why is mortal kombat so liked? I never understood it. Also mortal kombat general.

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Anonymous Mon Jun 17 00:55:54 2013 No.809196 [Reply] [Original]

why is mortal kombat so liked? I never understood it. Also mortal kombat general.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 17 01:03:54 2013 No.809227 >>809196 It appeals to teen angst/violence but not so over done that it gets awful as you get older Kinda like gore action flicks of the 80s: over the top but can still be loved.

Anonymous Mon Jun 17 01:06:24 2013 No.809230

I really liked the conquest mode in one of the later ones (where you got to run around different realms and get treasure and whatnot).
But that's probably because it was more RPG and less Fighter.
That said the characters are all distinctive (hur hur recolor) and that appealed to my younger self.
Nowadays... not so much.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 17 01:06:54 2013 No.809231 File: 30 KB, 327x323, 1343977532900.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>809227 Pretty much this.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 17 01:10:24 2013 No.809239 at the time? the motion-captured moves were a new thing, the fatalities were truly brutal, and the system was a fun alternative to street fighter nowadays? i honestly don't know, it's not that good

Anonymous Mon Jun 17 01:10:24 2013 No.809242

>>809227
>Hey you guys, wanna play Mario Kart?
>Naw, that's kiddie stuff, anon. Let's play Mortal Kombat. I hear you can chop off people's heads with Sonya's blade-fans.
A real-life conversation I remember having as a kid. Younger people are always going to want to play the 'mature' games because it makes them feel 'mature', when in actuality, maturity comes from playing whatever you want because you enjoy playing it, not because the amount of violence or suggestive themes.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 17 01:12:25 2013 No.809252 It was edgy in the 90s

Anonymous Mon Jun 17 01:12:55 2013 No.809250

I remember when the first MK was released at our local arcade.

Everyone loved the gore but hated the play control. This was at the height of SF2 mania and MK was considered borderline unplayable at first.

Eventually people discovered the cheap tricks and the one unbalanced character (sub zero), and this made it slightly less terrible. It was never really huge but it attracted more people watching than mos other games.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 17 01:14:55 2013 No.809259 >>809239 >nowadays? i honestly don't know, it's not that good It didn't age well at all.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 17 01:14:55 2013 No.809260 >>809242 I'm from mid west Oregon and as growing up it was the flip. Everyone wanted to play Mario/Rayman/Crash games but hated "adult" theme games because they look like try hards to us.

Anonymous Mon Jun 17 01:18:55 2013 No.809269
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I had the chance to play this at a Beer-Cade a couple weeks ago. Used to play the crap out of it when it came out, somehow remember most of moves.

I had a blast. It was a winner stays scenario. I must have beaten about 20 people until an asian guy was able to kill me. Surprisingly a lot of cute girls were playing as well, I made sure to friendship them.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 17 01:20:55 2013 No.809272 >>809269 >I made sure to friendship them. >not performing babe-ality

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 17 01:37:54 2013 No.809302 >>809272 He babyfied you...you're like...a baby now. (Player, on LSD, vomits)

Anonymous Mon Jun 17 01:38:54 2013 No.809305

>>809302
HUGE found it

http://books.google.com/books?id=l62_cgG-aq4C&pg=PA117&lpg=PA117&dq=He+babalized+you&source=bl&ots=fx_ZXPGZWZ&sig=K3Gz-IjwGC1ogEyFLveQk04OQZ0&hl=en&sa=X&ei=s6C-Ud_jLbXF4APJqYD4Dw&ved=0CCwQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=He%20babalized%20you&f=false

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 17 01:48:55 2013 No.809334 File: 402 KB, 2100x873, babalized.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>809305 >>809302 >>809227

Anonymous Mon Jun 17 01:51:54 2013 No.809342

"Is babality death?"

Derek shook his head no. He was so serious that he looked for a moment as if he might start sobbing. "No, man," he said, shaking his head violently. "No, man. It's worse. Way worse. Because you have to live, man. You have to live. And you're a fuckin' baby!"

Donny dropped his hands and turned away. "Oh, my God!"

He's gonna hurl! He's gonna hurl!

Anonymous Mon Jun 17 01:54:54 2013 No.809350

Donny had played a lot of Mortal Kombat, on and off acid. He had ripped guys' heads off, split their torsos down the middle, burned their faces off, eaten them alive. He had had all of those things done to him. It didn't bother him.

But today, blasted on weed, ripped on acid, wasted from not getting enough sleep on Lisa's bedroom floor the night before, without a crumb of food in his stomach, the idea of really seeing a guy get babalized was so exciting that he thought he might actually throw up or wet his pants.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 17 02:09:54 2013 No.809393 It was a fun, well-designed game with iconic characters and a hearty level of gore and humor

Anonymous Mon Jun 17 02:12:25 2013 No.809403

I remember first playing it at a friends house after my brothers funeral. It was pretty cathartic at the time, but it helped me keep sane which was nice.

