/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.8061506]

Which one is better?

[Anonymous No.8061510]

>>8061506
3.

[Anonymous No.8061513]

the one where you don't play as a nigger.

[Anonymous No.8061519]

>>8061510
VC improves on 3 in every possible way. Only a contrarian would even consider 3 better.

[Anonymous No.8061525]

Vice City is probably the least buggy, smoothest experience GTA ever made, has a balance between a movie-like story and allowing you to just do what you want, buying businesses, old GTA style vehicle challenges, has probably the best PCJ 600, and VCPR is one of the funniest stations in any game

also you don't play as a nigger

[Anonymous No.8061537]

>>8061519
VC has a shit city that's 1/3rd sand and the radio stations are a step down in every way. Vice City has too many hideous areas that have nothing interesting in them. It's clearly rushed.

[Anonymous No.8061542]

>>8061525
>Vice City is probably the least buggy
Stopped reading here

LMA to the fucking O. all PS2 GTA games are buggy as shit. And VC if anything is more buggy than SA.

[Anonymous No.8061554]

>>8061506
3 > VC > SA

[Anonymous No.8061574]

>>8061506
VC. It took everything best from GTA3 and elevated to insane level. SA was more or less the same just with bigger world and RPG elements nobody cared about.

[Anonymous No.8061583]

The only thing I liked about San Andreas was Big Smoke and his order. And a misanthropic DJ on radio. Everything else felt not enjoyable after VC and Stories. In my opinion, this is where the franchise started going downhill.

[Anonymous No.8061587]

Aesthetically? VC
Mechanically? SA
SA also suffers because you can't ninja kick onto motorcycles like you can in VC

[Anonymous No.8061590]

>half the maps is water
>lol but you can’t swim

[Anonymous No.8061620]

>>8061506
Both are good in their own ways. All I can say is 3 is the worst in the series and it was good too.

[Anonymous No.8061625]

>>8061590
Outside of that boat mission this isn't a real problem.

[Anonymous No.8061631]

>>8061554
3>VC>4>2>1

[Anonymous No.8061654]

>>8061625
Anon the game is set in fucking Miami

[Anonymous No.8061657]

>>8061506
Vice city

[Anonymous No.8061681]

>>8061506
San Andreas. Best mechanics to this day, post SA GTA feels like controlling a pile of molasses. More content than any other GTA game, and I really enjoyed the story. Vice City is fucking fantastic and it's a tough competition but I think San Andreas wins out.

[Anonymous No.8061920]

>>8061542
Idk, I've played through III, VC, and SA on PS2 in the last year and while they're full of janky weirdness the only time a bug ever fucked me over was in a mission in III where you have to knock the guy off the ambulance and then run him over. The enemy NPC got stuck under the pavement and was impossible to hit.

[Anonymous No.8061939]

>>8061654
Yeah and Liberty City is three fucking islands. So what? Swimming deaths are annoying but swimming in games always sucks anyway.

[Anonymous No.8061948]

>>8061506
VC is like a barely playable tech demo for San Andreas where your character is hyper limited for the sake of demonstration and the vehicles and driving physics aren't finished yet.

[Anonymous No.8061960]

Oh no, a small ledge! Bye VCchads, I'll see you when you get around this obstacle someday.

[Anonymous No.8062006]

>>8061939
>but swimming in games always sucks anyway
NOOOOO SA swimming was amazing and the most fun.

[Anonymous No.8062016]

More stuff to do in SA, more stuff to see, but it also suffers from same shit as all the Rockstar games which is a fucking forced tutorials through all the game.
I feel like you get more rewards for trying to 100%, and it's such a chore in VC too.

[Anonymous No.8062181]

>>8061506
Vice City

[Anonymous No.8062192]

I like Vice City the best, I felt like it improved on most things from 3. San Andreas has even more improvements and some cool things like more planes, but I felt like the map for San Andreas just wasn't nearly as much fun. It was so huge and a lot of it just felt like empty highways or desert, compared to VC feeling really dense with stuff to do.

