns
It's like you don't even need to try with nintendrones, they do themselves in just as aptly.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3L3nZ0m7VNM

[Anonymous No.8174627]

>>8174590
Not even a game yet and it'll be shit like any other amiga trash. I will play Ninja Warriors Again instead, the best 16-bits beat 'em up.

[Anonymous No.8174631]

>>8174626
>actually posting pooprium as a good thing
Oh nonono

[Anonymous No.8174634]

>>8174626
>shoddy, rushed Amiga port
Isn't that the excuse for every shitty Amiga game? Did anyone put any effort into games for that platform?
>posting Paprium as an example of a good beat em up
LOL

[Anonymous No.8174648]

>>8174626
Yeah, the graphics in that Amiga port look nice enough, but I don't even have to play it to see how badly they fucked up the mechanics. For all its flaws, the SNES port at least plays like the arcade game, and skills you pick up in that port carry over to the arcade version.

[Anonymous No.8174683]

>>8174627
>I will play Ninja Warriors Again instead, the best 16-bits beat 'em up.
based af

>>8174591
>Nice ass
aye

[Anonymous No.8174712]

>>8174528
>Single plane cringe em up
Imagine not being able to walk isometrically hahahahaha

[Anonymous No.8174717]

>>8174712
Don't discuss games you haven't played, thank you.

[Anonymous No.8174723]

>>8174712
The SNES would not be able to handle a game such as Ninja Warriors were it multi-planar, as again, the CPU runs at a mere 1/3rd the speed compared to ALL it's competitors, it was simply too slow. This is evidenced by multi-planar games on the SNES having far fewer enemies, far more debilitating slowdowns, and far worst AI.

[Anonymous No.8174730]

>>8174723
wow, even more amazing how they got such great results out of it then!

[Anonymous No.8174732]

>>8174723
It doesn't seem that faster processor did the Amiga any good >>8174604
How embarrassing.

[Anonymous No.8175151]

>>8174441
They actually gave her bigger titties, fucking basado

[Anonymous No.8175304]

>>8174634
>Did anyone put any effort into games for that platform?
Yes

[Anonymous No.8175619]

>>8174723
And Nintendo still got the best 16-bits beat em up? Based as fuck

[Anonymous No.8175625]

>>8175619
Laughably wrong.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-fd5wRZ7hP8

[Anonymous No.8175638]

>>8175625
>Streets of Rage 2
learn how to 1cc arcade bmups and you'll never be able to go back to shites of rage and will see all its abysmal flaws, the only thing good about it is the music. It's clunky, overlong, eats inputs on higher modes, has absolutely no balancing so they just chucked lives at you like candy to get around it on higher difficulties, and teaches you bad habits whilst starving you of having to learn proper skills which are necessary to 1cc arcade bmups. It's passable by console standards and nothing more, can't hold a candle to the top 15 arcade bmups.

[Anonymous No.8175771]

>>8175638
>top 15 arcade bmups.
List them

[Anonymous No.8175861]

>>8174487
>>8174723
SoR are the only MD bmups that are technically impressive at all

Play e.g. Splatterhouse 3 and it's single player, 3 enemies at a time, constant slowdown, no different from SNES. Other games are not much better. HH is total shit compared to TiT for instance.

[Anonymous No.8175906]

>>8175861
And SoR still runs at like 1/3 colors compared to Ninja Warriors Again

[Anonymous No.8175915]

>>8174443
this cover rules

[Anonymous No.8175931]

>>8175861
That's a PS4 game, not an SNES game. Also, not retro.

[Anonymous No.8175958]

>>8175638
Literally all of this is wrong and arcade beat em ups were my first 1ccs.

[Anonymous No.8175969]

>>8175958
shites of rage rot your brain, bozo

[Anonymous No.8176000]

>>8175969
the seethe coming off of this post is intense

[Anonymous No.8176003]

>>8175969
Clearly it hurt your ego if you take it this personally; I'm guessing the elevator stage on mania broke you?

