Best Win XP games?

[Anonymous No.8132041]

There are a few games that are a bitch to get running correctly on Win 10 / wine (original Rainbow Six Rogue Spear series) so I got a couple old Thinkpads and put Windows XP (aka best Windows) on them.

What other games should I load on these chunky motherfuckers? Preferably single player games or games that are fun 2 player LAN. Here is the start of my list, beginning with multiplayer FPS

> Rainbow Six + expansions
> Rainbow Six Rogue Spear + expansions
> Ghost Recon
> Unreal Tournament
> Quake 3 Arena

[Anonymous No.8132098]

None of these games have any issues on win10 with the patches available.
I have Rainbow Six+Eagle Watch installed. Rogue Spear aswell, Ghost Recon (Steam), Q3A (CD) and UT from GOG.

[Anonymous No.8132101]

>>8132041
I'm not sure. Say whatever you want about win 10, but microsoft did a pretty good job with its backwards compatibility with win xp. Also there are gog and steam remasters, if thats not enough. The only reason to run windows xp is if you're gaming on your old netbook or laptop.

>wine
Its s bitch to run anything on that thing.

[Anonymous No.8132159]

>>8132098
> Rogue Spear
This has been the one that I really haven't been able to run without, at the very least, graphical issues. RS is one of my favorite games of all time and being able to play it without any issues alone was worth getting and setting up an old laptop. Now I will always have a machine to run it without worrying about the latest Win update breaking compatibility. Being able to run other games is just a fun bonus. Since I got two old Thinkpads and they're cheap, I figured I might as well load them up with fun LAN games and bring them to family events and things like that without worrying too much about one of my nephews spilling a drink on one.

Also I hate Win 10 because I'm a 35 year old boomer. Primarily I run linux. While I can boot into Win 10, I rarely do unless I absolutely have to and only for a few minutes.

[Anonymous No.8132301]

>>8132159
Try dgVoodoo for Rogue Spear. It's a wrapper for old API's.
Before I start older games after installing, I always look on pcgamingwiki for tweaks.
One crucial thing to do on win10 is to enable DirectPlay. And many games need to be run in WinXP SP2 mode and as admin.

I only have trouble with the first colin mcrae so far.
It's still crashing all the time.

Here is a link for rogue spear.
https://www.pcgamingwiki.com/wiki/Tom_Clancy%27s_Rainbow_Six:_Rogue_Spear

[Anonymous No.8132479]

>>8132301
sadly windows 10 barelly runs them since the OS works different.
for example games that took advantage of certain tricks now won't work (example games that need DEP disabled for them which are most of the XP games) not only that due to the way XP works those won't work on windows 10 while they can work with wine

[Anonymous No.8132518]

>>8132041
Quake 1996
Command & Conquer Red Alert 1996
Thief 1998
Half Life 1998
Starcraft 1998
Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six 1998
Star Wars Jedi Knight: Dark Forces II 1997
Shogo: Mobile Armor Division 1998
System Shock 2 1999
Age of Empires 2 1999
Unreal Tournament 1999
Sid Meier's Alpha Centauri 1999
FreeSpace 2 1999
Hidden & Dangerous 1999
The Sims 2000
Deus Ex 2000
Descent 3 2000
Star Trek: Voyager Elite Force 2000
The Operative: No One Lives Forever 2000
Crimson Skies 2000
SWAT 3: Elite Edition 2000
Fur Fighters 2000
Command & Conquer: Red Alert 2 2000
Giants: Citizen Kabuto 2000
Quake III: Team Arena 2000
Black & White 2001
Return to Castle Wolfenstein 2002
Capitalism II 2002
Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon 2002
Red Faction 2002
The Sims Deluxe 2002
Medal of Honor: Allied Assault 2002
No One Lives Forever 2: A Spy in H.A.R.M.'s Way 2002
Unreal Tournament 2003 2002
Global Operations 2003
Halo: Combat Evolved 2003
Star Trek: Elite Force II 2003
Delta Force: Black Hawk Down 2003
Hidden & Dangerous 2 2003
Unreal Tournament 2004 2004
The Sims 2 2004
Far Cry 2004
Painkiller 2004
Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell: Chaos Theory 2005
Battlefield 2 2005
SWAT 4 2005
Star Wars: Republic Commando 2005

[Anonymous No.8132549]

3D Pinball for Windows

[Anonymous No.8133040]

Underrated gem. Not sure if it works on modern systems too but does run on Windows XP. Has multiplayer too.

[Anonymous No.8133708]

>>8132041

[Anonymous No.8133717]

IDLE IDLE EE, IDLE IDLE EE, WE SIMPLY CAN'T LEAVE 'TIL WE'VE GOT MORE WOOD

[Anonymous No.8134280]

The AI in this game is pretty amazing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQBQOYBlTv0

[Anonymous No.8134460]

Even with MechVM I've run into problems with MechWarrior 2 on Windows 7. I've spent way too much time trying to get this game to run exactly the way I want it to. MAJOR PAIN IN THE ASS. There's also about 40 different version of this POS. The straw that broke the camel's back were some control issues I had once everything was running. I think my mouse wasn't bein recognized or some shit. Fuck you I only wanted to play some MW2.

