EVERY DAY IS LEG DAY

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EVERY DAY IS LEG DAY Anonymous Mon Sep 13 21:18:52 2021 No.8135326 [Reply] [Original]

DOOM THREAD / RETRO FPS THREAD - Last thread: >>8127028

DOOM/II/ULTIMATE/FINAL/64/CHEX/QUAKE/DUKE/HERETIC/HEXEN/ETC
Gameplay, WADs/Maps/Mods, Source Ports
All other 90s FPS welcome
~ Let's post like gentlemen ~

FAQ/PASTEBIN
http://pastebin.com/hzDnLpct
OP PASTE
http://pastebin.com/TWNE3nZZ

SO YOU WANT TO PLAY SOME FUCKING DOOM
(or Quake, Duke, Marathon, Thief, Deus Ex)
https://imgur.com/a/wWS8zXz

Same thing, in video format:
https://youtu.be/ietb4JwaaXA
https://youtu.be/CGj4gXyCzg0

IWADs and more (>6 GB): https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B47V8l2eVZKxRU82S3JkZkdBRXM
PortaDOOM: https://github.com/Kroc/PortaDOOM/releases
Quake Trilogy (2020-11): https://pastebin.com/Ucb11XhU
Downloads for various /vr/ shooters. (Includes Doom, Quake, Douk, Blood, and more)
https://mega.nz/#F!QXIk1bjB!NHRWGIfjcc77PyGgRlga4Q
https://mega.nz/#F!GtEQTISJ!CCJGyPEEEsZasc1PMXicUA
More /vr/ shooters
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1ppJLNvQEPfP4FsOCQBak1TMvPUIswCac
Half-Life WON version
https://pastebin.com/4Hva72v7
Doom Shovelware
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1Xy-YDWytlEa2CS9rit-PUgcieh4MrGzR
Fileplanet archives
https://www.quaddicted.com/files/mirrors/ftp.planetquake.com/
Doom RPG series
https://mega.nz/#!Y7AjEawA!Ta2RQuOC235v0wQoLtVR7HJoN7bsiawkujSlq8A1Da4
4CHAN DOSPACK + Win98 games (pre-configured):
https://mega.nz/folder/CldGAahb#yn_8LkRHraywPgKJMp5pqA

== INFO/LINKS ==
OFFICIAL DOOM WIKI
http://doomwiki.org/

WHERE TO FIND WADS
Vanilla/Boom: https://www.doomworld.com/forum/4-wads-mods/
ZDoom: http://forum.zdoom.org/viewforum.php?f=19
/idgames: https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/

TUTORIALS/UTILITIES
https://pastebin.com/7vKYWYp0

RESOURCES
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewforum.php?f=37

== /VR/DOOM COMMUNITY ==

THREAD ARCHIVES
https://desuarchive.org/vr/search/text/%22doom%20thread%22/type/op/

MAKING NEW THREADS PROPERLY
https://pastebin.com/8mDnrsrB

IMAGE DATABASE
http://vrdoom.booru.org/?page=post&s=list

OUR WADS
https://pastebin.com/5sKRiJzS

Anonymous Mon Sep 13 21:19:14 2021 No.8135329
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=== CURRENT RELEASE ===
Hard Fast Faggot Maps
Version 4.0 https://rentry.org/6hwzi
https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/Ports/megawads/hardfunv4

=== CURRENT PROJECTS ===
VIOLENT RUMBLE
Project Mega folder: https://mega.nz/folder/LVlWVK5D#H5iqeD61bSItMIVeGqymTQ
Latest update: >>8112368
Please use spawnflag 16 for your level exit triggers

/vr/ HALLOWEEN PROJECT
Info here >>8091348

VRSKINS 4.0
Taking submissions

=== NEWS ===
[9-13] GOG has added a bunch of Star Trek games to it's catalog
https://www.gog.com/partner/startrek

[9-12] Temporal Tantrum (Test Version 3) is now out
https://youtu.be/VXxCe8zvJXY

[9-09] Serious Sam classic games get the (unofficial) ray tracing treatment
https://github.com/sultim-t/Serious-Engine-RT/releases

[9-09] Doomuniverse opens, a new forum for doom related things
https://doomuniverse.com/

[9-07] Rainbow Six mod that combines all classic R6 games into one
https://www.moddb.com/mods/rainbow-six-black-ops-20/downloads/rainbow-six-black-ops-20-release

[9-05] Quakespasm 0.94 out, fully supporting DotM
http://quakespasm.sourceforge.net/Quakespasm.html#s5

[9-05] Dread demo released
https://youtu.be/ZxhO1ZCOZ-M

[9-04] Alkaline Jam released
https://www.celephais.net/board/view_thread.php?id=62095

[9-03] Hedon 2 has been released as an update to the original for those who have it on Steam
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1072150/Hedon_Bloodrite/

[9-02] Dege is restoring the ATI TruForm tesselation renderer for DgVoodoo2
https://www.vogons.org/viewtopic.php?f=59&t=83037

[9-02] DBP39: Carnage Oasis is out
https://doomer.boards.net/thread/2271/carnage-oasis

[9-02] vkquake 1.11.0 released
https://github.com/Novum/vkQuake/releases/tag/1.11.0

=== PREVIOUS ===
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-vrTgPGmlLwdO5VHHCJMxmRD05E6XlNmqHIN8aykRG0

TO SUBMIT NEWS, REPLY TO THIS POST

Anonymous Mon Sep 13 21:20:36 2021 No.8135330
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Reposting /vr/ Halloween info

---- /VR/ HALLOWEEN PROJECT DETAILS & ANCHOR POST ----

>RULES CHANGES
-Maps any sizes are allowed. (4000 units no longer required)
-Slaughter maps allowed (''Very Hard'' Category only)

>MAP LIST SHEET (REPLY THIS POST TO CLAIM YOUR MAP, note: remove the space)
docs.google.com/
spreadsheets/d/1kbnUMRqY6FsUNKRmzpt-QHbXBSXZO44hkubhj6U-qYA/edit#gid=0

>Halloween Resources V2 (CUSTOM MONSTERS IMPLEMENTED)
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1wzcet6Q_N-xLPrGnx9NaC4_9sUvx60fa/view?usp=sharing

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 13 21:44:56 2021 No.8135381 What wads you guys playin? i was thinking about trying rowdy rudy.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 13 21:49:31 2021 No.8135389 >>8135381 Doom 64 for Doom II. lots of fun, scratches that 64 itch but livens it up with the full monster roster and more typical Doom music

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 13 21:53:02 2021 No.8135393 >>8135389 i was playing doom 64 the other day and forgot about the jump from map 24 to 28. so i map maped to level 25 and got blown out by the cyber demon like 15 times before i beat the level lmao. the level starts with it firing at you

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Anonymous Mon Sep 13 21:59:23 2021 No.8135404
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>>8135381
Just finished all the maps in Temporal Tantrum (minus the secret map). Pretty good wad.
Found a bug in the last Egypt map where an Imp spawns on top of a Diabolist inside a sarcophagus. I think that map could do with a few less Archiviles, it was kind of a chore to play through even if it looked really nice.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 13 21:59:53 2021 No.8135405 >>8135402 >ribbiks duke wads ribbiks makes a duke 3d mapset when?

Anonymous Mon Sep 13 22:03:47 2021 No.8135415

>>8135404
i've never heard of temporal tantrum. i'll have to add it to my things to eventually play wad list. where did the horns on the archvilles come from?
i remember brutal doom did that with its archvilles and another mod i think did it too but idr what it was called.

Anonymous Mon Sep 13 22:13:46 2021 No.8135432
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>>8135404
Also, I thought it was a weird choice to replace the Spider Mastermind since it was used so sparingly. The only one I saw in the wad was eaten by a bunch of angry specters below it, which was pretty amusing.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 13 22:15:18 2021 No.8135437 Hey guys whats your favorite gun in HL1? I like the shotgun and the revolver

Anonymous Mon Sep 13 22:17:56 2021 No.8135441

i'm DONE sitting on my ass thinking about shit i could be making! i'm gonna make a sick ass fucking quake map where ranger breaks out from a grimy dark underground prison/mine shaft thats being used to extract resources to make Shub-Niggurath's forces even powerful.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 13 22:30:32 2021 No.8135472 >>8135437 Tau gun + lamps turns me on

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 13 22:33:35 2021 No.8135489 I haven't played Doom in awhile but it amazes me that these games are still going strong to this day thanks to what those guys did all those years ago. If only the industry stayed that based.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 13 22:48:21 2021 No.8135527 File: 679 KB, 1920x1080, doom62.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8135432 Finished the secret map. Glorious work. Are you guys planning on making any more maps, or are you all on the bugfixing stage now?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 13 22:54:52 2021 No.8135548 >>8135527 Bartekmil and Chopblock are still working on their maps, and brxyz is working on a second. So there's still at the very least a few maps to be added before calling it a wrap. Thanks for playing and letting us know what you thought

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 13 23:02:59 2021 No.8135571 >>8135326 Cinematic scripted garbage that ruined gaming. Compare the level design of previous fps like Unreal, Duke, Quake, Powerslave, Dark Forces II and you will see it's garbage. Old /vr/ hated it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 13 23:03:28 2021 No.8135575 >>8135571 Lmao Is this a bot or something?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 13 23:12:55 2021 No.8135602 File: 151 KB, 1280x720, 32409j.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] So is episode 5 of Duke3D worth playing even though it's so new? It feels like a proper episode?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 13 23:22:52 2021 No.8135629 >>8135575 Every time he posts the "new threads that will be Half-Life themed" count increments by 1. We're at 4 right now.

Anonymous Mon Sep 13 23:25:09 2021 No.8135638

are there any good places for me to upload a map pack I've recently finished to share publicly?

I was planning to dump it on the Id ftp but after reading through all the hoops to jump through and the rules, that I guess my wad breaks (modified official maps etc), it's not the right place.

So, any good alternatives other than making a mega link to share and spam on random boards like here?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 13 23:26:19 2021 No.8135643 >>8135602 Yes, it's good with a lot of that classic Build Engine charm but you should play it Build GDX or Raze.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 13 23:43:18 2021 No.8135684 >>8135330 Map 22 ready to be playtested https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ZElHXUEHnbnLbtYnIwyABGTI--ZwH6By/view?usp=sharing

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 13 23:50:24 2021 No.8135710 >>8135489 Carmack's philosophy about the stuff was a blessing, but it was never the most popular He was even getting pushback on open sourcing by other id guys during development IIRC

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 13 23:56:24 2021 No.8135729 >>8135638 mod db could work. maps of chaos is on mod db

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 13 23:56:36 2021 No.8135730 Holy shit man E1M9 with Hideous Destructor is such a grind The final timer says 25 minutes but I'm sure I spent like 2 hours there holy shit This mod is really fun lol

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 14 00:02:55 2021 No.8135748 >>8135729 Thanks. I'll check it out.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 14 00:11:44 2021 No.8135776 >>8135437 For mp? The bugs you throw definitely, for sp probably that blue energy gun

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 14 00:13:06 2021 No.8135782 >>8135602 I like it more than both ep4 and ep3 personally. And some levels like that Egypt level, people would be sucking its dick hard if it was an EP1 level But still pirate it and form your own opinion

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 14 00:15:37 2021 No.8135791 any body know how to put a frame rate cap on dsda doom like gz doom has ? with out using vsync? i dont wanna blow out my pc cause i checked the frames and its like 600 fps or more

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 14 00:45:53 2021 No.8135873 >>8135791 There is "Render limit per tic" on the first page of general options, it limits the framerate in multiples of 35. So, if you want 70 fps, then you set that option to 2.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 14 00:47:03 2021 No.8135878 >>8135326 Explain how this game is as good as old school fps and immersive sims. Explain how linear cinematic scripted gameplay is a good thing. Explain how it didn't ruin gaming

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 14 00:59:15 2021 No.8135920 >>8135878 >xplain how it didn't ruin gaming it ruined your childhood, not gaming

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 14 00:59:38 2021 No.8135921 File: 64 KB, 620x389, malice01.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Bit of a long shot but does anyone have a Malice fgd for Trenchbroom?

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>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 14 01:11:53 2021 No.8135969 >>8135527 >>8135548 Washing Machine Enthusiasts here - I plan to keep on mapping as well, at least until all episodes have four maps each. Currently only one episode does.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 14 01:12:27 2021 No.8135972 Can anyone recommend some bigass maps with megastructure vibes? I'm pretty new to custom Doom wads, and playing Sunlust and Sunder gave me a taste of that and now I want more.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 14 01:14:00 2021 No.8135978 >>8135972 Miasma is what you're looking for

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 14 01:17:18 2021 No.8135987 >>8135972 Foursite

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 14 01:17:29 2021 No.8135989 >>8135873 using one of the older builds of it, it doesn't have this option. i'll have to probably update it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 14 01:24:52 2021 No.8136006 >>8135405 Would Duke's enemy AI even lend itself to puzzle combat?

Anonymous Tue Sep 14 01:47:22 2021 No.8136082

did any of you anons know that the eternity engine allegedly runs at 35 fps? idk it felt like 60 fps or more. am i missing something here? what makes eternity run so smooth at 35 fps? but others stutter so much if set this low? brainlet when it comes to how these things work

>>8136006
i'm not sure thats a good question

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 14 01:56:19 2021 No.8136093 >>8135684 Wait, I just reread the anchor post. Are we not playtesting until October 14?

Anonymous Tue Sep 14 01:56:30 2021 No.8136094

>>8136082
>did any of you anons know that the eternity engine allegedly runs at 35 fps?
You mean like how Doom's game logic runs at 35 ticks a second? I don't know how Eternity works, but I'm presuming frames per second and ticks per second are decoupled from each other like in GZDoom.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 14 02:00:11 2021 No.8136104 >>8136094 i'm not sure how it works. the code to show the fps was v_ticker 3 and it said 35 fps.

Anonymous Tue Sep 14 02:04:13 2021 No.8136112
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>Scan
>Blood loss: 0.0 transfusion units
>Scan again
>Blood loss: 3.9 transfusion units
>Scan again
>Blood loss: 0.0 transfusion units
>Scan again
>Blood loss: 4.1 transfusion units

Which is it? What's it trying to tell me? How do I deal with this, hideous bros?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 14 02:06:22 2021 No.8136116 >>8136112 Get naked and don't fucking move while scanning.

