/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.8057564]

This is the best Zelda and best GC game ever and I won't hear otherwise.

[Anonymous No.8057579]

Would love a mod with the fast sail. I liked a lot of what was added in the HD version, except for the visions.

[Anonymous No.8057592]

>>8057564
Not even the best Zelda game on the Gamecube.

[Anonymous No.8057602]

>>8057592
Doesn't really count. Those titles were originally on the NES and N64.

[Anonymous No.8057612]

>>8057602
I can't play that game on my NES and N64. Gamecube loads it just fine though.

[Anonymous No.8057615]

>>8057564
Neck yourself.

[Anonymous No.8057618]

It's good, but unfinished.

[Anonymous No.8057620]

>>8057602
games get rereleased on new platforms all the time. what are you sperging about?

[Anonymous No.8057625]

>>8057564
thats not twilight princess

[Anonymous No.8057626]

>>8057618
one more dungeon and better bosses and it would have a shot at being the goat

[Anonymous No.8057630]

>>8057626
Still too easy.

[Anonymous No.8057646]

this isn't better than Sonic Adventure 2

[Anonymous No.8057647]

>>8057564
You have to be at least 18 years old to post on this website.

[Anonymous No.8057651]

>>8057647
bro someone under the age of 18 wouldn't have even heard of wind waker

[Anonymous No.8057660]

>>8057630
Is it? I’d say it’s about equally as difficult as Ocarina.

[Anonymous No.8057662]

>>8057651
Zoomer here, out of all the people I know who like Zelda, this is usually either their favorite or second favorite. Weak cope.

[Anonymous No.8057670]

Why do people even think Wind Waker is good? Never got this.

[Anonymous No.8057673]

>>8057564
>baby mode difficulty
>5 dungeons, all shit
>literally watered down lol
It started off good but ended dissapointing

[Anonymous No.8057679]

>>8057670
Nostalgiafaggotry combined with the fact that it's considered by most a terrible game has given them a sort of victim complex, which combined with contrarianism has caused them to genuinely believe that it is good. Same thing with Mario Sunshine.

[Anonymous No.8057680]

>>8057670
For me:

High seas piratey adventure
Best story
Best music
Easily the best incarnations of Link, Zelda and Ganondorf. It’s not even close
Love the graphics
Best supporting cast
People say the dungeons are weak but I never understood that. Great variety here

[Anonymous No.8057689]

>>8057673
literally all zelda is baby mode

[Anonymous No.8057690]

>>8057625
TP is the most bland 3D Zelda. Even SS is more interesting

[Anonymous No.8057713]

>>8057689
then WW is doing a bad job at hiding it

[Anonymous No.8057807]

>>8057630
There aren't any difficult Zelda games ever since ALttP. It's a nonfactor in the games' quality, they're beloved for other reasons.

[Anonymous No.8057846]

>>8057564
not even the best zelda on the cube

[Anonymous No.8057880]

>>8057564
Wrong, Eternal Darkness is the best GC game and you're right about WW being best Zelda

[Anonymous No.8058045]

It's not even the best Zelda on GC

[Anonymous No.8058083]

>>8058045
On the gamecube there are literally three superior Zelda games.

[Anonymous No.8058265]

>>8058045
>>8058083
WW is better than OoT/MQ
WW is better than TP
WW is on par with FSA

[Anonymous No.8058285]

>>8058265
You should kill yourself.

[Anonymous No.8058316]

>>8058285
Can't seem to manage it, having too much actual fun in a better game lad

[Anonymous No.8058332]

>>8058285
He's a WW fan, he doesn't know how to kill himself since everything does 1/16th a heart of damage even if he stands still.

[Anonymous No.8058641]

hmm. hmmm..

[Anonymous No.8058649]

what do you like about it?

[Anonymous No.8058813]

Is OoT not being considered the best Zelda contrarian or is it the actual zoomer opinion?

[Anonymous No.8058873]

>>8057680
take a wild guess

[Anonymous No.8059452]

>>8058316
You'd probably have even more fun playing an actual good game like Ocarina of Time if you weren't such a cocksucking nigger.
>>8058813
Probably. They all seem to hate Twilight Princess though.

[Anonymous No.8059485]

>>8058813
I was 12 when OoT came out in 1998 and 17 when WW came out in 2003. I prefer Wind Waker.