[Anonymous No.8062193]

>>8061506
SA = VC >>> 3

SA edges out VC on content and playability alone. But VC has a few benefits to keep it even. 3 has AI issues.

[Anonymous No.8062201]

>>8061574
SA. It took everything best from GTAVC and elevated to insane level. VC was more or less the same just with smaller world and lacking content people care about.

[Anonymous No.8062217]

>>8061506
VC because you can play as a white man instead of a nigger.

[Anonymous No.8062336]

>>8061510
This is the truth.

[Anonymous No.8062385]

>>8061506
SA has the better gameplay and more enjoyable stuff to do outside of missions, VC has the better story and setting.

[Anonymous No.8062393]

>>8061510
Based 3chad

[Anonymous No.8062415]

SA > 3 = VC

SA has some shit parts, but that's kind of inevitable with the amount of content it has. Overall there's just much more to do and has a far more interesting setting and characters.

VC did have a bunch of improvements over 3, which is to be expected, but even though it technically has a larger map it just feels smaller and less varied which keeps it from being definitely better than 3. Frankly I think VC is overrated due to 80's shit and it's basically a retelling of Scarface (which I also think is a massively overrated movie).

[Anonymous No.8062429]

>>8061506
SA

[Anonymous No.8062435]

>>8061506
Plot/missions - Vice City
Gameplay/Locations - SA

[Anonymous No.8062639]

San Andreas is the best. Has the most over-the-top shit. You're literally infiltrating Area 51 for some glowfag, burying some guy alive with a construction machine?? Wild stuff

[Anonymous No.8062698]

>>8061506
Vice City has more soul, better music, better vehicles and better characters. The visuals are awesome too.

[Anonymous No.8062830]

>>8061506

San Andreas is garbage. Bad soundtrack except for loading screen. Only 30% good missions. 90% shit unfunny characters. Shit talk radio. Too many niggers. Properties you can buy suck. Graphics are worse. Pointless boring additions like getting tattoos WOW SO FUN.

3 = VC > 5 > 4 > SA

[Anonymous No.8062856]

>>8061506
VC = SA >>>>>>>> GTA3

[Anonymous No.8062863]

You can really see the exact thing in common with every poster who rates SA the lowest, despite being bigger and better with more character control, finally having basic climbing and object traversal they should have had from day 1, more options, the best vehicle physics bar none, more things to do, simulationist systems if you want to bother with them and a huge game full of variety even if you just ignore them. We all know the reason. You really cannot get over it, can you? Eternal cucks.

[Anonymous No.8062887]

>>8062863
> the best vehicle physics
This was literally the worst thing about SA.

I don't fucking need a realism in a game where I punch prostitutes and blow up helicopters.
"Realistic" shit killed so many potentially good games I can't even count them all

[Anonymous No.8063076]

>>8061506
There are no good GTA games.

[Anonymous No.8063245]

>>8061537
>the radio stations are a step down in every way.

This is the worst opinion I've seen in some time.

[Anonymous No.8063338]

>>8062698
This

[Anonymous No.8063373]

Love them all equally.

[Anonymous No.8063395]

>>8061920
Shit like that literally happens in every GTA.

[Anonymous No.8063397]

>>8061537
mentally ill take

[Anonymous No.8063402]

>>8062887
SA doesnt have realistic physics, you dumbass. You can literally control your car in midair.

[Anonymous No.8063946]

>>8061510
fpbp
>>8061519
it might have if it wasn't a rushed, buggy, glorified total conversion mod for 3.

[Anonymous No.8063980]

>>8061506

That's a very tough choice.

Vice City has better feels, San Andreas has a better sense of depth and space, and a better storyline. In terms of gameplay they are on a par.