Bought a genesis a few months ago and had bought Mortal Kombat II. A buddy of mine got real excited so i took it all over to his house and hooked the thing up, got really stoned, and started playing MKII.
It was a blast. It was made for stoners, I was almost convulsing on the floor from laughter. We had just executed some perfectly timed back and forth sparring, so borderline ridiculous that even his straight edge girlfriend was laughing with us. Ill always love MK

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>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 17 02:17:24 2013 No.809418 Mortal Kombat was in the 90s to videogames what 90s comics were. Graphic, grimdark and no substance. But it was new and different, so it was popular

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 17 02:34:24 2013 No.809482 Shock value aside, it was actually playable and easy to pick up... Which can't be said from many fightan games from that era.

Anonymous Mon Jun 17 02:38:24 2013 No.809495
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>>809196
At the time it was one of the first violent video games, and it was bloody, which was a big deal at the time.

That was actually the game that made me switch to SEGA/SONY instead of Nintendo, because Nintendo made their version of the game have gray colored sweat instead of blood. From that point forward, I knew Nintendo would be the family friendly console and I was gonna have to find something else.

Anonymous Mon Jun 17 02:50:24 2013 No.809540

>>809196
I feel the same way bro.

I HATE the 1p Mode of every entry on this series except for one, when at the very least is tolerable.

Who the hell tough that having the CPU react to every single fucking move you do, almost as if you are actually controlling the CPU to kick your ass via the inputs instead of your character do so.

The Multilayer isn't even that solid at the very least up until 3, since most of the characters fight the same.

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>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 17 03:07:24 2013 No.809584 How many other fighting games of the time were actually fun and weren't dumb anime games?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 17 03:15:54 2013 No.809605 >>809584 Im not sure how Street Fighter and Darkstalkers counts as "dumb anime" however we had Clayfighters, Virtual Fighter, Fighting Vipers, Tekken and Killer Instinct

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 17 03:18:24 2013 No.809612 >>809549 FUCKIN SAVED. Nice Done

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 17 03:24:55 2013 No.809635 >>809334 wtf am i reading

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 17 03:28:24 2013 No.809651 >>809605 Tekken is pretty much dumb anime shit, but in 3D.

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Anonymous Mon Jun 17 03:30:25 2013 No.809665

>>809605

>Im not sure how Street Fighter and Darkstalkers counts as "dumb anime"

Instead of clean, clear fighting action, it was a bunch of anime characters doing overly flashy moves at each other to appeal to kids. Nowadays it's much worse, but even early anime fighters suffered badly from that. "Style over substance" as they say

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 17 03:34:24 2013 No.809674 File: 117 KB, 355x236, WCddLCj.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>809665 >Instead of clean, clear fighting action, it was a bunch of anime characters doing overly flashy moves at each other And it... was... GLOOOOORIOUS!

Anonymous Mon Jun 17 03:34:54 2013 No.809675

>>809665

>DS
>Style over substance

stahp

The Vampire series were some of the deeper fighting titles of the 90s, particularly after the games hit their stride. Not to mention the animation style is hardly "anime". It closer resembles western cartoons in motion, with its exaggerated and slapstick animation frames.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 17 03:36:54 2013 No.809684 Japanese fighters were for kids, Mortal Kombat was for teens, and adults were playing RPGs and Strategy games on their PCs

Anonymous Mon Jun 17 03:57:55 2013 No.809735

>>809684
>and adults were playing RPGs and Strategy games on their PCs

I knew a lot of kids playing Street Fighter, Mortal Kombat and Command and Conquer back in the day.
I knew a lot of adults playing Street Fighter, Mortal Kombat and Command and Conquer back in the day.Stop thinking people played vidya according to their age, this was never true.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 17 04:04:25 2013 No.809759 >>809635 the movie based on that book was pretty good, and that scene was pretty funny too. The arcade game they were playing on in the film was based off of MK. polite sage for off-topic post

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 17 04:04:55 2013 No.809760 Mortal Kombat is worst of the popular fighters. When Tekken and SF were being awesome in the PS1 days, it was still clunky, with bad controls and looked like shit.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 17 04:11:25 2013 No.809778 >>809684 >adults were playing RPGs and Strategy games on their PCs Nah. I played a shit load of RPG, Turn-based, strategy on PC back in 90 when I was 12. Adult play prince of persia.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 17 04:11:55 2013 No.809782 >>809778 90s not exactly 90.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 17 04:21:25 2013 No.809804 File: 91 KB, 396x594, anisly.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >mfw landing Kano's fatality in MKII No other fighting game will have a finisher that satisfying.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 17 04:28:55 2013 No.809818 >>809804 >implying MKII wasn't just Kano dittos: the game