Comanche Gold does run very well and looks absolutely great in high-res mode (1280x1024) thanks to dgVoodoo2 and/or DXGL but it's not really playable without a joystick it seems. If you tilt the nose of the helicopter down with the mouse it immediately returns back to neutral if you stop moving the mouse. It doesn't hold the input. Never found a way to fix this. Maybe someone can help me out with this.

[Anonymous No.8134585]

>>8134460
> I've spent way too much time trying to get this game to run exactly the way I want it to. MAJOR PAIN IN THE ASS.
This has been my experience getting old games to load on newer systems, with Rogue Spear being the biggest pain in the ass (op here) to get an experience on par with what I had 20 years ago (fuck I'm old) using hardware that was a fraction as powerful as my current system. Either I couldn't get fullscreen to work properly, the controls would get fucked, textures wouldn't display properly, transparencies wouldn't work, or some combination of those issues.

At a certain point you need to ask yourself what your time and frustration is worth. Looking on craiglist, offerup, etc., it isn't hard to find a laptop that can run Windows 98 or XP and play all the great games from that era without any bullshit for less than 50 bucks (I got two for that price, showed up to buy one and the guy said "I found this one too, here take it for free"). Then, you can set that laptop aside as your dedicated retro PC game machine and pull it out any time you want to play some old games without compatibility being broken by your latest hardware upgrade or Microshit update.

I'm not saying to never play old games on your newer system. I do that all the time. There are a lot of old games that run flawlessly or even better than before thanks to update patches and such and also wine has gotten a lot better for gaming in recent years if you're a linux chad like myself. But, there is no reason to put up with games that require a lot of tinkering to get running or run sub-optimally.

[Anonymous No.8134701]

Nerf Arena Blast

[Anonymous No.8134796]

>>8134701
YES. Thank you for reminding me about this game. Seems like a great choice for introducing my kids to FPS.

[Anonymous No.8134862]

>>8134585
Again, Rogue Spear is running without ANY problems on Win10.
How hard can it be, to read it up on pcgamingwiki, then throw the dgvoodoo files in the folder and play.
You don't even need compatibility settings for Rogue Spear or admin rights.

[Anonymous No.8134881]

>>8134862
Look, I believe you that you have it running flawlessly on your system. What I'm saying is that I haven't on mine. I went through pcgamingwiki as well. Granted, the last time I tried was several months ago, so maybe things have changed since then, but I'm just tired of fucking around with it.

[Anonymous No.8134919]

>>8132041
i really liked Rise of Nations back in the day

[Anonymous No.8134931]

I thinks it's possible to put later 32 bit Windows distribution into a compatible state, and there is enough tools to emulate or hack around missing components. WOW64 deliberately does not emulate everything from a 32 bit system for a 32 bit process, as it would need to create a full virtual machine with a complete second system for that. The problem is that many games relied on hardcoded rendering choices for each of the common series of video cards at the time of release, because there were significant feature gaps between generations of accelerators and ATI/Nvidia cards, and it was easier to kick something into shape until it worked well enough on specific hardware and driver. DirectX wrappers have some options to deal with it.

[Anonymous No.8134960]

>>8132041
https://www.moddb.com/mods/rainbow-six-black-ops-20

[Anonymous No.8135289]

>>8132041
I spent a lot of time and enjoyed the Sexy Beach games. XP had so many great games in its day.

[Anonymous No.8135584]

>>8134960

[Anonymous No.8136437]

>>8132041
This is my all time favorite game

[Anonymous No.8136440]

Someone doesn't know shit about how Windows works

[Anonymous No.8136471]

>>8133717
>deaaaaath

[Anonymous No.8136551]

>>8132101
>>wine
>Its s bitch to run anything on that thing.
This.Linux/STEAM OS lies.

[Anonymous No.8136554]

>>8132159
>I'm a 35 year old boomer.
No you're a retard who can't count and download patches. Boomers were born in the 1950s.

[Anonymous No.8136561]

>>8132159
disturbing looking character models

[Anonymous No.8136585]

>>8134460
Both comanche 3 (non-gold) and Mechwarrior 2 work very well in dosbox, and ironically it gives the least trouble. You will have to play in software mode though.

[Anonymous No.8136619]

>>8132518
Nice list.

[Anonymous No.8137028]

Laserage
Warbreeds
I've been trying to run these on VirtualBox with win98 or XP, but the latency is unbearable, among other problems.
Maybe I should get a chinkpad and put XP on it too.

