Castlevania thread

[Anonymous No.803098]

Okay /vr/, we normally have "which Belmont is best Belmont" threads, and I'm kinda worn on them.

So instead, which Death is best Death?

pic related, best Death.

[Anonymous No.803124]

Rondo had best Belmont and best Death
Death teases you as you race to the town at the start.
Later he fights you on the mast of goddamn ship wreck. He floats around in classic mode then shifts to fucking Ninja Death. "Face me, BOY!"

[Anonymous No.803138]

Are we defining best as toughest? Most enjoyable fight? Best voiced/drawn?

Oh wait, it doesn't matter, all categories spoken for.

[Anonymous No.803150]

>>803138
>Death in SOTN
>tough
nigga wat?

[Anonymous No.803156]

>>803150

I dunno, I mean, no other Death is powerful enough to neuter you at the start of the game.

Is it cheating to count the death stand-in from 3?

[Anonymous No.803179]

>>803124
>>803124

[Anonymous No.803194]

>>803124
Best death for Death too. Decapitated by his own scythe

[Anonymous No.803198]

Including the hallway before him, this motherfucker is seriously brutal.

[Anonymous No.803205]

>>803198
unless you've got holy water and he just kinda...dies

[Anonymous No.803207]

>>803198
That hallway is a cake walk, like you're seriously casual if you think its hard.

[Anonymous No.803217]

>>803205
Not doing this with guides, and never played through the game before. Does holy water do well against bosses, or at least Death?

>>803207
I guess I'm pretty casual, then. The knights take so long to kill, and it's hard to dodge the axes and the medusa heads at the same time. Plus each hit drains a quarter of your life.
I've never died in the hallway, but I almost always get hit at least once, which makes Death that much harder to face.

[Anonymous No.803220]

>>803217
kay take your ADD meds and then you will notice there are a few spots where the medusa heads dont hit you and you can just crouch and focus on axes and the night comes within range. You can always walk up and down the stairs a bunch too to get tons of hearts bro.

[Anonymous No.803224]

>>803217
holy water locks all of them in place its pretty tricky to get it on death and you need the III but you can lock any boss down if you know where to throw it, except for dracula first form

[Anonymous No.803223]

>>803198
I could usually beat him as a kid, but I never beat dracula until I used save states.

[Anonymous No.803236]

>>803220
I'll keep trying, but you're really out of it if you think I'm the only person who has expressed frustration over the Medusa heads.

[Anonymous No.803247]

>>803236
because people are stupid and dont even take the time to realize the move in a set pattern and are not random.

[Anonymous No.803283]

>>803198
The hallway gives you double/triple shot power-ups. I wouldn't have been able to beat him without that part of the level.

[Anonymous No.803303]

>>803179
izzat good or bad?

[Anonymous No.803327]

>>803207
Maybe after you do it the hundred times it takes to get to Death and lose to him until you beat him.

Only boss worse than death is fucking frankenstein and his shitman.

[Anonymous No.803332]

>>803247
Not every person has the time to sit down and analyze the game to the very last pixel, anon.
That is not a bad thing.

[Anonymous No.803338]

>>803327
Frankenstein isn't that bad. The fleaman shoots fireballs slowly enough to dodge them without too much work. If you take it really slow and whittle him down, mostly focusing on not taking damage, it's pretty easy after the first few tries.

[Anonymous No.803342]

>>803332
it took me a couple minutes I was like hey if I stand right here in front of this column and crouch those bitches dont hit me :D. Maybe its just autistic pattern recognition

[Anonymous No.803341]

>>803332
that is how you play most old games and CV in particular

[Anonymous No.803346]

CV3 that is all

[Anonymous No.803412]

>>803098

I'm with you OP, CV4 is still my favorite Death. Amazing fading glowy effects all on him, and I get so fucking pumped when the start of the fight shows all the images of Death coming together with that chilling moaning sound. I love how there are extra graphical effects (red aura of some kind) when a scythe hits you that doesn't appear anywhere else in the game. It makes the fight that much more special.

Really easy fight and hallway leading to him, but that music, that death wind suction move... This Death has style, and that counts for a lot with me.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=WtEn0f5CWQo#t=123s

[Anonymous No.806635]

I think Death is really one of the best bosses in video games. On the one hand, it's kind of weird that the embodiment of human mortality is Dracula's bitch. But on the other, his mere presence allows the player to connect to the protagonist because Death is a common foe.

Or maybe it's just because I'm scared as shit of dying.

[Anonymous No.806945]

>>803217
Holy Water is the boss sub-weapon and also the weapon when you're about to go down stairs.