[Anonymous No.8176005]

>>8176000
>>8176003
sor shitters immediately getting defensive when people speak the truth about their garbage games, how surprising

[Anonymous No.8176018]

>>8176005
Not even a fan of streets2 just pointing out your inaccuracies. Also...
Wondering what caused your overreaction and emotional posting? How did it get to you THIS hard? Tell us the story

[Anonymous No.8176038]

>>8176005
>the truth

[Anonymous No.8176039]

>>8176018
>just pointing out your inaccuracies
being a sorfag isn't an argument, bozo
>Wondering what caused your overreaction and emotional posting?
you tell me, i'm not the one seething over old pasta lmao

[Anonymous No.8176061]

>>8174419
final fight 2 is just one big massive coping mechanism for a lack of sor2 on snes. it's chunky, bland and utterly mediocre in a series of ports that already embarrass their arcade counterpart. you could of course play an actually good version of final fight on the sega cd but wouldn't want to disappoint miyamoto-sama by not exclusively playing nintendo shit
>>8175638
>sor2 is bad because uhhhh ummmm m-muh skill! yeah that's it
sure takes a whole mountain of skill to deal with only 3 enemies on screen at once as opposed to 7, not to mention much less moves

[Anonymous No.8176062]

>>8176039
>>8175969
stop seething for a minute, and tell us where sor hurt u

[Anonymous No.8176068]

>>8176062
its simple really. he's known sor was better deep in his heart since he was a kid, but since a snes and final fight are what his parents got him, he's spent his whole life doing mental gymnastics as to why it has to be better since it was on the thing he happened to own as opposed to the other thing

[Anonymous No.8176071]

>>8176061
>sor 2 is good because uhhh m-muh music!!!
two can play that game bozo
>as opposed to 7
sor2 doesn't have 7 enemies on screen, see how you are a clueless retard who didn't even play the games? what a dumb cunt lmao
>>8176062
in the same spot where random old pasta hurt u friend

[Anonymous No.8176089]

>>8176071
sor2's music is just one of the many things it does better than final fight but especially final fight 2. though most of the time i play it with the sound off so the music clearly isn't what's keeping me coming back so its moot anyway
>sor2 doesn't have 7 enemies on screen
please play the game. i know you're still addicted to playground politics but come on

[Anonymous No.8176107]

>>8176089
>final fight 2
wow sor2 is better than even worse console shit, big surprise there champ!
>please play the game
yes you do it, the game doesn't have 7 enemies on screen, dumb piece of shit.

[Anonymous No.8176112]

>>8176107
nincels have such shitty attention spans that they can't even remember the op of the very threads they cry in. and weren't you the one insisting ff2 was better to begin with?
>the game doesn't have 7 enemies on screen
that's just plain wrong. sorry you're so used to 3-enemy mediocrity that you can't get past the first stage

[Anonymous No.8176116]

>>8176112
>nincels
nice boogieman, couldn't care less about your autistic console wars stating that shit is better than crap, stupid cunt.
>and weren't you the one insisting ff2 was better to begin with?
where exactly? what an autistic strawman retard lmao
still waiting for your 7 enemies on-screen proof, protip: it doesn't exist you fucking shitbrain

[Anonymous No.8176128]

>>8174419
>good snes beat em ups
None. Play SoR2 and you'll never want to go back to SNES beat em ups with their 2-3 max enemies on screen.

[Anonymous No.8176135]

>>8176128
>Streets of Rage 2
learn how to 1cc arcade bmups and you'll never be able to go back to shites of rage and will see all its abysmal flaws, the only thing good about it is the music. It's clunky, overlong, eats inputs on higher modes, has absolutely no balancing so they just chucked lives at you like candy to get around it on higher difficulties, and teaches you bad habits whilst starving you of having to learn proper skills which are necessary to 1cc arcade bmups. It's passable by console standards and nothing more, can't hold a candle to the top 15 arcade bmups.