Anonymous Tue Sep 14 02:07:55 2021 No.8136120
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Does anyone with modding knowledge know how I would go about ripping sound effects from HL1 ||or Black Mesa?|| I want to use them for a project, but I don't know shit about how the sound files are packaged.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 14 02:08:53 2021 No.8136121 >>8136120 Could just grab the ripped sounds from the sounds-resource instead. https://www.sounds-resource.com/pc_computer/halflifeexpansions/

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 14 02:10:26 2021 No.8136128 >>8136120 >C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Half-Life\valve\sound it's like you don't even know how to use a computer anon

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 14 02:15:53 2021 No.8136136 Where the FUCK is Quake Mjolnir? >>8136120 wtf you literally just go into the game's folder you retard

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 14 02:23:55 2021 No.8136154 >>8136136 >>8136128 >>8136121 Ah, well thanks, Anons. The link the first guy provided is very helpful. I was hoping that someone knew how to get the files out of a .vpk, since gfscape doesn't seem to be working, but I guess this isn't the place to ask.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 14 02:25:26 2021 No.8136162 >>8136154 If you're wanting to extract shit out of VPKs I'd recommend GCFScape, from Nem's tools.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 14 02:26:13 2021 No.8136165 >>8136154 Goldsource has the wavs themselves in the game folder, no unpacking needed

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 14 02:29:42 2021 No.8136171 Speaking of ripping sound effects from games and one of them being HL and Black Mesa did you know BM gauss gun uses the Doom door opening sound https://youtu.be/AFKB3c2mXsI?t=24 0:24

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 14 02:32:18 2021 No.8136178 Is it just me or is Malice all kinds of ass? >>8136112 Moving/wearing armor fucks up your scanner readings.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 14 02:34:52 2021 No.8136183 >>8135878 explain how you keep avoiding bans, alf

Anonymous Tue Sep 14 02:38:31 2021 No.8136189

Thinking of doing a Halloween map but I see only slots in the 20s are unclaimed and I'm not much good at slaughtermapping. Do any of these sound like good ideas for a map in the 20s instead? Project guidelines say it's meant to be very hard.
>E4M1 style resource starvation
>Lots and lots of hurtfloors with minimal radsuits
>D64-Hectic style traps
>E3M7-style radsuit maze but harder fights
>Platforming
>Everything perpetually moving (ice physics, conveyors, perpetual lifts)
>A puzzle level with silent teleporters - this would be a breather level difficulty-wise

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 14 02:44:25 2021 No.8136204 File: 277 KB, 621x640, 1629562068374.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8136165 >>8136162 Thanks anons. Got what I need now.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 14 02:53:43 2021 No.8136224 >>8135972 Eviternity map32

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 14 02:54:49 2021 No.8136227 >>8136082 IIRC, Eternity did for a long while only have capped framerate, but uncapped was added many years ago by now.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 14 03:03:02 2021 No.8136242 Hypothetically, can I make an FPS/RPG hybrid in DOOM's engine?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 14 03:04:03 2021 No.8136246 Hey Anons, my lewd TC is still underway. Working on some visual effects. Don't open at work, as usual. https://redgifs.com/watch/courageouslumpyblesbok

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 14 03:05:24 2021 No.8136249 >>8136242 No, I will not allow you to.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 14 03:05:39 2021 No.8136250 >>8136242 Depends on your approach. You could definitely take Strife and expand the shit out of it to have more stats and learnable skills and stuff.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 14 03:06:27 2021 No.8136251 >>8136242 Don't see why you couldn't. Of course, as far as implementing exactly what you want, you'd have to wrestle with the limitations of the code.

Anonymous Tue Sep 14 03:07:36 2021 No.8136252

>>8136242
If you mean dialogue shit there is Strife like that guy said, if you mean classes skill points etc there are already mods for that, heretical doom comes to my mind. There was also a pretty big Hexen mod where at the start you rolled for stats, had a town, classes etc but don't remember its name

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 14 03:14:29 2021 No.8136265 >>8136242 If you have to ask, etc.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 14 03:15:40 2021 No.8136269 >>8136183 phone poster

Anonymous Tue Sep 14 03:17:55 2021 No.8136273
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That was a pleasant surprise, just discovered that picrelated works fine with Delta touch and runst without problems (at least the first area) even on a potato phone. You only need to get hedon.ipk3, rename it to hedon.pk3, put it to mods dir and choose the latest gzdoom version for it. Freedom can be used as a base game. Controller works ou if the box. Ingame gont is configurable to be readable size. Got two secrets on s first map (waterfall, huh), currently looking how to open the big door that is without power.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 14 03:21:23 2021 No.8136279 >Seven hundred and sixty one armless and legless corpses float inconspicuously around the inside of hangar ninety six.

Anonymous Tue Sep 14 03:22:49 2021 No.8136282

>>8135978
Very cool map. Savescummed my way through it on UV. That reveal of the big pillar-like structure in the canyon is the kind of large scale stuff I enjoy. The final fight felt sort of brutal, am I supposed to have a BFG by then? Beyond that, the visuals are great, the fights are good, the midi is great. I can listen to that shit all day. I'm excited to go back and find all the optional content.

>>8135987
Going to give this one a shot next. The very default doom 2 aesthetic and music turns me off a bit, but maybe it'll surprise me.

>>8136224
I played eviternity a while back but I can't for the life of me remember this. I'll go back to it.

Thanks anons.

Anonymous Tue Sep 14 03:23:08 2021 No.8136285

>>8136273
>runs without problems (at least the first area) even on a potato phone.

I'd expect major framerate issues later on, but I could be wrong.

>currently looking how to open the big door that is without power.

I hope your phone screen is clear enough for you to spot the cracks in the wall.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 14 03:32:08 2021 No.8136297 >>8136282 Glad you liked Miasma. If you want some Sunder worship, Abandon is incredible, very much a spiritual successor.

Anonymous Tue Sep 14 03:56:04 2021 No.8136319

>>8135710
Kevin Cloud didn't like the idea of people being able to load their own .wads, and the release of the source code, but he later on stated that he was wrong and Carmack had the right idea all along.

He was afraid that with people being able to just make .wads, they'd be competing with their own product, that someone could just sell their own Doom, and sort of he was right, you had products like The Lost Episodes, as well as D!Zone, the latter which actually sold a lot, at one point even more than Doom itself. Seeing all kinds of cool and creative shit which fans made for the game though, and how it just kept coming and coming, well after the game was old and mainstream popularity had cooled down, really changed his mind.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 14 03:58:31 2021 No.8136321 >>8135602 It has some pretty fucking good levels. Consider pirating it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 14 04:02:07 2021 No.8136328 >>8135548 I'll chime in as well, Chop here, I'm planning on at least one level, but ideally more. Had the worst mapper's block for a long time and I'm hoping I can dislodge it with a Halloween map.

Anonymous Tue Sep 14 04:12:28 2021 No.8136347
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>>8135330
>>8135684
>>8136093
Damn, I totally butchered this. Alright, submitting my map according to the spreadsheet format...
Map Name: Norwitch Lane
Author: lunchlunch
Playtime: 13-15 minutes
MIDI: Norwich Lane by sonny666
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ZElHXUEHnbnLbtYnIwyABGTI--ZwH6By/view?usp=sharing

Anonymous Tue Sep 14 04:20:52 2021 No.8136360

>>8136242
>Strife
>Serpent: Resurrection
>Abysm
>The Inquisitor/Ascension
Depends on what sort of RPG elements you want to attach, there's a bunch of mods with at least some RPG elements.

>>8136279
>inconspicuously
The most confusing part of that sentence. How big is Hangar 96 that 761 torsos manage to be inconspicuous?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 14 04:39:15 2021 No.8136380 >>8136347 Looks spoopy. I can't wait to play the wad when it's done. Gonna put out a few candles and play on Halloween.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 14 04:54:00 2021 No.8136410 >>8136189 You don't need to make a slaughtermap in the 20s, they were just also allowed because some crybabies didn't stop complaining. A regular very hard map is also fine.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 14 05:11:46 2021 No.8136443 >>8136297 Got through the first 2 levels with intense savescumming and this is fucked. It's like all the bits of sunder that made me the angriest. Love it. Design and atmosphere is perfect.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 14 05:18:09 2021 No.8136457 >>8135602 >cursed Randy version No.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 14 05:19:54 2021 No.8136460 >>8136273 Simply awful. Had to refund that shit.

Anonymous Tue Sep 14 05:26:38 2021 No.8136463

>>8136460
>Simply awful

If you mostly just want to kill kill kill, the puzzles and item hunts are going to filter you within the first 2-3 maps and you will hate it.

If you are patient and observant, and willing to take time to read, it's a fun game that alternately scratches the itches of both atmospheric adventure-puzzler and fps combat one after the other.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 14 05:31:13 2021 No.8136468 File: 1.04 MB, 1567x2200, 1467422955-1445703744.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Found this Opposing Force magazine ad and before anyone asks no ads like this didn't make more sense in the 90s.

Anonymous Tue Sep 14 06:12:22 2021 No.8136512 [SPOILER]

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>>8136347
Okay, just went through the map.
First of all, it looks really pretty. The impaled bodies silhouetting against the orange sky, just splendid! I also didn't notice any misaligned textures or anything.
Because I am a scrub, I played on HMP.
The ambush in the dark hallway kicked my ass and without super health, so I am glad I found that secret, though it wasn't really more of a secret than the regular switch to open that hallway. I don't know if people will find that right away, or will have more trouble finding the secret than finding the regular path. I would have wished for a little bit more health around that part because the hallway did a thing on me and then stepping out into that cavern thing to eat a bunch of fireballs from everywhere out of the dark also wasn't fun. The Archie ambush got me good. I didn't find out how to get the presumed secret along that path (not the berserk one). With the berserk one I really liked that it was just a lower bit of wall you could climb over. With the first Cyberdemon I really had problems because I constantly got stuck in geometry or decorations when trying to zip around the area. If there was a trick to that fight, I didn't find it. I could definitely have used more health. The platforming wasn't as bad as expected and really fair. The cathedral was well done for what it is. I really don't like slaughter, though I had to laugh when the doors opened and there were like a million imps literally out. Do I have to provoke infighting or something? Is that the number of imps it takes to bring down a Cybie? Fighting the gargoyles was also fun, I really like them. Did you already place them for the 25hp version or are these still placed with the 60hp in mind? I am glad that in the last fight the Cybie got taken care of, though there were so many Cacos and I ate a few Rev fireballs. Also, I ended the level with about 30 monsters left, though I have no idea where they could have come from.

Anonymous Tue Sep 14 06:17:34 2021 No.8136517

>>8136285
>I'd expect major framerate issues later on, but I could be wrong.

Hope to be able to disable niceties/shaders for later maps, never dealt with gzdoom on Android before, was usually using RetroArch+PrBoom for Plutonia and stuff and DosBox for Hexen.

>>currently looking how to open the big door that is without power.
>I hope your phone screen is clear enough for you to spot the cracks in the wall.

Just found the pick-axe but haven't yet got how to use it, need to setup inventory buttons.

What is a general opinion on Hedon, is second part good? From the first level I am having not even Hexen (intro there was beautiful), but Witchaven vibes - nice clean graphics and the samey wall textures everywhere.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 14 06:46:08 2021 No.8136567 >>8136517 >is second part good? I think so, good bit of nonlinear hub-based exploration mixed with more traditional single levels. Final boss is much better than Crystal Heart's final boss, too.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 14 06:47:27 2021 No.8136569 >>8136463 where's the dick zan

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 14 06:48:01 2021 No.8136570 >>8136463 It's like 10% shooting and 90% wandering around if you don't use a guide. >inb4 lel I figured environmental puzzles out right away Sure.

Anonymous Tue Sep 14 07:12:09 2021 No.8136603

>>8136570
> It's like 10% shooting and 90% wandering around if you don't use a guide.

Sounds good, active shooting on a controller is kinda joke. Wandering with a controller works well though. Still remember getting to Hexen 7 portals secret level without the guide, that was cool.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 14 07:28:53 2021 No.8136625 File: 169 KB, 960x538, 1612239962346.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 14 07:30:04 2021 No.8136632 >>8136625 It's a slug with a milk carton sticking out its back

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 14 07:34:47 2021 No.8136645 >>8135326 Why Nightmare on the Quake remaster feels fucked?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 14 07:34:52 2021 No.8136646 >>8136625 Okay, what is that?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 14 07:38:12 2021 No.8136653 >>8136646 Never played Freedoom?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 14 07:40:17 2021 No.8136663 >>8136625 doomguy but he jim from the office

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 14 07:42:44 2021 No.8136680 File: 23 KB, 338x500, doomguy karl urban.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8136663 That sprite is actually based on Doomguy from the Doom movie, played by Karl Urban

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 14 07:43:51 2021 No.8136685 >>8136653 No, that's what the mancubi look like in it? Hilarious! Looks like something from Monty Python.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 14 07:45:05 2021 No.8136689 >>8136680 >the Doom movie is over 15 years old Holy shit I could have sworn it was from 2009 or so

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 14 08:00:07 2021 No.8136737 File: 1.96 MB, 1920x1080, capture_20210914-0196.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I managed to implement skyboxes with separate, animated layers and blended cloud / ground layers.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 14 08:02:41 2021 No.8136743 File: 173 KB, 1280x720, maxresdefault.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Was getting to Steam to pay for hedon.pk3 I am using and stumbled upon this beauty. Are there any other well-known modern GZDoom games I am missing?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 14 08:08:34 2021 No.8136757 File: 552 KB, 1920x1080, Hangar - The Ultimate DOOM 14.09.2021 14_59_14.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] tried to declutter gzdoom hud https://files.catbox.moe/qsm0r5.pk3

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 14 08:13:25 2021 No.8136773 >>8136189 E4M1 style starvation would be cool as fuck, I love that level. Continuous play may cramp your style though, which is usually the case, but more than typical. Maybe the guy behind you could be persuaded to make his level have a death exit?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 14 08:17:28 2021 No.8136792 >>8135643 Why not with Eduke?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 14 08:22:02 2021 No.8136813 >>8136743 Rekkr Sunken Land, Supplice and Selaco will be released on Steam. There's also Age Of Hell, which be released free in parts.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 14 08:32:58 2021 No.8136848 >>8136813 > Rekkr Sunken Land, Supplice Thanks, these two for some reason are listed only for windows and were filtered in fps+retro+linux search. Supplice looks neat. > Selaco This one was found and wishlisted already

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 14 08:37:16 2021 No.8136851 >>8136848 You can just take the Rekkr iwad and play on your phone if you want.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 14 08:39:17 2021 No.8136852 >>8136737 >I managed to implement skyboxes with separate, animated layers and blended cloud / ground layers. how often is that done in doom modding?

Anonymous Tue Sep 14 08:49:26 2021 No.8136870

>>8136512
There actually aren't lower difficulties implemented yet because I don't see any point in trying to balance HNTR and HMP until I can get the feedback to balance UV correctly. So good job, not as much of a scrub as you think.
Yeah, I'm curious how long it takes players to progress from the cottage to the cave. Progression is a little obtuse there on purpose but ultimately there's a candle and a health bonus in front of a flashing switch so it shouldn't be too esoteric. What decorations were you running into around the first cyberdemon? I intended for the player to fight him down in the plasma gun swamp where there shouldn't be anything in the way, were you able to run past him on the hill and fight him in front of the castle? Glad the platforming wasn't too bad, I made it so you don't have to strafe jump anywhere, I wanted it to look harder than it actually is. Infighting helps with the cyberdemon/imp fight but really there's no trick to it other than slaughter everything. Rocket all the imps, plasma the cybie. The gargoyles were placed and tested mostly with the 60hp version, knowing they'd be nerfed eventually. Thirty monsters left eh? There's an optional chaingun encounter near the cottage it sounds like you missed, it helps with the first half of the map. If you didn't get a chaingun before the first archvile, then you missed the chaingun fight.

Anonymous Tue Sep 14 09:11:40 2021 No.8136914
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>>8136851
>You can just take the Rekkr iwad and play on your phone if you want.

Intend to do so, just it looks silly to not list GZDoom game for all platforms given that it works everywhere and just needs to be packaged properly.

>>8136569
> where's the dick zan

Was not getting this at first and then read some Steam comments and got a good laugh from them.

Anonymous Tue Sep 14 09:24:06 2021 No.8136953
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>>8136680
Judge Dredd Build game with Urban's voice, that would be amazing.
>>8136792
It doesn't work with the normal version of Eduke, you can find a special version that it does work with on the Duke4 forums if you must use Eduke.

Anonymous Tue Sep 14 09:35:23 2021 No.8136978
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>>8136870
I was mainly getting stuck on the pumpkin up on the pillar, generally on the edges of the rocks and on the firesticks (e.g. where the health was). I thought "he surely doesn't want me to just stay in the swamp and snipe from there?", but oh well... As for the chaingun encounter, I don't think I had that. Weird, I thought I had found everything. But yeah, it would have certainly helped lol.

That said, do you have any idea why my monster conveyors don't work? I have set up some monsters on conveyor belts because I want them to be statically teleported into a room and not go on the hunt for the player, but for some reason they seem to pass the teleport linedefs without getting teleported anywhere. The teleport destinations are also in the open and when having them alerted and walk over the teleport lines by themselves it works, it's just that for some reason they don't seem to work when just getting transported over.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 14 09:38:35 2021 No.8136984 >>8136978 Oh and I have another closet with flying monsters that are set up with a point pusher; that one works reliably. Also also, I can't remember, which 2048maps were yours?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 14 09:41:50 2021 No.8136990 >>8136852 No idea. This is my OGL renderer, not Doom.