[Anonymous No.8059510]

>>8057564
>99% of the map is literally empty
I used to switch over to regular tv while holding the stick up traveling between islands. you only get the portal song in the middle of the game or whatever and it doesnt even help if you want to explore the map. even with 12 when I played it I realized that this is beyond bad game design.

[Anonymous No.8059518]

>>8059510
>you only get the portal song in the middle of the game or whatever
That’s not true. You can get it pretty early on.

[Anonymous No.8059538]

>>8059518
they still could have decreased the map size by atleast factor 100x. all the zelda games after oot suffered from this. even twilight princess suffered from this. everything is bigger and is supposed to feel epic and whatnot but the majority of map is empty. I would rather have a small condensed map like oot over this current shit.

[Anonymous No.8059542]

I know it's the "unpopularly" popular opinion to love WW, but for me it's Twilight Princess. In 2006 that game was just everything I ever wanted in a Zelda game. Wind Waker still holds a place in my heart though.

[Anonymous No.8059549]

>>8059538
i don't get the hate for the sailing. you pick a direction, put it on auto pilot and enjoy the music and the scenery for a minute or two and then get back to the game. it's 1000 times better than botw where you they force you to be in control of the shitty map traversal

[Anonymous No.8059552]

>>8059549
>enjoy the music and the scenery for a minute or two
literally starring at a boring screen doing nothing. thats not great gameplay lol

[Anonymous No.8059554]

I really wish the HD remaster was on Switch. I never had an issue with the graphics and the QoL improvements regarding sailing and changing wind directions make it the best version.

[Anonymous No.8059564]

>>8059552
yeah it gets boring if you get lost but if you know where you're going it's an insubstantial amount of time away from the game. and half the time there's something interesting to check out along the way, ie. guard post, submarine, treasure, an island

[Anonymous No.8059583]

>>8057690
Correct opinion
TP is so forgettable

[Anonymous No.8059642]

>miyamoto on OoT
>"A delayed game is eventually good, a bad game is bad forever.”

>miyamoto on wind waker
>yeah, just rush it. we need some games out asap. rush wind waker and rush sunshine. four dungeons? blue coins? no i don't care if they're unfinished messes, just ship them.

[Anonymous No.8059650]

>>8059642
>a company that sells a few shitty games can continue to make games in the future, a company that's closed down can't make anymore games forever

[Anonymous No.8059669]

>>8057564
>actually explore and do the side content like the game wants
>game becomes 10x worse
The game is a rushed mess no matter which way you look at it.
The main quest and the side content are both half-assed.

[Anonymous No.8060270]

Twilight Princess has great parts in between boring parts.

[Anonymous No.8060274]

>>8059642
nigga you weren't in the offices hearing shit boi fagboi

[Anonymous No.8060314]

Wild that people ever think they need to defend a million selling flagship nintendo game that constantly ends up in top 10 lists.

[Anonymous No.8060330]

>>8060270
Which parts don't you like?

>>8060314
Breath of the Wild is called the greatest game ever despite being terrible. Not a very good argument.

[Anonymous No.8060342]

>>8060330
Okay faggot but have fun while people continue calling it the greatest game ever despite you shrieking into the void that it's not.
My point is Nintendo games don't need anyone to defend their games from critics because consoomers will eat it up regardless. I don't actually care about how any of these games are received, at a certain point you just got to learn to treat them as background noise the same way you do when a new Star Wars movie comes out and every possible form of advertising tries to shove it in your face.

[Anonymous No.8060378]

Zelda died when it went 3D
Change my mind
You can't

[Anonymous No.8060389]

I wonder why they never made a Zelda with pirates earlier, it seems like a great combination.

[Anonymous No.8060416]

>>8060389
Majora's Mask and the Oracles both had pirates.

[Anonymous No.8060439]

>>8060416
I have to admit, I never finished either of the Oracle games, the dancing mini games filtered me.

[Anonymous No.8060443]

So you guys really just completely ignore that they always give you something to do on the way somewhere, like the rupee slalom, and then complain? Damn that's a hard life, hope it gets better kids.

[Anonymous No.8060460]

>>8060416
Yeah but the egg hunt is one of the absolute worst parts of Majora’s Mask.