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 17 04:37:25 2013 No.809846 >>809804 >Kano >MKII The fuck version did you play?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 17 04:43:55 2013 No.809857 File: 46 KB, 473x346, 1370608588741.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>809846 >he doesn't know about Kano transformations

Anonymous Mon Jun 17 04:45:25 2013 No.809858

>>809196
1. there was nothing of the like with such HQ digitized graphics at the time
2. there was nothing of the like with so much blood or the ability to kill your opponent, at the time
3. the character design and storyline is actually very entertaining
4. graphics, sound, and gameplay were top notch for the first two games - it was the first game with juggling for example.
5. shit ton of hidden stuff

So it was doing several unheard of things at the time, utilized a few gimmicks successfully, and beneath all the gimmicks it was actually a VERY solid game.

They went full on retarded after MK3 though, even though I liked it and UMK3.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 17 04:50:26 2013 No.809865 File: 452 KB, 493x1000, Scorpion.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] It was popular because GET OVER HERE

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 17 04:55:25 2013 No.809879 File: 106 KB, 700x394, mynigga.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>809269 >Reptile we e-huggin' now my nigga

Anonymous Mon Jun 17 04:58:25 2013 No.809882
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>>809858

>MK3
>NO NINJAS BESIDES UNMASKED, SHITTY SUB-ZERO
>ROBOTS REPLACED THE NINJAS, DIDN'T HAVE THE SAME SWAG
>FUCKING KURTIS STRYKER STINKING UP THE PLACE
>NO JOHNNY CAGE
>NO FEMALE NINJAS
>NO SCORPION (I KNOW I MENTIONED THIS AT "NO NINJAS" BUT *FUCK*

FUCK

EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 17 04:59:25 2013 No.809886 >>809882 ALSO NO RAIDEN NO FUCKING ANYTHING HOW DID I HANDLE THIS SHIT AS A KID?

Vile Mon Jun 17 04:59:55 2013 No.809887

Because it was a solid game and had a fun coating.
Though every game between MK3 / MKT and the most recent has been ass.
I'm actually amazed they were able to pull back from the awfulness.

Though I did enjoy the roaming story modes of some of them, running around the world and fighting bitches, was pretty cool.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 17 05:03:25 2013 No.809892 >>809887 d-did you just say Mortal Kombat Trilogy is ass?

>>	Vile Mon Jun 17 05:05:56 2013 No.809901 >>809892 No, it's my favorite one in the series. Do you think I'm insane?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 17 05:07:55 2013 No.809904 >>809901 I thought that you meant mkt as trilogy.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 17 05:08:25 2013 No.809906 >>809904 He was saying every game in between point A and point B have been ass. Point A being the Mortal Kombat 3 & Trilogy Era, Point B being the latest Mortal Kombat game

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 17 05:22:55 2013 No.809916 >>809846 >not knowing about kano transformations pleb

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 17 05:46:55 2013 No.809959 >>809605 >Virtua Fighter Man I remember playing that in the arcade back in the day. All dat moon jumping. Strait up ridiculous.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 17 05:55:25 2013 No.809981 Because it's like to watch a trashy splatter movie, so bad it's so good.

Anonymous Mon Jun 17 12:17:56 2013 No.810529

>>809882
I can lie here was my reaction
>At arcade in the mall with big bro
>Stop over to see MK3 that came in last week
>Early morning on a Monday so the arcade is empty.
>Watch a few minutes of demoing while looking over the roster.
>Me:W-where Scorpion? I like him. Why they get rid of him? I can't play this.
>see Cyrax on demo play
>dat capture, net dat bomb throw, dat teleport
>Big brother:Sorry they got rid of your favorite guy, kiddo
>Me: uh, who? oh, yeah, yellow ninja guy. hey do we have time to play it?
We played a good hour and it was a blast.

Anonymous Mon Jun 17 12:35:26 2013 No.810559

Before MK2 came out I watched this spic play as Johnny Cage on the first. He was knocking heads like a madman. Then the CPU beat him.

He took one of the quarters he had lined up and drove it as hard as he could into the protective plastic covering the monitor, driving the entire machine back on its heels and causing his Hispaniard associate to freak out. "You're gonna break it!"

"With THIS...?" he held up the quarter in the guys' face, hands quivering with anger.

