/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.8159124]

sega system kids were disappointed to get a boss rush contra instead of the proper run 'n gun SNES contra

[Anonymous No.8159182]

Contra 3 is based but I wish they made an actual moder 7 shooter.

[Anonymous No.8159535]

Both games are great. Why arbitrarily pick one?

[Anonymous No.8159551]

>>8159124
>sega system
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xcO_U9Jceps

[Anonymous No.8159557]

>>8159124
Nintendo system kids were disappointed to get a top down shooter instead of playing a werewolf with a gun for a arm.

[Anonymous No.8159561]

>>8159557
>instead of playing a werewolf with a gun for a arm.
Such a based game. Genesis really does

[Anonymous No.8159919]

Hard Corps is a much better game than Contra III.

[Anonymous No.8159986]

Nes was best

[Anonymous No.8160112]

The constant cutscenes and boss dialogue fuck up the pacing more than all the mode7s in the real Contra on snes. So glad I have a fast forward hotkey on my emulator half the game is fucking waiting for bosses to appear, do their taunts and then die and shapeshift do a taunt, repeat and then dialogue scene wtf

[Anonymous No.8160124]

>>8159124
Yet it's the best.

[Anonymous No.8160145]

Boss fights are the best part of Contra. If I want to shoot grunts, I'll play Metal Slug.

[Anonymous No.8160146]

>>8160112
This, hard corps is all style no substance

[Anonymous No.8160149]

>>8160124


That would be Shattered Soldier > III > neo contra > Hard Corps > 4 > arcade

[Anonymous No.8160398]

>>8159124
I played both games extensively back in the day. Hard Corps is much tighter, faster paced, and ultimately the superior Contra game in every which way.

[Anonymous No.8160413]

>>8159124
this motherfucker filtered me as a child and still filters me as a man-child. Farthest i can get is that jungle level.

[Anonymous No.8160647]

>>8160413
Work on your weapon changing. It's the hardest thing to get used to in this game since it's so convoluted. After that all it takes is to know when to slide.

[Anonymous No.8162102]

>>8159124
>>8160112
>>8160413
I've found myself liking this game a lot more lately. Personally I still think Contra 3 is a more challenging and well designed game, but Hard Corps is still massive fun. It could use a bit more level/boss design polish and some better balancing on the characters and weapons, but that doesn't stop it from being an experience full of manic fun and excitement.

I've also grown to really love the aesthetic in this game as well. Its dissonant mix of quirky humor and bio/cyberpunk menace lends it a uniquely engrossing and vibrant atmosphere quite unlike the rest of the franchise. The character designs were handled by anime/manga artist Yasuomi Umetsu, and the music was created by a dream team featuring Michiru Yamane (Castlevania) and Akira Yamaoka (Silent Hill) among other high profile video game musicians.

One of the games big gimmicks is that it has a number of player characters and a few branching paths for stages

[Anonymous No.8162282]

>>8160146
nah it's actually good

[Anonymous No.8162289]

This game in one hit kill version is just retarded and artificial difficulty

[Anonymous No.8162307]

>>8162289
that's not what artificial difficulty means

[Anonymous No.8162471]

>>8162289
Nah it's fair.
I've been practicing Hard Corps for a week now and I can beat it with a couple deaths, but I want to do a no death run. That's tricky but doable

[Anonymous No.8162513]

>>8162289
Trial and error, yes. Artificial difficulty, no. It can be reliably 1cc.

[Anonymous No.8162740]

Funny how the Japan version is significantly easier, I thought japs were le hardcore gaming tryhards??

>The Japanese version, titled Contra: The Hard Corps, was made significantly easier than its North American counterpart due to the addition of a life gauge that allows the player to take three hits from an enemy before losing a life. The Japanese version also features unlimited continues, in contrast with the American version, which only allows the player to continue five times.

[Anonymous No.8162757]

>>8162289
It's very hard but fair. You can download a rom hack that puts in the japanese health bar.