[Anonymous No.8176137]

>>8175969
>>8176071
>posts '''copy pasta''
>seethes more than everyone

[Anonymous No.8176139]

>>8176135
I know this is copy pasta but Kung fu is one of my favourite arcade beat em ups. How exactly will learning how to 1cc it make me stop liking SoR2?

[Anonymous No.8176141]

>>8176137
>he said, while seething again over 2yo pasta

[Anonymous No.8176156]

>>8176128
Such a shame, perhaps if the SNES wasn't crippled with a CPU running at a mere 1/3rd the speed compared to ALL it's competitors, it could have had a decent shot at performing beat em ups to a respectable degree.

[Anonymous No.8176161]

>>8176116
not a strawman. its in fact the only reason to prefer the snes final fights over streets of rage thats in any way coherent. after all the games themselves are clearly inferior in every way
>it doesn't exist you fucking shitbrain
literally on the first section of the game and i'd already be at 7 if i had a second player. please play the game

[Anonymous No.8176175]

>>8176161
>wahwah genesis trash is better than snes trash
tell your mom about it, idgaf if it's still garbage compared to arcades.
>literally on the first section of the game
Can you even count? that's 5 you fucking retard holy shit.
> i'd already be at 7 if i had a second playe
no it's max 6 and only for certain areas plus it eats inputs like crazy.
what a clueless retard who doesn't even play the game he claims to defend lmfao

[Anonymous No.8176197]

>>8176175
>idgaf
you came in here defending final fight by crying about non-existent issues in streets of rage. enough with this holier than thou shit. literally the ONLY reason to prefer the final fight ports is console fanboyism. i never had snes OR a genesis and i can easily see that sor2 is superior. sor1 is leagues better even
>that's 5 you fucking retard holy shit
this is about technical limitations. there's six characters on screen clearly and would be 7 if there was a second player
>no it's max 6 and only for certain areas
oh interesting so the actual limit is 8, even better
>plus it eats inputs like crazy
there's no way anyone saying ff2 is better would even notice this even if it were true. you just aren't that good at beat em ups if three enemies is your comfort zone

[Anonymous No.8176214]

>>8176197
>you came in here defending final fight
no I didn't, keep strawmanning schizo
>non-existent issues in streets of rage
unbalanced shit gameplay and eating inputs are real problems, schizo.
>literally the ONLY reason to prefer the final fight ports is console fanboyism
where did i say anything about snes final fight? this guy is legit mentally ill with the console wars shit lol
>would be 7
>the actual limit is 8
case in point, what a fucking schizo.

[Anonymous No.8176226]

>>8176214
i have no idea why you're even here if not to defend final fight against streets of rage. feels like you're just backpedaling cause you've realized there's no actual positive comparison for final fight 2
>unbalanced shit gameplay and eating inputs
yknow i could say random negative adjectives about final fight and it wouldn't automatically be valid

[Anonymous No.8176234]

>>8176214
>it was just 2yr old pasta bro!
>still seething and also repeating -copy pasta-
>"schizo" schizo "schizo''
damn exposed yourself

[Anonymous No.8176237]

>>8176226
I don't know why you're replying to him, unless you are him.

[Anonymous No.8176243]

streets of rage 2 is literally arcade quality, it got ported to arcade cause it was hype fire and still is today

[Anonymous No.8176257]

>>8176226
>i have no idea why you're even here if not to defend final fight against streets of rage
not everyone is a binary thinkning schizo like you, to begin with.
>random negative adjectives
unbalance and eating inputs are gameplay facts, not negative adjectives you schizo.
maybe you'll understand when you actually play games instead of being a consolewars schizo.

[Anonymous No.8176547]

>make a simple thread about good SNES-exclusive BMUs
>a couple post in and some console warring fag lays a big old turd
>Amigar poster defending some downright horrific FF port because muh graphics and muh no slowdown
>some console warring SOR fanboy comes in and joins in by going on a multipost, off-topic schizo rant

[Anonymous No.8176549]

>>8176547
fun part is all of those is the same schizo.

[Anonymous No.8176552]

>>8174419
The X-men game is pretty good. Its standout feature being Psylocke.

