/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.8153725]

is it true that the Dreamcast can read burned disc without modding?

[Anonymous No.8153726]

Yes. But you'll kill your laser

[Anonymous No.8153737]

>>8153725
Yes, you just need a loader disc.

[Anonymous No.8153739]

>>8153725
Why would you still play on the console when Redream is literally perfect?

[Anonymous No.8153741]

>>8153737
what is a loader disc?
>>8153726
how will it kill the laser?

[Anonymous No.8153742]

>>8153739
I hate you

[Anonymous No.8153760]

>>8153739
Nostalgia

[Anonymous No.8153769]

>>8153760
I also have nostalgia, but for the games, not the shitty hardware you had to play them on.

[Anonymous No.8153792]

>>8153726
that is just a myth, nothing will happen to your laser and even if it did replacing the laser only takes 10 minuted

[Anonymous No.8153807]

>>8153737
Also not true. I burnt a load of ISOs back in the day and they worked just fine.

[Anonymous No.8153810]

Dreamcast is the only retro system I had that actually died on me, and I've owned over a dozen different consoles.

I would advise against buying one and just emulate. The controller sucks dick too.

[Anonymous No.8153815]

>>8153739
Because emulation doesn't have SOVL.

[Anonymous No.8153823]

>>8153810
Whatever happened, it was likely an easy fix. Maybe you should learn to solder and stop being such a fucking pussy

[Anonymous No.8153847]

>noooooooo please buy my dreamcast on ebay i need to have money to eat this week
Lol at all the seething resellerfags ITT. Get a job.

[Anonymous No.8153849]

>>8153847
Emulatorfags are the vegans of retro gaming circles.

[Anonymous No.8153864]

>>8153847
who the fuck said anything about re-selling resident schizo? I just wanted to burn a copy of Soul Calibur and MvC2 to play

[Anonymous No.8153895]

>>8153849
For fuck sake what is that comparison and how did it make sense to you. Boomer humor is shit. Spending money on shit that is gonna stop working in your life time when you could have spent significantly less for something that works better than the original is beyond demented. Get bent.

[Anonymous No.8153910]

>>8153895
It's hilarious you think it's only boomers
Tick tock emulatorfag

[Anonymous No.8153914]

>>8153849
Stay mad I get the same experience as you, but for free. The salty tears are delicious. You will never jew me with your second-hand shit.

[Anonymous No.8153916]

>>8153914
>Free
How much was your computer

[Anonymous No.8153917]

>>8153810
The dreamcast discdrive is infamous for being prone to failure. no idea what the deal is, but ive been through 3 of the fuckers and im pretty careful with them
>>8153792
not him, and not sure if its a myth or not since i never played burned games, but buying disc drives off ebay isnt exactly a good compromise. especially for ones that arent OEM, and just break after a month

[Anonymous No.8153919]

>>8153895
>>8153914
Case in point.

[Anonymous No.8153923]

>>8153815
>emulation doesn't have SOVL
???

[Anonymous No.8153926]

>>8153864
for real. wtf is he even talking about

[Anonymous No.8153931]

>>8153926
they're the vegans of retro. They guy was right on the money.

[Anonymous No.8153932]

>>8153810
I agree with everything, except for the controller. The controller is fucking awesome.

[Anonymous No.8153971]

>>8153923
cringe

[Anonymous No.8153985]

>>8153932
It was a step down from this in basically every aspect.

[Anonymous No.8153995]

>>8153725
0 or 1 in circle or 2 with the date specified

[Anonymous No.8154015]

>>8153725

[Anonymous No.8154071]

>>8153985
Whatever, retardo.

[Anonymous No.8154076]

The vmu was based af tho

[Anonymous No.8154082]

>>8153725
Just get a gdemu theyre cheap and a lot more convenient

[Anonymous No.8154084]

>>8154082
This.

[Anonymous No.8154103]

>>8154076
I fucking love playing Pinta's Quest on it.

[Anonymous No.8154118]

>>8153726
If you use shit CDs, yes, but this is true of any disc-based system.

[Anonymous No.8154397]

>>8153725
Certain models. I think those manufactured before September 2000. In 2000, my laser died after a year and I never played burned games back then.

[Anonymous No.8154427]

>>8153932
The Dreamcast's d-pad is kinda ass, though. Also, it would've been better if it had six face buttons instead of four.

[Anonymous No.8154443]

>>8154082
How is this one? https://www.ebay.com/itm/304052614238

[Anonymous No.8154447]

>>8153985
b-b-but dreamcast pad had a stupid tamagotchi gimmick that makes it way better!!!

