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Why does peoples seem to prefer Wii for emulators?

>> No.800670

>>800660

Cheap, easy to hack, hooks up to your TV. Uses both Gamecube controller (for older Wii models) and classic controllers.

It's not the best, but far from the worst.

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800679

Because it's cheap and it's easy to hack.
Classic controller/Gamecube controller compatible.

>> No.800690

>>800670

This. Plus all wii and gc games from hd, along with netflix, bbc iplayer, and wiimc for all my pirated films & tv shows.

For the price, it is an awesomely flexible entertainment unit.

>> No.800693

>>800690
Netflix? On a Wii with CFW?

>> No.800702

Because they are easy to hack, have great compatibility and look great plugged into a CRT.

>> No.800710

>>800693
uhhhh... yes? there really isn't cfw for the wii either... it's more of just a homebrew launcher... there are cioses but those really aren't what come to mind when people think of cfw

>> No.800715

>>800702
This, old games look damn good and authentic on a crt

>> No.800758

>>800693

Yeah. Use emulated nands, and keep a clean one for using netflix

>> No.800769

>>800660
Not like there's anything else for a wii to be doing.

>> No.800832

>>800758
this is entirely unnecessary and a hassle, nintendo really didn't give a shit about homebrew users going on line except in mario kart wii(I think).

>> No.800857

>>800660
OG Xbox is much better.

>> No.800863

>>800660
Small, cheap, piss easy to set up, works on most any commonly found TV, base controller is good NES stand-in, classic pad is good SNES/PS1 stand-in, GC pad is good N64 stand-in, almost all controllers are wireless.

It beats just about every other emulation device in most every category except compatibility, as PC still runs more systems overall, but even with that said, the Wii is still a killer emulation device.

>> No.800864

>>800832
And even then, only if you cheat.

They don't really give a fuck if you're using a pirated version of the game.

>> No.800885

>>800832
I used to play MK Wii Online through an usbloader, never had any problems.

>> No.800891

>>800857
except that shit dpad, thus rendering it useless for most retro games.. and no usb or sd card ports for easy data transfer and storage... and no compatibiliy with gc or wii games... and having to invest money in an action replay just to softmod it... hmmmm maybe the xbox is pretty shit

>> No.800892

Because to get your PC to output to a CRT as well as a Wii does requires an ATI HD4000 or x300 and a VGA to component transcoder and lots of skills.

>> No.800897

>>800857
Community still hasn't gotten it to output 240p. Pleb tier.

>> No.800903

>>800857
is this a troll post?

>> No.800920

>>800857

If you really want to play all 3 good xbox games over and over, sure

>> No.800931

Niggas. I wanna hax my Wii but please.hackmii.com is down so I can't letterbomb my shit. What do I do?

>> No.800945

>>800931
Buy a cheap copy of brawl and follow the online instructions for it.

>> No.800956

>>800945
Oh boy. So that's the only way? Someone has to have the files from the site, I mean. I really wanted to avoid having to buy a game just for this.

>> No.800959

>>800956
Why do you not have Brawl already?

>> No.800961

>>800956
Look at this way, if you ever get a WiiU and hack the vWii, you'll have the means to. Can't wait for dat 3-core support for homebrew.

>> No.800967

>>800959
I do, I just don't have it where I am now.

>>800961
Yea. But I kinda wanted to do this now so I can play some shit. I'll figure it out.

>> No.800968

>>800920
I know this is /vr/ and not relevant all that much, but the Xbox really was an underrated console. It has a lot of really good exclusives going for it outside Halo. It's a shame MS dropped it like a rock once the 360 came out.

>> No.800986

>>800985
original gangsta

>> No.800987

>>800985
Pretty much.

>> No.800985
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800985

>>800857
german here, what does OG mean? original?

>> No.801010

Always wondered why most people waited for the Wii to use emulators on consoles...I use my PS2 with FMCB 1.8b(used the Independence exploit before) to play emus from old C64 to PSX with no problems

>> No.801040

>>801010
Most likely it has to do with the ease of doing it. It's almost impossible to brick if you get priiloader onto it, doesn't require any tools besides any of a number of games, which most Wii owners had at least one of them, and an SD card, which most people have for their digital cameras. Hell, now you don't even need a game to do it.