[Anonymous No.8137384]

Another lesser known but good title is Sum of All Fears. It's simpler and easier than Rogue Spear but definitely still worth playing if you are a fan of the other Tom Clancy tactical shooters. You can see Ubisoft already wanting to go more mainstream but fortunately they weren't able to dumb it down much. While it is simpler than Rogue Spear, it also feels more streamlined.

[Anonymous No.8139327]

>>8132041
all of the classic blizzard and id software games come highly recommended

[Anonymous No.8140261]

Is Starcraft good for casual play with friends or do you need to be a turbo autist to enjoy? Is the single player campaign worth going through?

[Anonymous No.8140276]

Does windows ce count as xp??

[Anonymous No.8140969]

>>8140261
Yes and yes.

[Anonymous No.8140981]

>>8132159
Wallguy eat your fucking heart out.

[Anonymous No.8140998]

>>8140261

You need to be a turbo autist to be competitive online but you're fine if you're just playing with friends
Campaign is worth it, writing/story was better than SC2

[Anonymous No.8141000]

>>8132041
Command and Conquer Red Alert 2 has some problems. Not quite an XP game but released close enough that it might as well have been.
Command and Conquer Generals doesn't.

[Anonymous No.8141452]

>>8141000
>Command and Conquer Red Alert 2 has some problems
>Command and Conquer Generals doesn't
Please elaborate

[Anonymous No.8141786]

>>8141452
Well, first and foremost neither is an actual Command & Conquer game. RA2 is a sequel to a C&C spin-off and Generals is just a EA cash grab riding the contemporary Middle East theme.

[Anonymous No.8141861]

>>8141000
>Command and Conquer Red Alert 2 has some problems
Never encountered any

[Anonymous No.8143067]

>>8132041

[Anonymous No.8143347]

op here. Finally had a chance to sit down and play Rogue Spear last night. It's MUCH harder than I remember. After trying and failing the first mission about 5 times, I decided to practice in lone wolf mode (no hostages, only objective is eliminate the terrorists). But you can only do lone wolf on completed missions. I finally beat mission 1 by using HQs plan and letting AI run through without me. Lost 1 guy but mission complete. Played some lone wolf, one of my favorite ways to play back in the day. Still extremely hard but less stressful without hostages. Today I'm going to try beating mission 1 without being a bitch.

[Anonymous No.8144391]

>>8141786
>First and foremost
>some irrelevant bullshit
>doesn't answer the question
You fat wanker

[Anonymous No.8144446]

I liked Zuma :)

[Anonymous No.8144565]

>>8132041
Definitely Quake 3. We play all the time at ffa.q3retro.com:27960. Update to v1.32 and install OSP. For a dead game, the population is concentrated in one or two servers at a majority of them are run by q3retro.com.

https://www.moddb.com/games/quake-iii-arena/downloads/quake-iii-arena-point-release-132-pc

https://www.moddb.com/mods/osp

[Anonymous No.8144582]

>>8136437
For me, it's Fuji Golf.

[Anonymous No.8144794]

>>8140261
playing with my brother or cousins is all I do when I get the chance, maybe some skirmishes against bots as well.
my brother likes the campaigns very much but I think it's boring (as with any other RTS campaigns)

[Anonymous No.8144989]

>>8132159
>I'm a 35 year old boomer.

...so am I. I grew up building PCs as a kid, there was barely a week that wouldn't go by where I didn't have to reinstall win98/XP on our one family computer that everyone used, I had to teach myself command prompt, regedit, ect. all that shit as a kid just keep things running without crashing.

Not once. have I ever needed to reinstall win 10, ever, It's so much more stable than previous windows and the framework and accessibility of the older versions is still there too if you know how to get rid of the newer 'app' layout gui and other things like cortana, delete her, do some basic house keeping and Windows 10 is near perfect.

Perhaps you're just retarded, op.

[Anonymous No.8145003]

>>8144989
>there was barely a week that wouldn't go by where I didn't have to reinstall win98/XP on our one family computer that everyone used
Your family must have been immensely retarded if that happened.

[Anonymous No.8145054]

>>8145003
>First family computer in the late 90's
>not having viruses

Zoom zoom

[Anonymous No.8145090]

>>8145054
No fucking shit, I was referring to
>having to reinstall it every week

I cannot recall my family fucking up the computer to that extent when we got our first one in 1996.

[Anonymous No.8145129]

Windows XP had such a long lifespan, as far as Windows OS's go. The first Windows XP machine I had was using an AMD Duron 1.3GHz, with 256MB's of RAM, which was the machine I used in 2001. I did upgrade the CPU to a AMD Athlon XP 2700+ and upped the RAM to 1GB, and had a Geforce FX 5700 with 256MB VRAM. I used that machine up to 2007. In 2007, I had a Pentium 4 3.5GHZ with 2GB RAM and a Geforce 6800 with 512MB RAM. I switched over to Windows 7 64bit in 2011.Windows Vista released in 2006, couldn't dethrown Windows XP. XP was still heavily used past its mainstream support cutoff in 2009. It took a while before Windows 7 could overtake the XP userbase. For me XP games are things like Doom 3, Half-Life 2 (original), FEAR, Far Cry, UT 2003/ 2004, Battlefield Series. Just about everything released for Windows between 2002 and 2009.