>>8160112
How is a 15 second cutscene worse than a complete gameplay change?

[Anonymous No.8162763]

>>8160398
this
i like all the different characters and branching paths too

[Anonymous No.8162771]

>>8162307
"artificial difficulty" means: boo hoo, I am mad, this game cheats :'((((((

so his usage is correct

[Anonymous No.8162772]

>>8160413
its not an easy game by any stretch
you could try the JP version instead. same game, but you have 3 hit points per life. between that and giving yourself extra lives you should be able to make it through with a little effort

like all contra games it becomes much easier through repetition

[Anonymous No.8162775]

>>8162740
>Funny how the Japan version is significantly easier, I thought japs were le hardcore gaming tryhards??
its less that, and more "sega of america fears the rental market"
same shit that happened to SoR3

[Anonymous No.8162776]

>>8162775
>Blockbuster making devs improve their games
uhh based.
but
Japs didn't rent games?

[Anonymous No.8162783]

>>8162776
>Japs didn't rent games?
no
there were some similar services, like how the famicom disk system had terminals in stores that you could go to to overwrite old games you didnt play anymore with new ones
but that was really more of a reaction to the late 80s chip shortage than anything else

[Anonymous No.8162802]

>>8159124
>disappointed
Having played both I was fucking thrilled by the Mega Drive Contra. So much better.

[Anonymous No.8162805]

>>8162740
Rental market was the reason, which does not exist to this day in Asian countries.

[Anonymous No.8162812]

>>8162289
I managed to NO MISS HC as a 12 yo, so can you, whiny cunt.

[Anonymous No.8162850]

>>8162812
post VHS proof

[Anonymous No.8162860]

>>8162850
Yeah right...

[Anonymous No.8162992]

I could never beat the first level so I always thought this game sucked, even as an adult me and a buddy attempted to beat it co-op and failed miserably. Cool characters and whatnot but way too hard.

[Anonymous No.8163502]

>>8162992
Same happened to me, then my friend showed me his 1cc replay how he beat it, and I did what he did and now it's fun as fuck, it has like 5 endings and multiple paths and each character is quite different to play. Once you memorize the enemy spawns, boss patterns and which weapons to use the game opens up and is doable...but before that you'll just die ten times a level and call it buckshot lol

[Anonymous No.8163525]

>playing a console Contra when you could be playing the vastly superior Sunset Riders

I pity you sad faggots.

[Anonymous No.8163552]

>>8163525
Played it, it's aight, I prefer hard corps or shattered soldier easily

[Anonymous No.8163561]

>>8162471
>>8162513
Thread needs more Sheena pics asap

[Anonymous No.8163585]

>>8163525
Nah, especially not the console ports.

[Anonymous No.8163595]

>>8163585
Thankfully we have MAME in current year which runs the game flawlessly.

[Anonymous No.8163604]

>>8163552
>contra shattered soldier
I'm considering S ranking it one day, but the thought makes me shit my pants...

[Anonymous No.8163623]

[Anonymous No.8163641]

>>8163623
Based

[Anonymous No.8163657]

>>8163623
*SNORT*

[Anonymous No.8163694]

>>8163595
>which runs the game flawlessly.
now, couple years ago it had a shitty bug on the slopes

[Anonymous No.8163734]

>>8163694
But today is now, not then.

[Anonymous No.8163842]

>>8159124
>sega system kids were disappointed to get a boss rush contra instead of the proper run 'n gun SNES contra

The developers for Hardcorps were trying to outdo Treasure's GunStar Heroes with the over the top bosses. I think HardCorps is a better game of the two.

[Anonymous No.8163891]

>euros got bitchin mech/androids modelled after Patlabor
>fang becomes some super cyborg wolf in european HC
>americans and japan get some sweaty muscle heads

Truly a massive dub for PAL regions yet again

[Anonymous No.8163993]

>>8163623
made a (You) version.