Anonymous Tue Sep 14 09:43:34 2021 No.8136995

>>8136347
Very nice. Beautiful map and fun too. Did it first try, so it felt pretty fair. Pretty lost for the first half, I'm fairly patient so I thought it was fine. I recorded a demo but realized afterwards that I removed the dehacked lump from my resources to test some updates I made and so none of the custom monsters appeared. It's below if you want to watch it, but expect it to desync.
https://files.catbox.moe/4azx2m.lmp

Anonymous Tue Sep 14 09:49:39 2021 No.8137009

>>8136093
>Are we not playtesting until October 14?
People can give you feedback and playtest your map anytime.
in October 14 basically I'll make a compilation of WIP maps into a one wad and possibly release it just for Testing purposes. People can still submit their maps before or after that day anyways but the official deadline is October 29.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 14 09:50:19 2021 No.8137010 >>8136914 presumptuous artwork, borderline insulting

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 14 09:52:44 2021 No.8137014 >>8137010 Presumptuous doesn't even begin to cover it; but coomers are gonna do their cringe shit so it's best just to ignore it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 14 09:53:00 2021 No.8137016 >>8136914 where's the big futa bulge

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 14 09:55:45 2021 No.8137027 >>8136914 DS could gib that futa bitch one handed while riding a unicycle upside down in a pyroclastic surge

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 14 10:10:19 2021 No.8137068 File: 251 KB, 1680x1050, 1631628619544.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8136347 This gave me a hearty kek. Still haven't finished the whole map but already Im impressed with aesthetics

Anonymous Tue Sep 14 10:22:49 2021 No.8137103

>>8136978
>>8136984
Is that floor set to scrolling and is it scrolling the correct direction? The linedefs are flipped backwards, that could be it. Also, when I've tried to do something similar in my maps, it was jank and sometimes monsters would skip over the lines without teleporting. So on every conveyor, I had to make it so that the monster looped, teleporting at the end of the conveyor to the beginning, just in case they skipped over the intended linedef.
My 2048 maps were Defiled Waters and Peanut Gallery.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 14 10:28:29 2021 No.8137123 >>8137103 Yeah, it's scrolling into the right direction and linedef orientation shouldn't matter here. And I even put three teleport lines in a row, why did they miss all of them? But looping them is a good idea.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 14 10:59:12 2021 No.8137187 Are there any boom compatible gameplay mods?

Anonymous Tue Sep 14 11:19:16 2021 No.8137223

>>8136914
>just it looks silly to not list GZDoom game for all platforms
I don't currently have a Linux partition/machine to set up a build for. After the I get it out the door I'll set one up. I just don't want to list it for Linux when it won't be at release. But it *should* be shortly after.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 14 11:20:56 2021 No.8137227 >>8137223 I just realized I accidentally the sentence. As soon as I get the game out the door for windows...etc etc..

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 14 11:27:26 2021 No.8137246 >>8136120 >Discord spoilers I'm sorry about your retardation.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 14 12:02:42 2021 No.8137326 >>8136757 Add Doomguy's face back, it's a good indicator.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 14 12:04:05 2021 No.8137329 >>8135782 Golden Carnage is the best one. Felt like an old 3DRealms map.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 14 12:38:00 2021 No.8137409 >>8137187 Doom 4 Vanilla, it's an amazing mod.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 14 12:39:29 2021 No.8137413 >>8136978 Action linedefs facing wrong direction, and possibly not enough space for the monsters to fully cross the line. Also make sure conveyor rolls in the right direction.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 14 12:59:34 2021 No.8137465 Is Who Wants Some Wang the Ultra-Violence of Shadow Warrior?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 14 13:01:56 2021 No.8137474 >>8137123 >and linedef orientation shouldn't matter here Yes it does, linedef actions only work from one direction, UDB helpfully denotes that direction with the little peg on one side.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 14 13:06:00 2021 No.8137489 >>8136645 They replaced aggressive AI with 50% max health.

Anonymous Tue Sep 14 13:08:38 2021 No.8137496
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>>8136978
try making a the teleport entrance like a cone like structure if more demon miss the first one, the demons will bounce to the next teleport line.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 14 13:10:17 2021 No.8137505 >>8137465 Is that the hardest one? I don't remember the SW difficulty names but SW doesn't have an enemy respawning difficulty so you want the hardest one

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 14 13:11:12 2021 No.8137507 >>8137505 No Pain No Gain is the hardest one, Who Wants Some Wang is the second hardest.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 14 13:13:35 2021 No.8137514 >>8137507 SW difficulties don't have gimmicks like other Build games, IIRC its only enemy placements and it's not like Blood balanced for co-op either, so if you want UV you'll be going for NPNG

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 14 13:13:57 2021 No.8137515 >>8137187 d4v and the vanilla randomizer

Anonymous Tue Sep 14 13:19:16 2021 No.8137529

>>8137187
There's D4V and uhhhh
Boiled Doom, which is just Dehacked Brutal Doom, hasn't been updated since release
Someone here posted a Quake weaponset using MBF21, don't know if they plan on doing anything with it or if it was a one-off test
Xaser is currently making Vesper for MBF21, but it isn't out yet

That's all I can think of

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 14 13:25:12 2021 No.8137551 >>8137409 >>8137515 >>8137529 Cool thanks Are there any "packs" or something that mix the enemy/weapons up? even if it's just a simple reskin/sound replacement(if you don't mind spoonfeeding again)?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 14 13:26:07 2021 No.8137554 >>8137551 just use gzdoom dude

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 14 13:27:30 2021 No.8137561 >>8137554 My toaster doesn't like it

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 14 13:28:19 2021 No.8137562 >>8137561 try out lzdoom

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 14 13:30:03 2021 No.8137567 >>8137561 maybe you just can't configure it properly? lower resolution, remove decals, disable particles, smoothing etc

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 14 13:31:54 2021 No.8137573 >>8137561 Try GLESZDoom, it works perfectly fine with my machine

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 14 13:32:17 2021 No.8137576 >>8137562 >>8137567 Nah it's my gpu, just refuses to work with it and I'm too poor to uprade so i'm stuck with boom

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 14 13:33:05 2021 No.8137578 >>8137576 My gpu also died a while ago and lzdoom on software works fine enough for me

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 14 13:35:19 2021 No.8137586 >>8137578 Software does work in L/GZ but glboom just gives me way better performance

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 14 13:55:48 2021 No.8137628 File: 23 KB, 316x316, Darka[1].jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] anyone remember this?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 14 14:05:05 2021 No.8137661 >>8137628 Yeah, it just came back

Anonymous Tue Sep 14 14:07:18 2021 No.8137669

Here's the new DeHackEd, I added ambient sounds since last version. 40 decorations in all, I probably won't add any more, maybe a few if you want them for your map.
One limitation is that sounds don't play on map start, they have to loop silently once and then start playing (e.g. if a sound plays every 10 seconds, it will start playing 10 seconds after map start). Try to place them out of earshot from spawn if you can. They're a bit janky as well, nothing I can really do about it, Doom wasn't made to play ambient sounds. No test map this time.
https://files.catbox.moe/a0lz4e.zip

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 14 14:10:28 2021 No.8137679 >>8137669 Forgot to include a list of what was added, here's a list with the DoomEdNums for each thing https://pastebin.com/Hz4LsMmv

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 14 14:17:38 2021 No.8137698 Just finished KNiTD with Hideous Destructor Man this was fun as heck E1M8 was a grind, but I think the hardest one was E1M9

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 14 14:24:34 2021 No.8137718 >>8136570 >It's like 10% shooting and 90% wandering around Never made it past grove, huh?

Anonymous Tue Sep 14 14:34:53 2021 No.8137735

>>8137103
>>8137413
>>8137474
>>8137496
Thanks for the feedback. Turns out I'm a fucking retard. I assumed linedef orientation doesn't matter because the activated imp (and a knight in another closet) was teleported, but obviously he was just wandering around and crossing the line from the other side. Flipped linedefs and now it works.

Anonymous Tue Sep 14 14:36:11 2021 No.8137737

>>8136517
>>I'd expect major framerate issues later on, but I could be wrong.
>Hope to be able to disable niceties/shaders for later maps

Slowdown in bigger rooms is real, it is bad and there is nothing seems to help with it. The first room in map 1 in full game (big lava cave, it was not there in demo) gives sub 10 FPS - authentic "Quake on 486dx feeling". At least after tweaking video settings disabling filtering and AA stuff it actually looks better than before.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 14 14:36:50 2021 No.8137739 I need to learn how to make climables in trenchbroom like ladders and stuff

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 14 14:39:37 2021 No.8137748 >>8136273 That maps and ost are kinda nice but I cant stand the fucking art style. Its really disgusting. Sadly cant get past it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 14 14:40:36 2021 No.8137752 >>8136246 >shotcum talk about blowing your load!

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 14 14:40:58 2021 No.8137753 >>8137739 Ladders require custom QC (usually in the form of a trigger that lets the jump button move you up), unless you're making them on a slant where they're effectively stairs.

Anonymous Tue Sep 14 14:57:41 2021 No.8137785

Is there a way in Boom to silently kill monsters? Like if I had a monster in a closet and you could press a switch and that switch would kill the monster without you even knowing.
So far I haven't found a solution because e.g. crushers not only make height change noises, but you also hear the monsters scream.
I just want them gone, like *poof*.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 14 15:00:57 2021 No.8137797 >>8137753 fug I guess I'll just use the grappling hook instead

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 14 15:01:11 2021 No.8137798 File: 293 KB, 720x1038, 1372489285583.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] This how it feels to beat Run from It when you suck at strafe running.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 14 15:03:15 2021 No.8137804 >>8137669 Pretty nice, like most of the sounds, maybe except that whispers one The decorations are hit or miss, but seeing as they are optional this is a great addition

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 14 15:04:19 2021 No.8137809 >>8137785 silent teleport it into oblivion

Anonymous Tue Sep 14 15:06:24 2021 No.8137819
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>playing doom 64
>ambushed by barons and knights in a medium-sized room
>getting shot from back and front
>adrenaline kicks in
>enter flow state, suddenly aware of every enemy and projectile position
>can FEEL where doomguy is, he responds perfectly to WASD presses
>everything's in slow motion, I have time to react to every single thing
>evade attacks in a ∞ pattern, kill everyone
>don't get hit at all
>feels great
Do you guys get into the zone often? This is a pretty rare occurrence for me. I usually deal with small groups of enemies at a time.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 14 15:11:42 2021 No.8137839 >>8137698 Great work. Did you run into the slayer/double barreled solely through the Doom 1 iwad and HD?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 14 15:18:24 2021 No.8137862 >>8137797 Oh, if you're mapping for Violent Rumble you can use trigger_ladder. That's from Progs Dump 2.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 14 15:43:40 2021 No.8137941 >>8137561 Zdoom.org/files Heres a repository of basically every version of gz doom ever made

Anonymous Tue Sep 14 15:47:03 2021 No.8137950

>>8137698
Good work anon.
>E1M8 was a grind
This is why I don't recommend Doom 1 maps to new HD players anymore. The limited roster doesn't teach you about shieldbreaks and then throws you completely into the deep end in the boss fights. You can pretty easily plow through E1 just using 4.26 on everything and then you hit a brick wall with the barons and their 2000 points of shielding that specifically counters 4.26. You need bigger bullets to break shields, and unless you get lucky with chaingun spawns or backpacks, the best you're likely to have in E1 is 9mm, which is serviceable, but unintuitive. You wouldn't normally think to pull a smaller weapon to engage a tougher enemy.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 14 15:53:06 2021 No.8137962 >>8135330 Anchoring >>8137669

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 14 16:14:53 2021 No.8138008 >>8137669 Fucking nice anon. Just so I understand correctly, project lead will add them to the resource wad when he's done with the texture stuff? Or are we loading two resources from now on?

Anonymous Tue Sep 14 16:16:59 2021 No.8138013
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I'm looking for good wads for Hideous Destructor, even better if it works well in coop.
So far we've played:
>Scythe
>NEIS
>parts of AV
>Perdition's Gate
>NeoDoom (from Compendium)
>Hellbound
>Hellfire

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 14 16:20:46 2021 No.8138023 >>8138013 Diabolus Ex is one recommended a lot, it's a medium sized excursion through a Deus Ex inspired office tower and has some good spots for terrain destruction

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 14 16:21:07 2021 No.8138024 >>8138013 I will always shill for Doom 1 and 2 The Way Id Did in regards to Hideous Destructor. They’re a great way to end a tour of the four initial iwads.

Anonymous Tue Sep 14 16:27:07 2021 No.8138032

>>8137839
Probably not
I don't remember any, but I was a retard and didn't understand how to use backpacks so I just didn't pick them up, that one's on me
>>8137950
Indeed, I didn't even knew enemies could have shields until I realised barons had them
I think I got lucky, got a vulcanette and a bolt action rifle, took me some time but I killed both of them

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 14 16:35:15 2021 No.8138058 In Boom, if I set multiple teleport destinations in a sector, will they be used or is it only the first one?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 14 16:36:08 2021 No.8138061 File: 615 KB, 1920x1080, Hangar - The Ultimate DOOM 14.09.2021 23_25_28.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8137326 https://files.catbox.moe/q4b1bt.pk3

Anonymous Tue Sep 14 16:39:44 2021 No.8138071

>>8138023
Its more nu deus ex inspired it seems.

Looking back they were kinda gay but better attempts from square than fucking tomb raider. Another series we wont see ever again.

Dont you guys think we are living in generational changing times. Outside the varus. I mean are even graphic cards ever going to be accessible again?

Maybe this is only serve to push streaming.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 14 16:40:13 2021 No.8138073 >>8138058 One of them will be used. Not sure if the first one or the last one.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 14 16:48:27 2021 No.8138104 >>8137514 Not quite, enemies have faster reaction time and attack more often on NPNG.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 14 16:49:26 2021 No.8138105 >>8138071 >are even graphic cards ever going to be accessible again? Probably, eventually, but not necessarily soon. It takes time for the chip makers to step up production capacity.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 14 16:50:44 2021 No.8138109 >>8138105 And if they do people will just mine more.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 14 16:55:38 2021 No.8138123 Is there any mods i should get for my first Doom play? something like Brutal doom, or anything?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 14 16:56:13 2021 No.8138124 >>8138123 you never played Doom before? Go vanilla.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 14 16:57:19 2021 No.8138128 >>8138123 no

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 14 16:57:50 2021 No.8138129 HOLY SHIT I FUCKING LOVE THE GARGOYLES

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 14 16:57:56 2021 No.8138130 >>8138123 smooth doom. that's literally vanilla+

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 14 16:57:58 2021 No.8138131 >>8138124 No but i've got all of the original games plus wolfenstein, just not sure if i should get anything for a better experience

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 14 16:58:35 2021 No.8138134 >>8138131 Nah, Doom's fine as is, once you get through Doom 1 and 2, then look into some mods.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 14 16:58:55 2021 No.8138136 >>8138123 Just play normally on Crispy or PrBoom+ gzDoom is fine too, but default settings are way way off.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 14 16:59:23 2021 No.8138140 >>8138123 vanilla with any sourceport that isn't gzdoom

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 14 17:00:38 2021 No.8138142 >>8138131 >just not sure if i should get anything for a better experience As has been said, maybe "smooth doom" but it's fine as is. See if it hooks you in first, then start looking into cosmetic mods.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 14 17:04:39 2021 No.8138157 Alright thanks for the answers, time to start an killing spree.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 14 17:06:26 2021 No.8138160 >vanilla vanilla vanilla it's not like you guys are playing on chocolate doom

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 14 17:07:35 2021 No.8138161 >>8138160 >b-b-but muh widescreen

Anonymous Tue Sep 14 17:17:15 2021 No.8138176

>>8137669
Really good work anon.
May I just suggest to name the stuff after their category?
Like "statue green" instead of "green statue", "spooky statue black" instead of "black spooky statue" and especially the ambiences, something like "ambience - whispers".
I think that way it would be easier to find stuff.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 14 17:23:07 2021 No.8138193 File: 1.34 MB, 1189x786, baron_progress.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] How did everyone else first play Doom? I came in late with Final Doom through Doom95.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 14 17:24:24 2021 No.8138196 >>8138193 Like everyone else - GZDoom with texture filtering

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 14 17:27:10 2021 No.8138204 >>8138193 I think it was still through DOS back then, but I was a small child. My father used to show me all sorts of games back then.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 14 17:30:48 2021 No.8138210 >>8138193 ps1 doom. first time i actually played regular pc doom. i was surprised there wasn't a pain elemental on level one.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 14 17:32:27 2021 No.8138217 >>8138013 Suspended In Dusk

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 14 17:34:45 2021 No.8138226 >>8136995 I made a copy of the resources with dehacked removed so I could watch the demo, thanks. Sorry it took you so long to find the switch. I might make it brighter, depends on if others get stuck for too long.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 14 17:35:16 2021 No.8138229 >>8136468 Its appears to be either Spanish, Czech, or Romanian.

