/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.8089263]

I'm starting to think the only reason we have remakes of Resident Evil 1-3 is because 4 was already perfect.

[Anonymous No.8089265]

You have a fatal lack of imagination, that has to be fucking awful going through life like that.

[Anonymous No.8089272]

>>8089263
classic res needed to be modernized because todays zoomers dont understand tank controls. RE4 will be modernized at some point in the future to a FPS because over the shoulder view is too confusing for future zoomers

[Anonymous No.8089289]

>>8089272
That's because tank controls are depreciated. Unlike analog sticks to dpads, tank controls are not a lateral move. They are objectively worse.

[Anonymous No.8089291]

>>8089265
I drive an Accord and wear Old Navy. Don't even begin to assume how basic I am.

[Anonymous No.8089331]

>>8089289
>Objectively
They limit your movement and force you to orient yourself. They're supposed to be restrictive. It's a horror game, and you're supposed to feel helpless.

[Anonymous No.8089345]

>>8089331
Then up the horror to match it.
Oh wait, Re4...

[Anonymous No.8089357]

>>8089345
Both are good, RE 1-3 and RE4 went for different things and both worked in different ways. That doesn't make tank controls objectively bad.

[Anonymous No.8089367]

[Anonymous No.8089378]

>>8089367
For anyone who doesn't speak paella and bullfighting, Jill is talking about how she needs to conserve ammo, and Leon says something like "look at all these supplies dropping from enemies". Not sure though, been a while since I studied siestaland

[Anonymous No.8089384]

>>8089263
They're just going in order. I think 4 is confirmed getting a remake at some point? Anyways 1-3 also play a lot different then 4 and after so it makes sense that if they want to 'modernize them' (their words probably, not mine) that they'd remake those.
Personally I wouldn't mind seeing a remake of Zero and CV as well.

[Anonymous No.8089387]

>>8089384
zero and CV are not popular enough

[Anonymous No.8089389]

>>8089367
Left is retarded gamey bullshit. "I only have X bullets so I can only knock down Y zombies". In any "real" zombie apocalypse you'd be killing zombies with melee weapons, cf. any zombie game that isn't Resident Evil

[Anonymous No.8089393]

>>8089387
Sadly that's probably true but on the flipside that's exactly WHY they should be remade imo.

[Anonymous No.8089394]

>>8089389
Lots of people do knife runs, anon

[Anonymous No.8089398]

>>8089389
>In any "real" zombie apocalypse you'd be killing zombies with melee weapons
Why? I guess depending on where you live but in America there's enough ammo lying around that you realistically wouldn't run out within your lifetime.

[Anonymous No.8089404]

>>8089367
>>8089378
>not already having more bullets than there are people in your city
The game was rigged from the start.

[Anonymous No.8089410]

>>8089394
>lots of people do challenge runs
And?

[Anonymous No.8089416]

>>8089398
Because it's wasteful

[Anonymous No.8089417]

>>8089416
If you're not going to use the billions of bullets around to defend yourself from zombies what the fuck ARE you going to use it for?

[Anonymous No.8089420]

I hope they never make a RE4/5 remake.
The games are perfectly fine the way they are.

[Anonymous No.8089421]

>>8089417
Human bandits/raiders obviously

[Anonymous No.8089424]

>>8089417
>>8089416
>>8089404
>>8089398
Part of the strategy of the game is inventory management, and that includes ammo. If you're in a dusty old mansion, why do you think there'd be ammo everywhere anyway?

[Anonymous No.8089431]

>>8089424
We're not talking about the game, anon. Anyways you don't have to really manage your ammo in 3 anyways. It's easily busted.

[Anonymous No.8089445]

>>8089424
>inventory management
Lol.

[Anonymous No.8089471]

I main Red 9.

[Anonymous No.8089478]

>>8089389
>Gamey bullshit
>In a video game
Really surprising anon, who would've thought?

[Anonymous No.8089492]

>>8089478
why do you defend ludonarrative dissonance?

[Anonymous No.8089514]

>>8089445
Why do tankfags think this is ok?

[Anonymous No.8089517]

>>8089492
t. game journalist

[Anonymous No.8089519]

>>8089514
RE4 technically has tank controls and a proper tetris inventory that fixes this issue, so it's not a tankfag thing.

[Anonymous No.8089525]

>>8089519
>and a proper tetris inventory that fixes this issue
RE4's invo management is such a joy.