>> No.801049

I simply use my computer to emulate and connect a cheap usb joypad/controller to it

>> No.801058

>>801049
cool story brah

>> No.801067

>>801058
seriously, i don't get why anyone needs to hack a wii to emulate retro games

>> No.801071

>>801067

you can laze on the caouch

>> No.801082

Is there a way to mod the the Classic Controller Pro to not be wireless?

>> No.801083

I hook up my laptop to my tv via hdmi and play with a wireless keyboard.

>> No.801091

>>801067
enjoying games from the comfort of my bed? sayyyy whaaaaaat?

>> No.801097

>>801082
yes.

use google, you'll find your answer in 5 seconds

>> No.801098

>>801040
uh...all that FMCB requires is a PS2 memory card, and rhe Ind. exploit was as easy as buring a cdrom.
And what i wondered wasnt why people choose the Wii over the PS2 for emus, but why people didnt use consoles to emulate games before the Wii, when PS2 could already emulate games and the Wii wasnt even anniunced yet

>> No.801106

>>801098
because the newer shittier consoles hadnt been released yet

>> No.801109

>>801091
>>801071
I use a laptop

still, I prefer a chair and a desktop computer
just personal preference

>> No.801110

>>801097

I got nothing.

>> No.801118

>>801098
I don't know anything about PS2 mods, mind telling me more?

Also I've heard of people using Dreamcast and Xbox for emulation, because those things were easy-ish to mod and had a lot of flexibility with what they could run. Xbox was especially good because of the media center capabilities, it was a relatively easy to set up HTPC in early 2000s.

>> No.801123

>>800857
If I actually manage to get my Xbox hacked someday then I may be more inclined to agree.

>> No.801130

>>801109
>just personal preference

There you go.

>> No.801139

>>801106
what?

Back in PS2 era the PS2 could emulate games, yet almost no one did it..i simply wonder why people didnt do something they could and waited for the Wii to get released and then hacked to do it.

>>801118
http://www.sksapps.com/index.php?page=exploit.html
http://psx-scene.com/forums/official-free-mc-boot-forums/
sksapps site is sometimes slow when loading pages, but is the best option(i downloaded most of the emus for the ps2 from there)
if you find it hard to follow tutorials, just lok for freemcboot on youtube

>> No.801136

>>800892
Pretty much. Wii is the cheapest solution to getting emulated games on a CRT. Plus it's got a huge variety of controllers and adapters from all over the place. It's also currently the only way to play lightgun games with an actual lightgun on any screen you want.

>> No.801137

Personally I stumbled on a decent wii arcade stick for $5 and wanted to experiment with some games, so that's my excuse.

But again it's mostly because it's piss easy to do, impossible to fuck up, and costs next to nothing aside from any storage devices you might need. Wii also seemed to be a regrettable purchase for a lot of people too, but softmodding it makes it incredibly versatile. You could use a computer to emulate, yeah, but some people aren't into that.

>> No.801151

>>801139
>>801098
It's mostly because the Wii was the first console to have officially sanctioned emulation of a huge number of systems which naturally piqued the interest of people. Also because of this we get things like SNES and Genesis controller adapters for the system, which makes it even better for that.

>> No.801150

>>801139
Because Nintendo.

>> No.801186

>>801150
>>801151
i dont think you guys got the point...im not wondering why they use nintendo or wii.
What im saying is:
PS2 era, most people had a PS2
you can obviously play PS1, C64, MAME, Amiga, NoeGeo, NeoGeo pocket, GB, GBC, NES, SNES, all sega consoles before Saturn
almost no one used PS2 to emulate games.
Why?

Is not about what console is best to emulae games...
you can emulate a lot of consoles on Wii, and a lot of people do it.
they could even before on PS2, yet no one did

in other words...2001/2002, you can emulate a lot of games on your PS2, no one does it.
2006, you can do THE EXACT SAME THING YOU COLD ALREADY DO BEFORE; ths time on the Wii, everyone do it.

>> No.801195

>>801186
BECAUSE NINTENDO!!!!!!!!!!!!

>> No.801202

>>801098
There was a decent emulation scene for Dreamcast. XBOX, too.

>> No.801209

>>801186

Because you can set it all up without a modchip (whic used to be required for a PS2, this may have changed though, haven't looked into it for years)

>> No.801208

>>801186
Because people who used consoles to emulate before used either a Dreamcast or Xbox because PS2 is incredibly weak. Nintendo sold Wii to a lot of people who otherwise wouldn't even buy a console and indirectly created a huge installed base of homebrew users after homebrew became super easy to run, which is why you hear about more people using Wii for emulators instead of other consoles.