Anonymous Tue Sep 14 17:36:33 2021 No.8138236
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>>8138193
At a friend's house, early 1994. His older brother had a not so legal copy of the game and a pretty beefy 80486 to play it on.
I had extensively played Wolfenstein 3D on a then-already ancient 80286 but this...this was something different. 12 yo me was shocked and fascinated.

Anonymous Tue Sep 14 17:37:02 2021 No.8138238
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>>8138196
>trilinear filtering
its on
>anistropic filtering
16X
>fxaa filtering
its set to extreme
>bloom effect
its on
>lights and bright maps
checked
>widescreen and 16x9 aspect ratio
both on
>custom hud
its on
>uncapped frame rate?
its running at 600 fps

>its time to play doom

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 14 17:40:08 2021 No.8138249 >>8138193 My dad had the shareware episode on his computer and when my mom would leave to work graveyard shift, my dad would secretly let us play. One time she came home early and caught us and they ended up in this huge fight and went to counseling.

Anonymous Tue Sep 14 17:46:01 2021 No.8138263
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>>8138193
I think it was either on my neighbour pentium 1, or a friend of my fathers, thankfully never cared for me playing violent games. Even I spoke to him recently he found doom even back then honestly kinda funny and the violence cartoony.

I do remember very well playing doom 1 and 2 extensively on my neighbour pc, he was a metal head and let me play games all summer afternoons cause I was not really a problematic kid, I didnt want to break his pc.
Man I remember playing quake the first time jesus indeed.

Once I had some money in 1the late 90s from some summer jobs at 13 with some help I bought a pc that would eventually install a voodoo 2. Will never forget that pc. In fact its a shame I threw it out.

That said I rarely play doom, I played it a few times later to the end and some mods but thats it, there only so many imps I can slay until I found it meh, I like to hang around here cause its comfy even with the crazy janny. And I like old fps, especially Thief immersive sim stuff and build games, among other classic games from rts to simulation, everything really.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 14 17:53:44 2021 No.8138291 Alright i played a few levels, it just felt kinda average, not sure if i was expecting too much or its just not really my thing? But im still gonna finish it, those invisible guys fucking jumpscare me to hell.

Anonymous Tue Sep 14 17:55:57 2021 No.8138298
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>>8138263
>I like old fps, especially Thief immersive sim stuff
That reminds me, Thief gets a lot of love with FMs but are there any notably good FMs for System Shock 2 outside of Christine's i.e. Ponterbee Station?
Even that one isn't nearly as good as the original game because the ESL voice acting in the audio logs is too goofy. I feel that someone could make a killer atmospheric FM with very few/no voiced audio-logs; hell, even non-CD SS1 had none and had it's immersive moments despite the age.

Anonymous Tue Sep 14 17:59:12 2021 No.8138310

>>8138298
Not really. Kinda of a bummer since I find SS2 one of the most aesthetically pleasing games ever made, from the inventory sprites to the overall textures.

Thief gets all the love, and I dont mind, the fan content for Thief is gigantic. Hyped for gloomwood, I do hope it also gets a editor, Thief fans will go crazy with it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 14 18:01:29 2021 No.8138318 >>8137819 By WASD you of course mean C-button presses on your authentic N64 controller with linesr filtering enabled.... Right? For the true vanilla experience the way it was intended to be played?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 14 18:04:15 2021 No.8138324 Why do you post a pic of a movie game?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 14 18:05:19 2021 No.8138328 >>8138324 >>8135326 *did you post

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 14 18:06:06 2021 No.8138329 >8138328 See >>8135629

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 14 18:06:25 2021 No.8138330 Why won't anyone make Turok maps? If people don't release new maps for 1+2 I think I'm going to have to fucking [redacted] some fucking [redacted]

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 14 18:07:54 2021 No.8138338 >>8138329 You can't hide the truth. Oldfags hated this game for ruining the genre. Archives from 2013-2016 prove it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 14 18:14:14 2021 No.8138359 >>8138238 >16x9 >not playing 21:9 kino experience

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 14 18:14:15 2021 No.8138360 >>8138330 You do it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 14 18:18:01 2021 No.8138372 File: 339 KB, 1254x650, doorstuck.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8136171

Anonymous Tue Sep 14 18:18:14 2021 No.8138373

>>8138330
>>8138360
agreed anon, this could be your chance to make some turok maps.

>>8138359
extremely based pump that as pect ratio up. i won't stop until i get doom in 8k at 1000 fps a second.
its the way doom was meant to be played honestly. i know i asked john romero himself and he said thats how they intended it back in 1993 honestly lmao

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 14 18:18:53 2021 No.8138375 >>8138360 >>8138373 Its like... Really hard to make maps. Can't someone else do it

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 14 18:19:21 2021 No.8138378 >>8138318 >fps with a controller Nah, but I do play my shit on a CRT.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 14 18:20:19 2021 No.8138381 >>8138193 emulating the gameboy advance version in the computer lab at the boys and girls club

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 14 18:27:47 2021 No.8138397 >>8138193 that one newgrounds flash port, then a site that hosted msdos box stuff

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 14 18:30:59 2021 No.8138405 File: 1.28 MB, 1920x1080, spasm0000.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] was playing alkjam when I fell down a hole behind an altar and found... this

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 14 18:35:50 2021 No.8138416 Was PowerSlave already released?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 14 18:46:06 2021 No.8138452 >>8138372 It's amazing how nearly all of the sound effects from the 90s came from a single sound library.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 14 18:49:16 2021 No.8138459 >>8138416 No.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 14 18:50:26 2021 No.8138462 >>8138193 Doom95. I think it was just the shareware version but I'm not sure. My mom bought it

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 14 18:51:05 2021 No.8138465 >>8138372 >image filename >P L E A S E

Anonymous Tue Sep 14 18:54:29 2021 No.8138481
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>>8138193
A friend sent over some floppies of the full version of Doom. Not that it really mattered since it ran on a 386SX and ran at slideshow framerates since it lacked the math processor. Had to lower the screen size to postage stamp to get barely playable at times. Still it was interesting enough to get me to pick up Doom II at CompUSA (or was it still Computer City) which ran smooth as butter on the 486.

Anonymous Tue Sep 14 18:59:48 2021 No.8138496
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>>8136347
>>8138226
Just played through a bit of it, and I'll be the first to say that the first switch puzzle really stumped the hell out of me. I ended up finding the shotgun shells in the well and the beserk secret before I reloaded the map and looked at the thread before I managed to find the switch.
I might just be retarded though. The first imp ambush immediately after that kicked my ass, so I'll return when I have more time to see if I can get further. But the map looks amazing, seriously seeing the first area for the first time really was something else.
Also, the skeleton in picrelated really spooked the bones out of me

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 14 19:00:53 2021 No.8138503 >>8136189 it doesn't necessarily have to be slaughtershit. anon lead also throw other ideas like plutonia, sigil for gameplay-wise but do whatever you want, it has to be hard tho

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 14 19:04:27 2021 No.8138517 >>8138193 Some shitty game compilation cd, I don't remember.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 14 19:04:35 2021 No.8138518 >>8138405 DOOM, Quake, Heretic, Hexen, or Duke 3D mod where you kill Disney characters and execs WHEN!?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 14 19:34:39 2021 No.8138635 >>8138013 Back to Saturn X episode 1, yes it's doable.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 14 19:35:59 2021 No.8138639 Spoopy MIDI https://youtu.be/DpMFLL7aZ1w

Anonymous Tue Sep 14 19:36:47 2021 No.8138643
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Early mockup of the Chaingun I wanted to do. I think I want to put some kind of box body at the rear of it which is barely visible, as well as some kind of grip for Doomguy to hold. I think also that I would like to give it a dark color.
One could use this for a faster Chaingun, but the cycle is four frames, which can be used to go through four frames twice at 1 tic each, and that would look smooth while maintaining the original rate of fire.

Should we go with a blue muzzle flash a bit like in Doom 64?

Anonymous Tue Sep 14 19:57:46 2021 No.8138708
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>>8138643
I like it, it looks heavy and brutal.
However, I think if you don't know what it is you will have a hard time figuring out, just seeing the frames.
But if you are going for the handle thing the angle will be steeper, right? So you could have the muzzles poke out a bit maybe.

I have just started working on the west wing. I have a cool concept for it, but I have to make an actual plan now, which sucks because I'm tired.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 14 19:59:17 2021 No.8138713 >>8138708 Might make the barrels protrude. It's still a rough WIP.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 14 20:03:06 2021 No.8138726 >>8138643 it doesn't look like a gatling gun imo

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 14 20:05:43 2021 No.8138730 File: 2.50 MB, 380x285, minigun-workings.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8138726 How does it not? Multiple barrels in a rotating assembly.

Anonymous Tue Sep 14 20:06:49 2021 No.8138732
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Total Meltdown: came out before dual analogs
Duke 64: lets you set the controls every which-fucking-way except the way you actually want
Saturn: doesn't have enough inputs to do proper control scheme at all

I feel cheated.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 14 20:07:34 2021 No.8138735 >>8138732 You could have played on PC

Anonymous Tue Sep 14 20:09:23 2021 No.8138739

>>8138635
>yes its doable
With all the loadout options and difficulty options - both through ‘new game’ and various HD settings - I find that there’s very little in HD that isn’t doable.
The biggest stonewalls I’ve ran into are when a level was made with no-fall-damage in mind, this is why my HD config has an emergency gravity toggle.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 14 20:13:39 2021 No.8138751 >>8138730 the barrels from that perspective and that metal thing from below looks like it was short or something, it should be larger just like the regular chaingun

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 14 20:22:08 2021 No.8138769 >>8138732 >the depressing truth that Duke has only ever had one good FPS game in his entire franchise

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 14 20:27:30 2021 No.8138790 >>8138769 Not to beat a dead horse here, but i guess you can thank that dude at 3D Realms who started all the way over from square one every single time some fancy new effect was in a different game. For duke only getting one FPS game.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 14 20:31:14 2021 No.8138796 >>8138193 I got my mom to buy it on steam when it first came out there. So I first played it in 2007. I played it in dosbox for about a year until my friend told me to get Doom Legacy which was much better.

Anonymous Tue Sep 14 20:46:31 2021 No.8138826

>>8136347
Overall very good, only a few sections have unclear progression, like where you have to find the witch eyes. I found the secret automap before I found where to go next, although that was pretty lucky that I found that secret switch as on my second playthru I had a hard time finding the secret switch.

Finished it on UV blindly first try. Map is way too easy. Get crazy aggressive with traps.
- Explosive barrels are missing from your map.
- The gargoyle was nerfed before you posted your map. In any section that you placed gargoyles, TRIPLE the number of gargs. Use this as a starting point and lower it later if needed.
- In the cave section, after you kill the two Skellingtons and are engaging the mancubus, open a monster closet behind the player, such as two satyrs.
- Instead of imps on ledges, in some places leave the ledge empty, but have an ambushing chaingunner pop up out of the floor at an inopportune moment.
- Single Turret Barons standing on a single column or pillar could be used sparingly in some sections, for example, one on the right side, near the start, by the red switch, so that he fires at you as you grab your first weapons and head into the door AND as you move to the red switch, by then you'll have the ammo to kill it.
- In the platforming section, some turret satyrs could be very annoying. Also, platforming with no cacos or PE's? There need to be some traps to send in flying monsters there, maybe after pressing the switch.

Anonymous Tue Sep 14 20:57:46 2021 No.8138850

>>8138032
>Not using a backpack
That sounds like an absolute pain. Backpack halves the weight of any item.
Backpack's used as simply as you'd think. When you pick it up, you scroll through your inventory to select it (depends on what you bind it to, mine's on [ and ], not sure if that's the default), and you'll see all the items that are eligible to be put in the backpack. To scroll through them with the backpack open, you use the left and right mouse buttons. To put an item in the backpack, you press the Reload button, and to remove it, the Unload button.

Anonymous Tue Sep 14 21:05:56 2021 No.8138871

>>8138193
I first played it in preschool in like '94. I remember drawing a picture of the hanging severed leg sprite in class. Sandy's levels left a deep impression on me. I can still remember some sections so vividly, like the marble section in E3M3. The game was scary as hell.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 14 21:06:05 2021 No.8138872 File: 2.86 MB, 532x300, doom.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8135326 R8 my doom gameplay

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 14 21:10:34 2021 No.8138885 File: 17 KB, 74x97, 1598565914452.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8138872 Yeup, it's Doom

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 14 21:11:49 2021 No.8138891 >>8138872 Seems like you're a total newb. Jk looks good looks good.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 14 21:17:05 2021 No.8138916 >>8138826 Add gargoyles in the platforming section as well. It may be hard to place since they spawn on the ceiling so maybe they can emerge from caves, along with PE's

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 14 21:20:04 2021 No.8138927 >>8138872 you play like me

Anonymous Tue Sep 14 21:26:30 2021 No.8138948
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Holy shit you only start to get a feeling for the actual scale of your map when you're plotting out the borders.

Right: Original outside area
Left: New outside area wip

The square stuff in the middle is the same house, just on the left side it's the actual dimensions of the level.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 14 21:29:40 2021 No.8138953 >>8138872 >chaingun on imps >ROCKETS ON IMPS sickening

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 14 21:31:28 2021 No.8138961 >>8138953 Chaingun works fine for imps, though having 100 shells and a SSG is a little silly, he shoulda just blasted them with buckshot.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 14 21:32:18 2021 No.8138964 >>8138953 I mean yeah look not even 40 rockets in reserve, what if you need those 40 later to take out a cyberdemon

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 14 21:46:34 2021 No.8138990 >>8138964 uh, using the plasma gun might be better I guess?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 14 21:54:43 2021 No.8139007 >>8138826 Yeah and don't forget to have a closet with at least seven revenants every few minutes.

Anonymous Tue Sep 14 21:55:03 2021 No.8139009
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Why so much gzdoom hate here? It's easy to use and has lots of useful console commands. You can just turn off filtering particles and rocket trails, and use scaling for more or less a vanilla experience. It's compatible with almost every wad. So what's the big deal

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 14 21:56:10 2021 No.8139014 >>8139009 It's overkill for what I do, which is mostly playing boom compatible wads.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 14 21:56:21 2021 No.8139015 File: 7 KB, 181x251, disgusting garbage.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8139009 Same reason why anyone picks a fight over trivial shit here.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 14 21:57:43 2021 No.8139017 >>8139009 >Why so much gzdoom hate here? Depends on the circumstance. If it's anything beyond "what should my first playthrough of Doom be through", I don't care. I just don't think it's ideal for someone's first time through the series.

