/vr/ - Retro Games

[None !ccqXAQxUxI No.8099453]

>boomers really shat their pants over these visuals

[Anonymous No.8099457]

For me, it's Yuffie

[Anonymous No.8099473]

Sephiroth, you okay? Kind of look like you're having a stroke there.

[Anonymous No.8099479]

OP is small brain with no imagination (like most zoomers), and I never even played this growing up.

[None !ccqXAQxUxI No.8099484]

>>8099479
>"it's supposed to look like shit because....it just does, okay?"

[Anonymous No.8099490]

>>8099484
Fuck off back to /v/ zoom zoom

[Anonymous No.8099525]

Yeah, they look like Lego people, so the fuck what? I like it.

[Anonymous No.8099535]

>>8099453
when I saw FF7s cutscenes for the first time I literally squirted hot poop all over my TV.

[Anonymous No.8099538]

>>8099484
>why cant they do high res textures on hardware that cant cope with these things? it must be deliberate!

[Anonymous No.8099573]

The most impressive thing about FF7 is how much better the camera work is than 99% of games from the past 15 years.

[Anonymous No.8099591]

I first played FF7 a few months ago, and the pre-rendered backgrounds are beautiful to look at.

[Anonymous No.8099606]

>>8099453

[None !ccqXAQxUxI No.8099613]

>>8099606
>>8099538
>>8099490
>>8099479
cope

[Anonymous No.8099618]

b-b-b-but muh 5 minute summon cutscenes running at 15fps

[Anonymous No.8099675]

The FMVs and static backgrounds was the real focus of aesthetics spectacle.
The 3D sprites were always considered blocky. But smart people also realized they were designed that way on purpose for the sake of being expressive and vivid when working with a low poly count.

[Anonymous No.8099689]

>>8099675
>But smart people also realized they were designed that way on purpose for the sake of being expressive and vivid when working with a low poly count.

I don't believe that's the main reason, the main reason is tradition and scale.

In most older FF games, except maybe 6, all the world sprites are less detailed than the combat sprites. The main reason is because you can create the world from a higher point of view, a scale at which you don't need to worry about smaller details, a scale which makes things look bigger than they are, and a scale which makes handling everything about the world easier. The combat sprites can be more detailed because the focus is on a smaller scale.

FF7 applied the same logic to 3D. There is absolutely ZERO technical reason why they couldn't have used the higher res combat models in the game world; but now you'd have to build the entire world at a different scale, which is the whole reason why those mods that put the combat models in the game world do not work at all unless you're a blind retard.

[Anonymous No.8099706]

>>8099479
Look at her blocky foam body, she looks like a transformer made out of takeout boxes.

[Anonymous No.8099720]

VR is getting shitier day by day

[Anonymous No.8099723]

>>8099457
Based

[Anonymous No.8099726]

>>8099675
>But smart people also realized they were designed that way on purpose for the sake of being expressive and vivid when working with a low poly count.
This is what people don't understand. The game's environments were "flat" but still had depth in that depending on the area the characters could be pretty far away from the camera. The giant Popeye arms and basic gouraud shading allowed the field models to be easily visible all the time and have their emotions, conveyed through their arms like SNES 2D sprites often did, instantly readable over the highly detailed pre-rendered backdrops.

[Anonymous No.8099727]

>>8099675

[Anonymous No.8099730]

>>8099453
Zoomers like OP makes threads like this every day because their newest, most bestest eva for eva are nothing but shit and as proof they're here making stupid threads instead of playing.
Case and point.

[Anonymous No.8099732]

>>8099730
*make

[Anonymous No.8099739]

FFVII had a nice style with its pre-rendered backgrounds, but Panzer Dragoon Saga came out literally a year after and blew it away in terms of 3D, both pre-rendered and in-engine.

[Anonymous No.8099762]

The blocky overmap models were a point of criticism from Day 1. And FF7 has some legitimately good-looking battle models, particularly among the summons.

[Anonymous No.8099763]

I cant believe you fucking retards fell for this bait AGAIN

[Anonymous No.8099769]

>>8099763
>how dare you want to discuss something that is commonly discussed
>imagine being baited into a conversation
>I knew that people were going to have opinions about this thing before people even posted their opinions about this thing, so clearly I'm superior

[Anonymous No.8099774]

>>8099763
i swear the average poster on this board falls for more retarded bait than any other board on this godforsaken site. the OP is even a fucking tripfag, god damn
>8099769
fuck off nigger

[Anonymous No.8099775]

Boomers? We're you born retarded or did you have a head injury?