[Anonymous No.8145162]

>>8145129
Yeah, amazing how long it was around.
Also started early and jumped off XP late.
Athlon Thunderbird 1.4GHz, 256 MB RAM for the first machine in 2001 and a Dual Xeon (5500-series, Gainestown) with 24 GB running XP Pro x64 when I jumped ship in 2009, upgrading to Win 7. I never used Vista in my life.

I still run XP on my old Evo W8000, just for shits and giggles.

[Anonymous No.8145268]

>>8141786
>RA2 is a sequel to a C&C spin-off
But it's still canonical. In fact, the majority of CnC 3's "new" mechanics originated with this game. This is arguably the first modern Command and Conquer game.
>Generals is just a EA cash grab riding the contemporary Middle East theme
It plays like Starcraft as well, so this has more grounds for the spinoff.

>>8141452
I mean technical issues. Generals runs just fine on Windows 10 without any issues, but Red Alert 2 has a menagerie of issues based on hardware. Unless you get CnCnet, often times the renderer shits the bed and you can't see anything.

[Anonymous No.8145310]

>>8144565
I've tried playing Q3 online and I get fucking wrecked. No chance for me to compete with guys who have been playing for the last 20 years. It is fun though so maybe I should quit complaining like a little bitch and git gud

[Anonymous No.8145326]

>>8144989
lol @ microcuck user calling linux chad retarded. Tell the NSA I said "hi" and that I've been good lately. Maybe one day when you are a big boy, you will be able to cut your own meat, wipe your own ass, and use a real OS

I never said Win 10 isn't stable or that it needs to be reinstalled. Did I? No, I didn't, you dumbfuck.

[Anonymous No.8145356]

>>8145129
>>8145162
Fuck yeah. Obviously I'm not using the internet with it, but after installing Win XP on my old Thinkpads, I'm really enjoying it. I held out on moving from XP to 7 for as long as possible. Now I remember why. Stock, XP is pretty ugly though with that bigass green "start" button and all that shit. But a few settings tweaks, including switching back to the "classic" theme, and it's a fucking joy to use. Very snappy, no bullshit. Aesthetically, for me the only thing that beats XP with the "classic" theme is KDE plasma. Even then, I still give XP the edge in simplicity and stability. Not nearly as customizable or feature rich KDE plasma, but the essentials are all there and it works extremely well.

[Anonymous No.8145405]

>>8132041
american mcgee's alice (2000)

[Anonymous No.8145408]

>>8144989
>if you know how to get rid of the newer 'app' layout gui
how do you do this? is there a guide somewhere? this is one of the major things keeping me on 8.1

[Anonymous No.8145425]

>>8145326
What is it with the elitism that comes with Linux users? 24 years of professionally working as 2D/3D generalist and I never had the need for Linux. All the industry standard tools were/are right there, available for Windows.

[Anonymous No.8145434]

>>8145425
Guy attacks me for no reason, I clap back, and now you're whining about "elitism." Fuck off, pussy

[Anonymous No.8145482]

>>8145434
I haven't read most of this, but from where I'm sitting, it kind of does look like you just went full elitist mode the moment he went "Windows 10 is fine".

[Anonymous No.8145563]

>>8145434
You have some anger issues. Go get your life together man.

[Anonymous No.8145582]

>>8145310
Arena shooters are off-putting because of that, but if you keep playing, you will see improvement. Most of the best players in that community have been playing like 5 years. I've maybe run into one person who has played since the beginning, but they spectate more than play. I started seriously playing right around 3 years ago, and it took a year or so before I could win with a full lobby. Playing more helps you learn the maps. Knowing armor, health, and weapon locations are key to winning.

[Anonymous No.8145590]

>>8145482
> it kind of does look like you just went full elitist mode
You're kind of just as stupid as him, then. He strawmans by answering (poorly, mind you) criticisms against Win 10 I never made, then suggests I'm the retard.

Anyway, it doesn't matter. If you dumbfuck Microcuck nuthuggers can stop with the "but muh Windows 10" bullshit, maybe we can get back to the topic of this theead--which is retro games. I get that linux "elitism" hurts your feelings, but I've already moved on from Windows 10, so you can stop being unpaid shills for Microcuck. I really don't care how much you drooling retards love your spyware. Talk about games or fuck off out of this thread.

[Anonymous No.8145726]

>>8145582
What other arena shooters do you play? UT99? UT04? If just Q3, why?