Anonymous Tue Sep 14 21:59:54 2021 No.8139020

>>8139009
a) one or a few source port autists trying to instigate shit, one of which most certainly was diddled by Graf, judging by his hateboner
b) kids who started out on GZD and now try to join the cool Boom kids club
Normal people have one of each sourceport anway.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 14 22:02:06 2021 No.8139030 >>8139009 No one hates gzdoom here anyway, just a few autistic fags but they're just a minority so not big deal.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 14 22:03:30 2021 No.8139035 >>8139007 This but unironically

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 14 22:03:39 2021 No.8139036 >>8139020 tfw you have 8 source ports in your zdl source port drop down menu

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 14 22:05:14 2021 No.8139039 File: 3.29 MB, 319x215, autistic rattling.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Do we shit the wads tonight homos?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 14 22:09:23 2021 No.8139050 >>8139036 i mean seriously not even kidding. I got in there >GZDoom Gles >LZDoom >3DGE >Eternity Engine >GZDoom 3.25 or something So i can play older mods >DSDADoom >Zandronum lmao

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 14 22:10:46 2021 No.8139054 >>8139009 I just wish it had better performance. What's the point in fancy shit like dynamic lighting, 3d floors and high quality textures when the engine can barely handle them?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 14 22:24:52 2021 No.8139083 >>8139009 Shit movement, no demo compat, and graf is a meme

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 14 22:31:00 2021 No.8139098 I wish HDest had a horizontal ladder or something like that, to allow me for crossing big gaps without having to turn on the fly cheat. A way to get to higher platforms would be neat, too.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 14 22:32:21 2021 No.8139105 >>8139098 I still think HD would benefit from a grappling hook. Not a Zelda style "Yank you to where you hit" hookshot. I'm talking a rope and hook that lets you climb and swing.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 14 22:33:38 2021 No.8139108 >tfw we'll never get Marathon 3 in a fully 3D engine

Anonymous Tue Sep 14 22:44:48 2021 No.8139129

>>8139098
The jetpack exists, but is usually too heavy to be practical. You could check out the Arcanum addon, which has a bridge spell, but being a wizard requires hard committing to blues. You can also drag lamps or barrels to climb onto get to higher places.

Anonymous Tue Sep 14 22:46:48 2021 No.8139134

>>8138193

PSX Doom.

Never really understood why people called it a fast paced action game for a long time, because that port was kinda sluggish and much more horror-oriented. Actually pretty legit scary too, but then, I was 6 years old. This is also why I am very forgiving of Doom 3, it captured the vibe of what I personally remembered Doom as quite faithfully.

I fucked around with Doomsday after seeing it in PCGamer in like 2003. Texture filtering, models, the whole shebang. First played "real" Doom (no jump, no mouselook, software mode only, UVMax) on ZDoom in like 2009 or something. I think it was the same year I lost my virginity and became a man. Coincidence?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 14 22:55:28 2021 No.8139146 >>8139129 I completely forgot about the jetpack because I can go whole runs without seeing it once. But yeah, too heavy to be practical. Apparently there is a grappling hook mod and a ladder launcher one too.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 14 22:56:14 2021 No.8139148 >>8139146 The grappling hook mod is kinda weird though, the hook fires out instantly and you have to jump first to use it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 14 23:00:24 2021 No.8139157 So, I see that System Shock has an unofficial sourceport, Shockolate. For a first time playthrough should I go for it over the Enhanced Edition?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 14 23:04:41 2021 No.8139163 >>8138953 >minmaxfags

Anonymous Tue Sep 14 23:05:37 2021 No.8139165

>>8139157

Absolutely not.

Anyone who tries to tell you the same "vanilla is better" thing you are used to from Doom/Quake about System Shock? That person is full of shit, never played it, and is probably a faggot. You will sabotage your own enjoyment of the game.

We're not even talking like Morrowind/Daggerfall levels of "weird and unpalatable from a modern perspective" here, we're talking "this fucking thing makes no sense the closest comparison at the time was still fucking Ultima".

The game was made before modern controls were even a consideration, every single aspect about it is obtuse and awkward. Play the enhanced remake and then if you like that? THEN you can go back and decide if it's worth having "the authentic" experience.

Anonymous Tue Sep 14 23:20:01 2021 No.8139175

>>8139036
I have chocolate-doom, choco-render-limits, crispy-doom, woof, lzdoom, eternity engine, dsda-doom, doom 64 ex, russian-heretic, russian-hexen, russian-doom, prboom+um, prboom, glboom, prboom202, RUDE, k8vavoom, zdoom, gzdoom, doom retro, and chocolate-heretic.

Anonymous Tue Sep 14 23:23:32 2021 No.8139176

Thanks for all the feedback anons, sorry for the lengthy mass reply post, everybody else
>>8137068
That was there just for you then
>>8138496
It's looking like I'll have to lead the player to that switch better, I'm hoping I can just raise the brightness of the eyes a few notches
>>8138826
>Map is way too easy
I'm hesitant to make it much more difficult. The early-twenties map slots should be a transition period before more difficult slaughter, and the original Norwich Lane isn't a difficult map at all. I'm willing to make it a tad more difficult.
>Explosive barrels
Don't like 'em for this environment
>TRIPLE the number of gargs
I think they're best utilized like the lost soul, just a minor annoyance, I don't want hordes of them
>open the monster closet behind the player, such as two satyrs
It would have to be done via teleport but that's not a bad idea, maybe only one satyr though otherwise you're just forcing the player to retreat
>ambushing chaingunner pop up out of the floor
good idea
>Single Turret Baron by the red switch
great idea, I really like this
>platforming section
Platforming sections in DOOM are always intended for pros, I wanted to make the platforming breezy, with (almost) no monsters to contend with
>>8138916
Neat idea but probably won't implement for same reason as above, but also there's no way in hell I'm restructuring the environment there to have ceilings. It's hard to explain but unless done very carefully, I could break the sky illusion or the illusion that the hills have any depth to them.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 14 23:26:01 2021 No.8139182 Okay guys, I'm gonna stop visiting this thread. Bye.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 14 23:26:56 2021 No.8139185 >>8139182 goobye kegan

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 14 23:27:59 2021 No.8139187 >>8139134 There's something weirdly endearing about that whole family of Doom ports focused on 3D models. They look like shit and the ports themselves stopped updating years ago, but it's like looking into a time capsule.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 14 23:28:15 2021 No.8139189 File: 95 KB, 276x357, 1494602193016.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8139185 That's not me, fool. I said before that GMOTA started here in /vr/ and I'm gonna be around to see it finished.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 14 23:31:21 2021 No.8139195 Is it me or is administration center in tnt one of the most boring and shit tier levels ever made ??? Like I dc being slightly filtered about where to go but I just wasnt having fun at all

Anonymous Tue Sep 14 23:33:38 2021 No.8139201

>>8139009

There is no big deal, literally just autismos being the most maximum autist you can possibly be.

There's a smaller sub-set of map format autists who hate it basically because it's too complicated for them, but that's at least a logical reason (if a retarded one). It's the same thing as guitarists who only know pentatonic scale blues licks, so they complain about fancy metal shred players because it "doesn't have soul" as a form of cope. Like I said, dumb, but you at least can understand it- And much easier to ignore because in reality anyone sensible knows there's no substitute for talent, no matter what your style is or your chosen format.

The port autists are, however, just pure, concentrated, sperg. No fucking idea what their problem is other than they want everyone to agree with them.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 14 23:35:20 2021 No.8139203 >>8139175 Extremely based

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 14 23:36:55 2021 No.8139209 File: 1.84 MB, 245x210, 1543355659001.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8139189 >GMOTA is finished >Kegan dies >Thread quality drops exponentially

Anonymous Tue Sep 14 23:37:15 2021 No.8139212
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Almost got texture mapping finished. This has been such a slog so I'm pretty excited to see it get to this point.

>>8139165
i haven't played it but I heard the remake makes it too easy, so maybe the obtuseness was really intended, even if it was probably too obtuse.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 14 23:38:49 2021 No.8139217 >>8139209 if it makes you feel any better, I'm not leaving after GMOTA's done. I still gotta finish Combined_Arms too.

Anonymous Tue Sep 14 23:47:35 2021 No.8139229

What are some wads with a spooky atmosphere that don't change the gameplay style too much? I looked at the ones in the OP guide and Demons of Problematique looks promising.
I was playing TNT map16 the other night with its OST and storms in the distance and that was really comfy.

Anonymous Tue Sep 14 23:49:16 2021 No.8139231

>>8139212

I'd say it's the other way round if anything. The shit interface/controls put a limit on how far they could tune the difficulty because it would have just been too painful to play.

It's kinda like how Doom IWADs didn't get good in terms of difficulty until Plutonia because you couldn't even rely on people knowing how to circle strafe properly in those days.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 14 23:56:01 2021 No.8139246 >>8139209 who is kegan?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 14 23:56:47 2021 No.8139247 >>8139246 Dunno, but he sounds pretty cool to me, he made classics like demonsteele and trailblazer

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 14 23:57:50 2021 No.8139249 File: 1.96 MB, 320x226, i shall crawl into a corner and silently pass away.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8139247 >I ruined my shitty joke by mixing up trailblazer with high noon drifter again FUCK

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 15 00:03:54 2021 No.8139258 File: 469 KB, 914x784, bony mcfuckface.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8139249 Good job, pants-shitter

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 15 00:05:10 2021 No.8139260 >>8139258 Damn you pee sprayer, I'll return to torment you another thread

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 15 00:05:30 2021 No.8139261 what are some fucking shit wads

Anonymous Wed Sep 15 00:09:20 2021 No.8139268

>>8139261
Prodoomer, touhou doom, and DTS-T are the unholy trinity of legendarily shit wads. Sure, there are theoretically worse wads (i.e. wow.wad) but what makes these three stand out is how they're so long and they consistently stay shit with no signs of improvement.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 15 00:15:20 2021 No.8139281 >>8139268 >Prodoomer, touhou doom, and DTS-T What also makes these three stand out is people with no clue will tell you they're masterpieces.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 15 00:17:12 2021 No.8139285 >>8139281 It's honestly insulting when being recommended these wads.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 15 00:17:23 2021 No.8139286 File: 2.94 MB, 640x360, Replay_2021-09-15_00-01-12.mkv.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8139129 >>8139146 Jetpack loadouts can be pretty fun, though. If you pack to just under 300 blocks before the jetpack, you can really haul ass with it.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 15 00:22:55 2021 No.8139296 >>8139009 >>8139020 >>8139083 meanwhile, graf is currently in the dsda-doom doomworld thread, writing reasonable suggestions while the dsda-doom maintainer sounds extremely pissed off in return lol

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 15 00:24:29 2021 No.8139301 >>8139217 kegan when will you start experimenting with mbf21 i need your shit in vanilla BAD or at least go shit up the mbf22 request threads so that one's good enough for you

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 15 00:26:24 2021 No.8139303 >>8139296 Not really. Graf is the one over extending. Kraf's shit is stable as fuck and he just wants to do stuff his own way. He's not even pissed, just at most brushing things aside.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 15 00:27:56 2021 No.8139306 I still didn't get an answer as to why I should be running DSDA instead of PrBoom+.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 15 00:31:55 2021 No.8139314 File: 1.99 MB, 300x300, no.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8139301 >kegan using doomworld in any capacity

Anonymous Wed Sep 15 00:44:41 2021 No.8139336
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>>8139146
Kind of shit I'm talking about:
Gap is just long enough that I can't jump over to it because I'm too fat, and I can't grab onto the ledge because of weight and/or angle. Is there any way I can get through this situation without having to lose weight to have enough speed for the jump, or cheating? Promise I'm packing only the essential tools to get through this mapset.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 15 00:49:49 2021 No.8139346 >>8139212 Why does the gray border wiggle?

Anonymous Wed Sep 15 00:50:33 2021 No.8139347

>>8139176
>otherwise you're just forcing the player to retreat
The idea is to spawn the satyrs behind the player to push them into the mancubus

I had a really cool idea for the chaingun ambush: Gargoyle Skellington Archvile. Gargs fly around, skellingtons run up to you, and archvile to resurrect

Replace the SS soldier inside the automap room with a rocket with legs

Put a King Boner behind the door at the start to fight once you get your chaingun, shotgun, and combat armor.

Also turret revenants at the start on UV as a precursor to introducing King Boner

Booby trap every medkit with a revenant/skellington popping out of the ground or wall

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 15 00:51:40 2021 No.8139350 >>8139336 I'm not sure how much space you have behind you, but if possible, try jumping forward twice, let go of forward, then fist lunge and jump. If you tell me what map that is I can see if it's possible myself.

Anonymous Wed Sep 15 00:56:37 2021 No.8139354

>>8139346
you mean the area outside the 3d view?
because I had to increase the near_z plane distance so walls are getting further out.

I need to tweak the collision to prevent the player from getting too close to the walls to prevent that from happening.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 15 01:00:17 2021 No.8139361 >>8139354 so walls are getting clipped further out*

Anonymous Wed Sep 15 01:17:52 2021 No.8139387
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>>8139336
I'm assuming you have blues, or you'd barely be able to move at all at that bulk. It's easier than I thought actually, you only need to combine a fist lunge with a forward jump and you'll get it pretty consistently.

Anonymous Wed Sep 15 02:10:18 2021 No.8139450

>>8137669
How do I use these? For example I placed thing 183 (supposedly a barrel) but it doesn't show up in the game.
I removed the dehacked from the resource wad, replaced it with this new one, and I was sure to load the map with the decorations.wad as well. What gives?

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 15 02:31:25 2021 No.8139471 >>8139009 It can't run my favourite wad, Lilith

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 15 02:42:16 2021 No.8139479 File: 124 KB, 297x316, 1631502840710.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8138953 >rockets on imps

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 15 02:43:55 2021 No.8139482 >>8138193 brutal doom

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 15 02:46:00 2021 No.8139485 >>8138452 i heard the imp startle sound in some techno music on somafm the other day

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 15 02:58:49 2021 No.8139505 >>8138790 Broussard will forever be an idiot for that, DN3D was widely beloved and it was graphically dated on launch, people loved it for its gameplay and character, not for its sick and advanced graphics.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 15 03:10:57 2021 No.8139520 >>8138193 As a kid, I played shareware on old dos pc. Eventually played the full game and D2 on Win95 pc that had turbo button iirc. Played tnt and plutonia years later 04 on xp using Doom 95 (plutonia with keyktboard only is kinda hard)

Anonymous Wed Sep 15 03:12:42 2021 No.8139524
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Now that Quakespam-Spiked supports md3 (?) models has anyone gone and ripped all the rerelease ones in their native format? I'm using a mdl conversion pack but it's missing the fiend model.

Anonymous Wed Sep 15 03:17:37 2021 No.8139529

>>8139505
> it was graphically dated on launch

No it wasn't, saying it is is revisionism by people who weren't there and who think beginning of 1996 is the same as beginning of 1997. Quake came out 5 months after Duke3D, which is as much time some companies had to make a full game, and when it came out Quake was still exceptional, not the norm. That entire period of time was a tipping point especially for PC.