[Anonymous No.8176560]

>>8176552
>king of dragons
>ninja warriors again
>ghost chaser densei
solid collectorfag, now play them

[Anonymous No.8176568]

>>8176257
>unbalance and eating inputs are gameplay facts, not negative adjectives you schizo.
>maybe you'll understand when you actually play games instead of being a consolewars schizo.
so it wasn't copy pasta, since you're repeating it over and over in all your seething posts, i guess it filtered you and now you blame lost inputs for sucking at real bmups
exposed

[Anonymous No.8176576]

>>8176568
>since you're repeating it over and over
everyone who played the game to a decent level knows and complains about the input eating garbage, including the best sor2, not my problem if you are a clueless retarded non-player who never noticed it.

[Anonymous No.8176578]

>>8176568
>since you're repeating it over and over
because it's the truth retard, everyone who played the game to a decent level knows about the input eating garbage, including the best sor2 player, not my problem if you are a clueless retarded non-player who never even noticed it.

[Anonymous No.8176589]

>>8176578
>parroting a speedrunner
Meanwhilst he overcomes those nitpicks and it's probably one of his fav games, right, whilst you are seething and filtered
Funny how coping works ;*)

[Anonymous No.8176594]

>>8176589
people will play the worst shit nowadays and still enjoy it, that doesn't make its obvious flaws inexistent, schizo.

[Anonymous No.8176617]

>>8176594
someone who hates sor2 this fucking much must absolutely be a snes final fight fanboy. i can't conceive of any other reason to be so bitter about it specifically
>>8176257
>abloobloo stop bringing up console wars
the final fight snes ports only exist as attempted competition for streets of rage. just because you don't like being called out as an obvious nincel doesn't mean its irreverent

[Anonymous No.8176620]

>>8176617
and here is the pathetic console wars schizo talking to himself again LOL

[Anonymous No.8176621]

>>8176589
Shitters have the biggest egos don't they, he 100% got filtered by sor2.

[Anonymous No.8176634]

>>8176621
rich coming from a console wars retard who doesn't even play games.

[Anonymous No.8176648]

>>8176620
what do you gain from believing i'm him?

[Anonymous No.8176658]

>>8176648
right, maybe you are just another person who is just as retarded as that guy.

[Anonymous No.8176679]

>>8176658
oh come on at least i'm not lying through my teeth about how above console wars i am as i insist sor2 is the worst thing ever and that final fight is so much better for literally no stated reason. you can tell he's fanboying cause he can only defend ff with these contrived putdowns of sor2. can't mention any supposed thing ff does better of course because it doesn't actually do anything better and i think he knows it.

[Anonymous No.8176694]

>>8176679
you are the only console wars schizo here forcing the sor vs snes final fight shit, I already stated multiple times that i dislike both, mentally ill tranny.

[Anonymous No.8176703]

>>8176694
arguments between them were already well underway before i even got here

[Anonymous No.8176708]

>>8176703
in your schizo mind for sure, everyone knows the only good final fight is the arcade.

[Anonymous No.8176713]

Bump to schizo thread
>>8176708
What about Sega CD Final Fight?

[Anonymous No.8176716]

>>8176713
fucked up combo speed, max 4 enemies, fucked up weapon animation among other bugs

[Anonymous No.8176724]

>>8176708
>schizo schizo schizo schizo schizo
constant repetition like this is a sign of insanity. stop projecting. since you're too insane to scroll up a bit i guess, i'll show you:
>>8175619
>>8175625
>>8175638
notice how the first post was a delusional snes fanboy and the reply is just a link to sor2 gameplay, which was enough in of itself to get the snes fanboys in a tizzy? who's the defensive console fanboy here? and even better, then the fanboy decided to go on this 1cc input lag tirade because someone DARED to compare sor2 to muh glorious undisclosed snes beat em ups that are apparently so good. but yeah sure i'm the fanboy schizo schizo schizo

[Anonymous No.8176732]

>>8176716
But doesn't it has the most kino intro and music?