I left.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 17 12:42:26 2013 No.810573 >>809227 pretty much this it was made when 1v1 fighters were REALLY taking off, and basically just supposed to be "Street Fighter 2 with blood". The violence and fantasy/eastern theme sort of stuck with people.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 17 12:44:56 2013 No.810578 >>809242 Shut up, you cunt.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 17 12:50:56 2013 No.810591 >>809259 MK Trilogy still plays exceptionally well, to this day.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 17 13:08:26 2013 No.810632 >>809239 MK9 is a good game. Nice rebirth of the series, decent gameplay. If MK10 goes for 60FPS next gen (which it probably will) the series might truly shine like never before.

Anonymous Mon Jun 17 13:09:56 2013 No.810635

>>809495
Yeah but then they switched on that and MKII+ were all released with blood on Nintendo.

Kind of annoyed me because I ended up buying a Genesis just because of the MKII hype at the time. I thought Nintendo would release another gimped censored version.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 17 13:13:26 2013 No.810650 >>809495 Super Nintendo had Doom. Nintendo briefly considered the 'family friendly' approach but they realised it would be business suicide.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 17 13:14:56 2013 No.810653 >>809865 That was seriously such a badass fucking move.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 17 13:18:56 2013 No.810671 >>809882 That's why they released Ultimate MK3. Don't know what they were thinking with MK3.

Anonymous Mon Jun 17 13:21:56 2013 No.810684

MK when it first came out had a lot of violence. That's why pretty much anyone played it. Aside from that, MK is a terrible fighting game in comparison to almost any other fighting game. ( I would say Shaq Fu is better than the original MK and possible MKII) .It's controls are shit, it's mechanics are shit, and for the most part those who know how fighting games work will not play it. MK9 and UMK3 are the only decent fighting games in the MK series.

But it did make violence glamorous. That's all it had. Tobias Boon never really cared about making a good fighting game, he cared about making a good violent game.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 17 13:26:56 2013 No.810703 File: 57 KB, 341x493, dontaskwhy.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>809334 >They both exploded, laughing

Anonymous Mon Jun 17 13:31:27 2013 No.810723
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>>809858
>even though I liked it and UMK3

Awww man, I have such fond memories of UMK3. After school I used to go to my friend's house, we were in sixth grade. He had an older brother in eighth grade who'd call his friend over. The four of us would put on the 2v2 team battle mode on SNES (me and my friend vs the two older guys) and play for like two hours straight. It happened so unexpectedly, none of us thought that we'd be playing UMK3 on SNES of all games when we had an N64 with Mario Kart et al sitting right next to it.

I was good, my friend and his older brother were shitty and the last guy was also good. I knew this one fucking dial-a-combo from Robot Smoke that was guaranteed something like 42% damage every time if connected with the teleport uppercut and spear (scorpion get-over-here type) move. Used to piss them off so fucking much.

It wasn't a great game, very unbalanced, dial-a-combo shit is cheap, but it will always hold a special place in my heart. Plus the single player was a beast to beat, at least on the SNES version. I have one video recorded from when I was like 9 playing through it and I managed to successfully beat it in the video. Felt pretty good. The roster was good, too.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 17 13:47:27 2013 No.810761 >>809260 Really, I'm from the same area and I remember we all basically LARPed MK3 during recess. They always made me be Stryker even though I only played MK1...

Anonymous Mon Jun 17 14:06:26 2013 No.810812

>>809540

Midway was known for putting bullshit AI in all their games in order to maximize profit. (See NBA Jam, where if you play as the Bulls the AI goes into maximum overdrive, since it came out during the first threepeat and every kid in the country would pick them) MK didn't start getting noob or tourney friendly until 9, pretty much

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 17 14:11:56 2013 No.810827 >>810812 NBA Hangtime on 64 was like that. You could use the gameshark to be up 100 points from the beginning of the game, but the AI will catch up every time.

Anonymous Mon Jun 17 14:13:56 2013 No.810832
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I hated mortal kombat when it came out.
Loved Way of the Exploding Fist and Yie Ar kung Fu from the beginning. Moves had to be precisely timed. Moves corresponed logically to real moves. 32 or more moves with joystick. Twitch speed and exact distance.
(or for the real connoisseurs: Shanghai Kid (1985) which had a remarkably advanced kombat system,)

Mortal kombat comes along:
make believe martial arts, fantasy moves
gimmicks and gore more important than gameplay or depth
most joystick directions are empty, one or two special move combinations are all that matters, uppercut frenzy

Anonymous Mon Jun 17 14:16:27 2013 No.810840

>>810832
If you want realistic fighting go join a fucking muay thai club. I wanna shoot spears out of my palm that stab people in the throat. And to finish them off I want to rip the flesh off of my own face, revealing my skull which then breathes fire and incinerates their corpse.

Fucking realistic fighting. Get outta here that pussy shit.

Anonymous Mon Jun 17 14:21:26 2013 No.810859

>>809196
As batshit stupid as it may sound, I loved MK for the story. I played it around 1993/4 and until then all I had played where platformers where the most story you got was one sentence in the manual at best. Seeing that every character in MK had a backstory and their own ending was really neat.