[Anonymous No.8064010]

>>8061587
/thread

[Anonymous No.8064135]

>>8061510
It had the best atmosphere though.

[Anonymous No.8064548]

I like how every game in the 3D universe has an entirely different atmosphere.
3 is a depressing, often rainy concrete jungle. Your character doesn't even have any allies and just murders everyone on the way to the top. It's the most nihilistic game I've ever played honestly, it makes sense why there was a moral panic around this game.

VC is bright, sunny and an idealized TV-show version of the 80s. Aesthetically it's extremely strong at what it's trying to push, it's like Scarface with a happy ending.

SA starts off as an incredible imitation of 90s hood movies and rap culture. It does admittedly move away from this when you leave the first city, and maybe this is the greatest flaw - I don't know anyone who thinks the latter half is a better game. Still, looking at sheer gameplay depth alone, it's unmatched.

[Anonymous No.8065641]

vice city.
SA feels alot more empty and thrown together
SA buildings and city arent very interesting ot unique, just generic california

[Anonymous No.8065685]

Old GTAs have some kind of uncanny vibe. I don't even know how to explain that, it's in the details, like you visit a butcher's shop and see he's selling human organs or you can shoot moon through the optical scope and it will change size. It's like some creepy unnatural shit is going on in the daylight, while you doing normal stuff.

I played SA for 20 minutes and didn't progress much but many people I know say it's one of the spoopiest GTAs.

[Anonymous No.8065703]

>>8065641
based department, yeah vercetti calling in, this post is keyed

[Anonymous No.8065712]

>>8064548
>GTA3 is a nihilistic murder simulator with a dark and depressing atmosphere that takes place in a fictional version of New York right before 9/11
It's become more kino as it aged

[Anonymous No.8065727]

>>8061519
I could never navigate VC very well, even after playing for hours and hours

[Anonymous No.8065757]

>>8064548
San Fierro is, for the most part, pretty based and believable. A gang member getting run out of town and starting up a criminal empire in another city sounds plausible as hell.

[Anonymous No.8065764]

VC is the only GTA I could ever be bothered to finish.

[Anonymous No.8066267]

>>8061537
Agreed on the map bit but radio stations were a step down?

[Anonymous No.8066273]

>>8061554
SA > VC > 3

[Anonymous No.8066305]

>>8061506
Customizable character
More weapons
More vehicles
Planes
Better driving mechanics
Bigger map
Won't comment on the radio. Both were equally good
More interiors
Better graphics
And generally just more stuff to do like burglary, low-rider meetings, dancing, girlfriends, gym, driving and flying schools, turfs, pool, arcade and etcetera
Both games have a special place in my heart tho

[Anonymous No.8066308]

>>8061506
>Customizable character
>More weapons
>More vehicles
>Planes
>Better driving mechanics
>Bigger map
>Won't comment on the radio. Both were >equally good
>More interiors
>Better graphics

And generally just more stuff to do like burglary, low-rider meetings, dancing, girlfriends, gym, driving and flying schools, turfs, pool, arcade and etcetera

[Anonymous No.8066563]

>>8061506
Objectively, I'd say San Andreas because of the mechanics. Subjectively, I'd say Vice City because of the vibes and the atmosphere. It's really, really hard for me to choose from my two favourite GTA games

[Anonymous No.8066567]

san andreas hands down, how is this even a contest

[Anonymous No.8066603]

>>8062193
what benefits does VC have? the only major thing i can think off is more meele weapons, but those are mostly a gimmick. The 80's theme isnt a benefit in itself.