You can say it quickly become "dated" technically/graphically speaking, but saying "it already was at launch" is wrong.

and Duke3D was also loved for some of the advancements it made, which are related to technology. It's not that farfetched to think they'd want the same thing for the sequel. What made the PC crowd talk back then were the advancements games brought with them.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 15 03:18:43 2021 No.8139530 >>8139529 quake looks like shit compared to duke though

Anonymous Wed Sep 15 03:25:22 2021 No.8139534
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I've just recently started mapping for Quake after having released a fair few Doom mods and maps. I was struggling at first because I would start a map, get a design document together, make a custom texture wad then do a few rooms and lose steam. What ended up being the issue was that I was focusing too much on visuals and theme and not enough on architecture and gameplay so what I've done is started a map with just the prototype textures and it's flowing so much better than when I was sticking to a base theme.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 15 03:26:43 2021 No.8139538 File: 224 KB, 1024x768, sm206.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8139534 On a related note, sm206 is awesome - https://www.quaddicted.com/reviews/sm206.html I especially like sm206_burnham

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 15 03:40:23 2021 No.8139548 >>8139108 >Bungie are too busy chasing DestinyBux to make a full 3D modern graphical quality Marathon remake It'd fail dismally unless they got rid of all the terminals and replaced them with cutscenes, though. And then it's not even really Marathon.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 15 03:47:29 2021 No.8139556 >>8136242 DOOM is already an RPG, because you can switch weapons.

Anonymous Wed Sep 15 03:48:55 2021 No.8139559

>>8135330
>HALLOWEEN RESOURCES V3

-OTEX + some HexenTX doors Fixed
(NOTE: if you used some OTEX it might screw up some of your texturing, check your map again and reload/replace those textures)
-Custom Monsters updated.
-More spooky decorations + some orange and red grass flats added

Link:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1TK4hvU33gePBfZVmafAnSvD8Py9WDmDN/view

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 15 03:52:28 2021 No.8139564 >>8139209 >implying Kegan can alone save this cesspool I miss pre 2016

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 15 03:55:51 2021 No.8139569 >>8139450 What's your load order? You have to load the decorations last. Then they should all appear in the thing menu. If not, you need to place the Editor Numbers, no idea what the barrel is, 1015?

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 15 03:57:25 2021 No.8139571 >>8139559 Very nice. Is this now the final texture pack?

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 15 03:59:55 2021 No.8139575 I think it's time we all admit Duke Nukem is shit and we only liked it back then because we didn't have as much choice.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 15 04:13:04 2021 No.8139585 >>8139559 Oh, does this include all the new monster stuff and decorations and ambient sounds as well?

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 15 04:14:05 2021 No.8139586 >>8139575 >>8139530 Kill yourselves with a double-ended dragon dildo.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 15 04:19:00 2021 No.8139592 >>8138872 This footage is so perfect, but I wish you had the spritefix pack loaded so that the arch-vile's animations were properly centered.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 15 04:43:35 2021 No.8139618 >>8139538 The last dozen speedmap packs have been exceptional. Most of them don't really seem like "speed" maps, but perhaps the contributors/tools/workflows these days are just that good?

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 15 04:43:35 2021 No.8139619 File: 945 KB, 1600x1200, ah fuck you leatherman.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I got tired of waiting for youtube to process the HD version of this video, but have the latest GMOTA dev diary. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GYxISR9k9gw

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 15 04:45:54 2021 No.8139627 >>8138193 For me, it was DOSBox since I was finally getting around to properly play some DOS games... ~6-7 years ago, I believe. Somewhere around the time when I became the sole user of my current potato laptop.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 15 05:25:37 2021 No.8139664 >>8138193 Somebody mentioned HDoom and I tried it out. The more embarrassing part is for years I thought Freedoom was 1:1 copy of original Doom and I was playing the actual maps

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 15 05:30:36 2021 No.8139674 File: 1.17 MB, 1071x529, hulk.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Why the fuck did I work on a Doom map for 2 months and then nobody plays it? Brb killing myself.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 15 05:44:26 2021 No.8139698 >>8139674 Did you post it here?

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 15 05:48:08 2021 No.8139713 >>8139698 yes, was even in the new stuff section.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 15 05:57:28 2021 No.8139732 File: 101 KB, 600x500, oinf.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8139619 Damn dude, you went all out, good stuff.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 15 05:58:31 2021 No.8139734 >>8139674 Post it again, I'll play the fuck out of it

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 15 06:01:46 2021 No.8139742 >>8139734 https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/Ports/a-c/bigdill I've gotten zero feedback after 2 days, I guess I really chose the worst mapname ever.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 15 06:02:28 2021 No.8139743 >>8139713 >was even in the new stuff section lol I'm not even sure anyone reads the news, EVER.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 15 06:24:39 2021 No.8139786 >>8139619 It's looking really nice, Kegan. Hope I can make something this polished some day.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 15 06:42:37 2021 No.8139805 >>8138061 Put it in the middle you ponce

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 15 06:50:50 2021 No.8139814 >>8139163 >NO FUN ALLOWED

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 15 06:52:16 2021 No.8139817 >>8139814 >FINAL DESTINATION

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 15 06:52:30 2021 No.8139818 >>8139212 Looking good anon

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 15 06:53:49 2021 No.8139820 >>8139336 Sprint+lunge with the fist before the jump, helped me more than once during my E4 escapades.

Anonymous Wed Sep 15 06:54:44 2021 No.8139824

>>8139209
>>8139217
>>8139301
>>8139314
I'm going to be Kegan's ball and chain for this place, I'm not leaving, so that means he can't either.
I think he should play around with doing some Doom maps though, because it's fun and you learn a lot about gameplay and level design from it, he doesn't have to go to Doomworld for that.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 15 06:56:08 2021 No.8139827 File: 670 KB, 720x360, I must go, my planet needs me.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8139824 I tried making a map a few years ago.

Anonymous Wed Sep 15 06:57:09 2021 No.8139828

>>8138061
Nice. If you make a version which adds the total ammo counter on the right bottom, and a small row of numbers denoting which weapons you have, I think it'll be a great utilitarian HUD.

>>8139805
I like it better this way, lets you see more of the guns.

>>8139827
I'll teach you how, you nerd.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 15 06:57:29 2021 No.8139829 >>8139827 Cool, a reenactment of that one Half-Life segment with the rocket launch!

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 15 06:58:13 2021 No.8139830 >>8139619 Only thing I dislike about this is the sheer amount of sound FX you have blatantly stolen from other games.

Anonymous Wed Sep 15 07:00:19 2021 No.8139831
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>>8139827
This too.

>>8139830
Comes with the territory here, most Doom mods steal sounds from games. But at least I haven't used the fucking Doom 3 plasma rifle.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 15 07:01:26 2021 No.8139832 >>8139830 Complaining about stealing sound in a Doom thread is ironic

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 15 07:05:01 2021 No.8139842 >>8139831 Learn to do your own sound design/engineering. Not exactly rocket science. >>8139832 Nobody asked you.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 15 07:07:46 2021 No.8139848 >>8139842 Hey man that was rude, you're hurting my feelings

Anonymous Wed Sep 15 07:07:52 2021 No.8139850
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>>8139842
I'm not about to go back and make 300+ sounds for this gameplay mod, I'd like to finish this fucking thing sometime before the end of this decade. I'll be picking up making sounds myself for future standalone projects, but not for this. You're the first person I've ever seen complain about stolen sounds in a Doom mod, which is so fucking baffling that I'm convinced you're either not from around here or you're fucking with me.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 15 07:12:33 2021 No.8139859 >>8139842 >Learn to do your own sound design/engineering I am currently making a standalone with completely selfmade sounds. No amount of experience will help you if your equipment sucks, so fuck you. What are you even so butthurt about?

Anonymous Wed Sep 15 07:20:42 2021 No.8139869
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>>8139842
>Learn to do your own sound design/engineering
Why not just download a sound library and edit those instead? There are a ton of good ones out there like Spectrasonics.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 15 07:29:52 2021 No.8139884 >>8139842 It's a fucking Doom mod, shithead. Not exactly a commercial product.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 15 07:35:51 2021 No.8139892 >>8139850 Your problem. >>8139859 Not my problem. >>8139869 Licensing, costs. >>8139884 Nice excuse you amateur.

Anonymous Wed Sep 15 07:36:41 2021 No.8139894
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I'm so blueballed by Ion Fury Aftershock being delayed to 2022 gawdddd. On the plus side they're not rushing it out I guess.

What good retro FPS games are coming out soonish? Recently learnt about Cultic which could be alright except for the graphics which are a bit too "retro" intentionally.

Imagine getting a retro style shooter in the vein of Half Life Opposing Force / Soldier of Fortune where you go on military style missions with fast retro gunplay and satisfying guns that are mostly grounded to but not limited by realistic firearm selection.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 15 07:38:05 2021 No.8139896 >>8139892 Correction: Your problem. I'm not bothered by it, nor is anyone else here. That's the last (you) you're getting outta me, fartknocker.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 15 07:38:58 2021 No.8139898 >8139892 You don't even deserve a (you), self-righteous shitposting faggot. Go back to whatever hole you crawled out of, cockroach. Fuckin' nobody.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 15 07:39:51 2021 No.8139901 >>8139850 He's right tho. As an autistic audiophile and I think of hundred other games when I play Doom wads.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 15 07:41:10 2021 No.8139904 >>8139896 huh huh huh, buttmunch

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 15 07:41:17 2021 No.8139905 >>8139894 Okay, feels like you'e pushing the whole "hey let's talk about not-/vr/ games" thing. Go ask this shit on /v/. Have you seriously played through every good true retro fps? Play some wads or something.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 15 07:41:58 2021 No.8139909 >>8139898 I'm an audio engineer working in the movie industry in CA, YOU nobody. :P

Anonymous Wed Sep 15 07:44:11 2021 No.8139914

>>8139894
>Imagine getting a retro style shooter in the vein of Half Life Opposing Force / Soldier of Fortune where you go on military style missions with fast retro gunplay and satisfying guns that are mostly grounded to but not limited by realistic firearm selection.
Half-Life already has mods for this, some are ported to even Sven-coop

Anonymous Wed Sep 15 07:44:11 2021 No.8139915

>>8139901
and like I said earlier, that's the nature of the beast with Doom mods. I catch all those details with sound effects too, I just roll with it and when I use sounds I try to avoid shit that's overused in mods.
I've only done a handful of custom sounds I kitbashed together using Labchirp: The "voice" for Arti in Combined_Arms.

In the future I plan on figuring out how to make nice NES sounds using Famitracker.

Anonymous Wed Sep 15 07:45:33 2021 No.8139920

Sound fx are in a weird place where they're technically copyrighted, but nobody actually cares unless you're a desperate, money-grubbing whore like Tommy Tallarico who sued Roblox for the "oof" sound effect they pinched from a game he made 20 years ago.

Besides that, I've never heard of anyone getting slapped for using sound effects from other sources.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 15 07:47:57 2021 No.8139926 >>8139909 >I'm an audio engineer working in the movie industry in CA Oh so you're responsible for all movies sounding like SHIT? Neck yourself my dude.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 15 07:48:18 2021 No.8139927 >>8139920 Tommy is based. At least he has the credentials to back up bold moves like this.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 15 07:49:36 2021 No.8139932 >>8138193 my first time playing doom was through the flash version, i don't know if it was from prehacks site version or not, afterwards my proper venture was i think it was on 2014 or 15 when i tried Brutal doom.

Anonymous Wed Sep 15 07:49:40 2021 No.8139935
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>>8139905
I'm not "pushing" anything, I post maybe a few times a day. I've been recently playing a bunch of /vr/ games and the thread's generally been friendly to newer games in said style and gameplay.

>have you seriously played through every good true retro fps?
Well recently I plowed through Half Life, SoF, RTCW and Duke Nukem + expansions, been playing Shadow Warrior, DOOM 1 and most of 2, I bought Blood, on the fence about Redneck Rampage so most of the good ones I can think of. SiN is also on the "to play" list.
Probably going to skip out on Strife and Chasm the Rift.

>go ask on /v/
Going there at all is a mistake..I'm not trying to push an agenda on the thread or anything, just been trying to enjoy what's been out there and most of the time people have been okay with the occasional Ion Fury post etc.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 15 07:51:17 2021 No.8139942 >>8139905 >play wads or something >>8139935

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 15 07:52:18 2021 No.8139947 >>8139932 Did it run horribly or was it actually smooth?

Anonymous Wed Sep 15 07:54:06 2021 No.8139949

>>8139894
>Imagine getting a retro style shooter in the vein of Half Life Opposing Force / Soldier of Fortune where you go on military style missions with fast retro gunplay and satisfying guns that are mostly grounded to but not limited by realistic firearm selection.
That's the problem, everyone is doing doom/wolfenstein clones, maybe stuff like dusk or HROT, but no one does idtech 2 like games

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 15 07:55:37 2021 No.8139953 >>8139932 I only know of the Newgrounds shareware flash version, other than the controls it was very much playable.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 15 07:59:44 2021 No.8139968 >>8139850 Do you consider ever recruiting someone for help with shit like that? I'd understand if you didn't if you don't like people shitting up your own vision

Anonymous Wed Sep 15 08:03:34 2021 No.8139982
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>>8139949
>no one does idtech 2 like games
Give it time, there'll be idtech 2, goldsrc and idtech 3 engine modern retro games as well for sure.

And hopefully Build Engine gets more love as well. But I'm hopeful for the future and there are of course the countless mods / wads to play here and there.

>>8139942
Probably playing something like Half Life Echoes and They Hunger but yeah, we shall see.

Anonymous Wed Sep 15 08:04:16 2021 No.8139984

>>8139968
That's a massive time sink and I'm wary of putting my progress in the hands of someone else. I nearly died while waiting for Kustam's player sprites back in 2019. Appendicitis is a bitch.

Plus I think it's overkill to get custom Foley sounds and shit for a Doom mod. Especially when I'm so deep into stolen sounds at this point. I'd need someone who could make good custom SNES sounds, good custom NES sounds, and good custom Genesis sounds.
At that point I'd be brain damaged to dedicate that much time and effort into something that specific.
I'll keep saying it: For the mods? Fuck no. For my future standalone projects? Yes.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 15 08:06:55 2021 No.8139992 >>8139894 I’d rather get a clone of Perfect Dark and its openended level design emphasis.

Anonymous Wed Sep 15 08:37:41 2021 No.8140030
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>>8139742
Its okay aesthetic wise - not bad not great. I like the structure of the level - those loops where you come back to start of the level or any significant landmark you been to before - keep making shit like that
As for gameplay - the first couple rooms are tiring because you have nothing but your peashooter and you have to get through some sponge enemies(caco, revenant, hell even that one chaingunner feels a bit spongy when you have only a pistol) just to get chaingun and regular shotgun, and the ammo feels very tight - after that it picks up I guess and the tempo of gaining new weapons - ssg, rlauncher and plasma - feels just right and even those early phases from the big sewer room on when you have just sg and chaingun are nice to play because you have the right amount of ammo. Overall its a decent level, keep making maps and improving yourself anon

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>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 15 08:40:03 2021 No.8140036 >>8140035 walled up alive in the wine cellar what a way to go SCHLORP SCHLORP SCHLORP

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 15 08:49:20 2021 No.8140057 >>8140035 >GDXing Very nice

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 15 08:58:04 2021 No.8140072 >>8139947 I don't remember if i am being honest. >>8139953 Thing is, i don't even remember if it was even hacked...

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 15 09:00:45 2021 No.8140080 >>8140036 NEMO ME IMPUNE LACESSIT

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 15 09:10:03 2021 No.8140093 the first time I played quake was in sven co-op lmao, there's a quake mapset that gives you quake guns etc you guys ever play that?

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 15 09:29:57 2021 No.8140142 >>8139585 Yes

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 15 09:30:42 2021 No.8140147 >>8139674 If you do not get any enjoyment from mapping itself, it might not be your thing. Always map to satisfy your own creativity. If your only reason to map is to get someone play it, the map is bound to fail.

Anonymous Wed Sep 15 09:51:29 2021 No.8140219

>>8140030
Thanks anon, I wanted to go away from the usual grab the shotgun formula of other maps for this one. But either way, there is a secret room at the start of the map that opens a slightly different path with a shotgun. Press one of the green buttons in the orange room and a wall opens.

