/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.7997502]

>1989
>kids are lining up around the block to buy Famicoms just to play Dragon Quest
>*sound of crickets*
>1997
>kids are lining up around the block to buy PS1s to play FF7
>Nintendo? Never heard of her.
>WTF? I hate RPGs now. Fucking shut-in baka losers ruined everything.

[Anonymous No.7997507]

>>7997502
They're basically the same game. Acting like DQ is some pure game series is denial.

Want to compare Black Isle shit? Fine. Another boring JRPG, though? Fuck you.

[Anonymous No.7997529]

>>7997507
FF and DQ are the least appealing and featureless of all JRPGs. The reason they get popularity is japanese people LOVE crap, and americans like things only by the fact that it's marketed/perceived popular.

I talk about this with my friend all the time. I have a good many games like Ruhdras, Star Ocean, Shining Force, Grandia, Tales of and shit are much more entertaining and worth praise compared to DQ or FF, any of them.

My saying is "the best examples of jrpgs are always the worst of that genre"

[Anonymous No.7997536]

>>7997529
wow you're so cool lol

[Anonymous No.7997537]

>>7997529
I like V.

[Anonymous No.7997548]

>>7997537
FF6 and DQV are the most palpable ones, personally. That has a lot to do with that being a very good age in general for games because of the consumer base they were entertaining in japan and the talent they got focused on a single project at that time.

[Anonymous No.7997556]

>>7997548
8 and 6 are the only FFs I can say I love though the remake of 7 may get on that list if I live to see it finished.

I only played DQ1-3, so not sure if it actually has a good entry.

Give me another Mass Effect any day of the week.

[Anonymous No.7997572]

>>7997502
Yeah OK, he was bitter. We know.

[Anonymous No.7997740]

Old fuck was upset that Sony beat him at his own dirty tricks.

[Anonymous No.7997745]

>>7997537
I like XIII (13)

[Anonymous No.7997756]

>>7997507
The point is that Yamauchi was being a bitch after Sony displaced Nintendo as the house for RPG's, he doesn't give a shit about how DQ simplified Ultima/Wizardry, he didn't even like games

[Anonymous No.7997760]

>>7997556
>8
Sorry to hear that anon
>>7997745
Go back to bed, Motomu

[Anonymous No.7997814]

>>7997502
t. rent-free gaijin

[Anonymous No.7997834]

>>7997760
8 is awesome if you're heterosexual.

[Anonymous No.7997843]

>>7997745
Damn, that's unfortunate.

>>7997834
holy kek

[Anonymous No.7997853]

>>7997745
Did you really like THE HALLWAY that much, Anon?

[Anonymous No.7997991]

>>7997853
The non-linearity of most other jarpigs is almost entirely illusory.

[Anonymous No.7997998]

>>7997502
He said his comment about RPGs in 1995. Before the N64 even came out. He was anti-RPG from the beginning. Obviously he wasn't going to say no to money, but he always had a weird bias against RPGs.

[Anonymous No.7998008]

>>7997991
Oh you're *that* faggot. Well, okay then.

[Anonymous No.7998029]

>>7997998
You *do* get that this dude lived through World War II, right? Pretty much everything he believed in was anathema to the D n' D Generation (which is what would've popped into his head upon hearing terms like "RPG"). His idea of videogames were as amusing diversions or children's toys. Not something with a storyline you have to keep track of and play for months on end (plus a bunch of maths bullshit for good measure).

[Anonymous No.7998065]

>>7997502
Why are children so mad about shit that happened (or didn't) before they were born?

[Anonymous No.7998076]

Miyamoto does not like JRPGs either. I find it funny that a lot of old Nintendo guys really don't give a shit about that style in the slightest.

Nintendo had the last laugh when they dickslapped the world with Pokemon.

[Anonymous No.7998089]

>>7998065
>you're not allowed to care about anything that happened before you existed
What is this metazoomer mindset

[Anonymous No.7998093]

>>7998076
haha yeah nintendo definitely "inserted" their "dicks" into our "wet pink assholes" with that one haha. *shits* uh oh

[Anonymous No.7998403]

>>7998089
Dudelet. Your degeneration believes in fake history and eats tide pods for a living. Literally no one outside tiktok gives a fuck about you.

[Anonymous No.7998787]

>>7997998
he reminds you of the 50 year olds in suits that controlled the record industry in the 1950s. they didn't like Elvis one bit. they weren't going to refuse all the money he was making them but given a choice they'd rather have sold you a Doris Day record.

[Anonymous No.7998805]

I've never understood this.
Didn't he only play a video game once, and hate it?
Why does he pretend to have all these specific opinions of other games he also hasn't played?
I mean fuck.

[Anonymous No.7998808]

>>7998805
I only remember that he was invited to play a Mahjong game on the Famicom or something and couldn't figure out how to use the controller.

[Anonymous No.7998817]

How many presidents of game companies actually play games?

[Anonymous No.7998848]

I find elderly Japanese businessmen very intimidating.

[Anonymous No.7998921]

>>7997548
Do you mean palatable?

[Anonymous No.7998930]

>>7998848
You shouldn’t. Jap execs literally just fail upward because of muh seniority.