>> No.801219

>>801209
There is a memory card exploit available, but getting the file on there is somewhat tedious the first time around and people are more interested in using it for backup loaders.

>> No.801237

>>801186
The emulators that are on Wii are extremely mature in most cases, because they were able to simply port stuff over from Gamecube and take advantage of new features and extra horsepower. So you basically are getting PC-style platform consistency on a $99 box that runs everything.

Also it doesn't hurt that Nintendo was putting out emulators that
a) are possible to inject roms into (still the best option for Neo Geo emulation) and
b) serve as a proof of concept that development of homebrew versions of these emulators is worthwhile

>> No.801249

How much is an used Wii these days?

>> No.801253

>>801237
This.

Dreamcast was also pretty popular as an emulation box towards the end of its life cycle, simply because it became VERY cheap as sega slashed the price to try and clear the remaining units and was a fairly powerful piece of kit by the standards of the time. I remember using mine as a ps1 emulator almost as much as i did to play its own games.

>> No.801261

>>801249
Dirt cheap, with wii U being backwards compatable, there's little reason for people to hold onto their old wii when they upgrade their console.

>> No.801281

>>801249

probably pretty cheap, but if you want one with gcn support you need to make sure it has it since nintendo kinda sneakily removed that for no reason in later models

>> No.801330

>>800931
>>800956
>>800967
I figured it the fuck out. Plebs on /vr/ telling me to get a game to do it, lel.

>> No.801335

>>800660
It's easy to hook up to a CRT

>> No.801341

>>800710
>>800758
What the actual fuck man, why would you use Netflix on the Wii? It looks awful

>> No.801472

>>800857
>pick up an xbox
>it was obviously previously hacked/modded
>can't figure it out how to boot it
>I just want MAME
this pain is horrible

>> No.802152

>>801098

And Dreamcast could emulate beforw the PS2 was hacked. Wii makes it easier than both.

>> No.802169

>>801261

Gamecube support. Plus, I likw using my wavebird for emulation

>> No.802221

>>802169
The guy behind the Gamecube USB loading on Wii is working on a solution to allow Gamecube games to run on WiiU, this time even allowing standard USB controllers to work.

>> No.802240

>>802221

That would make the WiiU's vWii mode better, but, still I like my gc controllers. When I can USB load WiiU games, I'll convert :) </pirate>

>> No.802250

>>800931

Download this utility and follow the instructions

http://modmii.zzl.org/

>> No.802268

>>801330
>Year of our lord 2013
>Not sharing

>> No.802271

i still don't know how to do anything that isn't WAD installs and using emulators.
don't know how to use wiiflow.
I have a 3.1U version of it too, isn't that good?

>> No.802305

>>802271

Use >>802250 , It will update the Sysmenu (it is necessary to do a game-less hack i think) and setup all the necessary cios for you which is the messy part of the wii hacking process.

>> No.802352

>>802305

Also I'm not sure but I guess you might need a non-HC SD card as according to wikipedia sdhc support was added in 4.0

I also don't know much about technical stuff but it was very easy to hack with that wizard, currently playing some Wonderboy on genplus

Oh, and if you are using a 3rd party classic controller and you notice very slow response and stuttering you can try these modded emulator builds

http://www.mediafire.com/FIX94

Apparently the issue lies in the libraries used to compile homebrew. If you can, get an original controller to avoid this. I got a cheap knockoff controller and can't use it on Retroarch because the stuttering but the emulators on the mediafire link work fine.

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>>802352
some of the 3rd party classic controllers still don't work even with the modified emulators, especially ones that map the CC's analog stick to the 3rd party controller's D-pad. Something to do with stick calibration, the pad's default state (no directions being pressed) doesn't comply to the standard.

Pic related, the d-pad doesn't work for shit in any homebrew emulator, modified or not.

>> No.802396

>>802392
You should stay away from this controller anyway, the D-pad is a stiff piece of shit

>> No.802603

>>802268
I just downloader a thing called Wilbrand Launcher and then I googled for "hackmii_installer_v1.2.zip".
That's all you need to do the letterbomb.