[Anonymous No.8066616]

I remember getting Vice City and being blown away by how amazing it looked
>OH MY GOD HIS HAWAIIN SHIRT FLAPS IN THE WIND WHEN YOU'RE ON A MOTORBIKE
San Andreas just didn't look as nice or have as much atmosphere and atmosphere is what makes a game great

[Anonymous No.8066891]

>>8066567
because a lot was lost from VC to SA despite you being ignorant to it
>>8064548
>It's the most nihilistic game I've ever played honestly
play Manhunt

[Anonymous No.8066908]

God, it never fails to disgust me how 4chan types flock to the cheesy, soulless, 2-dimensional Scarface bullshit. Vice City was an awful story with flat characters and while I can't blame them for thinking it would appeal to the kind of 13 year old kids buying a game full of hookers and wanton destruction of property would be into that kind of shit, I'd be embarrassed to admit to enjoying it as an adult.

And the aesthetics are tacky. Since when did 80s Miami club aesthetic appeal to anyone but gay Cubans? Jealous of a lifestyle that would deny you entrance to it at the door much?

[Anonymous No.8066913]

>>8061506
Neither. GTA = Trash

[Anonymous No.8066929]

>>8066908
based zoomer brain damage gray matter equivalent of anya taylor joys face

[Anonymous No.8066938]

>>8066908

[Anonymous No.8066940]

>>8066908
Thank you.

[Anonymous No.8066958]

I've 100%'d both recently. VC was good but it starts feeling dead once you only have the asset missions left.
I'm already craving SA because there's so much shit to do even outside the official missions. I can spend hours driving around the countryside, flying around the cliffs in the desert, or exploring every nook and cranny. probably gonna replay it soon.

[Anonymous No.8068238]

>>8066958
How did you manage to 100% VC without falling asleep?

[Anonymous No.8068307]

>>8061620
based
cute post

[Anonymous No.8068390]

>>8068307
y-your post is pretty cute too

[Anonymous No.8068394]

>>8061537
>bad soundtrack
anon go kill yourself. I discovered so many amazing songs from VC

[Anonymous No.8068396]

>>8061506
A shame the PC port for SA is so goddamn awful. The VC one is passable at least with a few bugfix patches.

[Anonymous No.8068536]

>>8068390
this is it
this is love then
take a look at this big cock

[Anonymous No.8068551]

>>8068238
Not him but it's not exactly boring.

[Anonymous No.8068586]

>>8064548
I think the country levels and San Fierro are actually pretty fun and explore a completely different type of city and driving area that is worthwhile, but Las Venturas, the last city, is just a completely soulless square highway circuit around some casinos with nothing interesting to show you, and the desert can be super boring. It feels like there should have been more planning involved in making the last sections of the map as lively and varied as Los Santos. Even the basic street layouts look like the designer gave up and phoned it in by comparison.

[Anonymous No.8068604]

>>8062887
Your cars just feeling like they have weight to them isn't about realism, it's actually about control and good racing. The car physics model itself probably didn't even change, they most likely accomplished it by better, less wacky car stats alone.

[Anonymous No.8068651]

>>8068551
Taxi, Pizza, Firefighting are extremely boring to me, it's just "go here, now go back, repeat 78 times". At least for vigilante you can ride a tank.
Unique stunts are fucking boring as well, even the janky detection aside there is no way to find them without looking them up, you just have to know what this specific ramp on the roof of the building will count and every other one won't.
100% in VC is just a series of fetch quests, long tedious fetch quests.

[Anonymous No.8068662]

>>8068651
Taxi and pizza are ultra comfy. Put on the talk radio and chill for a while.

[Anonymous No.8068830]

>>8068586
Yeah, Venturas always felt odd to me. I loved the Thruway though because you could create some fucking hilarious pileups on it thanks to the AI being batshit retarded.

[Anonymous No.8068856]

>>8062863
What are you talking about exactly because I want you to clarify your wimpy little point you brainwashed shit.

[Anonymous No.8068878]

>>8068856
Playing like a dumbass doesn't suit you.

[Anonymous No.8069484]

>>8061519
VC's technically improved for sure, but I prefer early 2000's NYC as a feel over 1980's Miami.

All 3 of that trilogy are fucking classics whatever way you cut it.