[Anonymous No.8099787]

>>8099774
Imagine being so insecure that you refuse to talk about something because the way it was presented. You're winning the 4chan game alright. Let me just tally up your points.

[Anonymous No.8099820]

>>8099453
I wasn't even aware of FF7's existence at the time. Was too busy greatly enjoying Super Mario 64 and other N64 games to care about whatever trash the Plebstation was getting.

[Anonymous No.8099862]

The blocky overworld models were just a very direct 3D interpretation of the previous game's sprites in both proportion and detail priorities. It was a "if it ain't broke..." kind of thing.

[Anonymous No.8099894]

>>8099862
I'm not saying I have more technical knowledge than a goddamn 90s jap game designer, but Cloud's arms really are that bad and they should've found a workaround. At least the other characters have clothing or something to hide theirs, or they show up by the point you don't care about it anymore.

[Anonymous No.8099897]

>>8099613
Please form your response in the form of amongus so I can understand

[Anonymous No.8099940]

>playing a GAME for the story
Oh no my generic anime tropes and treehugger philosophies.

[Anonymous No.8099946]

>>8099453
yeah, seph wasn't a slack-jaw in the original. that's the PC port trash

[Anonymous No.8099950]

[Anonymous No.8099952]

[Anonymous No.8099953]

>>8099453
>open mouth soisephiroth
Play on original hardware fagboy

[Anonymous No.8099956]

>>8099689
it's obvious that squaresoft was getting their 3d bearings and decided that since gouraud shading let them render the most polygons/sec they'd try that mostly. later games relied on texturing much more heavily. that being said, ff7 looks fantastic

[Anonymous No.8099964]

It was all really impressive as a kid. Especially the battles though. Still one of my favorite games.

[Anonymous No.8099968]

[Anonymous No.8099971]

>zoomers really shat their pants over this ugly 3D model in a pre-rendered background

[Anonymous No.8099973]

>>8099940
Might as well just play Pong then, because even back when games had no real story, it still needed something to unite the levels and/or characters together and give you something to care about.

[Anonymous No.8099987]

>>8099973
The gameplay is what you care about.

[Anonymous No.8099993]

>>8099956
i'll also add that color-shaded triangles don't suffer from screen-space interpolation as bad as textures do; the effect is there but not nearly as noticable

[Anonymous No.8099994]

>>8099973
The problem is when, like in so many RPGs, the story begins to overpower the gameplay and remove the player from playing.

So much of "playing" an RPG is just reading text or watching cutscenes, it's very cringe.

[Anonymous No.8099998]

>>8099987
>>8099994
I say this as a fan of JRPGs: Don't bother with them because you don't like them and never will. Not sure why you gameplay purists get so agitated over story-based games.

[Anonymous No.8100000]

spirtual GET

[Anonymous No.8100003]

>>8099453
Bait threads like this should be shot on sight, yet you keep providing OP with replies he's lusting for. Anon never changes.

[Anonymous No.8100521]

>>8100000
Witnessed

[Anonymous No.8100603]

>>8099787
Imagine having this little spiel ready to go at a moment's notice in a sad and transparent attempt to justify wanting to shitpost.

[Anonymous No.8100638]

>zoomers really shit their pants over these visuals

[Anonymous No.8100684]

>>8100638
Well I just shit mine. Not from excitement.

[Anonymous No.8101231]

>>8099973
they should have gone back and made a pong game with a plot. Pong RPG

[Anonymous No.8101235]

>>8100638
>zoomed in blurry ass pictures of ugly female characters
are you sure the graphics are what you're actually complaining about? upper right looks pretty good to me
IMO best looking games rn are red dead 2 and ms flight sim

[Anonymous No.8101239]

>>8100000

[Anonymous No.8101272]

>>8100000
what the absolute fuck

[Anonymous No.8101273]

>>8101239
>>8101272
t. newfaggot retards who don't know what a get script is

please leave

[Anonymous No.8101282]

>>8101273

[Anonymous No.8101289]

>>8099618
This is another reason why 8 was better then 7. You could just skip that shit.

