/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.804490]

Which do you think is better, /vr/?

For me, it's Yoshi's Island. One of my favorite games of all time.

[Anonymous No.804492]

>>804490

Definitely Yoshi's Island. Better visuals, music and gameplay. World has a bigger map with more to explore, and it represents 2D Mario at its most refined, but Yoshi's Island is still the better game.

[Anonymous No.804496]

>>804492
My thoughts exactly. Bravo.

[Anonymous No.804501]

>>804492

/thread

[Anonymous No.804513]

World.
dem secrets. Heard about them all word of mouth back in the day. Star Road, that glitch that screws up the colors on chocolate island, all the different alternate pathways you had to figure out how to unlock.

Yoshi's Island had far superior music, but I hated that baby, even if you were technically invincible to enemies blows because of it. Island felt easy in comparison to world

[Anonymous No.804516]

I liked Mario World better since the levels were a bit deeper with more non-linear paths and it was more about traditional run and jump platforming whereas Yoshi's Island was too much about playing kick-the-can.

[Anonymous No.804521]

I played Yoshi's Island ages ago on my SNES, the copy was borrowed and the dude wanted it back. It was such a good game, better than World.

brb buying Yoshi's Island on the internet

[Anonymous No.804818]

>>804521
I personally prefer the GBA version. Has everything from the original, albeit remapped controls, but it has 6 extra levels.

[Anonymous No.805197]

>>804513
>that glitch that screws up the colors on chocolate island
yeah, what the fuck was up with that?

[Anonymous No.805245]

>>804818
I only ever finished the GBA version 100% even though it's longer than the SNES version. That new final extra level takes forever to clear with 100 points.

[Anonymous No.805247]

I had to pry the nostalgia goggles off my face with seemingly super-human force, but after I did so, I came to the conclusion that Yoshi's Island is better(never played it as a kid).

[Anonymous No.805261]

>>804490
I really hated Yoshi's island. SMW was classic mario that was more polished.

Yoshi's island was like a predecessor to Yoshi's sotry, and I didn't care too much for that either. The game was just very easy. Normally people try and offer the rebuttal that even if it's easy, it took a long time to get 100%. But when getting 100% just consists of putting in a ton of effort and has absolutely no difficulty, I don't see what there is to love.

[Anonymous No.805280]

Super Mario World didn't suck dick like Yoshi's Island did, so Super Mario World.

SMB3 is the best Mario game though.

[Anonymous No.805302]

Yoshi's island is pure shit. It just felt tedious to complete the bosses were stupid, the enemies are stupid, the atmosphere is stupid. There is also no challenge to it like the special world in SMW

[Anonymous No.805314]

>>805261
>>805280
>>805302
Thank god. I was really discouraged when I couldn't find people who didn't praise the shit out of SMW2. I just couldn't figure out why. At least there are some people who share my hate for it.

[Anonymous No.805326]

>>804513

I love the propaganda posters.

[Anonymous No.805335]

[Anonymous No.805331]

Am I the only person who sort of has this love hate relationship with Yoshi's Island? Mostly hate?

It might be because I finished the Game Boy version, and didn't play the SNES version, but I just feel that Yoshi's Island is a pretty bad platformer that is designed to be hard and annoying to play.

I'm not saying it's a bad game though, but I just don't understand why people like it, the gameplay is very frustrating, Yoshi can only attack by using eggs, which are supplied by enemies. If he gets hit Mario fucks off to the top of the screen and you can't get him back in time most of the time because he either goes way to far, or you get hit and Yoshi spins in a circle for 3 seconds wasting time. Also, those white dandelion things. Fuck those, they're deliberately put in platforming stages to put you off. Oh, and even though this may make me seem like a casual but I felt that there were not enough Checkpoints half of the time

I did like the music and artstyle though, and I liked the idea of all the Yoshi's being kind souls working together to bring Mario back to his brother. The bosses were creative too, and fun to fight most of the time.

Really, sometimes I have reasons to hate the game, and sometimes have reasons to love the game, I can't be the only one...?

[Anonymous No.805330]

[Anonymous No.805347]

>>805330
Awesome.

[Anonymous No.805405]

[Anonymous No.805397]

>>805335
I'll tape these to my walls.

[Anonymous No.805423]

I prefer World. While YI had interesting graphics/enemies, I didn't think it did anything World didn't. I'm, also, not a fan of having to chase a Baby Mario whenever I get hit.