[Anonymous No.8060476]

>>8060342
Yes, I understand your "point", but what I don't understand is how it's relevant. You're saying that because lots of people like it, that no one needs to defend it here from our criticism? And that you ought to be able to make constant threads saying its the best Zelda game without repercussion regarding how it is objectively worse than at least three of the actual classics? The point of this board is to discuss retro game, so arguing that this game is bad makes sense? I just don't even understand what you're trying to say here.

>Okay faggot but have fun while people continue calling it the greatest game ever despite you shrieking into the void that it's not.
Everyone whom I know either didn't like it or said the "it's a good game just not a good Zelda game". Seems like this is the dominant opinion, not to mention the reaction of this website to it. Video game journalism is a joke and no one takes it seriously, the one people calling that game the greatest game ever are SJW Kotaku freaks and probably redditors.

[Anonymous No.8060480]

>>8057564
Worst 3d zelda game of all time. It was a complete mess.

[Anonymous No.8060482]

>>8060476
>”it's a good game just not a good Zelda game"
Meaningless criticism. Might as well just say OLD GOOD NEW BAD

[Anonymous No.8060489]

>>8060482
It isn't meaningless criticism. I brought BOTW knowing that it was open world, but I expected it to still feel like a Zelda game. It didn't. I guess you could say it "subverted my expectations". You buy a product expecting it to be like the previous, not completely different in every aspect - which are usually negative.

>OLD GOOD NEW BAD
based

[Anonymous No.8060492]

>>8060482
It is a meaningless criticism, because it's the first game to feel like a real Zelda game since Aonuma took over.

[Anonymous No.8060493]

>>8060489
All Zelda games are Zelda games. You fags can’t stop dick riding Adventure of Link on this board despite it being a wild departure from the original LoZ. Don’t be a hypocrite.

[Anonymous No.8060506]

>>8060493
In their opinion, it is a good game, but as a sequel to other Zelda games it does not hold up/is too different and did away with good parts of it. I'm not going to continue trying to explain it to you as you're either too retarded to understand or pretending not to understand to make some stupid point.
>You fags can’t stop dick riding Adventure of Link on this board despite it being a wild departure from the original LoZ. Don’t be a hypocrite.
Strawman, and would also be an invalid argument as I didn't say that departure from the norm is de facto bad. You're an idiot.

[Anonymous No.8060510]

>>8060506
>it is a good game, but as a sequel to other Zelda games it does not hold up/is too different and did away with good parts of it.
Okay well that’s also your personal opinion.

[Anonymous No.8060517]

>>8060510
No that is actually the reason for why others think that it is a good game but not a good Zelda game. I think that it is a bad Zelda game and also a bad game. Are you mentally challenged?

[Anonymous No.8060518]

>>8060330
I don't enjoy the cutscenes in general. The first few dungeons are kinda easy which is not fun. In my opinion there is too little sword combat. The dog parts are decent but it irks me when Midna interrupts you are otherwise tells you what to do. I even learned a better strategy by ignoring her advice in one instance. The handy holdiness of the new games is a real shame. The cutscenes are bad and in my opinion the dialogue is also bad. Too much edgy and beta type talking with zant and midna. Wind Waker has better supporting characters by far. There are peak atmospheric moments in TP and some of the dungeons later in the game are awesome as I remember them from a while back.

[Anonymous No.8060520]

>>8060517
Sorry anon, but you’re not the singular voice arbiter on all things Zelda. I’ve heard your opinion but you alone don’t get to decide what makes a Zelda game good or bad.

[Anonymous No.8060572]

>>8060476
Jesus christ you're an idiot, I think you're missing the point on purpose.

[Anonymous No.8060819]

>>8060518
The first temples are terrible. I like the later ones as they are as you said more atmospheric, like Stone Tower or the forest temple. I like the temples which sort of have "lore" behind them. Having Ganondorf as the actual villain was very disappointing though, though I suppose this was for perhaps setting up Skyward Sword which establishes that Ganondorf must always be the villain in all future games, much like Bowser.

>>8060520
Cool, you're doing that thing where you start posting nonsense in order to confuse the person whom they're arguing with because you're losing.

>>8060572
Care to elaborate?

[Anonymous No.8060828]

>>8060819
>>8060520 here. How was that even remotely confusing?

[Anonymous No.8060836]

>>8060828
I do not understand why you are telling me that I am not a spokesperson for Zelda. I do not understand why you are telling me that it isn't I who decide on that which is bad.

[Anonymous No.8060846]

>>8060836
My point is several million people bought and enjoyed BotW. Your opinions on the series are no more valid than theirs.