Yeah it's a stupid plot now, but cut me some slack, I was 10 at the time, and kids are easily amazed.

Captain Jean-Luc Picard of the(...) Mon Jun 17 14:24:56 2013 No.810867

>>810840
I was going to say I understand and respect Yie Ar Kung Fu's opinion since he had reasonable, uh reasons to back it up.

The same basic move set, and control scheme is just simple brilliance to me. I love cranking up the difficulty and using special moves sparingly. Its fucking satisfying as hell landing a roundhouse in some fuckface's mouth, or sweeping his ass when he goes for a roundhouse.

Anonymous Mon Jun 17 14:27:56 2013 No.810871

>>810840
>join a muay thai club
But..but anon, I did that that already!
No, seriously I do a lot of IRL combat stuff, and I agree about video games lacking realism is the entire point. That said, there's a difference between SF's well thought out "overly stylized real world M.A" (boxing, muay thai and karate all have decent representation) but MK's "fantasy" martial arts always felt like a very bad mcdojo or an 80s flic
>BUT THATS THE INTENTION
But I do actually like MK, especially MK2 and the new MK reboot.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 17 14:29:57 2013 No.810874 File: 403 KB, 550x850, draxxon.the.black.dragon.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>810859 Posting scans from MK komics.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 17 14:30:26 2013 No.810876 File: 359 KB, 550x850, hydro.mk.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] The never-before-seen water-based Lin Kieu ninja, Hydro.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 17 14:31:26 2013 No.810878 File: 374 KB, 550x850, grum.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Grum went out early in the first rounds.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 17 14:32:26 2013 No.810881 File: 326 KB, 550x850, henge.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Henge gonna F your S

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 17 14:32:56 2013 No.810883 File: 387 KB, 550x850, bo.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Johnny Cage's bodyguard, Bo

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 17 14:33:27 2013 No.810885 File: 392 KB, 550x850, wynd.rayne.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] The ORIGINAL Rayne and her sister, Wynd.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 17 14:34:56 2013 No.810886 File: 872 KB, 1800x1355, specialforces.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Sonya and original Special Forces crew

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 17 14:37:57 2013 No.810894 >>809665 Are you implying MK had more substance than, let's say, Street Fighter?

>>	Captain Jean-Luc Picard of the(...) Mon Jun 17 14:38:57 2013 No.810897 how come everybody in comics looks like they just walked out of an oil spill

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 17 14:40:56 2013 No.810902 Has the best atmosphere/lore/mythos of any fighting series, cleanest gameplay mechanics, and most stylish kills and attacks

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 17 15:03:56 2013 No.810962 >>809334 http://vocaroo.com/i/s1yK8Y1t7siG

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 17 15:17:56 2013 No.810994 Did you know that the cpu for MK1 and 2 reacts differently depending on which player side you use? The computer is less cheap on the player 2 side.

Anonymous Mon Jun 17 15:33:57 2013 No.811043

>>809196
These days nostalgia. Back in the day, because as horribly rigid and shit as it was it didn't have much in the way of competition aside from street fighter. Fighters were in general fairly shit except for in the arcade. Though having a console port makes it even more accessible when you go to the arcade.
Relegating KOF and Virtua Fighter to arcade goers or people with rarer systems like saturn/neo geo.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 17 15:38:26 2013 No.811058 >>810632 I knew they were still making MK for those five people that still play it, but shit they're up to ten now? Still about thirty five games behind street fighter.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 17 15:39:56 2013 No.811062 >>810650 You know what would be more business suicide. Releasing Doom for the SNES. That port was seriously terrible. Really fucking terrible.

Anonymous Mon Jun 17 15:49:26 2013 No.811086
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The palette swap ninjas are the funnest fighting game characters to play as. Didn't care for the rest of the cast much, but that Scorpion, Sub-zero, Reptile, Rain, Noob Saibot, Ermac, and Smoke were awesome. Better in the 2D games than in 3D though. They tried to make them too different from each other in the 3D games, and I liked them more when they all looked and felt familiar but with different strategies and usefulness coming from their special attacks

The games also had a lot of humor and lightheartedness alongside the grimdark, sort of like Warhammer 40k. Half the characters come from jokes. Like Rain here, who wears purple, and is a Prince

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 17 15:52:56 2013 No.811093 >>810897 Because Rob Liefeld.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 17 15:53:57 2013 No.811097 >>811086 You're not allowed to call him Noob Saibot anymore, Ed Boon has erased John Tobias from history. His name is just Noob.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 17 15:55:57 2013 No.811108 >>811097 He has his full name in MK9