[Anonymous No.805541]

>People saying SMW is harder when they both have the same amount of difficult stages (1- Tubular for SMW, Poochy Isn't Stupid for YI)

Not that either are difficult, mind you.

For me, YI is the better game if just because I like the level design and feel of it more. Plus, I guess I like exploration a little more than straight platforming, same way that I like Sonic 3 more with Tails instead of Sonic.

World's castle theme is probably the best Mario song ever, though.

[Anonymous No.805553]

World. Hated the baby mechanic.

[Anonymous No.805569]

hard to pick cause I love them both and they're so different, but if I had a gun to my head ,SMW

[Anonymous No.805637]

>>805261
>>804513

Why do people say yoshi island is easy?

i think it's the second most challenging mario behind SMB2. World seems super easy by comparison especially if you take the obvious shortcut.

[Anonymous No.805645]

>>805637

Care to elaborate? I 100%'d Yoshi's Island, and apart from a few hang-up points (Poochy Isn't Stupid, Kamek's Revenge) it was pretty smooth sailing.

[Anonymous No.805668]

>>805331
you can jump/stomp enemies too you know.

[Anonymous No.805671]

>>805645
I don't know how to elaborate difficulty because every player is different but none of the mario games seem remotely hard when you master the controls. Yoshi's island seems at least more challenging due to the non linearity of some of the levels and the levels you mentioned, I died more on the snow level then I ever did in super mario world.

I just don't understand the flack this game gets in particular for being "easy" .

[Anonymous No.806501]

World for the fact that there are so many more secrets. Both are great though

[Anonymous No.807916]

Yoshi's Island, of course.

[Anonymous No.808039]

>>805314
>THIS
I never played Yoshi's Island as a child, so I don't have that nostalgic feeling when I play it.

it also didn't age well, and plays like shit

SMW2 is my favorite of all of the Mario games, and other than SMW4, is the only game in the series worth playing.

[Anonymous No.808060]

Certainly SMW. The controls feel tighter, I like the secrets, more enjoyable levels.

[Anonymous No.808064]

>>807916
Shader ?

[Anonymous No.808093]

>>808039
>plays like shit
Hell I even prefer SMW and even I think what you said is bullshit. The only part of YI that controls like crap are the vehicle transformations.

[Anonymous No.808101]

>>805261
>>805314

I never played SMW2 growing up either. I could never get into it as an adult, but World, even without the nostalgia goggles, is an amazing action/adventure platformer. Yoshi's Island just isn't a "real" mario game to me.

[Anonymous No.808121]

I never enjoyed Yoshi's Island. It just felt like there was always something holding you back, specifically having to carry around baby Mario. That was just extremely tedious and disappointing, and easily put the game to the bottom of my list. It was more repetitive than enjoyable, and was overall just dull gameplay. The colors were interesting, but that was about the only thing about the game worth noting. Not only that, but the game was easy, what with the required invincibility you carry around with you.

If I had to answer OP's question, it would be Super Mario World 2 by a landslide.

>>808101
Neither of them even claimed that they didn't play the game growing up, but I will agree, it didn't feel like a Mario game.

[Anonymous No.808128]

>>808121

Meant to click this one too
>>808039

And the pastel color palette from Yoshi seemed off putting to me.

[Anonymous No.809479]

>>805331
sounds like you suck buddy

[Anonymous No.810352]

>>804513
>>805197
I hope you don't mean this, because this isn't a glitch.

[Anonymous No.810384]

>>804513
They tried making the baby's cry a bit lower before releasing the game, but then they realized it made people completely ignore him when he's in the bubble.

[Anonymous No.811275]

>>805637
Keep going back to Super Mario World. Barely touched Yoshi's Island since I completed it.
As for the shortcut, that is a bit challenging if you do it with certain criteria.
1) Only 1 life.
2) 1/2 hour time limit from "Peach is missing again", to watching the ending.
3) Follow this route. No switch palace.
Do 1st island levels 2, 3 and 4, plus the castle. Do Donut Island 1, hidden exit. Do the water level in the lake, hidden exit, do Donut Secret House, defeat the ghost to get to Star Road. Clear Star Road hidden exits to get to Bowser's Castle. Beat Bowser. Total levels 12.
Only ever succeeded doing this a handful of times- usually from falling down a hole with rushing.
This was explained in a magazine years ago, but with the Yellow Switch Palace thrown in because (and I quote) "it would make clearing the levels nearly impossible without it".