[Anonymous No.8060868]

>>8060846
So basically what you're saying is that I'm not allowed to say that it is bad, because others like it?

>Your opinions on the series are no more valid than theirs.
False. Many people who like BOTW have never played another Zelda game, or even any other video games. My opinion is more valid than theirs.

[Anonymous No.8060870]

>>8060846
stop wasting your breath on the willfully idiotic.

[Anonymous No.8060873]

>>8060868
Ah, there’s that holier than thou 4chan narcissistic attitude we all know and love! I knew that was coming.

[Anonymous No.8060874]

>>8060870
Stop samefagging.

[Anonymous No.8060876]

>>8060819
I was so hyped when I saw the Ganondorf face screenshot pre-release. And the Majora's Mask nod in twili designs and OoT tie-in with Ganondorf's execution was enjoyable, especially with the sages appearing as a monotype despite having the player infer that they are the same persons as the sages in Ocarina of Time. That just makes you more curious about what precisely they are and reminds me of the hypothesis about the sages in OoT being deceased midway through that game. I like when they raise more questions than answers while still keeping it somewhat light and averse to closure in a way that doesn't agitate me. Zant as a villain is ok, his personality is too BPD and egdy for my liking. I guess the parts where he goes full wacky mode are nice to give layers to his identity. Midna is ok for what she is. Not being one for loli imps myself I've come to appreciate her nonetheless for what she is. May as well get kinda horny while playing a game once in a while.

[Anonymous No.8060880]

>>8060873
Not an argument faggot.

[Anonymous No.8060881]

>>8060880
Mmhmm.

[Anonymous No.8060887]

>>8060881
I gave quite a rational reason for why my opinion is more valid. Regardless you're now not even bothering to refute my rebuttal of your gay argument. What's it like to lose internet arguments?

[Anonymous No.8060891]

>>8060887
Give me definitive proof that the millions of people who played BotW had never played a Zelda game before and I’ll concede. That’s the crux of your argument that your self centered opinion matters more.

[Anonymous No.8060909]

>>8060876
Really? It would have been really good if they had used another villain unrelated to Ganondorf, in my opinion. Anyway as I said from Skyward Sword this will be all we get in the future.
> And the Majora's Mask nod in twili designs and OoT tie-in with Ganondorf's execution was enjoyable,
Would never have realized this weren't it for the internet. I wonder if there's an actual connection they'll say in one of the guidebooks.

>>8060891
>Give me definitive proof that the millions of people who played BotW had never played a Zelda game before and I’ll concede.
Quite an idiotic argument, as I merely said that there were people who had played no Zelda game before. Are you really this devoid of logic? I'm being serious, are you legitimately retarded?

[Anonymous No.8060917]

>>8057592
>1 and 2 on a controller with a terrible dpad
>An MM emulator held together by thoughts and prayers

At least OoT is pretty much fine but then you're better off just getting the MQ disc.

[Anonymous No.8060919]

>>8060909
Every Zelda game is someone’s first Zelda game but for millions of others that bought and enjoyed it, they’re veterans of the series. Again, your personal opinion is no more valid than theirs just because you whine about how it supposedly “ruined” the series on this board. I repeat: All Zelda games are Zelda games and there’s absolutely nothing you can do about it.

[Anonymous No.8060921]

>>8060917
Nothing wrong with the controls and Majora's Mask plays fine.

[Anonymous No.8060929]

>>8060919
I have completed most Zelda games, they have not. I have played many video games, they have not. Therefore I have a better understanding on what is a good Zelda game and what is a good video game. What part of this do you not understand?

[Anonymous No.8060930]

Anyone ever actually complete the figurine gallery?

I did it it's fucking aids, takes forever to do.

[Anonymous No.8060936]

>>8057592
I prefer this one. No Majora but the collector's disc was too prone to freezing to be any fun. Plus I already had Zelda 1 on Animal crossing. Never got to play Master Quest before and this was filling in the gap while I waited for wind waker since it was a preorder bonus. Also got hyped for Wario World and F-Zero GX by watching those trailers over and over.

[Anonymous No.8060942]

>>8060936
fuck

>>8060930
I did, thankless task but I already did a lot of trying to look at enemies in first person from a safe distance as is, so I thought it was nice that they made a side quest of it. I wish it was a returning thing in Zelda games cuz checking out all the monsters has always been one of my favorite things to do.