>> No.802645

>>802240
>:)
</faggot>

>> No.804212
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804212

Is there a way to use usb controllers on Wii?

>> No.804476

>>800892
Couldn't you just use a CRT PC monitor? Are they that much worse?

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804486

>>800863
I've found that NES and SNES games run almost flawlessly, Genesis too.
N64 emulators are a bit iffy, though if there are just a few games you really want to play, you can install them as .wads (virtual console), thus giving you access to your favorite games from NES era to Wii on one system

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804489

>>804486
grabbed the wrong image

>> No.804535

Wait, are we talking about Virtual Console here? Because VC runs like a charm, especially when playing with a classic controller

>> No.804540

Wii is super easy to mod and install homebrew apps. Other systems you gotta jump through all kinds of bullshit to get working properly. And you can play classic games on a real tv with a GC controller.

>> No.804572

>>804476
CRT monitors (or at least the 17" ones I remember using around 1997-2005) don't look anything like CRT TVs since they have quite clear images(both in terms of resolution and image quality) and no scanlining.

>> No.805034

>>804572

My 2005 FD Trinitron has scanlines, but they are basically invisible unless less you stick your nose to the screen or are looking at the background of a cave level in SMW.

>sage for muh scanlines

>> No.805278

>>804212
i dont know but the Wii classic controller pro is pretty good like the controller you posted

>> No.805802

>>800660
>emulation
>not higan

casual

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805823

hope you don't mind if I butt into this thread but I suppose this is the most appropriate place to ask-
Are the NES/SNES controller adapters for Wii and Gamecube worthwhile? Do they work without lagging or anything?

I've been emulating on wii for a while now, and since obtaining enough sega stuff I was going to buy a real NES and SNES, but fuck the recent price hike if I can just get the controllers and emulate.

>> No.805839

>>805823
>casual
>p-pls don't mind me
>muh controller

fuck off

>> No.805847
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805847

>Thread about Wii emulation
>Oh cool let's see what people have to say
>First visible reply is regarding CRTs

>> No.805848

love this thing, get a classic controller and you're set for life

now if only there was netplay. i imagine the guys at wiibrew have wanted to touch on this for a while

>> No.805849

>>805839
>>805802
stop shitting up the board with these sorts of posts please.

>> No.805857

>>805849
fuck you

>> No.805872

>>805857

No seriously, we don't need CRTs and higan brought up everywhere, because it creates tension

some people just catch a glimpse of people using other things and it bothers them so they talk shit about everyone using something different and often bring up byuu and game grumps and it has really nothing to do with anything

no hostilities here, please. we've been through this a thousand times and the general consensus is that people are free to use whatever they want without being criticized. Now let me be clear it should be fine to suggest different things for the sake of improvements. There's a fine line.

respect other peoples' choices

>> No.805881

>>801253

And the Dreamcast can run NES games very well. Just slap a NesterSE bundle onto a CDR and everything is on one disc.

Other system less well though.

>> No.805935

>>804476
Actually, it's not even that. the video card has to be able to output true low resolution for it to actually appear as it did on the original console

Inb4 some guy comes here reposting squarepusher's argument that the Wii can't do the same either, it's got scaling tricks that pretty much amount to the same thing.

>> No.805946

>>805823
Controller adapters for Gamecube should work fine, there is no reason why they should introduce latency, don't know about Wii adapters but third party stuff is kinda iffy. Only thing is that most emulators might not have a button combination to re-enter the menu if you're using a Gamecube adapter (I know all GX emulators do, but Retroarch doesn't)

They're worthwhile if you really want that authentic experience without actually having the consoles. Also Genesis pad is awesome for fighting games.

>> No.805950

>>804212
There's a build of Snes9xGX somewhere with PS3 controller support

Other than that, nobody's really bothered writing the proper libraries for third party USB controllers, maybe run Linux and play games that way?

>> No.805952

>>805950
>linux
>hardware drivers

get ready to write your own

>> No.805959

>dios mios is still shit
>devolution dev is still a faggot

>> No.805967

>>805959
>dios mios dev making an alternative to devolution

>> No.806248

>>805823
http://retrousb.com/

Bought snes and nes adapters here and I'm very pleased with them.

>> No.807298

>>800920
2edgy4me
you'll never enjoy all the sega exclusives, kid

>> No.807793

How risky is installing CFW on a Wii? It's not mine, so I'm too afraid to brick it.