[Anonymous No.8164074]

>>8163891
Hope you're not serious. Even back then it was lame.

[Anonymous No.8164082]

>>8163891
>yuros too gay for sheena
shocking

[Anonymous No.8164230]

>>8164082
I'd rather die a yuropoor than a burgermutt zogbot

[Anonymous No.8164732]

>>8163734
the least I expect for a 30 yo game

[Anonymous No.8164850]

The euro version is censored lol

[Anonymous No.8164857]

>>8162812
That's the thing. You were 12 and therefore, had much more time than an adult has. As a kid, I could beat much harder games because I had the time to do so. Now, when I play a really challenging game, it not only takes me longer to beat it, but takes more effort as I play the game over weeks (and sometimes have week long breaks) and forget certain patterns. However, I do agree that anyone could beat HC with enough effort.

[Anonymous No.8164909]

>>8164857

Back then there wasn't youtube to watch how a game is solved or internet guides to explain all the strats. We didn't have emulators with save state practice, slow down or rewind to help figure out strats and patterns. Even beating jrpgs was harder then, never mind something like contra hard corps or ghouls n ghosts, which would filter 99% of the kids at school.
The fact you as an adult with a bigger brain, and tons of resources get filtered by it now is sad.
It doesn't take hundreds of hours of free time anyway if you play smart. I'm not the guy who beat it as a kid, like most I got filtered. But I put 12 hours into it this month and beat it without using a continue or life cheats, and am trying a no death run currently.

[Anonymous No.8165969]

>>8164909
>The fact you as an adult with a bigger brain, and tons of resources get filtered by it now is sad.
You are just making assumptions. I don't play emulated games, nor do I use rewind features or watch Youtube videos (because that would destroy the experience). I've never even played Hard Corps, either. I beat Super Ghouls 'n' Ghosts years later and oh boy, that last level was ridiculous (in timed conditions). However, I really couldn't sustain that effort again to beat, because it is ingrained in my head.

>It doesn't take hundreds of hours of free time anyway if you play smart.
No, did I say it took hundreds of hours? Every game is beatable. However, the argument that "I beat that game when I was 12, why shouldn't you" is null and void. I've beaten some tough games that most people would've dropped at that age.

>Even beating jrpgs was harder then
How so? JRPG's have mostly always been incredibly easy. The only problem you could've had back in the old day was getting lost and not knowing where to go.

[Anonymous No.8165994]

>>8165969
>I don't learn from others
>I don't use practice tools
>and I don't have time
Time is your issue because you don't care to learn from others or use any practice tools to cut time requirements down. But a 12 yr old kid beating and no-missing Contra HC back when it came out, without the resources we have now, is actually more impressive than someone doing it today

>>8162289
>This game in one hit kill version is just retarded and artificial difficulty
cope

[Anonymous No.8166049]

>>8164857
Takes me less than an hour to get good at any new game of any genre. You're just bad at video games.

[Anonymous No.8166601]

>>8159124
Hard Corps is the greatest run 'n gun of all time and the only one that can even compete with it is Alien Soldier.

[Anonymous No.8166605]

>>8162740
There's far more instances of games being made harder for the western market than the other way around.

[Anonymous No.8166608]

>>8166601
Alien Soldier is sick

[Anonymous No.8166613]

>>8162783
Not comparable to a rental since you were essentially buying a new game it was just a cheaper alternative for doing so.

[Anonymous No.8166614]

>>8166605
maybe for consoles during the rental era, but for arcade games it's usually (not always) that Japs had the harder versions

[Anonymous No.8168513]

>>8165994
Do you seriously watch Youtube videos for strategies? If you do, that is the very opposite of based.

[Anonymous No.8168523]

>>8168513
Yeah learning and getting good are fun, and based

[Anonymous No.8169186]

Back in the day I used this book to beat Hard Corps on a rental. Was definitely one of the top strategy books of the time period.