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 17 15:56:57 2013 No.811110 File: 61 KB, 610x458, got-king-joffrey_610[1].jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>811097 Anyone who calls the man Noob IS a noob as far as I'm concerned 5 silver coins to the man who brings me the head of any man who calls Noob Saibot "Noob"

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 17 15:57:27 2013 No.811113 >>811097 >Ed Boon has erased John Tobias from history. Why? He was buttmad that the guy wasn't on board for MK9? Shouldn't fuck with the character's name tbh. Noob Saibot sounded grand. 'Noob' sounds like, well, 'noob' which is fucking dumb.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 17 15:58:27 2013 No.811117 >>810723 >having friends get out

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 17 15:59:27 2013 No.811121 >>811108 No he doesn't. You're clearly a "noob" at that game.

Anonymous Mon Jun 17 17:11:27 2013 No.811367
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>>810859
I don't think it's stupid. (Mainly because that's the exact reason I loved it growing up.) We're probably the same age.

I spent more time pretending to be Reptile with my friends than actually playing the damn game. I loved the story, and the world. To a dumb 10 year old it was really original.

For gameplaying's sake I really did enjoy trying to master fatalities and special moves.

Favorite out of the series was probably MK3.

I had some of those comics too!

I also wrote in to Cracked magazine and bitched them out for making fun of Mortal Kombat in an issue. I said something like "Why don't you go make fun of Leonardo DiCaprio or something!" and they sent me back this really dry letter with a copy of their newest issue. Pic related.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 17 17:13:57 2013 No.811375 File: 25 KB, 479x107, 1369339955095.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>811117 This is /vr/, not /v/.

Anonymous Mon Jun 17 17:15:57 2013 No.811381

Easy inputs led to a simplified combat system that was easier than most other fighting games.

A focus on style that led to this weird Metal/Kung Fu/Japanese Mysticism world that is completely retarded but in a way that makes everyone kind of like it.

One of the few fighting games that worked on most controllers without need of an arcadestick (though it depends on your pad).

Pick up and play. Americans don't like putting thought into things.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 17 17:19:28 2013 No.811401 >>811381 >Pick up and play. Americans don't like putting thought into things. Call me when a Jap wins quakecon

Anonymous Mon Jun 17 17:23:28 2013 No.811415

>>811401
Call me when Quakecon gets popular again outside of its own niche.

Oh wait, it isn't, because Americans aren't interested in kiddy-Quake-3 bullshit. It's all about that GRITTY Call of Duty.

Meanwhile, Japan still has a bustling arcade business and a great, "toughen up or die" arcade culture.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 17 17:27:57 2013 No.811441 >>811110 Noob is the black Ninja main. Saibot is the clone. Straight from Boon's mouth.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 17 17:40:28 2013 No.811481 >>810671 MK3 was rushed and had a ton of stuff unimplemented. UMK3 fixed that (but they also removed some of the backgrounds, mostly due to criticism of too many boon/tobias name cameos).

Anonymous Mon Jun 17 17:43:57 2013 No.811489

>>810723
>I knew this one fucking dial-a-combo from Robot Smoke that was guaranteed something like 42% damage every time if connected with the teleport uppercut and spear

You should've just done a jumpkick and cancel it to air throw as it hits. It's way more cruel since it does a little more damage in only THREE hits.

Anonymous Mon Jun 17 17:45:27 2013 No.811493

>>811415

>Call me when Quakecon gets popular again outside of its own niche.
>its own niche

Its niche being people who like putting thought into their gameplay, hence why the Japanese don't play it. The japs like games where they can just practice the same thing over and over again for years with as little variables as possible. Anything requiring on-the-fly intelligent thinking, they shy away from, especially if it'll require more than a few seconds of concentration

Anonymous Mon Jun 17 17:50:27 2013 No.811502

>>811493
The Japanese don't play it because they don't like FPS.

All the things you mentioned about Quake are shared by the grand majority of fighting games, and most Japs do better than Americans even after practicing games they generally don't like (UMvC3).

It's about practice and the culture that facilitates your thought processes. Japs have a brutal arcade culture and also put a lot of practice into fighting games, making them good at those.

Quake players had a intense online culture to play with and the players had a lot of practice, making them some of the best FPS players in the world.

Go fuck yourself.

Anonymous Mon Jun 17 17:55:58 2013 No.811513

>>811502

>The Japanese don't play it because they don't like FPS.