[Anonymous No.8069512]

>>8068651
>series of fetch quests
Nothing wrong with fetch quests.

[Anonymous No.8070260]

>>8064548
that's the whole point. SA is all about CJ getting out of the narrow minded hood shit and expanding his horizons. everything opens up both gameplay and story wise once you get out of Los Santos

[Anonymous No.8070274]

SA > IV > never played VC > every other game > V

[Kotonohas' Husbando No.8070551]

>>8068586
That's how real Las Vegas is

[Anonymous No.8070561]

>>8061519
VC and SA are definitely better games, but I would put 3 at the top because it was THE game changer, it was the paradigm shift.

When you first got GTA3 and fired it up, it was just unreal how different it felt and the feeling of playing it was so unique from everything else that had existed.
I guess some people argue that Shenmue was the first to this sort of immersion/open sandbox level of gameplay, but no on in the US really knew about that, everyone had a copy of GTA3.

[Anonymous No.8070568]

>>8070260
Not really. SA was supposed to have multiple protagonists originally, so the majority of that shit that happens outside of Los Santos was supposed to have someone else doing it. What we got was Rockstar shoehorning CJ into some of outlandish shit he had to do.

[Anonymous No.8070571]

>>8070561
Also, I'd rank VC above SA
Both were great but I think it's sort of a toss up between which one a person prefers more due to nostalgia, SA didn't really add much over VC the way VC did over 3. The giant map of SA did give this really cool feeling of being lost in the game world and being completely in it more than VC, but VC had a much better plot and aesthetic.

4 was such a bore that I stopped playing it about 60% through. Never got 5. Played RDR2 but thought it sucked from shit gameplay and awful plot.

[Anonymous No.8070681]

>>8070568
well I'm glad they didn't because that's the reason why I haven't played 5 yet.

[Anonymous No.8070753]

>>8070681
Well that's silly. Had they done that with SA, it still would have been a fun game

[Anonymous No.8070762]

>>8070681
you're not missing anything

[Anonymous No.8071514]

>>8070568
thank fuck that never happened in SA, that would have been terrible

[Anonymous No.8071605]

>>8068536
Formerly Pluck's

[Anonymous No.8071814]

>>8061506
san andreas is superior, but it has the nfs:mw syndrome, so VC

[Anonymous No.8071820]

>>8063245
This, is this guy on drugs?

[Anonymous No.8071829]

>>8061510
FPBP

[Anonymous No.8071843]

>>8071814
>nfs:mw syndrome
explain

[Anonymous No.8071914]

>>8071814
>nfs:mw syndrome
?

[Anonymous No.8072016]

>>8061506
VC because of the music, which is the most important aspect of a GTA.

[Anonymous No.8072106]

>>8071514
Would it have been? Each region would probably get it's own person and mission arc. I'm picturing the same shit except it's not CJ doing all of it. So CJ has Los Santos, some CIA goon gets the wilderness and San Fiero, and Las Venturas remains geared around the Casino heist.

Idk and maybe all of them have a score to settle with Tenpenny.

[Anonymous No.8072673]

Vc was the peak of GTA as an arcade-y crime themed franchise. It has stuff I miss in the franchise like the rampages, the drugs that slowed down time etc. SA was more of a sprawling, semi-RPG game, still good but felt less like GTA. I love Vc's aesthetic but for me SA edges it by fixing a lot of the flaws from 3 that carried over into vice city. It's also the only one I finished as a kid as with 3 and vc there would always be at least one bullshit mission or buch of missions that I'd get stuck on and then bail. Even the worst SA missions were beatable and didn't feel completely broken. Even the one where you have to FOLLOW THE DAMN TRAIN

[Anonymous No.8072962]

>>8072106
that kind of thing just kills immersion for me.
you're right that it's kind of weird seeing CJ fly a VTOL jet fighter, but I'll take that over something that would feel like a bunch of smaller games stitched together.