[Anonymous No.8176737]

>>8176724
no mention of snes final fight in any of those posts, way to prove you are a schizo seething over pasta and facts.
>1cc input lag
input lag isn't the same as eating inputs, maybe you should start playing games instead of being a mentally ill console wars tranny

[Anonymous No.8176738]

>>8176737
>no mention of snes final fight in any of those posts
maybe mention one of these fabled non-ff snes beat em ups that are apparently so good. obviously ff was the most popular so when talking about general snes beat em ups, mentioning it is inevitable
>input lag isn't the same as eating inputs,
it's almost like nobody knows what the fuck you're talking about because it isn't an issue either way. you only even know about it because some speedrunner brought it up. if it requires speedrunner-tier precision that i hardly consider it worth mentioning

[Anonymous No.8176742]

>>8176732
the intro is fun, the music is hit or miss imo.

[Anonymous No.8176759]

>>8176738
The title was in the quote you absolute retard, either way why bother with a console wars fag who doesn't even play games?
>it's almost like nobody knows what the fuck you're talking about
not my problem if you are an ignorant retard who doesn't know basic gameplay terminology, again, play more games instead of being a console wars basic bitch.
>you only even know about it because some speedrunner brought it up
lol no, anyone who doesn't play like a retard can easily notice it

[Anonymous No.8176769]

>>8176759
all this cherrypicking and mental gymnastics to avoid thinking of a good snes beat em up. really makes you think

[Anonymous No.8176774]

>>8176769
>doesn't want to bring the game HE posted because he knows sor2 is shit in comparison
i know

[Anonymous No.8177871]

>>8174528
For consoles, I believe you are correct

Another right answer to OP is Turtles in Time, it's different enough from the arcade to be considered exclusive I think

[Anonymous No.8177886]

>>8176552
based and psylockepilled

[Anonymous No.8177935]

>>8174419
Pirates of Dark Water, there is another Pirates of Dark Water game on Genesis but it's not a beat em up. It's got a great soundtrack too
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5bg9TElD-lg

[Anonymous No.8177951]

>>8177935
i like this game a lot and also have a lot of nostalgia for this series watching it in early cartoon network circa 93 or 94.

[Anonymous No.8177981]

>>8174456
Why was snes so prone to slowdowns? Genesis aged way better due to this. If it wasn't the literal most top tier snes exclusives you might as well just play Genesis desu. Genesis homebrew scene seems to be much more active to so this cannot be a mistake or coincidence.

[Anonymous No.8178003]

>>8177981
The CPU is massively deficient, running only 1/3rd the speed compared to not only the Mega Drive, but ALL it's competitors. This bottlenecked the system is many serious ways, leading to issues with gameplay that were simply not apparent in the rest of the 16-bit generation. It is also the main reason homebrew does not exist on the SNES: Why would someone with the intellect needed to program for one of those consoles choose the SNES when literally anything else is 3 TIMES more powerful?

[Anonymous No.8178013]

>>8174536
The Matrix

[Anonymous No.8178031]

>>8178003
That is quite amazing actually. This should have never been the case at all.

[Anonymous No.8178172]

>>8177981
How come many Genesis games are loaded with slowdowns, though? Bloodlines has more slowdowns than Super Castlevania IV, Mega Man Wily Wars have more slowdowns than any Mega Man on SNES.
Even arcade hardware had slowdowns though, it seems it was something that wasn't seen as something terrible - and most of the time it wasn't, it's not like the games were chugging at 3fps as if they were Spectrum games.
I think the modern autism regarding slowdowns is a bit exaggerated. Not sure if zoomers who get alienated by slowdowns (don't think so because framedrops are common in modern games, and modern games are even slower than retro games, at least arcade and japanese console games) or just obsessive old men who still can't let go of old console wars... probably the later.

[Anonymous No.8178176]

>>8177886
why does psylocke always have an amazing shoryuken

[Anonymous No.8178350]

>>8176552
I remember one of those Rushing Beat games allowed you to create custom color palettes for every character in the game (enemies too), which ate hours of my life.