One thing I appreciate about Q3 is, just like the original Doom, the controls and gameplay are just as smooth and fun as ever, even decades later. That can't be said about 99% of shooters out there. Id really was doing incredible work back then.

[Anonymous No.8145746]

>>8145590
>I never made
Fair enough, like I said, I didn't really read too far into it. OS elitism, no matter which OS, is stupid, which is why I didn't pay too much attention to it. Upon closer examination, yeah, your clap back makes a lot more sense.
By the ways, I fucking fundamentally hate Windows 10. I'm not here to defend it. To think so is laughable.

[Anonymous No.8145824]

>>8145746
>By the ways, I fucking fundamentally hate Windows 10. I'm not here to defend it. To think so is laughable.
That's fine. I really don't give shit about what you or anyone else thinks about Windows 10 or Linux for that matter. I made this thread to discuss retro games that can be played on XP. Do you have anything to say about those games? If not, hit the back button.

[Anonymous No.8145843]

>>8145824
Yeah, I actually DID have things to say about games. Both of these are mine.
>>8141000
>>8145268

[Anonymous No.8146280]

>>8144794
Where do guys fall on the Starcraft vs AoE2 debate? I had friends on both sides that swore one was better than the other. Haven't pkayed either myself to have an opinion though I prefer the setting and aesthetic of AoE2. Which is easier for newcomers?

[Anonymous No.8146337]

>>8132518
Hold me bros

[Anonymous No.8146542]

>>8145726
I own UT and 04 on Steam but they've been uninstalled for years. I just don't like the weapons, movement, or graphics. Also, arena shooters are dead as a whole, but Q3 at least has a small, dedicated, and tightknit community.

[Anonymous No.8146561]

unironically

[Anonymous No.8146595]

>>8146542
you mean it did until Kal closed CROM FFA

[Anonymous No.8146610]

>>8146595
Many people from CROM moved over to q3retro.com

[Anonymous No.8146617]

>>8146561
Ah, good old mouse button breaker.
Popcap had some good shit back in the day.

[Anonymous No.8146645]

>>8146561
Any game by PopCap is pure XP-core. Back then when you played a PopCap game you'd knew you get quality casual game goodness anyone could enjoy.

[Anonymous No.8146676]

>>8146561
there used to be a farming game around that era, not necessarily popcap but similar brightly coloured 2d assets. my gf/wife used to play it all the time. any ideas?

[Anonymous No.8146734]

>ctrl+F
>no Cave Story
???

[Anonymous No.8147626]

>>8145356
>I held out on moving from XP to 7 for as long as possible. Now I remember why. Stock, XP is pretty ugly though with that bigass green "start" button and all that shit.

Man, I don't know what they were thinking with the 'fisher price' desktop GUI. Sure, they were trying to move away from the sterile grey of the 9X kernel OS's. To be honest Vista had a nice looking desktop interface in comparison. I had Vista on a laptop, and while I do think it was more bloated on 32Bit machines than XP. I don't think the 64bit Vista was a bad OS at all. Vista was was transitional from 32bit to 64bit. Vista was released in 2006, around the launch of Intel's Core2 line of CPU's. While AMD launched their AMD64 line in 2003. But even up to 2013, Windows XP 32bit still had a larger userbase than Windows 8. But was overtaken by Windows 7 64bit. I new people then who were using Windows XP to still play WOW or Counter Strike (1.6 or Source) in 2013 - 2014.

[Anonymous No.8147635]

>>8147626
I mean, you could just customize the theme? But yeah, Windows Vista was awesome. Especially once you got to SP2. That's when pretty much all of the major bugs were fixed, and hardware manufacturers started providing drivers en mass.
Too bad Microsoft "pulled" an ME initially, telling hardware manufacturers to fuck off because Microsoft was going to make all the drivers. That was a big part of the early problem.

[Anonymous No.8147867]

>>8147626
>Vista had a nice looking desktop interface in comparison
Stock Vista looked good compared to stock XP. But, it still doesn't come close to XP classic theme. Just so fucking clean and organized. Never had any problems quickly finding what I needed in that UI. It was suitable for normies and power users while later versions of Windows catered to normies almost exclusively.

>>8146734
>Cave Story
I totally forgot that was a Windows game. Thanks for the reminder, great game.

[Anonymous No.8148109]

>>8146734
Never played it, is it any good? I'm not very good at platformers, it's a platformer shooter isn't it?

[Anonymous No.8148110]

>>8132041
Many games from the Win98/XP era do still work on Windows 10 with workarounds: https://mega.nz/folder/CldGAahb#yn_8LkRHraywPgKJMp5pqA
I do remember needing dgvoodoo to get Rainbow Six to run, but most groundbreaking games got sourceports/decomps to fix them

[Anonymous No.8148175]

>>8148110
holy fuck these dipshits just won't stop with the "but muh Windows 10" posting. I'm sorry, did you get the impression that this is a "how can I jump through hoops to play retro games on Windows 10" thread? Maybe it was all the "stop posting about Windows 10 posts" that made you think that. You Microcuck NPCs are obsessed with shilling your anti-user spyware to people, even when they explicitly say they are not interested. It's like some kind of stockholm syndrome cult.