[Anonymous No.8073113]

>>8065727
You might want to check your brain. I knew the whole map as a kid. Played it again recently and muscle memory is still there.

[Anonymous No.8073135]

>>8061506
VC for me. I lived in Florida at the time that the game took place. It was a wild time.

[Anonymous No.8073292]

2

[Anonymous No.8074701]

>>8061519
lmao no it doesnt, 3s atmosphere is superior, the map is superior. the radio has way more interesting range, ive always preferred 3

[Anonymous No.8075147]

>>8066891
like what?
i didnt play VC nowhere as much as San Andreas but i still gave it a few hours and cant think of how it can even compete with San Andreas. The only things i can think off
>muh 80's stuff (the theme, the music, the coloring)
>shitloads of meele weapons
>those crappy dropplet effects onscreen

[Anonymous No.8076809]

i grew up playing gta san andreas while my friends played gta vc. i still cant understand why people love vc that much when you can play san andreas. san andreas has deeper story, better mechanics, bigger map, gang wars, improved in game music, much better plot twist, better graphics etc.

[Anonymous No.8076874]

>>8069512
YA YA YA YA YA

[Anonymous No.8077561]

>>8061506
SA. Vice City is just 3 with some more vehicles and 80s shit. SA not only tripled the size but added mechanics and actually fixed shit like swimming and aiming your gun.

[Anonymous No.8077594]

>>8069512
THAT'S ALL I WAAAAAAAAAANNTTT

[Anonymous No.8077597]

>>8066891
>because a lot was lost from VC to SA
I didn't know adding a fuckton of mechanics and two additional cities counted as a loss.

VCfags are literally the most faggots when it comes to GTA. MUH EIGHTIES MUH VIBES MUH ATMOSPHERE counts as argument against actual gameplay improvements SA brought to the table.

[Anonymous No.8077610]

>>8069512
It's not a fetch quest when escorting people to a destination is the point of the game, moron.

[Anonymous No.8077740]

>>8077597

WHAT gameplay improvements? Going to the gym? lol. The ONLY, good addition in San Andreas are planes, which don't get enough use in missions. Maybe not drowning.

Its a boring empty bland world with forgettable buildings and landmarks, worse gun and car sound effects, dumb boring nignog characters for 1/3 of the game, shit radio, worse graphics, worse performance etc etc. Sit down u r dum

[Anonymous No.8077747]

>>8077740
>WHAT gameplay improvements?
Improved driving, improved combat, more weapons, car mods, swimming, a bigger map, more minigames and side content.

Don't be an idiot.

[Anonymous No.8077771]

>zoomers prefer SA
imagine my shock

[Anonymous No.8077776]

>>8077771
>people who disagree with me are zoomers

yawn

[Anonymous No.8078017]

>>8077776
yes unironically

[Anonymous No.8078041]

>>8077740
>WHAT gameplay improvements?
Aiming weapons
Being able to fucking swim thereby making traversal across the world even easier and actually entices you explore.
Those two alone make SA an objective improvement.
>worse gun and car sound effects, dumb boring nignog characters for 1/3 of the game, shit radio,
Oh look, a bunch of not-gameplay
>worse graphics, worse performance etc etc.
No worse than VC
>nignog characters
>u r dum
Speak for yourself, nigger.

[Anonymous No.8078065]

>>8077771
I'm 32 and prefer SA

[Anonymous No.8078070]

>>8061506
san andreas might just be the most overrated game in existence
vice city is a near perfect arcade style experience imo

[Anonymous No.8078117]

>>8078070
>arcade style experience imo
None of these are "arcade style" dipshit.

[Anonymous No.8078152]

>>8061506
of the 2? Vice City. overall? 3

[Anonymous No.8078241]

>>8078117
whatever retard I just used it as a term for fast run and gun gameplay
have sex

[Anonymous No.8078282]

>>8078241
ok well enjoy your shit taste
dilate, maybe cope