[Anonymous No.806961]

>>803198
Just get the cross and spam it, if you can't get there with the holy water. It gets rid of medusas, the axes and Death's scythes.

I actually took no damage beating Death for the first time, without the holy water.

After beating it once, the first game is just super easy.

[Anonymous No.807309]

Best death

[Anonymous No.807491]

>>806635
Dracula is beyond death. He is above Death's control, so Death has become his ally. Dracula is probably the only "mortal" that death respects, that's why he's Dracula's 2nd in command.

[Anonymous No.807506]

>>807491
Going full weeaboo here, but he does refer to Alucard as "Alucard-sama" in the Japanese version of SotN, so Death likely respects him in at least some regard, if only because he's Dracula's son.

[Anonymous No.807642]

what's up with the little shit on his shoulder? his it ever visible in any of the games?
those tiny wings on its head make me think of hermes/mercury who lead the souls of man to hades. Still seems like an out of place reference

[Anonymous No.807648]

>>807506

Dracula is kind of like a king of darkness, so his son would be considered royalty in that vein. Even if he didn't respect him, he would call him -sama

[Anonymous No.807654]

>>807506
Well, he could have just whipped his ass after taking all of his weapons, but he doesn't work that way. Death obviously likes being challenged.

[Anonymous No.807659]

CV, CV4 and Rondo are the best versions. Most of the rest go full retard with those ridiculous second forms.

[Anonymous No.807662]

No one mentioned Bloodlines, I liked that boss gauntlet. It made it seem like he controlled time as well, bringing you back to previous bosses, which seems fitting for Death.

[Anonymous No.807665]

>>807662
>death
>using tarot cards
japan is retarded

[Anonymous No.807680]

>>807665
Why is that so bad?

[Anonymous No.807684]

>>807680
>hurr durr there is a card named death so it makes sense for death to use tarot cards!!!!

[Anonymous No.807692]

>>807642
isn't it one of the sidekicks you unlock?

[Anonymous No.807693]

>>807684
Dude, Death is not some universally accepted personality. Castlevania already turns the Dracula myth on its head, I don't even know if vampires suck blood in that universe.

[Anonymous No.807694]

>>807665

i think it's pretty cool aesthetically.

[Anonymous No.807708]

>>807693
Castlevania is a parody of the classic movie horror genre. The subsequent games ruin the concept and that's why the original is still the superior game.

[Anonymous No.807713]

>>807693

Considering that Dracula uses Soul Steal on Death (consensually, but still) in Portrait of Ruin, no, I don't think sucking blood is how vampires get their power.

Then again, maybe that's just a vampire as powerful as Dracula. One of Alucard's spells in SoTN allowed him to regain health whenever he killed an enemy that sprayed blood on dying.

[Anonymous No.807719]

>>807694
>i think it's pretty cool aesthetically.
wow sooo cool!!!1!! doesnt matter if conceptually it makes no sense xD

[Anonymous No.807725]

>>807719

Frankly, no, it really doesn't. If we were talking about a game that hadn't already decided to go Zelda Timeline with its own mythos, you might have a point for consistency being a priority. Instead, Konami made the active decision to let function follow form in their games, and frankly I think that's why CV has both survived as long as it has and avoided becoming stale and formulaic.

[Anonymous No.807728]

>>807665
specially since those cards arent even real

[Anonymous No.807740]

>>807725
>I think that's why CV has both survived as long as it has
>saying that like it's a good thing
castlevania should have ended a long time ago

[Anonymous No.807742]

>>807725
>avoided becoming stale and formulaic.
HAHA

[Anonymous No.807760]

>>807725
uh? why did my post got deleted? >>807719

here it is: >i think it's pretty cool aesthetically.
wow sooo cool!!!1!! doesnt matter if conceptually it makes no sense xD

[Anonymous No.807768]

>>807760
What's wrong with focusing on aesthetics?

[Anonymous No.807781]

>>807768
>What's wrong with focusing on aesthetics?
homie im the kind of guy who actually values aesthetics too a higher regard than the actual game mechanics. To add random shit for the sake of it doesnt improve aesthetics.

[Anonymous No.807791]

>>807708
finally someone else who gets it

[Anonymous No.808243]

>>807768
the bad games that come up when it happens

>ontopic: the ninja form in rondo of blood is my favorite

[Anonymous No.808326]

>>807708
A parody is cool, but it doesn't get you through dozens of games in the series. The franchise developed its own lore and style, like it or not. I don't like the character designs in later games either, but SOTN still had it right.

[Anonymous No.808407]

>>808326
>like it or not
yeah i dont.