[Anonymous No.8154462]

>>8154443
yeah should be good get all your roms from the tosecdus on archive.org theyre correctly packaged for gdmenu so they load fast and show artwork etc

[Anonymous No.8154475]

>>8154462
Thanks! Are there any issues with this clone type device, like it will shit the bed after a month or overheat the unit?

[Anonymous No.8154482]

>>8154475
It does cause some heat issues with the power supply due to a power rail no longer being used but theres a mod to fix that watch voultars install tutorial on youtube he shows how to fix it. I think theres also some games that have issues with the gdemu but its not many

[Anonymous No.8154596]

>>8153726
If u use shit disc images yea you will. Just don’t use any images ripped from the early 2000s and you’ll be fine.

[Anonymous No.8154607]

>>8154475
I've had mine for a month or two and have been playing a lot of Skies of Arcadia, among some other stuff. I haven't noticed any issue whatsoever and I bought the same as
>>8154443
this anon posted. Everything works fine, I just need to get a larger microSD so I'm not shuffling games out so often, I only had an 8gig on hand and have been too lazy to replace it.

[Anonymous No.8154618]

>>8153725
Almost every Dreamcast can. The only ones that can't were the very last ones made before the hardware was discontinued.

Apparently Sega just thought a gigabyte-sized disc is all the copy protection that would be required (not the most unreasonable thinking but too naive).

[Anonymous No.8154625]

anyone have any idea why the music stops after one loop in the sonic adventure i burned?

[Anonymous No.8154626]

>>8153726
this. the dreamcast laser is shit.
my friend broke mine because he thought it could play dvds

[Anonymous No.8154951]

>>8153726
broscience

>>8153725
yes, although it's not as simple as any burned disc being good. It's just that all the work-arounds are done by the guys that make the isos and they Just Werk so you never have to worry. Think of it the same way as pirated Windows isos that have the activation bullshit already taken care of for you so you never even see it.

[Anonymous No.8154961]

>>8153932
It's not a bad controller, but it's nothing special either. It's an objective downgrade compared to the Saturn 3D pad, particularly considering all the games it had that would've benefited from a better D-pad and six face buttons.

[Anonymous No.8155080]

>>8154961
Its fucking awful for fighting games. The dpad is not precise at all and you have to be very careful with hadoukens or else you'll input an up motion.

[Anonymous No.8155126]

>>8153739
>flycast
ftfy

Can Redream emulate 2 player Typing of the Dead? Damn no, it can't. Not to mention the shitty DSP emulation and paypig high resolution. I'm glad it makes you happy, though.

[Anonymous No.8155132]

>>8155080
Tfw bought an arcade stick for the first time for dc and couldn't pull any moves the dc pad wasn't that bad at all

[Anonymous No.8155163]

>>8155132
I played fighting games on that shit and I was able to do all the moves but it hurt after a while

[Anonymous No.8155263]

>>8153737
Only if they aren't self booting. There are tutorials out there to make self booting images.

[Anonymous No.8155301]

>>8154625
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LA3_x7ePpSo
One person with a legit US copy complained about this in a reply too. I was thinking it might be an issue with the rip. All the sounds on your copy are mono right? If so it's likely from the original rip by KALISTO. To be honest anyone who is serious about pirating on a Dreamcast should have an ODE at this point. Downsampling games made it work at the time. I'd only recommend this shit to people who are very casual DC players or people who would be willing to buy games that don't normally fit on a CD-R.

>>8154951
>broscience
Depends on what you're playing on it. Fire up the ECHELON release of Skies Of Arcadia and listen to your DC wheeze. Now imagine what happens when you play that game for extended periods of time. Those groups (especially KALISTO/ECHELON, they didn't have much competition) deserve props for what they managed to pull off at the time. If you're serious about this you should probably look for a better solution though.

[Anonymous No.8155346]

>>8154618
cringe rumor regurgitator (also naive yourself)

people love to pretend the dreamcast has no copy protection completely ignoring all the work already done behind the scenes to pretty much rebuild the disc as a working MIL-CD exploit

this is also why the newer models are completely fucked like this guy said >>8154397
because the only thing they did on those was remove the ability to boot a MIL-CD

can't wait for you to say Sony also didn't know what they were doing and PS2 discs had no copy protection either since you can just burn DVDs with ESR.