>> No.807826

>>807793
They're the ones who will brick it by updating the Wii / leaving auto-update / auto-internet all the time on. Nintendo will come down amongst it.

I hard-modded a cut-leg D2B I'm not letting them fuck my shit up, I've installed every IOS by hand and I'm still on 3.whatever.

>> No.807829

>>807826
What's this I heard about not needing CFW for the Wii?
Can you still run the homebrew channel without it?

>> No.807831

Speaking of which, I just did this to my Wii last night.

Why does my SNES emu lag so much? I was playing DKC and it was about a second between input and command.

>> No.807845

It is awesome. I'm playing windwaker with the 16:9 hack and with a hdmi-converter on my tv. Looks awesome. Also, now I have all my favourite gamecube games on my sd-card, I boot right into the homebrew-channel, where I can select wiiflow or the emulators. Everything in this small, white box.

>> No.807923

>>801341
That would be the cheapest way to watch Netflix on a CRT

>> No.807952

>>801472
download this pack, it's two iso's.

one is a cache installer, the other is the emulator and all the games.

burn both, run the cache installer disc fist then use DVD2XBOX to rip the second one to your xbox HDD. I recommend to E:\Emulators or E:\Games

http://cloudstor.es/f/rw/
http://cloudstor.es/f/rA/

>> No.810035

>>807831
Look into retroarch for homebrew.

>> No.810107

>>807831
Most likely something about the control setup. No idea why.

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>>801249
Got one(old one with GC support) for 70€, 4gb microsd/sd card, classic controller, wiimote, nunchuck, motion+ and scart/other cables

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810249

>>807831
>>810107
I have this problem too, but only with CCP.

using FCE Ultra GX or snes9x, wiimote(old ones without motion+), gamecube and classic controller(non-pro) is fine, but with CCP, theres like 1sec delay at worst, but then on games like megaman10 and sanic colours theres no dealy at all.

with retroacrh, Im not sure, sine it seems to be laggy as fuck and doesnt display colors right, but delay is still there, but then I've never used retroarch before so im doing something wrong?

But then its pirate/clone one, as it doesnt have "wii" on front, but feels and looks like real one

>> No.810257

personally, virtual console titles (I pirate them, still haven't gotten into the whole digital purchase thing). They are always accurrate as they were coded specifically to work well with the Wii, so it's better than attempting emulation and tweaking the settings all the time to avoid glitches and bad controls.

>> No.810297

>>810249
seems like that was retroarcs problem, but it fixed itself, but theres still that delay

>>810257
I guess but nes/snes/genesis VC wads doesnt work(black screen), but then n64/sm64 works fine, and no delay

>> No.810298

are there any advantages on installing a .wad file over emulating a rom on the Wii?
are .wad files somehow optimized for the Wii by nintendo themselves and therefore run and play better than a rom running through an indie 3th party emulator.

>> No.810356

So I know consoles implement v-sync because even HDTVs are prone to screen tearing.

How come computer emulators end up getting input lag, but the Wii doesn't?

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810386

A while back I asked about emulating on my cube, and people recommended to get a Wii instead since it wouldn't be much more expensive than a cardreader and action replay for the cube.
Turns out the cheapest Wii's I can get around here still cost €60 or more, and that's for just a wii without even any controllers.

So, my cardreader is on the way from China, it was only €2 or €3, should arrive in 2~3 weeks.
The action replay is another story though.
If I'd just were to buy it, is this the one I need?
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00006FRDA/sr=8-1/qid=1371143630/ref=olp_product_details?ie=UTF8&me=&qid=1371143630&seller=&sr=8-1

And if not, would it be possible to just use a generic memory card, and burn an iso of the action replay disk to a mini dvd?

Thanks in advance!

>> No.811425

>>810386
Anyone?

>> No.813659

Bump

>> No.814076

>>804486
>VC piracy
scum of the eath

>> No.814428

>>801098
The PS2 scene sites were an awful mess and I barely managed to navigate through them to get my PAL console softmodded. My ex took that when we split and I have yet to find a way to get McBoot running on my jap slim. I've got a PS3 for emulation now but it still would be nice to get some use out of the old console for muh CRT gaming.

>> No.814526

>>807793
It's easy as fuck to install the necessary files. All you need is a SD card. If any issues arise during installation, try a different SD card.