Right, I already told you they don't like games that require real skill and thought

>All the things you mentioned about Quake are shared by the grand majority of fighting games

In an FPS you have to navigate around a map, restricting your opponent from reaching the critical points and items by moving more gracefully than him and outaiming him in a precise 3D space with the intuition to know what weapon to use at any time over the course of 10 minutes. In a fighter two guys on a small 2D plane slap buttons for combos they memorized until one of their health goes down, ending in less than a minute

FPS has far more to take into account, and the few things it shares with fighting games it does a lot better. Fighting games are a joke in the world of competitive video games

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 17 17:59:57 2013 No.811526 >>811513 Reread the last line of my post.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 17 17:59:57 2013 No.811528 >>811513 Japanese don't play FPS because they have a genetic weakness to motion sickness.

Anonymous Mon Jun 17 18:02:27 2013 No.811543

>>811526

Don't make me type "you mad." I already showed you you're wrong. I don't care how hard people practice at fighting games, that doesn't make them require more skill. You can practice hopscotch and candyland all you want, they're still not serious sports/games

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 17 18:03:28 2013 No.811550 >>811543 If fighting games are so easy why don't you go to EVO? I heard the cash prize is pretty big.

Anonymous Mon Jun 17 18:08:28 2013 No.811573
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people liked mk because it was the violent alternative to street fighter.
the mk fad died at mk3 vanilla because the roster change and the run button. mk2 players had accept umk3 or drop the series

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 17 18:10:57 2013 No.811586 >>811573 Also don't forget a whole series of shitty games all the way up to MK9. Shaolin Monks

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 17 18:12:57 2013 No.811603 >>811573 UMK3 is still considered one of the more competitive-level MKs MK2 was terribly broken, especially if you were a Reptile player. He has a 100% lockdown in that game.

Anonymous Mon Jun 17 18:28:28 2013 No.811654

>>811573
I completely loved MK3 after I got over the initial shock of "WHY THE FUCK NO SCORPION FUCK EVERYTHING AMERICA IS RUINED".

I lost interest at UMK3's extreme cheapness.
>Drop two tokens into UMK3
>Select character (probably Cyrax)
>Jade is the first fight
>Get my dick kicked off in probably less than ten seconds

yeah, fuck that.

Then MK4 came out in 3D, which I guess was necessary at the time, but I wasn't interested at all.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 17 18:52:58 2013 No.811740 File: 17 KB, 242x302, 1rep.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>811603 I've never heard anyone mention that about Reptile, usually people say he's terrible. He is my favorite though.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 17 18:53:28 2013 No.811742 File: 389 KB, 1024x727, lounge lizard.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>811740 You could say that he is a real lounge lizard.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 17 18:54:29 2013 No.811746 >>811062 Better than the genesis version.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 17 18:55:28 2013 No.811754 File: 64 KB, 480x270, my face when.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>811654 This. Am I crazy, or did Jade have like infinite run mode or something, even when I play it today it seems like she moves way too fast and never fatigues.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 17 18:55:58 2013 No.811756 >>811441 You know what else comes straight from Boon's mouth? Dicks.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 17 18:56:58 2013 No.811757 File: 10 KB, 50x99, title-tyson_tomko.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>811742 YYYYYYYYYYYEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

Anonymous Mon Jun 17 19:07:28 2013 No.811794
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>>809675
>Not to mention the animation style is hardly "anime". It closer resembles western cartoons in motion, with its exaggerated and slapstick animation frames.
The first thing out of lots of Japanese players' mouths when they first saw Darkstalkers in action back in 1994 was "Holy shit, it's like a Disney cartoon!" Famous fighting game player Sako has even gone on the record as saying that was his first impression back then.

Anonymous Mon Jun 17 19:14:29 2013 No.811828
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Mortal Kombat was literally the only fighting series I played as a child, I judged games by the graphics, so I refused to give the other guys a fair chance, they were ugly to me. It wasn't until I was in my mid 20s that I went and downloaded a bunch of emulators and roms and discovered that I had missed out on some really good fighting engines.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 17 20:24:59 2013 No.812068 >>811828 Damn son, what a tragic way to be a kid. Well, at least you know now right?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 17 21:52:29 2013 No.812350 File: 20 KB, 77x140, Scorpion.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IcR2wPukNR8

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 17 21:57:00 2013 No.812369 >>812350 One of the best menu themes of the MK2 ports. Sadly the rest of the SNES music sounds butchered.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 17 22:02:59 2013 No.812385 >>812068 Yeah, I actually rejected the larger portion of retro games in all genres due to that policy, so this board has been a boon for learning about great games I missed.

Anonymous Mon Jun 17 22:02:59 2013 No.812386

It really was pretty cool at the time because that sort of gore was still new and kind of a shocking novelty. Game was pretty fun too and the characters (and their mannerisms) from the first couple of games were extremely memorable.

One of the biggest facets of pop culture back then was edginess. MK was on the very cusp of that and helped usher in that era where ads could say "YOU BABIES STILL STUCK ON [rival established franchise, usually brighter and anime-inspired]? LEAVE THE WET DIAPER BEHIND AND GET [new video game], THE MOST GORY AND VIOLENT AND HARDCORE EXPERIENCE EVER."