[Anonymous No.8155381]

>>8155346
The memory card menu update function on PS2 is a MIL-CD level fuck up though.

[Anonymous No.8155589]

>>8155346
You can't burn ps2 discs and it's a total pain in the ass to hack. What is this? The ps2 is literally so hard I don't bother

[Anonymous No.8155616]

>>8155589
lolwat, yes you can burn ps2 isos to dvd-r and it's easy as fuck to install fmcb to a ps2 mem card.

[Anonymous No.8155617]

>>8155589
You can burn ESR patched ones. You just need FreeMCBoot to launch them. There are other options but that's the easy one any retard could figure out. If you don't want to figure out how to "hack" it you can just buy a memory card that already has it on it and you're done. I got one for $5 recently.

[Anonymous No.8155619]

>>8155616
>>8155617
Why can't it be easier

[Anonymous No.8155624]

>>8155619
Because you're a fucking moron and stupid people don't deserve nice things.

[Anonymous No.8155640]

>>8155619
you can load it to a fucking USB thumbstick you stupid faggot, it literally does not get any more braindead simple

[Anonymous No.8155660]

>>8155624
Everytime I ask how to hack a ps2 I get a hundred different answers
>>8155640
Oh look here's another way
Which one am.i supposed to.do

[Anonymous No.8155691]

>>8155660
>Everytime I ask how to hack a ps2 I get a hundred different answers
Because the PS2 was a successful console with a long lifespan and multiple hardware and firmware revisions. It also has a lot of I/O options so there's more than one way to get the job done. If you want it to be simple here's the last advice you will ever need. Burn this to a DVD. https://github.com/CTurt/FreeDVDBoot If it boots you're done. Install FreeMCBoot to a memory card and burn ESR patched games. If it doesn't boot buy a memory card with FreeMCBoot already on it and do the same thing, burn ESR patched games.

[Anonymous No.8155729]

>thread about dreamcast turned emulator war turned homebrew schizo shouting

[Anonymous No.8155732]

>>8155729
If it shut up the emulator war I'm all for it. I gave my opinions on the DC stuff already but didn't get replies so whatever.

[Anonymous No.8155738]

Screeching about "why aren't you just using emulation?" in a thread about original hardware should get you banned on this board. They're the most useless repetitive replies. I'd rather talk to the PS2 brainlet than these clowns.

[Anonymous No.8155804]

>>8153810
>emulate
>can't emulate the VMU
Soulless.

[Anonymous No.8155825]

>>8155804
wrong again, anti-emu shill.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ut9d1JtgFvk

[Anonymous No.8155829]

>why can't it be easier
Do zoomers really?

[Anonymous No.8155841]

>>8153741
they probably mean boot disc

you put the boot disc into the dreamcast, it'll load up a gui of some sort, then you open the lid of the dreamcast without shutting off the system, but in your burnt game and shut the lid and it will load the game.

most releases should be "self-boot" by now though as a lot were back in in the early 2000s

picrel is a gui of a bootdisc i used wayback, the reindeer spins around on every axis. looks like a screensaver- very cool.

[Anonymous No.8155868]

>>8155825
>complaining about "anti emu shills" in a thread about original hardware
If anyone is shilling here it's you. I'm still not going to use Flycast hahaha. I will never use Flycast. How does that make you feel? It makes me feel great.

[Anonymous No.8155870]

>>8155617
You don't even need FMCB any more, FreeDVDBoot discs are self-booting. Although the exploit currently only works for slims.

[Anonymous No.8155872]

>>8155870
It works for others too but I purposely didn't mention it to him because he's too dumb to make up his mind about what to use on his own. He'd just get further confused.

[Anonymous No.8155884]

>>8155868
makes me feel like in a month you'll be complaining how shit dreamcast emulation is

[Anonymous No.8155919]

>>8155884
I don't care if it's shit or good. I won't use it.

[Anonymous No.8155925]

>>8155868
Enjoy your eventual dead hardware and your frustration that you have to continually maintain old-ass hardware that time is constantly fucking over.
I don't get people who fuck around with actual hardware when emulation exists. Been gaming since the goddamn 70s and I'm not going to hunt down some pile of trash hardware to get working when I can load up a fucking emulator and just goddamn play.

