/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.8071343]

In 2021 alone, the source code for the following pre-2005 Western video games was leaked to the public:
>2 on 2 Open Ice Challenge (1995, Midway Games)
>Cruis'n USA (1994, Midway)
>Defender (1981, Williams Electronics).
>Eye of the Beholder II: The Legend of Darkmoon (1991, Westwood Associates)
>Hulk (2003, Radical Entertainment)
>Joust (1982, Williams)
>Kelly Slater's Pro Surfer (2002, Treyarch)
>Mad Planets (1983, Gottlieb)
>Narc (1988, Williams)
>NBA Jam (1993, Midway)
>NBA Jam: Tournament Edition (1995, Midway)
>Oni (2001, Bungie West)
>Outlaw Golf (2002, Hypnotix)
>Revolution X (1994, Midway)
>Robotron: 2084 (1982, Vid Kidz)
>The Simpsons: Hit & Run (2003, Radical)
>Sinistar (1983, Williams)
>Smash TV (1990, Williams)
>Stargate (1981, Vid Kidz)
>Total Carnage (1992, Midway)
>Trog (1990, Bally/Midway)
>WWF WrestleMania: The Arcade Game (1995, Midway)

And for non-Nintendo Japanese games:
>...

Why does Japan suck so much at preservation? There was free version control software since the 1990s.

[Anonymous No.8071354]

because you won't stop touching yourself at night

[Anonymous No.8071462]

>>8071354
BOO! GET NEW MATERIAL DUNDERHEAD!

[Anonymous No.8071479]

Japanese are obedient ant people and they can't into computers.

[Anonymous No.8071508]

It seems like Japanese version of preservation is something along the lines of "I know that a fellow Japanese person owns this rare thing, and not some filthy gaijin who would wish to share it with the world, so I am satisfied. Oh, and the owner posted a photo of it on his twitter, even though said collector is entirely incompetent despite being respected in his field, is easily tricked by fakes, and knows nothing about even basic digital backup??? UOOOOOOOHH~~! I'm not worthy, Collector-sama! Show me more potato photos of your Famicom games~!" Maybe it is some weird form of a collectivist society, where simply knowing a fellow countryman is "protecting" it is good enough, like having a painting in a museum?
That said, there are indeed Japanese gamers who support actual preservation.

[Anonymous No.8071521]

>>8071343
Nintendo is a bit of a special case though.
Basically a lot of Nintendo console R&D got outsourced after the N64 to a company that has had many names over the years but is typically known as BroadOn (now owned by Acer). In addition to doing hardware development this company was also responsible for all of Nintendo online infrastructure.
And I mean all of it. NoJ Websites, online game servers and even internal file servers used for source code and other business data.

[Anonymous No.8071536]

>>8071479
HAHAHAAHA!
>obedient like ants
True, to a point. Japanese culture in general is more conservative when it comes to stuff such as honor and working within the circle. Also, tipping a waiter is usually looked down upon over their.
>can't into computers
>What are the FM7, FM Towns line, Sharp MZ, Sharp X1, Sharp X68000, NEC PC-88, Various clones of the 8bit Apple ][, and NEC PC-98

[Anonymous No.8071540]

If you like something, worry about preserving it, and hear/read the phrase "japanese people are preserving it", then understand as "no one's doing it, fix it ASAP".

It puts me at ease that the rest of the world (even other easterners) as preserving retro games, so we can all have a network of preservation that will keep going on and maintaining these games alive. Yeah, sometimes a fag will come in and seethe about piracy (of decades old games), but leave them be and keep preserving.

[Anonymous No.8071557]

>>8071508
There's a fine line between preservation and I AM OWED EVERY THING IN EXISTENCE typical of bullshit humans like you. I want to preserve all of your resources, you owe it to me. deal?

[Anonymous No.8071575]

i dont understand how this is 'preservation'people care way too much about this stuff. its incredibly underwhelming
i hope no source code comes out

[Anonymous No.8071585]

>>8071575
>i hope no source code comes out
Too late for that, I think.

[Anonymous No.8071586]

>>8071343
And nobody is ever going to do anything with 99% of those source codes

[Anonymous No.8071592]

>>8071508
Just because you can't read a line of Japanese to save your life, does not mean they are not preserving software. The problem lies with retard assholes like you, not with them.