>>8148109
>Never played it, is it any good?
Very good. It's the result of a many years long passion project by one guy. There are some interesting Youtube documentaries about it.

[Anonymous No.8148473]

>>8148175
Okay, that one was unprovoked. He was only offering a solution to play these older games on their Windows 10 operating system.
Yeah, Win10 is shitty, and deserves every single bit of hatred it gets, but this is like getting angry over someone suggesting Wine to someone else who wants to play old Windows games on Linux.
As for Cave Story, I'll check it out. Thanks for the recommendation.

[Anonymous No.8148758]

>>8132518
nothing but kino

[Anonymous No.8148994]

>>8148473
> Okay, that one was unprovoked. He was only offering a solution
You're right. Clearly he didn't see the previous posts and was just trying to help. On top of that his mega link has a list of some great games. I took out frustration caused by other posters on him. My apologies for that, anon.
> Yeah, Win10 is shitty
It's not about hating Windows 10. If you like it, then great. What I said is true--modern Windows is absolutely spyware. In fact it is malware, it is straight up abusive to its users. But, most people who use Windows 10 know that already and continue using it for some reason. That's fine with me. Use it all day, I really could not give any less of a shit. But personally, I'm not interested in hunting down patches and ancillary applications to jimmy rig old games so that they run on a new OS in a jank-ass way when an older OS does it perfectly well. More importantly, this is a retro game board and a thread about retro Windows XP games. If someone wants to spend their time dicking around to get their games running on Windows 10, more power to them, but there are plenty of other places to discuss that outside of this retro video game board. This has been an excellent thread so far about older computer games, I have loaded up several games mentioned here and I'm having a great time.

[Anonymous No.8149108]

>>8132518
>TFW there will never be a time like the late 90s for PC gaming

The best gaming of my life was playing Diablo 1, StarCraft, Half-Life Deathmatch, and FreeSpace 2. Take me back, bros.

At least StarCraft 1 still has a scene (but everyone is way too good to be fun), and FreeSpace 2 is better than ever with high-res graphics. But I would give anything for the Diablo 1 and HL:DM community to come back. Unless you want to play with bots, you can't play HL:DM online anymore, since it has no players. Even then, all the really fun servers back in the day had giant rotations of novelty custom maps. I miss that so much. My favorite were all the "you're tiny in a giant kitchen" novelty gimmick maps.

[Anonymous No.8149319]

>>8149108
Even the 2000s were active for those games. Really there will never be anything like the pre 2010s.

[Anonymous No.8149338]

>>8149108
>Freespace
If you like that game, check out Descent. There is a free "remaster" called Rebirth. Amazing series.
> Half-Life Deathmatch
I never really played HL online because by the time I got it Counter Strike was already big. But your description makes me want to try it.

[Anonymous No.8149556]

How do you install 2003 (XP variant) on an nvme drive and know it is aligned?

[Anonymous No.8149583]

>>8149556
I'm sure Windows XP won't have drivers for an NVMe drive, so you won't be able to install it on "bare metal." So install Windows 10 or a Linux distro, then you'll need to run Windows XP through virtualization software like VirtualBox, OpenVZ, or Xen. It's been a while since I've messed around with virtualization, so I don't recall which is best for your use case.

I really like your hentai / agehao keycaps. Have to ask, where'd you get those?

[Anonymous No.8149590]

let me add my favorites:
1. Vampire bloodlines
2. Max Payne
3. Postal
4. Heroes of Might and magic 3 actually even for older systems too
5. Manhunt

[Anonymous No.8149595]

This thread makes me want to dig out my XP rig I found in a bin one time.

And also catalogue the literal pile of AGP cards I have. If only I had friends I could rope into helping me lol

[Anonymous No.8149610]

>>8149583
I don't expect it to have drivers, but I was hoping it could still install onto one. Maybe I'd only format half of the drive and leave the other half unpartitioned for garbage collection. A shame because this video is so close to what I have: https://youtu.be/KM59UYGoZls

The keycaps, like the rest of the stuff there is from China. They all have a chance to be bad or fake, but it was the only cheap option. Especially now when nothing is cheap, even from China.

[Anonymous No.8149727]

I still don't get it.
Everything that runs on xp also runs on win10.
Win95/98 era games are way more problematic.

[Anonymous No.8150156]

Word of advice to those messing around trying to get old games to run. Do not, I repeat, do NOT install ppjoy to emulate joysticks and steering wheels with your mouse. You have been warned.

[Anonymous No.8150162]

>>8150156
the fear in your post sounds fun
i'm going to do this right now

[Anonymous No.8150175]

>>8149727
>wolfenstein
nice, what server do you play on?