>>8140147
Mapping is fun at the moment you do it, but later you feel terrible when you realize that seemingly nobody wants to play it. At the same time, when I used to draw, I was constantly angry while working on it and after I released it I didn't care anymore.

Anonymous Wed Sep 15 10:15:16 2021 No.8140284

>>8140219
I reckon it has to do with there simply being new WADs being made all the time and sometimes you can get lost in the crowd. Try not to let it discourage ya too much, anon. Mappers like you making your creations and handing 'em out for free with a smile is badass.

Anonymous Wed Sep 15 10:15:52 2021 No.8140287

>>8139842
Stealing sound effects from other commercial games is a time honored tradition for Doom modding (and other game modding), partially it's because good sounds which are free aren't widely available, and partially it's because of how many projects are stylistic pastiches of the other games which influence them. Since it's all free shit done not for profit, but for the love and enthusiasm of it, there's nothing bad about it.

If you don't like stolen assets, then go and enjoy FreeDoom, you hapless zoomer loser.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 15 10:19:16 2021 No.8140293 >>8140287 too bad they always choose the loudes, most annoying and noisiest sounds that make you want to go deaf after 15 minutes of playing.

Anonymous Wed Sep 15 10:21:41 2021 No.8140296

>>8139901
Sounds like a personal problem to me. You're free to make your own sounds for other people's mods if it bothers you a lot.

>>8139920
In Tommy's defense, they were using his sound design in their commercial product, Roblox makes money with in-game purchases. If it was just some popular but free mod for like Minecraft, he probably wouldn't give a shit.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 15 10:26:05 2021 No.8140313 >>8140293 Haven't had that problem with most mods. For stuff like GzDoom mods this is easy to address.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 15 10:55:25 2021 No.8140386 >>8139571 I guess the Textures are definitely done at this point unless someone else wants to suggest something, but I'll keep updating some decorations and graphics.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 15 11:09:09 2021 No.8140410 File: 2.03 MB, 1280x720, Replay_2021-09-15_10-56-33.mkv.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Neat. What are some other good applications for steroids? I don't use them nearly enough for how frequently they're given.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 15 11:14:07 2021 No.8140421 >>8140410 With stereoids you can beat that map in sub 15 seconds IIRC, in the World Tour developer commentary mode they actually talk about it

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 15 11:24:30 2021 No.8140446 File: 81 KB, 570x456, 1608103194494.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] What is dehacked in brainlet terms?

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 15 11:27:33 2021 No.8140457 >>8140410 When under Steroids, the Mighty Boot does shitloads of damage, kinda like Doom's Berserk Pack, but timed.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 15 11:29:54 2021 No.8140463 Sneed tranny sneed zoomie zoom zoom zoomers cope seething ywnbaw

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 15 11:32:52 2021 No.8140469 >>8140446 You see that car over there? You can change the color, tires, speedometer scale, seats, acceleration, horse power, stuff like that. You can even give it a propeller, provided you have a plane you can take the propeller from.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 15 11:34:32 2021 No.8140473 >supposed to work on my map >instead zoom around in automap mode because I need to autistically control every single linedef that appears in the automap AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 15 11:37:05 2021 No.8140479 >>8140446 It's a format to change carious hardcoded parameters. It started as copyright friendly way to modify doom and expanded over time.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 15 12:04:41 2021 No.8140531 >>8140457 I always had a feeling steroids added to mighty foot's damage, but that seemed like a "running while punching in Doom does more damage" thing so I never put it to test

Anonymous Wed Sep 15 12:09:34 2021 No.8140540

>>8138193
For some fucked up reason they taught us to code in ms-dos in programming class in third grade or something. That's when I had my first taste of Doom, somewhere around 2005-2009. Everything was outdated, we played on these old keyboards, mice with balls and CRTs.
I think it was a custom level, maybe Plutonia. Didn't know shit, no mouselook, probably HMP, pistol start. I started in a room with zombies and there was a caco in the next room that I had to kill with a pistol. It was fucking terrifying, I was really scared.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 15 12:13:57 2021 No.8140550 >>8135329 https://twitter.com/letshugbro/status/1438110445613760513 gib the witch in Doom II: English on Earth

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 15 12:19:53 2021 No.8140563 >>8139015 i fucking love skub fuck you retard i bet you jack off every night into a sock and cry like the skubless fag you are

Anonymous Wed Sep 15 12:20:56 2021 No.8140568
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>>8098885
>>8099047
>>8102705
Almost two weeks ago I've asked here some dumb shit about Quake modding. Kind of promised to share some kind of proper concept for the mod here to get some feedback from fellow anons: advices, opinions, etc. Why? Idea for this mod came up to me from talking to people here, so it just feels right to (maybe) start from here.
I hope that my mess is somewhat readable, so you can tell me why I'm an idiot who shouldn't even bother trying or something along those lines. Looking forward for some brutal honestly from anons. Thank you.
https://ilkohall.blogspot.com/2021/09/revitalized-concept-for-trial-of-runes.html

Anonymous Wed Sep 15 12:21:19 2021 No.8140569 [DELETED]

>>8140550
What is it with this meme about Margret Thatcher, anyway? All I know is that she was a shitty politician of some kind, but so many people these days act like she was evil incarnate for some reason even though she's been dead/irrelevant for years now.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 15 12:28:56 2021 No.8140587 >>8140569 Anyone to your political right is literally Hitler

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 15 12:45:43 2021 No.8140613 File: 467 KB, 661x623, 1630966116490.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8140457

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 15 13:00:43 2021 No.8140645 File: 1.46 MB, 1920x1080, Gzdoom Screenshot 2021.09.15 - 11.58.22.29.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] This is a bad idea isn't it?

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 15 13:01:05 2021 No.8140647 >>8140550 holy shit this looks great

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 15 13:02:20 2021 No.8140650 >>8140645 WHAT COULD POSSIBLY GO WRONG?

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 15 13:05:11 2021 No.8140660 >>8140645 >at least 4 incoming imp volleys Oh my

Anonymous Wed Sep 15 13:07:19 2021 No.8140667

>>8140386
>>8135330
I just noticed that the texture "ADEL_B19" (an embrasure) is not only 80 units wide, but also offset from the center. No idea why, but it looks really weird. I made a centered 64x64 version.
Also, I saw you resized DOORW03. I think we have enough 64x128 doors. I made a few variations.
One is basically just the 96px wide scaled to 64px, but with the correct aspect ratio to a size of 64x80.
One has just an empty space to the right to bring it to 128px wide so it should now tile normally.
The last one is a 96x96 version which looks weird, but might not look as weird in-game.
Would be cool if you put at least one of them in.

https://files.catbox.moe/cumt18.zip

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 15 13:15:21 2021 No.8140697 >>8139732 luv me shuriken luv me sailor babes luv me nuclear warheads ate zilla ate coolies simple as

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 15 13:16:29 2021 No.8140704 >>8140697 >coolies It was a different time

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 15 13:31:48 2021 No.8140751 >>8140568 Well, the mod sounds cool on paper. If theres anything to criticize, its that you write a lot more than what's necessary.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 15 13:36:41 2021 No.8140759 What are the best patches for Deus Ex Invisible War?

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 15 13:46:41 2021 No.8140780 >>8140759 you'd probably have better answers on deus ex related questions on >>>/vrpg/

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 15 13:47:52 2021 No.8140783 >>8140759 The uninstall patch

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 15 13:56:52 2021 No.8140824 >>8140645 Wait is this possible?

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 15 14:01:23 2021 No.8140840 boom is short for brutal doom right?

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 15 14:03:05 2021 No.8140847 File: 1.65 MB, 1920x1080, spasm0000.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Anyway to stop the messages from looking like this? Just started happening recently?

Anonymous Wed Sep 15 14:07:28 2021 No.8140871

>>8140751
>Well, the mod sounds cool on paper.
Really? Thanks. Even though that can be said about a lot of things, but I'm probably just being too harsh on myself at this point. Besides my unreliability when it comes to proper commitment, one thing that does get me worried with starting out is raising ambitions. Like, I already had some dumb and really unnecessary ideas that just sound cool (to me). I guess that's a good motive to set up limits for myself.
>If theres anything to criticize, its that you write a lot more than what's necessary.
Yeah, I have an issue with that occasionally. Although this time around I kind of less myself loose to make sure I properly present the general idea, so it's really on me. My apologies.
I am really overthinking the "oh, a lot of it is just borrowing ideas from elsewhere" argument, yeah? I know it's not that big of a deal in high scheme of things, but it still slightly bothers me for whatever reason.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 15 14:07:30 2021 No.8140872 >>8140296 >>8140287 Can you shut up please

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 15 14:08:23 2021 No.8140878 >>8140872 why did you reply 4 hours old posts with this

Anonymous Wed Sep 15 14:08:54 2021 No.8140883
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>>8140697
>nuclear warheads
Is there any good usage for those? Basically the nukes seem like there's never enough enemies around to warrant using 'em and when you'd think of using one you're likely to die with the enemies.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 15 14:09:07 2021 No.8140889 >>8140847 which version of quakespasm are you using?

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 15 14:09:16 2021 No.8140890 File: 1 KB, 32x32, OSIGIL.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8140667 >>8135330 Also, could you please add a blue sigil? We already have a red and orange/yellow one, so I think a blue one would be a nice addition.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 15 14:09:29 2021 No.8140893 >>8140840 no, boom is what happens when a demon refuses sex with you.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 15 14:11:32 2021 No.8140898 >>8140883 Theyre a good way to take out mini-sumos. Just duck into cover before it detonates and youll be fine.

Anonymous Wed Sep 15 14:12:30 2021 No.8140902

>>8140883
Man I was really fucking disappointed with the ending. its not that the wave of enemies are bad, and the gimmick awful. Its a fine fight.

There is zero fucking satisfaction from the ending, like a couple of very shit art pics and credits roll. Its as soulless as shelly and bald dude.

I have zero expectations from the expansion.

Anonymous Wed Sep 15 14:12:57 2021 No.8140903

>>8140883
It's an ammo that one shots whole group of enemies, of course there are uses of it. IIRC the main campaign gives you a little bit over 20 of them over 24 maps? I used one every time I found a new one, just went to a place full of enemies, used it then went back and picked up the new one.
To not die just LOS it

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 15 14:13:37 2021 No.8140904 >>8140889 0.94.1, seems to only be a problem in expansions. The base game displays correctly.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 15 14:16:12 2021 No.8140907 >>8140883 They’re there to skip encounters or in case you goof with ammo. Great against bees.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 15 14:17:47 2021 No.8140909 >>8140904 I’m not aware of any non-official ports that have the messages display correctly in the new episode.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 15 14:18:00 2021 No.8140912 >>8140907 Gas grenades are also good against hornets and more common

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 15 14:24:22 2021 No.8140931 Do you replay whole Strife for other route or use save when you have to choose who you trust?

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 15 14:26:16 2021 No.8140936 >>8140931 I replayed the entire game. Strife's pretty easy for me and I can speedrun the first act of the game.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 15 14:28:05 2021 No.8140940 File: 88 KB, 1280x720, leatherman.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8140872

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 15 14:30:15 2021 No.8140950 >>8140936 I have played for the first time. I had trouble in the last part before the final but I enjoyed the mystery ending. I guess I wil replay the whole for the other route.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 15 14:32:47 2021 No.8140962 >>8140950 What ending is that? Is that the one where Blackbird is evil and humanity's future is uncertain? If so you missed out on a good one third of the game so definitely give it another go.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 15 14:40:37 2021 No.8140984 >>8140962 Yes and I looked up that it skips the part of the game. Ok, thanks.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 15 15:00:26 2021 No.8141030 >>8140883 Boss killers & crowd control

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 15 15:07:20 2021 No.8141039 >>8135330 The Rocket With Legs stopped working for some reason. Here's a quick fix, it adds a single still frame to the melee state before exploding. Not something you'd notice in gameplay. https://pastebin.com/kPdryUgv

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 15 15:23:34 2021 No.8141093 hdest lost civ coop continues map 3 now streaming

Anonymous Wed Sep 15 15:27:45 2021 No.8141110

>>8138193
big brother introduced me to MS-DOS gaming around 94/95. I kept watching him until he started Command & Conquer, I was so fascinated by it that I asked him if I could play it, and that's how I got to play Doom. We played Co-Op over IPX and it was the most fascinating shit ever. I was 6 at the time.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 15 15:38:07 2021 No.8141140 It's out https://youtube.com/watch?v=RhMLxZKvB2c

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 15 15:48:06 2021 No.8141161 Playing through the new Quake episode and, outside of Arcane Dimensions, I'm finally having fun with Quake. This normal?

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 15 15:48:49 2021 No.8141162 >>8140904 do you have the kpf in the folder?

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 15 15:50:50 2021 No.8141164 File: 40 KB, 500x523, kate disgusted.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8141161 >fun You sick fucking freak

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 15 15:51:09 2021 No.8141165 >>8141161 >I'm finally having fun with Quake. >This normal? No. People usually have fun with the earlier episodes, too.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 15 15:52:55 2021 No.8141171 >>8141140 >Civvie No thanks, I'm not giving clicks to that cripple, just as I won't give any to GGGman"tumro-sized ego"lives.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 15 16:11:21 2021 No.8141214 >>8141171 What kind of cripple is he? Also he's cool, what's the problem.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 15 16:17:23 2021 No.8141229 Newbie here, what does "Pass use action" on a linedef mean?

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 15 16:18:33 2021 No.8141232 >>8141161 well they're better than the campaign you should have played scourge of armagon though

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 15 16:21:45 2021 No.8141241 File: 1.76 MB, 1000x563, 1481536961900.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 15 16:22:03 2021 No.8141242 >>8141214 I don't really see the point of posting publicly available videos. Anyone who cares about civvie wouldn't be checking here for new videos. Now, posting them before they're even out, that's a different story and I highly encourage it.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 15 16:22:24 2021 No.8141245 File: 147 KB, 57x70, 1628869754881.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8141241

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 15 16:27:06 2021 No.8141258 >>8141229 Normally your use action stops that the first line that has an action associated with it. This toggle should prevent the situation where you can't open a door because there's another (Already open) or something.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 15 16:56:48 2021 No.8141340 >>8141241 spike mines are bullshit.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 15 17:12:38 2021 No.8141392 File: 2.96 MB, 640x480, dance and doom.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] God damn it. I just can't like Doom. I respect it, but I don't love it. >just don't play it duh But I want to! But I don't like it... Infuriating.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 15 17:14:35 2021 No.8141404 >>8141392 What don't you like about it Anon? Maybe there's a mod or wad you will like better.

Anonymous Wed Sep 15 17:16:59 2021 No.8141415

>>8141404
Every time I play the IWADs it's so boring. Every time I think I'll give it another chance and Doom 1 bores me to tears.
Plus guns don't feel real since they're sprites, no matter how good they sound. And you're shooting at sprites too, only so much you can do with those. I found some enjoyment with HDest but got bored quick after a dozen or so of Doom II's levels.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 15 17:18:32 2021 No.8141423 >>8141415 Please leave, thank you. >>>/v/

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 15 17:21:23 2021 No.8141429 >>8141423 Oh hush you knee jerk (You) giver. What triggered this response? I didn't mean to bait or troll or whatever the hip word is anymore.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 15 17:23:22 2021 No.8141437 >>8141429 I'm not giving (You) since I don't bump. Be on your way >>>/v/

Anonymous Wed Sep 15 17:25:06 2021 No.8141448
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>>8141415
Not sure what to tell you, anon. Because the 3D model replacements made for Doom are fucking ugly.
You should learn to appreciate sprites. 2D sprite art is lovely.

Anonymous Wed Sep 15 17:26:02 2021 No.8141453

Anybody know if the sc 55 sound font works with 3dge? It looks good and everything but the sound isnt so great imo. Also how to get it work ? Gzdoom put it in the sound font folder. Then select fluid ssynth.

With 3dge would I just drop the sc 55 in the 3dge folder and itll be a selectable midi option in the 3dge sound menu ??