[Anonymous No.811292]

>>810352
Fuck yeah, Special World completed is a good feeling. Them pumpkin-head Piranha Plants, man.

>>804490
I vastly prefer SMW over YI. I fucking hate Baby Mario, I hate the carry/escort mechanic, and I just generally like the zippier, denser feel of SMW overall.

[Anonymous No.811291]

>>810352
>chocolate island
>not chocolate island
>derp

[Rufus No.811303]

>>811275
I'm going to have to try this.

[Anonymous No.811309]

>>811275
It always takes a few tries to get the one where you go underneath the platforms and are supposed have all the switch palaces done.

[Anonymous No.811324]

They are good in different ways. I love both, but I find myself returning to world more than YI because I feel like the levels are more fun to play and the controls are tighter. I really love how running is dealt with in SMW.

[Anonymous No.811357]

>>805541
>World's castle theme is probably the best Mario song ever, though.

It's one of the creepiest, most nerve cracking tune I've ever heard in a videogame.

However, Yoshis Island stomps the SMW soundtrack hard otherwise. Especially the boss tunes. And not just Bowser, but that piranha plant tune too.

[Anonymous No.811358]

>>811309
Note, only 1 life.
Blue Yoshi. Nuff said. Just make sure you've got a feather so you can hit the block for the key because sods law says you'll pick up a red shell.

[Anonymous No.811370]

>>811275
If you want to artificially limit the game difficulty by means of choosing not to use certain features, why not just play with one hand, or with your feet? Same fucking thing.

[Anonymous No.811373]

>>811358
I'm all setup to take this on, will report back.

[Anonymous No.811387]

>>811370
I usually complete the game this way, then go back and try to get 100% afterwards. Only level that really gives me trouble is that damn hidden exit on the bridge to get to star road. Fly under the first exit then land on the platform behind it. Usually takes me several attempts, and much swearing.

[Anonymous No.811418]

>>811373
Good luck BTW.
Tried to get my missus to do this SMW challenge, and the first thing she does is the yellow switch palace.

[Anonymous No.811457]

>>811418
Thanks dude. Made it to Star World 3, picked up a blue block to throw at Lakitu, but he killed me with the first Spiny he threw.

Took me about twelve minutes to get there from the opening dialogue.

Going to keep trying because I know I can do this.

[Anonymous No.811480]

>>811457
Yeah, enjoy. Not sure if anyone else out there has any more challenges for this game like this?
Preferably not like the old 'Complete 'Link to the past' without losing a life' challenge. Do-able but takes way too long. And it's not that hard if you know the trick to it (fairies in jars).

[Anonymous No.811514]

>>811480
Just did it on my second try.

No switch palaces, no deaths, took me 28 minutes (I went and took a piss right before Bowser's Castle haha).

After running through that, it sounds harder than it really is.

Do I even dare mention trying to beat Special World without dying? I don't know what would be a fair time limit, and I can't remember if the switch palaces would be vital or not.

[Anonymous No.811524]

>>811514
Wow, I'm apparently retarded. that should have said 18 minutes, not 28.

[Anonymous No.811565]

>>811275

I did that about five times in a row one day, and shaved my time down to roughly 15 minutes. It really isn't hard once you get into it.

[Anonymous No.811571]

>>804490

Is this really a debate? Yoshi's Island, every day of the week, every week of the year, every year of century, every century of the millenium, every millenium of all time.

[Anonymous No.811624]

>>811565
Yeah, it's not that hard once you've done it a couple of times.
>>811514
Must say the Special Worlds without dying sounds like a painful challenge. I'm particularly bad for misjudging distances on those 'land on the tiny platform or die' bits.And don't get me started on that flamin' level where you've got to get through it with the puff-up-mario power ups to make him float. I usually use more lives getting through that damn level than any other.

[Anonymous No.811627]

Well, I tried out Yoshi's Island on an emulator and I really like it, despite having played SMW before. SMW is just really weird and depressing to me, and I can't really explain why. It feels really hollow, like it's obviously a video game. It's super compact, and it's really easy to beat 100%, so it gives me a kind of bad taste in my mouth. It's still a great game, though.