[Anonymous No.8071606]

>>8071557
Not that anon, but your bullshit argument doesn't make any logical sense. Preserving software is far different from anything physical, and if you outright ignore that, then you don't have an argument worth listening to. So go be a faggot elsewhere.

[Anonymous No.8071628]

>>8071592
And how do you know? Should we all stop and rely on this "Schrödinger's preservation" from Japan? I've yet to see a single case of "oh, people can still play this ultra rare game, and all thanks to a japanese dude".

[Anonymous No.8071656]

>>8071536
>tipping a waiter is usually looked down upon
Why would I care? You know who isn't looking down on me? The guy who I'm giving a couple extra bucks.

[Anonymous No.8071674]

>>8071343
I just want Armored Core leaks

[Anonymous No.8071676]

>>8071586
>Defender (1981, Williams Electronics)
Someone modified it in order to make it assembled on modern computers.
>NBA Jam (1993, Midway Games)
People used it to see how the rubberbanding worked on the game. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kyk2s4HTPpk
>NBA Jam: Tournament Edition (1995, Midway)
People used it to see how powerful Kerri Hoskins was in the game. https://twitter.com/BriannaWu/status/1412487171710275585
>Oni (2001, Bungie West)
Someone made it buildable on modern Windows versions. https://twitter.com/hogsy16/status/1392804517666766852
>The Simpsons: Hit & Run (2003, Radical)
We got a lot of data about the development of the game. https://tcrf.net/Development:The_Simpsons:_Hit_%26_Run

[Anonymous No.8071689]

>>8071676
*assemblable

[Anonymous No.8071886]

>>8071676
>Brianna Wu
No.

[Anonymous No.8071895]

>>8071628
You wouldn't understand even if I slammed your face with links. Go be a retard faggot with kurt kalata on resetera.

[Anonymous No.8071896]

>>8071676
I'd like to see a deep dive into Revolution X, that game has fascinated me since I was a kid.

[Anonymous No.8071908]

The open-source benefit of game code is very limited; it's far too purpose built. A boon to the modding and hacking communities, sure, but a general public good? That's a stretch.

"Preservation" of something that was never meant to be in the public domain is a completely different thing than legitimate archival. By demanding the former, you undermine the latter.

[Anonymous No.8071931]

>>8071908
>only the things I care about should be considered legitimate archival
Have you considered choking on shit?

[Anonymous No.8071980]

>>8071557
I don't pester people to dump things, in fact I'm completely in the camp of if you want something preserved, do it yourself. That said, just as aggravating/mystifyingly braindead as the beta kiddies who whine and send death threats to people to dump things (that they'll never play, even if they had the ROM) are the Japanese equivalent who sit around jerking off Japanese ecelebs over their collections while whining about gaijin dumping games and desecrating the sanctity of Japanese game developers.
>>8071592
My sincerest apologies to the grassroots groups of Japanese game preservationists whose definition of preservation is more than acquiring a physical artifact and posting photos of it running on a Retro Freak before tossing it into a drawer before trading it off to another like-minded collector. At least that Japanese game preservation society (run in part by a guy from France, amusingly enough) does repair and meaningfully preserve things. And hey, if people want to shit all over western collectors/hoarders, I don't see why the Japanese should be exempt just because they are lesser known to the betakiddies.

[Anonymous No.8072462]

>>8071895
Then do it, or it will sound like a lame excuse. Maybe you should go be a retard faggot sucking the dick of some nips.

[Anonymous No.8072470]

>>8071895
Like you have any lmao

[Anonymous No.8072504]

>>8071676
That's good but
>Brianna Wu

[Anonymous No.8072646]

Something not booing leaked doesn't mean it isn't still preserved somewhere.

[Anonymous No.8073815]

>>8071536
>tipping a waiter is usually looked down upon over their.
It's not. But Japanese honor code means you need to gift someone in return if they give you something, and being a waiter is considered honor enough without needing a gift in addition. So you don't tip, because then you're expecting hte waiter to give you something back like special services.

[Anonymous No.8073882]

>>8072504
>>8071886
John Flint