[Anonymous No.8089527]

>>8089420
I'm replaying RE4 and just started 5 too. Both are damn good. I recommend getting a mod to remove the green filter on 5. Take it off and the game looks 10x better https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uEAvFouiTLw

[Anonymous No.8089532]

I want an RE1 remake. Tank controls + fixed camera angels are gayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

[Anonymous No.8089536]

>>8089527
I'll never understand the mindset of wanting to remove the color grading from games. Movies have been color graded for decades for the same reason games are. That shit makes RE5 look like a happy-go-lucky far cry 1 island vacation.

[Anonymous No.8089565]

>>8089527
I loved 5, holy fuck mercenary mode was orgasmic.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FU1GhSDbXQ

[Anonymous No.8089575]

>>8089492
Sometimes it is cool and impressive, but usually if the game is good then it doesn't really matter. Blast Corps is probably the strongest example of comically bad alignment of gameplay and story, and it's fun as hell.

[Anonymous No.8089621]

>>8089536
>That shit makes RE5 look like a happy-go-lucky far cry 1 island vacation.
That fits the action style of RE5 much better, since there isn't much horror going on the green filter doesn't add to the experience.

>>8089565
I want to try that after I beat it, and probably the higher difficulties.

[Anonymous No.8089631]

>>8089519
They regressed back to the 6 slot system in RE2make and RE3make. It's not a tankfag thing, more like a classicfag thing.

[Anonymous No.8089724]

>re1 stuck in the building
>re2
>re3
>re4
NEW ENGINE
>re7 stuck in the building
>re2re
>re3re
>re4(8)
Bastards

[Anonymous No.8089835]

>>8089724
>stuck in the building
You do go to a different building and then under said building as well. To be fair

[Anonymous No.8089860]

>>8089367
3 doesnt have scarce ammo. You can literally make a fuckton lmao

[Anonymous No.8089872]

>>8089263
Resident evil 4 is still getting the remake for what i have heard

[Anonymous No.8089948]

>>8089263
Gameplay design hasn't really changed much since RE4 came out, what would a remake even be like aside from upgraded graphics?

[Anonymous No.8090005]

>>8089263
No, it's because zoomers can't into static camera angles. Also, Aresident Evil killed the series.

[Anonymous No.8090140]

>4
>perfect

[Anonymous No.8090401]

>>8089948
you'd be able to strafe and move while shooting, so that the entire positioning-based combat system is ruined.
probably able to crouch behind cover too, just to remove any chance of having fun

[Anonymous No.8090508]

>>8089393
ReMake brought 1 up to the same level of polish 0 had. It doesn't need a remake because it's already at the same level as 1-3. It got an HD version for 8th gen systems, so it's good.

[Anonymous No.8090514]

>>8090508
>up to the same level of polish 0 had.
There's more to a game then graphics, retard. Zero is a shit show to play.

[Anonymous No.8090518]

>>8089724
Proof that 5 is the best.

[Anonymous No.8090519]

>>8090514
So then why should it get remade? Talk out both sides of your mouth for (You)s?

[Anonymous No.8090528]

>>8090519
>So then why should it get remade?
To fix the horrible gameplay? Try to follow along you fucking moron. The conversation isn't difficult enough you should be getting lost like this.

[Anonymous No.8090537]

>>8090518
but 6 is the most original

[Anonymous No.8090613]

>>8089263
>No zero or cv remake in the new re engine.
>Remaking 4.

[Anonymous No.8090843]

>>8089263
You're almost there. It's because 4 was perfect and 5 and 6 were attempts at extending from 4, which everyone hated. They didn't know what else to do.

[Anonymous No.8090876]

>>8089527
I want to cum inside of Sheva's ass

[Anonymous No.8090892]

The remake of 1 predates 4, and 2 and 4 were also planned way back, but never came to fruition.

[Anonymous No.8090897]

>>8089536
>Movies have been color graded for decades for the same reason games are.
Yeah, and it looks like shit too.
>DUHHH, HOW WILL THE AUDIENCE KNOW IT'S COLD UNLESS THE SNOW IS GREEN? HOW WILL THE AUDIENCE KNOW THE MOVIE TAKES PLACE IN MEXICO UNLESS EVERYTHING IS YELLOW?

> That shit makes RE5 look like a happy-go-lucky far cry 1 island vacation.
No, it makes it look like fucking Africa

[Anonymous No.8090964]

>>8090897
Next you'll say that stuttery 24fps looks more "cinematic".

[Anonymous No.8091092]

>>8089263
The remakes are trash and so is 4. This is all to appeal to zoomies like you.

[Anonymous No.8091135]

>>8089860
1 has for first time players.