[Anonymous No.8101291]

>>8101282
kekt but still, please leave

[Anonymous No.8101310]

>>8101291
no

[Anonymous No.8101313]

>>8100000
Sweet as fuck broski

[Anonymous No.8101343]

>>8100638
Imagine all the money that goes into creating such absolutely hideous games.

[Anonymous No.8101364]

>>8100000

[Anonymous No.8101390]

>>8100638
what's wrong with these? even i remember and wish during the olden days, that vidya graphics would someday reach levels of Toy Story, Spirits within, Beast Wars. We still lived in age of pointy faces and square hands for a long time. The best thing video companies achieved were in-game cutscene expressions featured in Crash 2-CTR and the Spyro series

[Anonymous No.8101397]

>>8101390
he hates ugly women and black people

[Anonymous No.8101408]

>>8101390
You wanted games to look like that when you were a kid, rather than look aesthetically pleasing and badass?

[Anonymous No.8101419]

>>8099484

It came out literally the year after hardware acceleration hit consumer electronics. The first mainstream 3d graphics card came out less than a year before for the PC. I still remember my pentium 90 with a Riva TNT2 chugging with FF7

[Anonymous No.8101421]

>>8099618

No that actually was a huge gripe I had with the game, some of the later summons like Knights of the Round have like a fucking full minute animation.

[Anonymous No.8101496]

>>8099618
>>8101421
>not knowing the feel of sitting through back-to-back KotRs without speed up

[Anonymous No.8101501]

>>8101397
based

[Anonymous No.8101509]

>>8101408
sure why not? if tv, movies and commercials could achieve smoother angles, why can't video games? of course, we had to live with it not that it was a bad thing

[Anonymous No.8101561]

>>8101509
Nah the more angular stuff is way more appealing and I speak as a zoomer.
It's like with 80s cars
Something about confident defined lines. Bright colors. Banging midi sound tracks
It's all just superior to the higher technical fidelity yet lower artistic value of modern things

[Anonymous No.8101570]

I fucking hated 3D graphics of the 90s even when they were new especially graphics like this.

[Anonymous No.8102536]

>>8099525
I remember my dad watching me play and asked 'why do their hands look like dumbbells?'

[Anonymous No.8102539]

>>8099573
Well it was a predominantly 2d game.

[Anonymous No.8102558]

>>8101561
Based taste, 80s cars had the best aesthetics

[Anonymous No.8102878]

>>8102539
camerawork should be easier in a 3d space, not in a game where if you change a camera position you have to re-render an entire scene on a workstation

[Anonymous No.8102885]

>>8102878
easier maybe
but the prerendered backdrops forced them to pay attention to it
now devs have just given up and make camera stick to your back as much as possible

[Anonymous No.8102891]

I’ve never been bothered by the way 5th gen 3D games look, and I didn’t even grow up with them

[Anonymous No.8102942]

>>8102885
Exactly, devs need to realize how imporant the camera is in framing the game and embrace it, not put the responsibility on the player 99% of the time

[Anonymous No.8103049]

>>8099726
To be fair the people in question are /vr/ autists who don't understand body language or interact with other humans ever.

[Anonymous No.8103082]

>>8099453
Looks amazing? Your point?

[Anonymous No.8103102]

>>8100000
HOW CAN HE SLAP?

[Anonymous No.8103138]

>>8099453
A boomer is someone who was born around the 1950s. Not what your referring to which would actually be a millennial.

God the left are such f-ing retards

[Anonymous No.8103151]

>>8103138
thanks for the explaination, grandpa. also, looks like you are so senile you forgot >>>/pol/ was somewhere else

[Anonymous No.8103186]

>>8099453
Was this because of hardware's limitations or the art direction just being dogshit? I mean, many other 5th-gen games looked way better than this.

[Anonymous No.8103201]

>>8101561
>Nah the more angular stuff is way more appealing and I speak as a zoomer.
sure but we had no choice because angular was the peak limit that games could do at the time.

[Anonymous No.8103203]

>>8103151
30 is grandpa to u?
Wow u really are a dumb nigger huh...

[Anonymous No.8103238]

>>8100000
H-how did you do that?

[Anonymous No.8103302]

>>8103186
Answer is in the thread tldr is that you don't get body language

[Anonymous No.8103305]

>>8103138
Are you being retarded on purpose or did you just arrive yesterday?

[Anonymous No.8103434]

>>8099453
Those visuals aren’t “les cutscenes”.

[Anonymous No.8103856]

>29
>boomer
Fuck you OP