[Anonymous No.8150389]

>>8149727
Fair point. A better title for this thread might have included Windows 95/98. While it's probably true that most games for XP also run on 10, as you pointed out that isn't the case for 95/98 games. But I haven't had any problem getting any 95/98 have running on XP. That's why I see "XP games" representing the entire span from Win 95 to XP. You think I'm full of shit? Yeah probably. That said, I would be interested to hear from anyone who thinks there is any good reasons to use 95/98 over XP.

[Anonymous No.8150436]

>>8150175
E.T.? None so far, just for testing.
I think I saw a few servers with bots only.

[Anonymous No.8150439]

>>8150389
Ok.
But this only works for some games.
Win95 was the last Windows with a unique dos implementation.

[Anonymous No.8150701]

>>8150439
The implication there being that 95 can run DOS games that 98/XP cannot? If so, on an XP machine, couldn't you still just boot into DOS or use Dosbox?

[Anonymous No.8150762]

>>8150701
>The implication there being that 95 can run DOS games that 98/XP cannot

Windows 95, 98/se and ME are all using the 9x Kernel. Windows 9x does have MS-DOS as an underlying component that can be accessed from the desktop through a DOS shell. I do not know what DOS games run on Windows 95 that couldn't on Windows 98? I could play a lot of DOS games on Windows 98, but some would have speed issues. Most titles, like Duke 3D, Tomb Raider, Quake (DOS), and other titles would run fine. Maybe Windows 95 still has some 16-bit libraries not found in Windows 98/se? Not sure about Windows ME, but it uses the 9x kernel. Windows XP`uses the NT kernel, and doesn't rely on DOS in anyway. You have to use a program like DOS box

[Anonymous No.8150835]

>>8132518

[Anonymous No.8150923]

>>8132518
>quake, etc

Take me back to the paradise city...

[Anonymous No.8150924]

>>8135289
Omg sexy beach 3! So many nuts busted to that using my nvidia vanta.

[Anonymous No.8151273]

>>8150762
>You have to use a program like DOS box
Actually 32 bit Windows NT(any) can run DOS programs, it's just not recommended because it's really, really bad.

[Anonymous No.8151760]

>>8151273
>Actually 32 bit Windows NT(any) can run DOS programs, it's just not recommended because it's really, really bad.

Yeah, I guess it can. But I don;t know if it just uses a compatibility layer, or what? Microsoft's 9X kernel (Windows 95/98/98se) is better suited for running DOS era games in a windows environment. There were still DOS software being released up to 1998-1999 commercially.

[Anonymous No.8152347]

>>8140276
let's just say yes for today :)

[Anonymous No.8152397]

>>8151760
>Windows 9X family is better for DOS
Yeah. It is.
>I don't know if it just uses a compatibility layer
I don't think it's a compatibility layer, I think what has happened is that DOS is fundamentally responsible for the 16 bit Windows program handling, so it runs a wildly stripped version of DOS to provide support. This has the side effect of being based on MS-DOS 5.2 and also being really, really fucking bad at handling DOS programs.
I'll ask the ReactOS devs, they're way more in tune with the whole thing than I am.

[Anonymous No.8153108]

>>8132041
WoW

[Anonymous No.8153185]

Popcap bottle cap matching game , random ass zuma games , apache helicopter topscroller shooting games , chicken invader series, empire earth , stronghold series.. and that one space ship game with powerups like chicken invaders.. man GOOD SHIT

[Anonymous No.8153257]

>>8152397
> ReactOS
Interesting. Never heard of this. Checked out the site but couldn't tell what kind of compatibility it is intended to have. Just 64bit Windows, or older versions? Interesting project idea that I didn't think was possible. If successful it could offer a real alternative to linux for those who need Windows but don't want to be Microshafted.

[Anonymous No.8153304]

>>8132101
Win 10 is bloat. An OS shouldn't hog 2gb of memory for the sake of a few transparent windows.

[Anonymous No.8153314]

>>8140261
I'd say it's best for casual play. Playing with people who know what they are doing kinda ruins it for me. I prefer long winded games.

[Anonymous No.8153320]

>>8146280
Starcraft has lower and higher skill floors and ceilings. It's also overall better because it has more depth despite AoE's complexity in resources acquisition.

[Anonymous No.8153327]

>>8150924
Yeah, once 3Dfx disappeared, I switched to nVidia. It is unfortunate that their graphics cards have become pure unobtainium and I will have to deal with the poverty AMD option. Between being priced out of nVidia, AMD is so bad that I kind of quit PC games, but I miss it so much.

[Anonymous No.8153331]

>>8145129
XP was still my main OS up until very recently. Because my broker made its website incompatible even with the up-to-date community browsers (namely mypal) it forced my hand into switching on Linux.
I still boot on XP whenever I want to watch videos whether I downloaded them or want to stream, but for other web activities I have to use Linux.