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 15 17:26:32 2021 No.8141454 >>8141415 I feel the opposite an I dont even play doom these days as well. But weapons in eternal feel more wimpy than 2D ones, especially mods.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 15 17:30:52 2021 No.8141467 >>8135326 Honestly, Halligan...

Anonymous Wed Sep 15 17:33:58 2021 No.8141473

>>8141448
Yeah, I realize 3D models in Doom suck, but that's the weird thing, I love Blood despite it being all sprites in that department as well. Maybe it's the level design that bugs me. Feels primitive, but maybe that's just mark of the times. Any wads that have something a bit more intricate to show me the light?
>>8141454
I thought nu-doom would be more fun since a lot of people I know enjoyed it, but eh, the whole game kind of went in one ear and went out the other and I barely noticed. Any weapon mods you would suggest, or do you enjoy just the vanilla arsenal that much?
@8141437
Maybe you should go to /v/ if all you wanna do is pretend sage is a downvote

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 15 17:35:38 2021 No.8141480 >>8141473 You can always play stuff like ashes2063 or wtv. You dont have to love doom anon. As I said I barely play it these days. But it is a really solid game.

Anonymous Wed Sep 15 17:38:22 2021 No.8141487

>>8141473
Oh, well yeah stock Doom and Doom 2 levels are gonna show their age for sure with their more simplistic designs. If you're wanting something a little more elaborate, you could check out Sucker Punch 1 and 2. You could also check out Back to Saturn X and Going Down. Both of those have levels with a lot more going on.

If you wanna suffer you could try HD combined with Fragport.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 15 17:38:51 2021 No.8141490 File: 2.86 MB, 532x300, doom 2.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 15 17:39:11 2021 No.8141491 File: 230 KB, 220x155, 1610900420010.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8141241

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 15 17:41:04 2021 No.8141498 >>8141480 >>8141487 I'll check these out, thanks! I know I don't have to love it, but it will keep nagging at me until I feel I've exhausted enough it has to offer, modding and mapping included.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 15 17:50:34 2021 No.8141535 >>8141415 Well, how do you feel about Quake? Spiritually it's very much aligned with Doom, I feel. Just if Doom was all hell and no sci-fi. We can't all like everything, and that's okay.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 15 17:55:14 2021 No.8141551 >>8141415 The original campaigns are honestly shit, especially Doom 1, despite what this jerk-off general says. Play the community made stuff. My fave is Valiant. If you don't like that, then yeah, Doom isn't for you.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 15 17:59:06 2021 No.8141561 >>8141242 He plays the Steam version. What a faggot.

Anonymous Wed Sep 15 17:59:13 2021 No.8141562

I am having a weird problem with my halloween map.
MBF21, testing with DSDA, all to specification.
So far everything has worked well. However, I seem to have passed some limit, dunno if linedefs or sectors or vertices or whatever, that now I can randomly clip through stuff and not interact with or activate any line actions anymore. Deleting a chunk of the level alleviates that, but that can't be a solution.
I don't even know what to google.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 15 18:03:07 2021 No.8141568 >>8141562 There's like, 64000 or so maximum coordinate difference. The power of 2. You might've pushed something too far beyond, bring it closer.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 15 18:03:14 2021 No.8141569 >>8141535 I liked Quake's atmosphere, but the arsenal felt a bit underwhelming. I would've liked AD better if it had Doom tier weapons, but it was great as is. Grenade/rocket launcher as the workhorse instead of the shotgun just feels off.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 15 18:03:44 2021 No.8141570 Civvie plays the Steam versions.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 15 18:08:00 2021 No.8141579 >>8141415 >I found some enjoyment with HDest but got bored quick after a dozen or so of Doom II's levels. you are unironically the target audience for brutal doom alternatively, try a good gameplay & maps wad like Paradise

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 15 18:08:04 2021 No.8141580 >>8141568 Huh shit that seemed to be it. Thanks anon.

Anonymous Wed Sep 15 18:12:19 2021 No.8141590

>>8141579
That's funny, I didn't enjoy Brutal Doom very much. Adding Paradise to the list then.
The reason I got bored with Doom II HDest is because of how much meat there is to wade through, which fair enough, balance was never a promise, or maybe I'm just not good enough yet. The four Doom episodes were fine with it though.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 15 18:12:31 2021 No.8141592 File: 288 KB, 1024x1544, 1630520257936.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8138790 >who started all the way over from square one every single time These are from 2002. Look familiar?

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 15 18:15:23 2021 No.8141601 Why are you still using the tnt31.wad patch instead of the id anthology iwads?

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 15 18:29:05 2021 No.8141639 File: 26 KB, 680x447, mah nigga.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8140613 >Someone saved my edit

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 15 18:29:52 2021 No.8141640 File: 1.08 MB, 2400x3048, 20210915_172913.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Will Thatcher's Techbase be good?

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 15 18:38:05 2021 No.8141652 >>8141640 Man, Brits seriously need to let go

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 15 18:45:57 2021 No.8141674 >>8141640 milk woman bad

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 15 18:49:06 2021 No.8141684 >>8141640 the levels in the trailer looked fun it's a good thematic choice too since the british are a lot like demons

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 15 18:52:42 2021 No.8141701 >>8141652 If you had been fucked this hard you would remember for life

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 15 18:53:28 2021 No.8141703 >>8141640 who was she again?

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 15 18:56:01 2021 No.8141712 >>8141640 Paging news post >>8135329 https://twitter.com/letshugbro/status/1438110445613760513 Say, is this gonna be doom twitter's first wad they can claim as their own?

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 15 19:01:05 2021 No.8141732 >>8141703 The British Prime minister in the 80s.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 15 19:05:25 2021 No.8141745 >>8140909 vkQuake works, you just have to copy a file from the rerelease

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 15 19:11:28 2021 No.8141764 >>8141732 So like, 40 years ago? Kek. Boomers, man.

Anonymous Wed Sep 15 19:12:35 2021 No.8141770 [DELETED]

>>8139347
>The idea is to spawn the satyrs behind the player to push them into the mancubus
There's dropoffs to the left and the right, 99% of players will hear a teleport behind them and run off one of these edges to retreat and reassess the situation, particularly with an enemy as dangerous up close as the satyr.
For the other suggestions, I appreciate them, but the map really only needs tweaking here and there, not a complete overhaul. This has been germinating in my mind for a year now

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 15 19:17:09 2021 No.8141784 >>8141640 >>8141712 It's got a lot of style but does it have substance. >>8141703 Dude I ain't from Britain and I know who she is.

Anonymous Wed Sep 15 19:18:21 2021 No.8141791

I recall that Doom character and enemy sprites have a name format of XXXX1A or something
If an entity has sprites with a different formet, such as Shotgunner1A instead of 4 characters, would that lead to some problems?
Is it mandatory that actor sprites have that specific type of filename?

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 15 19:19:58 2021 No.8141794 >>8141791 Yes. Zdoom ports outright prevent you from using more than 4 characters for the sprite names.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 15 19:34:24 2021 No.8141834 >>8141794 >Zdoom ports outright prevent you from using more than 4 characters for the sprite names. Is this for the sake of compatibility? This is one of the most annoying things about working with GZDoom.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 15 19:38:52 2021 No.8141843 File: 30 KB, 285x310, 1619060575998.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8141640 I keep my Doom and politics separate, thank you.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 15 19:45:20 2021 No.8141864 >>8141764 Shut the fuck up zoom zoom

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 15 19:48:30 2021 No.8141870 File: 34 KB, 256x256, riker.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8141703 >Yank education

Anonymous Wed Sep 15 19:51:36 2021 No.8141876
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>>8141592
If they'd stuck to finishing this version I think it at the very least would've been better than Sin and on par with stuff Raven was putting out during that time, purely as a shooter I mean. All the tech and interactivity they were seemingly trying to cram into it on the other hand would've been mindblowing if it came out in say 03. That way they also would've pre-empted Doom 3 and HL2 and maybe even incidentally made them turn out for the better in an attempt to one up DNF, instead Broussard had to go and be a fucking imbecile.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 15 19:58:49 2021 No.8141909 >>8141870 Why should I care about some island that is smaller than Colorado? Stop pretending you're relevant, my dude.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 15 20:00:29 2021 No.8141917 >>8141640 I don't want to go full schizo, but I'm a bit suspicious of how this popped up out of nowhere with so much press coverage. Oh well, I'll probably play it anyway. Out of curiosity if nothing else.

Anonymous Wed Sep 15 20:07:59 2021 No.8141945

>>8136517
> From the first level I am having not even Hexen (intro there was beautiful), but Witchaven vibes - nice clean graphics and the samey wall textures everywhere.

This impression stays the same after second level - Hedon is a Witchaven done at scale. It is not even close to Hexen's diversity in art styles. It feels like 3 types of room textures are used everywhere, environment is very samey, at the same time it feel consistent and organic. Even caves remind Witchhaven caves/corridors in shape. I actually quite liked the game, art style is clean and neat, there are a lot of nice minor touches with additional sprites, map progression is logical, music matches the gameplay well, surprisingly I liked the story and the way how it is told through notes - it is not edgy and reminds classic dark-fantasy things like Black Company in atmosphere.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 15 20:14:28 2021 No.8141962 File: 70 KB, 704x704, doom3guy.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8141467

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 15 20:14:47 2021 No.8141964 >>8141640 >TFW there's a Thatcher's Techbase, MOONMAN.WAD, but no Dan's Dungeon WAD of any kind where you have to rescue kids and teens who worked on Nickelodeon from Dan Schneider and his Studio Cronies.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 15 20:16:59 2021 No.8141972 >>8141964 Stand by

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 15 20:22:27 2021 No.8141986 >>8141834 What do you mean compatibility? It's how sprites are named. I don't know of any instance where they weren't named like that. And if you can't adhere to that, it's obviously a (You) problem.

Anonymous Wed Sep 15 20:27:20 2021 No.8142000
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>>8141986
>And if you can't adhere to that, it's obviously a (You) problem.
I can do that just fine, you passive aggressive fudge packer. I'm just wondering why sprites still have to adhere to a 4 character limit. The most likely answer is facing angles and directions are tied directly to this file name format and it would probably be too much work to decouple them, if it's possible in the first place.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 15 20:30:50 2021 No.8142007 >>8142000 Don't get your panties in a twist. There a a million tutorials on sprites and the page on the ZDoom wiki has everything you need to know. Also, I am not passive aggressive, I am outright aggressive, you nonce.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 15 20:31:15 2021 No.8142008 File: 1.53 MB, 717x988, cgwe31.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Anyone have a mirror for this? http://quakeone.com/forum/quake-mod-releases/works-in-progress/9842-authentic-model-improvement

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 15 20:35:01 2021 No.8142019 >>8142000 If I'm remembering right, there was some 8 character limit for files in DOS, which is why Doom's various lumps (E1M1, VERTEXES, BLOCKMAP, HEADA2A8 etc.) are all under or at 8 letters. This limitation is likely kept for what you said

Anonymous Wed Sep 15 20:38:23 2021 No.8142032
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>tfw you realize the outside area you are building for your level is bigger than some actual levels.
I mean, I think when I'm done, it will look really cool, but I already have no ideas what to do there. I actually wanted the action to really start only in the castle, but then I have an empty outside area, which is pretty boring.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 15 20:39:34 2021 No.8142037 >>8142008 Which is better? These, or the new Kex models? ...or the original low poly fuckers?

Anonymous Wed Sep 15 20:45:54 2021 No.8142056

>>8142032
Create pits, trenches and small underground sections around the castle. Have the player navigate through it while keeping the castle within view, they'll realize that is their eventual destination, and they'll be determined to make it inside after finally completing the outdoor section.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 15 20:54:20 2021 No.8142072 >>8142032 Lookin' good. You don't have to fill the outside with enemies, it can be pretty open

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 15 20:55:15 2021 No.8142078 >>8142008 ufile.io/s48kfy06 I've got some zips of various revisions for what might be this

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 15 20:55:22 2021 No.8142080 >>8142032 Hundreds of Cacodemons.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 15 21:23:16 2021 No.8142142 >>8142032 a single imp

Anonymous Wed Sep 15 21:33:51 2021 No.8142170

>>8142019
Yeah 8 character plus 3 for an extension was the limit for names. Windows still has a weird thing in it for backwards compatibility with that.
I think it depends on the exact settings on your filesystem, long filenames have an alternate filename of the form FILENA~1.EXT FILENA~2.EXT etc.
For example "C:\PROGRA~2\STEAM\STEAMA~1" is a valid alternate path for the steamapps folder for me

>>8142032
Looks pretty cool already
>>8142056
This sounds good, my thinking is the most important thing is avoid making it feel like a featureless plane.

Just spitballing here:
At the very least a couple of small elevation changes or trees or something that block movement,
so you don't just move in a perfectly straight line towards the door.
Maybe a simple maze or keycard hunt, something that's fast to do when you know where to go but first time players have the feeling of poking around for a tiny bit.
Maybe spawn on the opposite side of the castle from the door, so you have to make a horseshoe shaped walk around it?

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 15 22:16:33 2021 No.8142263 >>8142032 The castle is composed of floor sectors, how do you plan on having an interior?

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 15 22:30:39 2021 No.8142305 >>8142263 Maybe he's planning to use a silent teleport into a different sector?

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 15 23:32:37 2021 No.8142517 >>8138193 Downloaded a Doom SNES ROM circa 2002, discovered you couldn't slide across walls, said "People think this garbage is better than Marathon?" and quit. Around 2004 I downloaded the DOS version, played it on DOSBox, and had a bit more fun.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 15 23:38:39 2021 No.8142531 >>8140531 >"running while punching in Doom does more damage" Marathonchads win again

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 15 23:57:05 2021 No.8142596 NEW THREAD >>8142584 >>8142584 >>8142584

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 16 00:18:55 2021 No.8142652 File: 958 KB, 631x879, HLcgw157.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8142078 >ufile.io/s48kfy06 Mint, chur

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 16 01:07:16 2021 No.8142774 >>8142463 shit posting is against the rules, posting offtopic things is against the rules. replying to either of those? also grounds for deletion. stop complaining, you didn't even get banned. cry baby.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 16 05:35:59 2021 No.8143087 >>8142032 Sick.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 16 10:02:03 2021 No.8143528 >>8140568 If it comes to fruition ill be keen to play it. >target quake enhanced Quake enhanced should be generally compatible with existing mods afaik, it would support achievements and fancy dynamic light effects.

Anonymous Thu Sep 16 11:16:13 2021 No.8143685

>>8141652
>Brits

I'd hardly call labour voters Brits.

>>8141917
> I'm a bit suspicious of how this popped up out of nowhere with so much press coverage.

You are completely right to be.

https://forum.zdoom.org/search.php?keywords=thatcher&sid=d33efb25bf0c6e8eead44bd39ce00904

https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/124565-thatchers-techbase-a-boom-wad-by-3d-doom-daddy-digital-releasing-september-24th/?tab=comments#comment-2385651

Its popularity hasn't come from within the Doom community. It is therefore 100% manufactured by the media. How did the media find it? I'm guessing the guy who made it, who has the hubris to call himself the 'Director', simply sent out a raft of emails and they jumped on it because lefists are still seething about Thatcher 30 years after she left office and almost 10 years after she died.

Very few doom mods get any mainstream press coverage, but this one instantly got reported on by just about every meanstream gaming publication within the space of 24 hours, and it's not even a technically impressive or remotely groundbreaking wad. It is, however, one that that panders to left wing politics.

>I don't want to go full schizo

You ain't schizo, bro. You are accurately percieving the objective reality. Don't forget it.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 16 11:49:46 2021 No.8143760 File: 622 KB, 1080x1517, Screenshot_20210916-104818_Gmail.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] That dumb character set screwed up my rss feed, so I'm not playing the wad out of annoyance.

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