[Anonymous No.8155936]

>>8155925
If you maintain your hardware it won't die most of the time. I like buying fucked up shit just to try to revive it. If I get a good price on something in good condition I'll buy that instead. It's fine that emulation exists and I even use it but people like you trying to shove it down my throat like it's a silver bullet to every problem I've ever had annoy me. You make me hate something I otherwise enjoy by way of reverse psychology. I had a shitty emulation experience this morning and I'm still pretty salty about it. Even if there's no hardware to let you down the software still can so there's no point in pretending like it's "perfect." Nothing is. I can nitpick fucking anything so get down from your high horse and stop being a dumb faggot.

[Anonymous No.8155950]

>>8153739
because im autistic, no question about it, i wasnt even born when the dc launched

[Anonymous No.8156029]

>>8155381
it's really not, because it didn't materialize until seven or eight years after ps2 was launched, and only after finding the magic-gate-encryption-keys in some ps3-devkit or whatever.
DC's mil-cd bypass was known and used almost from day one

[Anonymous No.8156149]

>>8153739
>Redream is literally perfect?
hahaha, it doesn't even come close to even being the best dreamcast emulator

[Anonymous No.8156154]

>>8155346
The ESR thing was an exploit designed to take advantage of updating the DVD drive's firmware.

[Anonymous No.8156308]

>>8155589
bruh i made a mcboot memory card easily and i have a pile of ps2 .elf files and i made sure they are all the rare af games that cost 100s now lol

[Anonymous No.8156312]

>>8155640
you can even run games via usb stick,but due to the 1.0 ports the streaming speed was slow af during cutscenes and load times,still impressive though

confirmed with resi 4 and shadow hearts 2

[Anonymous No.8156504]

>>8155804
>tfw you emulate VMU games on DC because you're too lazy to replace the battery
It's nice to play a bigger screen, but I wish the vmu explorer tool had a theme besides love hina.

[Anonymous No.8156543]

>>8155925
>I've been LARPing on 4channel since the late 10s
Woah

[Anonymous No.8156830]

>>8156154
You're getting ESR and FMCB mixed up. FMCB takes advantage of an official mechanism for updating the OSD.
ESR doesn't do anything to the drive firmware - the drive controller already allows the console to read DVD videos, which is what ESR-patched discs technically are.

[Anonymous No.8157859]

>>8155841
oh god I forgot about that screen. Haven't seen it since I burned propeller arena aviation battle championship

[Anonymous No.8159095]

>>8153725
as long as you dont have a model 2 you can

>>8153726
>>8154118
>>8154596
WRONG

>>8154625
what burning program did you use? Alcohol 120 or discjuggler works best for Dreamcast images since programs like ImgBurn doesnt work so well with the Redbook tracks on a .CDI

[Anonymous No.8159660]

>>8153725
>burn a fuckton of games like power stone 2 and dynamite cop

>the only one that doesnt work is virtual on orotario tangram

Im mad, that's the one I wanted to play the most

[Anonymous No.8159671]

>>8159660
It's pretty hard to play with a normal controller in my opinion

[Anonymous No.8159781]

>>8153725
Which "the Dreamcast" is The the Dreamcast?

[Anonymous No.8159896]

>>8159671
What about via emulation using xbox controller? Last I heard the 360 virtual on controlled just about as closely as that meme controller with the 2 sticks using the 360 controller

[Anonymous No.8161089]

>>8159896
Yeah twin analog sticks works well but obviously you can’t use that on a real Dreamcast

[Anonymous No.8161121]

>>8155841
We used this same exact boot disc in my native country; an ass backwards Latin American shit hole.

[Anonymous No.8161276]

>>8153725
Yes, but not all vendors. Price is irellevant, I had this cheap 100 cd spindle thing and it worked. Forgot what it was, just try it out. Played ~200 hours with burned disks, never had any issues. Boot CD is not needed, anons stating this are retarded

[Anonymous No.8161982]

dreamcast? more like dreamcast deez nuts! Goteeem!

[Anonymous No.8162327]

>>8161982
i'll dreamcast you into a volcano

[Anonymous No.8164616]

bump

[Anonymous No.8164618]

>>8161276
is this supposed to be a coherent english sentence, or do you need to take your meds?

[Anonymous No.8164627]

>>8153725
I can't fucking burn Maken X, every CDI image I've found is over 800MB and DiscJuggler won't let me burn it. What am I doing wrong?

[Anonymous No.8164669]

>>8164627
Maybe it werks with them overburn cds

[Anonymous No.8164682]

>>8164627
>he doesn't know

[Anonymous No.8164697]

>>8164682
Don't know what? Because Google hasn't told me jack shit.

[Anonymous No.8165724]

>>8164627
>What am I doing wrong?
not using GDIs with gdemu.