[Anonymous No.8060946]

>>8060929
>I have completed most Zelda games, they have not. I have played many video games, they have not

You’re not special, anon. Out of the roughly 15 million people that purchased Breath of the Wild I’d be willing to to bet that hundreds of thousands have played most of the same games as you. You absolutely are not a statistical anomaly but if you want to keep deluding yourself so you can feel like a smart, special good boy, go right ahead.

[Anonymous No.8060952]

>>8060929
You have sucked a billion cocks and they have not. kind of hard to assign any value to your words just knowing that.

[Anonymous No.8060956]

>>8060946
I've played at least 14 of them. Still isn't an argument though, as I am comparing myself to others who haven't played the games. And still doesn't back up you're retarded original post itt.

[Anonymous No.8060957]

>>8057592
spbp
WW was when things fell apart

[Anonymous No.8060959]

>>8060917
My controller didn't have a d-pad problem.

[Anonymous No.8060960]

>>8060956
So you’re earnestly trying to claim that you alone have played most of the games in one of the most popular game franchises in history? Ridiculous. I repeat: You are not special. There are hundreds of thousands if not millions of people out there in the world that have played all the same games that you have.

[Anonymous No.8060963]

>>8060960
I never said that I am the only one to, only that many have not. Please stop making things up. Give up faggot.

[Anonymous No.8060965]

>>8060959
nice controller, shame if they were discontinued and cost 300$ to buy

[Anonymous No.8060968]

>>8060963
>many have not
And many have. Your personal opinions aren’t special or unique.

[Anonymous No.8060970]

>>8060968
Irrelevant as my original and only claim was that it makes my opinions more valid.

[Anonymous No.8060978]

>>8060970
Okay, let’s do a little exercise here: What in your opinion is the best Zelda game in the series?

[Anonymous No.8060981]

>>8060978
Ocarina of Time. Glad you gave up that previous argument of absurdity.

[Anonymous No.8060984]

>>8060981
Well anon, it may come as a massive shock to you, but there are millions of people out there that have played the same Zelda games as you that have a different favorite.

[Anonymous No.8060990]

>>8060965
I'll sell you mine for $300 then.

[Anonymous No.8060991]

>>8060984
Cool,. So how is this relevant? What does this mean? How does it back up your original claim?

[Anonymous No.8060996]

>>8060991
You 100% moved the goalposts, my friend. Suddenly all that matters is your opinion versus people that had never played a Zelda game before? I don’t think so.

[Anonymous No.8061007]

>>8060996
>You 100% moved the goalposts, my friend.
Please explain what this means and how I did it. And if I did do it, it was accidental, and I think you have been intentionally prolonging this argument in an effort to make me accidentally confuse myself.
>Suddenly all that matters is your opinion versus people that had never played a Zelda game before?
That does appear to be what I wrote here: >>8060868.

[Anonymous No.8061019]

>>8061007
Your whole argument that BotW is “terrible” hinges on it not “feeling” like a Zelda game. Very, very much your own subjective opinion that is irrelevant considering plenty of longtime Zelda fans considered it to be a much needed return to form.

You’re free to deny it but I believe what you’re actually saying is that you didn’t like it because it didn’t follow the same old formula as Ocarina of Time and therefore didn’t “feel” like Zelda to you.

[Anonymous No.8061031]

Nuke the thread, it's not fun anymore, thanks faggots.

[Anonymous No.8061035]

>>8061031
To be fair, was this thread ever destined to be anything more than “Wind Waker sucks” versus “Wind Waker is great”?

[Anonymous No.8061039]

>>8061019
>Your whole argument that BotW is “terrible” hinges on it not “feeling” like a Zelda game.
False, I said that is the reason others think it: >>8060476 >>8060517. That is not my argument.

>Very, very much your own subjective opinion that is irrelevant considering plenty of longtime Zelda fans considered it to be a much needed return to form.
And many disagree. /v/ appeared to hate it. I have discussed it on other boards and users there didn't like it. Many people I know didn't like it.

>You’re free to deny it but I believe what you’re actually saying is that you didn’t like it because it didn’t follow the same old formula as Ocarina of Time and therefore didn’t “feel” like Zelda to you.
Yes, that is a reason. One of many. But I wouldn't have been bothered by that, weren't it for it also being a bad game. And also for having items that break, a mechanic which I detest. If they managed to make a good open world Zelda game I'd probably consider it on tier with Skyward Sword.