Anonymous Mon Jun 17 22:43:59 2013 No.812551
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Anon, you know how some people have THE favorite franchise? Like there's zeldafags or SW fans who have to consume anything even tangentially related to their favorite brand, right..?

MK is like that for me. Franchise of the year all years.

I just fell in love with the universe as a kid before even getting a chance to play any of the games. It's like it encompassed everything cool that my feeble 6-year -old mind could conjure.

>dat mysterious, sinister atmosphere (pic extremely fucking related)
>dem iconic character designs
>dem NINJAS, NINJAS EVERYWHERE
>dat hundreds of secrets that fueled an entire generation of crazy, outrageous schoolyard rumors
>dat badass soundtrack with deliciously evil Asian undertones
>dem over-the-fucking-top finishers

Oh, and the actual fighting is also fun, I suppose.

The main reason I love MK is the story, though.
>in b4 lol playan fightan gaems for the story

Seriously, the MK lore and characters are developed enough and expansive enough to support a full-blown epic RPG on the scale of Mass Effect. The untapped potential is enormous, and it breaks my heart not to see it fully realized. I love me some Jade Empire, but the whole time I was playing it, I was thinking "why couldn't this be an MK game?"

If I see something like that come to fruition in my lifetime, I can die a happy man.

/autism

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 17 22:47:59 2013 No.812572 >>811828 >graphics Funny thing is, MK is uglier than most other 2d fighters. Its entire appeal relies on the digitized model effect, and most moves had a smaller frame count than their predecessors. Just saiyan.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 17 23:38:29 2013 No.812773 >>811586 But Shaolin Monks is one of the best co-op games of all time

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 17 23:39:29 2013 No.812779 >>809196 Becuase it's better than that street fighter fagottry.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 17 23:44:59 2013 No.812817 ave gaming age was younger not a lot of 2D fighters at time of release "real" characters (digitized photos) violence sells

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 18 00:25:59 2013 No.813021 File: 23 KB, 72x128, Nightwolf-mk3-fix2.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] because its fun

TheGoGetta !!UcqnaDUJRd2 Tue Jun 18 01:13:59 2013 No.813206

>>812551
Are you me, because that's how I feel about the MK franchise.

The game were fun(some of them. Fuck MK Armageddon) and the lore is so interesting. Most fighting games stories are pretty mediocre or shitty to me but MK is so interesting and it's easier to get in.

Mortal Kombat will forever be my favorite franchise over Sonic, Megaman, Mario, streets of Rage and Resident Evil.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 18 03:21:00 2013 No.813501 >>811543 >spacing >field control >prediction >pressure >mixups not that guy, but you're wrong. Or trolling.

Anonymous Tue Jun 18 07:38:02 2013 No.813804
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>>811654
I think MK4 is unfairly shit on. It had a decent fighting engine, graphics, good fatalities (I think Scorpion or someone had one where he rips off the guy's leg and starts relentlessly beating the dude with it. Maximum lol) and lots of new characters. It was fast, too. Plus it had this evasive 3D move where the guy could take a step forward or backwards in 3D to avoid a projectile. I thought that was kinda cool. It also had weapons which were badass as fuck.

I also enjoyed the story FMV videos for each character that you get to see when you beat the game.

Why is MK4 hated on?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 18 10:24:43 2013 No.814059 >>812551 the MK Lore was great even though there are some bad characters (Mokap) it was neatly balanced by cool guys (Havik)

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 18 11:14:44 2013 No.814150 2, 1, 2, down, up

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 18 12:14:29 2013 No.814282 >>813804 Yeah, MK4 was actually pretty good for it's time. People often forget that it made that transition to 3D way smoother than a lot of other fighting games. >captcha: YOEMON uppstit

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 18 12:17:30 2013 No.814285 >>813804 Polygons. Turned me off.

Anonymous Tue Jun 18 12:22:00 2013 No.814296

>>813804
It was an awkward game. I remember when it first came out and I saw Sub-Zero rip someone's head of in 3d, I thought it was the shit. Afterward though you realize how clunky the characters look and the animation just feels off. Still fun to play.

The weapons were completely busted though.

Anonymous Tue Jun 18 12:50:48 2013 No.814342
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>>812572
Of course, I'm aware of that now, but as a child, I saw 'real human beings in cool outfits' vs 'poorly drawn sprites', or 'extremely low polygonal count'. I remember when my arcade first got a Killer Instinct machine, we all crowded around, I took one look at the character select and walked away. I had no idea that MK3 had borrowed from them.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 19 11:32:39 2013 No.817381 bamf

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