[Anonymous No.8091256]

>>8090401
>so that the entire positioning-based combat system is ruined
Positioning based combat is a meme. It's a leftover from the fixed camera era when RE was an action adventure game and not a purely action game. RE4 would benefit greatly from walking and strafing while aiming. There needs to be a handicap for walking while aiming though, such as 200% more frantic gun sway, to incentivise players to hold on their ground unless very necessary.

[Anonymous No.8091618]

>>8089631
>They regressed back to the 6 slot system in RE2make
Lmao, no

[Anonymous No.8091629]

>>8089527
Has anyone made a mod to implement the ps3 move controls to pc? It’s similar to Wii Re4’s controls which are also missing from the pc port which is odd since they’re perfect for mouse and keyboard.

[Anonymous No.8091637]

>>8089565
Rebecca’s butt melee attack used to make me really hard when I played mercenaries back on the ps3. A shame there’s still a lack of decent Rebecca art or renders.

[Anonymous No.8091661]

>>8091637
the classic red and white bandanna outfit is the best one

[Anonymous No.8091810]

>>8091629
RE5 Gold Edition has a RE4 movement option, for the most part its similar

[Anonymous No.8091812]

>>8091661
how did Capcom get away with her?

[Anonymous No.8091819]

>>8091810
nvm I think that's just for button layout,

[Anonymous No.8091832]

>>8089289
I think classic RE is one of the few cases where tank controls mostly feel natural. I'm too much of a brainlet to break it down precisely but there's an abstracted quality to them that makes it feel less like awkward early 3d(tombraider and silenthill) and closer to an overhead 2d game.

[Anonymous No.8091876]

>>8091832
fixed camera angle helps a lot for tank controls

[Anonymous No.8091889]

I don't know why ppl say RE4 isn't scary, the music and sound effects alone make me shit my pants sometimes. And I don't like playing it in the dark lol

[Anonymous No.8091986]

>>8089532
Get gud kid

[Anonymous No.8092041]

>>8091889
You are underage, or very close to it.

[Anonymous No.8092087]

>>8089532
in the new versions you don't have to play with tank controls

[Anonymous No.8092170]

>>8091889
I don't even find the original RE games scary at all personally but 4 is pretty much horror in theme only and outside a few areas with the chainsaw guys / chicks and the first few encounters with regenerators it doesn't really try to be horror themed. There's a few good tension moments like when you're guarding that one house and when the parasites break out of people's heads to scare the shit out of you but overall, especially in the second half, it doesn't even try.
Though no RE game tries to be scary once they hit the lab section anyways

[Anonymous No.8092213]

>>8089357
>re4 has admittedly awful controls, but that's forgivable because the game is supposed to be scary
>you can't fault the game for not being scary though they just weren't going for horror
???

[Anonymous No.8092345]

>>8090964

[Anonymous No.8092379]

>>8092087
Correct. The HD version of REmake has an alt control scheme with proper analog controls and it works very well.

[Anonymous No.8092618]

>>8091819
it actually disables strafing and some other mechanics to make 5 play more like 4
that's how i finished 5 the first time. i regret it though, the game is more fun when you have all the tools

[Anonymous No.8092717]

>>8092213
>re4 has admittedly awful controls
What the fuck? The controls in RE 4 are great?

[Anonymous No.8092735]

>>8089389
>How dare my videogame be a game

[Anonymous No.8093393]

>first game's remake is basically perfect
>stoked for remake of 2, the best RE
>they turn it into OTS flashlight scare garbage

Fucking retards

[Anonymous No.8093402]

>>8089263
It's already in the making bruh, so much to your shitty take
But you know which masterpiece they WON'T remake?
THATS RIGHT
AAAAAAAHAHAHAHA
SELF RIGHTEOUS FOOLS!
YOU CAN'T HIDE FOREVEAAA!

[Anonymous No.8093414]

>>8090528
>To fix the horrible gameplay?
So you want Capcom to remake RE1 again, but this time turn it into a zoomer action shooter instead of a survival horror classic.

[Anonymous No.8093436]

>>8093414
They will after remaking 4 (which is in development now).

[Anonymous No.8093454]

Sony fans can hate me all they want!
I have 0,1,2,3,4 and code veronica x on one console

[Anonymous No.8093458]

>>8092379
whats wrong with her faaaace

[Anonymous No.8093461]

>>8093393
>first remake
>good

[Anonymous No.8093464]

>>8093461
Yes, it is. Zoom harder retard.