I would be okay with the expansion of the concept to all sorts of folk monsters but when they pull shit out of their asses like a diplocephalus i cant help but get mad

[Anonymous No.808409]

>>808407
There are two ways the game could have progressed, really: the way it did, with its own lore and such; or, become more comedic.

[Anonymous No.808428]

>>808407
>Amphisbaena is a mythological, ant-eatng serpent with a head at each end. According to Greek mythology, the amphisbaena was spawned from the blood that dripped from the Gorgon Medusa's head as Perseus flew over the Libyan Desert with it in his hand

Shows what you know.

[Anonymous No.808445]

>>808409
>with its own lore and such
there was no need for bullshit, castlevania could be the place where all sorts of monsters from all sorts stories/tales/myths/legends inhabit

The basis of the series revolves around borrowing a bunch of stuff from other sources and throwing it all together so i would like it to be done right

sorry im an autist when it comes to this

[Anonymous No.808450]

>>808445
Most of the enemies are still that, I have no idea what you're going on about.

[Anonymous No.808497]

>>808428
sorry bad example. galamoth, slogra, etc

>>808450
my point is about how it should be handled in a more elegant way

take for instance the original castlevania that even though is much more focused than the subsequent games, it's still plagued by dumb crap:
skeletons, animated armor, bats, crows... those are all classic elements of haunted castles stories. flying medusa heads arent. why are there a shit ton of medusas flying around? even if you say it's from a random gorgon, there are only 3 of those. Castlevania lacks a generic ghost enemy(the little flaming flying skeleton thingy doesnt count). so switch the medusa head sprite with a simple ghost and it feels so much better already.
Same deal for the fleaman. Resprite it as a goblin.
And i could go on but i think i got my point across. It's hard to articulate my thoughts better when english is not my first language.

[Anonymous No.808509]

>>808508
i meant the original game

[Anonymous No.808508]

>>808497

[Anonymous No.808516]

>>808497
autism overload

[Anonymous No.808530]

>>808497
this made me wonder if are there any tools to hack a castlevania game in the same way that there are editors for pokemon games and stuff?

[Anonymous No.808547]

>>808530
http://www.romhacking.net/?page=utilities&game=739

[Anonymous No.808549]

>>808547
thanks man

[Anonymous No.808558]

>>803098
I thought this was the coolest looking death, too.

Rondo's was also awesome, especially when he actually fights you on the ground.

Portrait of Ruin gets points for the Death/Dracula combo.

[Anonymous No.808593]

>>808497
>skeletons, animated armor, bats, crows... those are all classic elements of haunted castles stories. flying medusa heads arent. why are there a shit ton of medusas flying around? even if you say it's from a random gorgon, there are only 3 of those. Castlevania lacks a generic ghost enemy(the little flaming flying skeleton thingy doesnt count). so switch the medusa head sprite with a simple ghost and it feels so much better already.
even though i dont care as much about this kind of things i actually agree with you and see where you're coming from

[Anonymous No.808771]

>>808497
that flaming flying ghost thingy in castlevania is a will o wisp, they are quite common in folk lore from all over the world. The game does lack a generic ghost though you are right. the fleamen look like hobgoblins already and would even just need to be renamed.

[Anonymous No.808823]

>>808497
since we're talking about senseless enemies what's up with generic eagles droping hunchbacks?

[Anonymous No.809550]

>>803098
sotn death is underrated

[Anonymous No.809991]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9iUjJEtcXI0

skip to 2:55

[Anonymous No.811729]

>>809991
ew

[Anonymous No.813301]

>>809991
Still my favorite rendition of Dancing in Phantasmic Hell...

[Anonymous No.813386]

>>803198
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=XQToWoqnMuI#t=2336s
38:56

[Anonymous No.815352]

>>807309
top lel

[Necrobrotent No.815406]

Death was pretty fucking crazy in lament of innocence.

I know the 3dvainia's are sacrilege and all but it was a really crazy battle.

[Anonymous No.815419]

>>815406
I liked that game.

inb4 I get banned for "DURR this board is for discussion of retro games only!"

[Anonymous No.815428]

>>815406
I'm just playing Lament of Innocence. It's a good game, a well done 3D transition for the series. It sure as hell isn't where it went bad.

[Anonymous No.815434]

>>815406
I'm just playing Lament of Innocence, it's a good game, a well done 3D transition for the series. I love that smooth 60fps and the combat is fun albeit repetitive. It just has a good ambiance all around and it sure isn't where Castlevania went bad.

[Anonymous No.815528]

>Konami still hasn't made a sequel to Rebirth on the 3DS eshop