[Anonymous No.8061042]

>>8061035
Didn't have to be, there's been plenty of comfy Zelda threads before, even for Wind Waker. Real shame Zelda fans have the same mentality as console warriors but for their own individual games.

[Anonymous No.8061043]

>>8061042
Well it did, OP started the thread with a contrarian possibly troll opinion.

[Anonymous No.8061045]

>>8061039
>/v/ appeared to hate it
lol okay. Anyway, everything else you don’t like comes down to personal preference. Breath of the Wild certainly isn’t a “terrible” game by any valid metric. Nintendo has never made a bad Zelda game, it all just comes down to personal taste.

[Anonymous No.8061049]

>>8061043
No? Is it contrarian to say "pepperoni pizza is the best?" No, you faggots just take video game opinions personally if you don't agree.

[Anonymous No.8061065]

>>8061045
Nintendo have made one rushed, low quality Zelda game and one badly forethought Zelda game.
>Anyway, everything else you don’t like comes down to personal preference.
Whats even the point of arguing then? What are you doing in this thread?

>>8061049
Saying a video game which is usually considered bad is the best video game is a contrarian opinion.

[Anonymous No.8061070]

>>8061045
>if you like the game that i like your opinion is valid
>if you don't like the that i like that's just like your own personal preference, maaaaan
botwfags are the most insecure people on the planet

[Anonymous No.8061074]

>>8061065
I agree Wind Waker was unfortunately rushed in that it’s missing a couple dungeons, but I still wouldn’t call it low quality. The graphics, music and gameplay are still top notch Nintendo quality even if it is on the easy side.

[Anonymous No.8061079]

>>8061070
You mean to tell me /v/ hates a popular Nintendo game? HOLY FUCKING SHIT STOP THE PRESSES

[Anonymous No.8061084]

>>8061065
Wind Waker isn’t considered bad at all outside of this little autist bubble. It has plenty of fans.

[Anonymous No.8061086]

>>8061070
He's grasping at straws.

>>8061074
The graphics look terrible. And not because I'm an edgelord and don't like "kiddy" graphics. The music isn't particularly good compared to other Zelda games. And the gameplay is far from good.

[Anonymous No.8061087]

>>8061065
Shut the fuck up, you're the reason this thread is a fucking disaster shit lips. Fucking retard can't fucking grasp a concept as simple as subjectivity.
>>8061045
You're no fucking better because you won't stop engaging this retard
.

[Anonymous No.8061092]

>>8061086
Again all subjective opinions of yours. I fully disagree.

[Anonymous No.8061093]

>>8061084
It and Sunshine received plenty of hate on the internet until around 2014. Now both are apparently good and are "classics".

[Anonymous No.8061095]

>>8057564
Terrible unfun couple of opening hours. Doesn't matter how good the rest of the game is with an opening that bad.

[Anonymous No.8061096]

>>8061093
And by “the internet” you mean /v/? What a shock.

[Anonymous No.8061107]

>>8061092
why do you keep bringing up this subjective vs objective shit?

[Anonymous No.8061113]

>>8061087
No, the reason is this other faggot who refused to leave an argument he had clearly lost after my first reply. I just cannot stop replying to him to assert how I am not wrong. And you the OP are a troll, so me allegedly ruining this thread doesn't matter.

>>8061092
Not really, the gameplay is at least objectively bad.

Just to be clear, actually, when I said that the music isn't particularly good, I meant that it isn't above average Zelda. Not that it is not that good.

>>8061096
No I mean other internet forums.

[Anonymous No.8061117]

>>8061107
Because you’re not the end-all-be-all opinion haver on Zelda games. You shouldn’t be comparing yourself to people that haven’t played them, you should be comparing yourself to the knowledgeable posters on this board. Your opinion is most certainly no more valid than anyone else’s here so every time you claim something is “terrible” is pure subjectivity and nowhere near an objective fact.

[Anonymous No.8061121]

>>8061113
>Not really, the gameplay is at least objectively bad.
I subjectively like it so therefore it can’t be objective. I think Wind Waker’s lock-on targeting and combat was overall a lot smoother than the sometimes stilted combat in Ocarina when they were still working the kinks out of Z targeting.