[Anonymous No.8093473]

>>8093461
They already put an alternate simplified zoomzoom control scheme in, are you still too dumb to play it?

[Anonymous No.8093479]

>>8093464
>>8093473
senile boomers will never understand.
Also i would much rather just play the original on the PSOne. That one is actual fun to play.

[Anonymous No.8093490]

>>8093479
Mhmm, imblying you don't like REmake gameplay but like RE1 gameplay, which 7s essentially just the same thing. I doubt that you even played RE1.

[Anonymous No.8093496]

>>8091812
she send that pic as a gift to her partner wesker.

[Anonymous No.8093497]

>>8093479
it's the same fucking thing

[Anonymous No.8093525]

>>8093496
>large corporation
>paying taxes

lolwhat

[Anonymous No.8093580]

>>8093496
>plays piano even when you specifically tell her not to
she knew it was the only way to open up the secret wall and have Chris progress to Wesker

[Anonymous No.8093725]

>>8093479
>senile boomers will never understand
Retarded zoomers will never understand the joy that one derives from a classic RE game because they are too zoom to enjoy a resource management puzzle game. The controls are perfect, and the combat only exists to make you use your resources which forces you to adapt to the new situation where you now have less resources than you did before combat. It is perfect.

[Anonymous No.8093753]

The only RE games i've ever played have been 4 and 5. I tried to play 6 but got bored in like 20 mins.
i also got filtered by the tank controls in the original RE games and am very much still filtered by them to this day.

although i did play like 50 percent of resident evil zero when i realized you're suppose to just
>run away from everything
and only kill the zombies sometimes
maybe i'll give that a go

[Anonymous No.8093823]

>>8089263
1 is good
2 is best
3 is good
CV is good
0 is good
4 is shit
5 is good
6 is ok
7 is good
8 is ok

[Anonymous No.8093852]

>>8093414
>So you want Capcom to remake RE1 again
How are you so bad at following a simple post string? I'm talking about Zero, fucktard. Learn how to follow posts

[Anonymous No.8093867]

>>8093852
>so he wants to turn 0 into a zoomer action shooter
Wow

[Anonymous No.8093874]

>>8093823
>4 is shit
>5 is good
>6 is ok
you been taking stupid pills son?

[Anonymous No.8093906]

>>8093867
0 is dogshit so literally anything would improve it. Also you could just fix the shitty co-op and the fact that you have to throw all your shit on the floor and it would be 80% better already
>>8093874
He's clearly trolling

[Anonymous No.8094029]

>>8089948
A mode where Leon gets to keep his jacket for the entire game.

[Anonymous No.8094218]

>>8089367
how powerful is leon blanco

[Anonymous No.8094241]

>>8089445
didnt the shotgun take up two slots?

[Anonymous No.8094247]

>>8089527
I like the color grading in 5, doesn't feel right to me without it

[Anonymous No.8094251]

>>8094247
Brown and bloom?

[Anonymous No.8094259]

>>8094251
Yeah pretty much, the weird brownish green makes it feel I guess just dirtier and sickly. I also like the way kane and lynch 2 looks, so I am probably just mentally ill

[Anonymous No.8095483]

>>8094241
No.

[Anonymous No.8095662]

>>8093490
>>8093725
I do like how you guys assume im just shitting on the tank controls just because i'm talking crap out the first remake.
The first remake just isn't fun because of the countless stupid inconveniences they decided to mash in. Why can't i escape zombie grabs without additional items? Why do i need to burn them to make sure they stay dead although i already wasted ressources on them? The other puzzle related stuff was pretty smart (even the doorknob shit) but the game is fundamentally not fun.
I love 1, 2, 3 even 0 and CV though. 3 is my favorite. I even fucking replay PE2 every now and then and that one was too much for you senile boomers

[Anonymous No.8095678]

>>8089389
In the early games, if you want realism, you should be able to loot weapons and ammo from all corpses, because we know you'd be able to find stuff on zombie cops or soldiers and every dead guy who got overrun who had a gun. You'd probably not actually run out of ammo if you scrounged around, as long as your gun has a common ammo type like 9mm, 7.62mm or 12 gauge.

[Anonymous No.8095684]

>>8089424
All of the dead members of Alpha and Bravo Team would be fully kitted out with a primary weapon, a sidearm, some ammo and probably some extras like grenades or tools. And then any security personnel that worked for Umbrella inside the mansion.

[Anonymous No.8095702]

>>8091256
The new remakes already figured the system out, you do less damage unless you stand still and let the reticle shrink.