[Anonymous No.8153339]

>>8146542
>I own
>on Steam

[Anonymous No.8153343]

>>8132041
I used to have this game on a floppy I bought for $5 at a used computer store. Once you figure out the basic commands to move the ship around and get into fights, it's pretty cool.

[Anonymous No.8153361]

>ReactOS will never be completed in your lifetime

[Anonymous No.8154313]

>>8153257
Current goal is complete Windows 2003 support.
It's a ground up recreation of the Windows NT kernel, rather than just being Linux, so it's a slow going process but it's shaping up to be pretty good. After Windows 2003 support, they're going to tackle Windows Vista-10, which they think wont take nearly as long as tackling Windows 2003, because the changes between the two are surprisingly minimal.

>>8153361
It will, they've made major strides towards increasing stability in 0.4.15. I have hope.

[Anonymous No.8154336]

>>8132101
>>wine
>Its s bitch to run anything on that thing.
>>8136551
>This
It's a bitch to run some things — perhaps even most things — but "anything"? Not really. Sorry for being pedantic but there are games that will run perfectly if you just open a terminal (ooh, scary, I know) and type "wine" followed by the name of the executable. Obviously you're not going to switch to Linux just because "yay Wine can run a subset of games" but lying about the difficulty of using Wine isn't productive either.

[Anonymous No.8154714]

>>8154336
It's exciting what is happening in regards to linux gaming in the last few years with things like lutris making it a lot easier. As much as I have problems with Steam, they could very well be responsible for bringing linux gaming mainstream over the next few years.

>>8153343
This is awesome, thanks for posting.

[Anonymous No.8155387]

Just played Venom Codename Outbreak. It's a fun semi-tactical FPS. GOG version runs on XP great and probably 7/10 as well. Has LAN multiplayer but I haven't tried it yet.

[Anonymous No.8156180]

>>8154714
>As much as I have problems with Steam, they could very well be responsible for bringing linux gaming mainstream over the next few years
I can't disagree. They've done in 3 years what FOSS enthusiasts couldn't have done in decades. Sometimes you really do need that corporate push to actually get shit done.

[Anonymous No.8158362]

>>8156180
No idea why they're doing it. Seems it would be more profitable to focus on Windows / Mac when last I heard, even after massive growth over the last few years, linux users are still only about 1% of steam's customer base. Clearly they want to break away from Windows for some reason.

[Anonymous No.8158383]

>>8158362
Because if they succeed they can get a foothold into potential gaming computers monopoly.

[Anonymous No.8158864]

what is the ideal XP configuration for gaming?

[Anonymous No.8159623]

>>8158864
I'm using an '06 Thinkpad with integrated ATI graphics. Installed DirectX 9 (newest for WinXP) and I've been able to play every gane I've tested so far on full graphics.

[Anonymous No.8159703]

>>8158362
>Clearly they want to break away from Windows for some reason.
Maybe because Valve are afraid Microsoft will lock down their OS to the point of disallowing third-party apps as soon as they think they can get away with it. Bringing Linux up to speed with Windows could be an insurance policy.

[Anonymous No.8159710]

>>8159703
Correct, he's been pretty explicit about that: https://www.ign.com/articles/steam-deck-openness-superpower-closed-platforms-gabe-newell

[Anonymous No.8159725]

>>8132041
This game had such a huge impact on me.

[Anonymous No.8160330]

>>8159710
Gabe looks like some kind of wizard. If they successfully pull off a linux revolution in games, I will forgive him for Half Life 3.

[Anonymous No.8161009]

>>8149727
>Everything that runs on xp also runs on win10.
Tone Rebellion and Dungeon Keeper didn't work on 7 no matter what so I'm betting they won't work on 10 either. Work perfectly fine on XP.

[Anonymous No.8161025]

>>8161009
>Dungeon Keeper didn't work on 7
I'll take "What is KeeperFX?" for 500, Alex.

[Anonymous No.8161036]

>>8161025
That's just proving his point.

[Anonymous No.8161202]

>>8161036
Hey, I'm just trying to help folks have the best Dungeon Keeper experience. Nobody should be denied access to some motherfucking Dungeon Keeper. Don't you agree? Also I'm fairly certain it runs on W7 without it the community patch. It's just better with it.

[Anonymous No.8161562]

>>8135289
is that the chick from Battle Raper?

[Anonymous No.8161605]

>>8161562
That's right. She keeps crying out for a Nissan. The Sexy Beach games were pretty much select characters from their other games, like Des Blood, in a tropical hotel setting.

[Anonymous No.8162842]

>>8137028
>Warbreeds
Kino
>Laserage
Ever try "Operation: Inner Space"?

[Anonymous No.8162862]

>>8161009
DK works on 7. At least my GOG version with d3d patch does.