[Anonymous No.8061127]

>>8061113
I'm not the OP you retard schizo

[Anonymous No.8061140]

>>8061121
Sailing was boring. Gameplay was easy. Five temples were easy. Final sailing thing was bad. It doesn't mater if you fucking like it. You're like a modern art faggot, "You just don't get the art art is subjective these scribbles on a canvas is as good as realism".

[Anonymous No.8061141]

>>8061117
why do you care so much what this guy thinks? stop trying to control the narrative on these games.

[Anonymous No.8061150]

>>8061140
Don’t know what to tell you, I really like Wind Waker and it’s a well received game outside of this board which seems to have a weird hateboner for the GameCube while overly praising the N64. Just my opinion though.

[Anonymous No.8061156]

>>8061150
And you have the wrong opinion. Just like how liking Picasso is the wrong opinion.

[Anonymous No.8061158]

>>8061156
lol okay anon

[Anonymous No.8061162]

>>8061158
Glad you accept that everything is objective.

[Anonymous No.8061167]

>>8061162
Cringe

[Anonymous No.8061168]

>>8057564
it's just not very fun

[Anonymous No.8061173]

>>8061167
Buzzword.

[Anonymous No.8061176]

>>8061173
>INDEPENDENT THOUGHT BAD

[Anonymous No.8061180]

>>8061176
Please let me know about where I said that having independent thought is bad.

[Anonymous No.8061186]

>>8061180
So groupthink is all well and good when it aligns with your opinions, eh? Boy did /pol/ really do a number on this whole site.

[Anonymous No.8061192]

>>8061186
Please let me know about where I said that having independent thought is bad.
>/pol/ bad
Not sure where that even came from.

[Anonymous No.8061196]

>>8061192
>WIND WAKER BAD NO OTHER OPINIONS ALLOWED

[Anonymous No.8061202]

>>8061196
>MURDERING INNOCENT CHILDREN CAN BE GOOD. OBJECTIVE BADNESS IS NOT A THING.
You lack the ability to think logically.

[Anonymous No.8061205]

>>8061192
>/pol/ bad
Yes it is and the sooner you stop going to the following boards, the better:
/pol/
/tv/
/v/
/r9k/
/fit/

All literal mind poison.

[Anonymous No.8061207]

>>8061196
This, but unironically. It's a boring, empty game filled with sailing, there's no challenge in the slightest. Literally the only thing it has going for it is an art style that most people hate and a final boss monologue that is literally only memorable because it was placed inside a game with cartoon graphics.

[Anonymous No.8061208]

>>8061205
/tv/ is a good board for political discussion.

[Anonymous No.8061209]

>>8061202
I subjectively like Wind Waker and you subjectively don’t. Therefore it’s not objective.

[Anonymous No.8061214]

>>8061208
No it isn’t. Cut it off, I guarantee you’ll be better for it.

[Anonymous No.8061217]

>>8061209
Everything has a potential method to be measured for attributes. For everything there is an objective opinion about it. Picasso's art is not good. Windwaker is not good.

[Anonymous No.8061224]

I for one like that Wind Waker is a shorter Zelda game. IMO Ocarina drags on for too long at times without any major story beats happening.

[Anonymous No.8061231]

Janny I hope that you get murdered.

[Anonymous No.8061234]

>>8061217
Who’s a good painter then?
inb4 Hitler

[Anonymous No.8061237]

>>8061234
Leonardo da Vinci.

[Anonymous No.8061242]

>>8061237
More known as an inventor than a painter, no?

[Anonymous No.8061245]

>>8061242
How is that relevant?

[Anonymous No.8061259]

>>8061245
Sure the Mona Lisa is famous but I’d argue that Da Vinci was more of a draftsman and engineer overall than a painter. Picasso is solely known for painting.

[Anonymous No.8061264]

>>8061259
Okay, what about William Adolphus Bougoureou I think he's called. Had a look at da Vinci's work and it's a lot more uncanny than I remember.

[Anonymous No.8061273]

>>8061264
I’ll look him up.

[Anonymous No.8061282]

Sorry for all the arguing, bros. I just had hernia surgery and I’ve been laid up all weekend. Thanks for keeping me entertained.

[Anonymous No.8061351]

>>8061282
fuck you

[Anonymous No.8061358]

>>8061351
Kek

[Anonymous No.8061432]

Resident Evil 1 is the best GC game.