[Anonymous No.8095709]

>>8095662
Don't bother, most of the posters on this board werent even born when the actual RE1 came out and their only experience with the classic games is the HD REmake and think the clunky tedious gameplay of it was how the series always was.

[Anonymous No.8095714]

>>8092379
Tank controls are precise and responsive, but your movement options are limited to make it scary. Most brainlets are probably going to articulate their point badly when trying to defend tank controls, though and we end up with that image.

I think it just comes down to preference. RE games were designed with them in mind, so I'm not going to use that analog control, since it breaks the game and lets you run around like an asshole easily avoiding zombies. But Silent Hill 2 is a joke as far as difficulty goes, so it doesn't matter. Fatal Frame 1-3 I've only played with tank controls, since I think the camera changes would be fucky without them, like how you have to constantly reorient the stick in Devil May Cry 1 due to it having analog movement, but being designed like old RE with fixed camera angles.

[Anonymous No.8095724]

>>8093454
I assume you mean the Gamecube. I have all the RE games on that and it's pretty much the only reason I hook that console up, other than Metroid Prime or to style on zoomer kids in Melee who think they're good because they play Ultimate.

[Anonymous No.8095729]

>>8095662
You have to burn less zombies if you just don't kill any until you get the shotgun and go for headshots. Like 80% of the time they die in one shot and have no head, so no need to burn.

[Anonymous No.8095743]

>>8095729
Waste of Shotgun ammo when the game gives you enough fuel to kill everything in any room you'll visit more than once. Its just tedium to increase the game length.

[Anonymous No.8095864]

they remade 1 and 2 which were both far better than 4

[Anonymous No.8095962]

>>8095662
>likes PE2
Yikes!

[Anonymous No.8096015]

>>8095962
try it fag, it's a great game with lots of post game content

[Anonymous No.8096018]

>>8096015
Not enough fan service .

[Anonymous No.8096120]

>>8089398
shits a dollar a round right now spea/k/ for your self anon! lol

[Anonymous No.8096712]

>>8095864
yup

[Anonymous No.8096724]

>>8095864
¡ la goblina del raccoon city !

[Anonymous No.8096759]

>>8089263
>4 was already perfect.

[Anonymous No.8096762]

>>8096759
el gigante is fun unless you're a soulless dog murderer

[Anonymous No.8096785]

>pre rendered backgrounds
>shit voice acting
>retarded fmvs
ps1 games age like milk

[Anonymous No.8096925]

>>8092717
I wouldnt call tank control in a third person shooter great.
These control make sense in classic re,in re4 not so much.

[Anonymous No.8096932]

>>8096925
tank controls are awkward in fixed camera games because pressing up can make the character move down
when it's behind the back they're perfectly fine

[Anonymous No.8097091]

>>8096785
Prerendered backgrounds are peak soul.

[Anonymous No.8097295]

>>8097091
They look like shit on high res, but playing old games with high res/widescreen is soulless anyway

[Anonymous No.8097320]

>>8089263
They're developing a REmake of 4 right now you simpleton.

[Anonymous No.8097325]

>>8096932
Yes, but tank controls in classic RE is like driving an RC car. You're not too stupid to do that, are you?

[Anonymous No.8097327]

>>8097295
Imagine saying all these words earnestly. You people are all complete faggots.

[Anonymous No.8097385]

>>8097091
I agree. The prerendered and fixed camera system allowed it to be more movie-like with its planning. They could do interesting shots like ones where the camera was claustrophobic and pointing through a window frame and so on. This coudl add to the horror aspect and let them plan exactly what you would see and experience. With player controlled cameras it completely changes everything and means a lot of scripting and planning just doesn't work unless you take control away often and do cutscenes, but that would be more jarring.

The prerendered backgrounds with fixed cameras will always be the peak of the series for me.

[Anonymous No.8097454]

>>8093874
Not the same anon but I like 6 the best out of 4, 5, and 6. Best controls and best melee even if they don't teach the player most of the mechanics. Most of the scenarios suck though. Except Leon's before they get to the church.

That being said it doesn't hold a candle to anything before 4.

[Anonymous No.8097470]

>>8097454
i like 6 mercenaries (no mercy only) but the campaign is anti-fun

[Anonymous No.8097642]

>>8097327
Imo high texture filtering and antialiasing usually makes older games look suitable to modern standards. Use custom textures if possible. Some of this shit is disgusting.

[Anonymous No.8097724]

>>8096932
Its not awkward as long as you can understand that up moves the character forward from his perspective.

[Anonymous No.8097773]

>>8097724
This is asking too much of nu/vr/