[Anonymous No.7998931]

>>7998817
Not many mainly because the role of CEO is simply someone who is placed there by the board of directors (who are elected by shareholders to make sure the company makes their investments back) to ensure the company is doing its best to make money, For them, he doesnt need to play games, he needs to be able to judge which projects to approve because they will sell and then manage deadlines and budget. and unfortunately this will likely never change since on the other extreme of giving an auteur game dev a blank check, for every great game that comes out you can also get a Star Citizen that spends a decade and a hundred million dollars making not much.

[Anonymous No.7998941]

>>7998403
>mocks zoomers
>must be a zoomer
>?

[Anonymous No.7998948]

>>7997502
I wish I could punch Yamauchi right in the fucking face. One of the biggest asshole CEOs of all time.

[Anonymous No.7998950]

>>7998931
Case in point. The original Atari management were hippie California engineers with no concept of how to run a business. They get replaced by Ray Kassar and friends who were experienced businessmen but blankly ignorant of the product they were selling. Either way was not going to be sustainable in the long run.

[Anonymous No.7998956]

>>7998948
he and Michael Eisner should have gotten a hotel room together

[Anonymous No.7998957]

>>7997998
>makes a trillion off pokémon

[Anonymous No.7998992]

13 isn't that bad. the fights and strategy are actually pretty good but that's all it has going for it.

[Anonymous No.7999019]

>>7998948
what exactly did he do aside from not like jarpigs?

[Anonymous No.7999028]

>>7998065
What sort of retardation is this?
Why do people dig up bones?

[Anonymous No.7999051]

>>7997991
nonlinear level design and nonlinear story progression are different concepts.

[Anonymous No.7999085]

>>7999019
Made Nintendo a greedy control-obsessed outfit.

[Anonymous No.7999087]

>>7998941
>cant reading comprehension it's own zoom.
>must be a zoomer

[Anonymous No.7999105]

>>7999087
Yeah I guess not, you win whatever we were talking about. You like retro games?

[Anonymous No.7999110]

>>7999019
1. "Pirates are criminals who should be arrested and locked up", not just "I hate pirates so goddamned much".

2. Did not play well with other corporations. Quite a bit of "my way or the highway", even on joint-ventures.

3. Actually did seem to think of the West as gaijin. This can be seen most clearly in their initial market penetration attempts in America

4. Was initially unenthused at the very concept of 3rd party devs. This led to shit like the lockout chip and the licensing agreement system.

5. Was a copyright maximalist. Had an unfavorable opinion on shit like game rentals.

Those are just 5 off the top of my head.

[Anonymous No.7999141]

>>7999110
to be fair Japanese copyright law has no concept of fair use

[Anonymous No.7999154]

>>7999141
Yeah, but he pretty clearly thought the same should go in other parts of the world, local laws be damned.

[Anonymous No.7999160]

>>7999141
Also, Nintendo's support led to the creation of Japan's modern lending laws. So he essentially had a hand in setting that legal norm.

[Anonymous No.7999161]

>>7999154
yeah they didn't succeed in their attempts at getting game rentals banned in the US and Europe, they were told to eat shit

[Anonymous No.7999172]

>>7999110
Did I mention he also wouldn't license eroge? All that ended up as unlicensed FDS titles.

[Anonymous No.7999236]

>>7998930
Yeah, but what's the probability of them having ties to the Yakuza?

[Anonymous No.7999373]

>>7999154
why was it ok for MacArthur to require pixelated porn crotches in Japan?

[Anonymous No.7999501]

Reminder that Yamauchi originally wanted the SNES to have a 68000, cutting edge sound and graphics chips, and NES compatibility. This insane plan of course would have bankrupted the company. Which kind of proves he was Dilbert's boss incarnate.

[Anonymous No.7999508]

>>7999501
Was backwards comparability really that insane of an idea back then?

[Anonymous No.7999512]

>>7999508
It wasn't a viable idea because the NES's architecture was kind of unique and not like other cartridge-based consoles.

[Anonymous No.7999520]

Actually I want to say it was a bad idea to include with the Genesis because Master System compatibility prevented them from including a lot of features like sprite scaling and whatnot.

[Anonymous No.7999534]

>>7999154
he was one of those guys for whom power and control come first, even if it's at the expense of profits

[Anonymous No.7999551]

>>7999512
The SNES can run NES instructions perfectly and cartridge form factor is the easiest problem to solve, the hardest part is just resolving the differences between sound production between the two consoles

[Anonymous No.7999554]

>>7999551
No it's not that, it's that the NES has that unique dual bus setup which other consoles don't have.

[Anonymous No.7999569]

What I mean is the NES has the PPU bus brought out to the cartridge slot. Nothing else works that way and it's the main reason why SNES compatibility wouldn't work.

[Anonymous No.8000769]

fucking bitter old fart

[Anonymous No.8000970]

>>7999105
>You like retro games?
Nah. I just come here to shitpost trannime reaction pics, be a whiny little bitch, and squelch free thought and individuality. Like you and this fucknugget. >>7999028

[Anonymous No.8003051]

>>7999569
>redditard is retarded

[Anonymous No.8003081]

>>7997529
autists like you can't grasp the emotional effect of a great soundtrack and the brilliance of even a simple and catchy melody due to your severely under developed frontal lobe, of course you're baffled as to why the shitty sounding jrpgs aren't as popular

[Anonymous No.8003150]

>>8003081
>FF and DQ have good music
HAHAHHAHAHA NO.
FF and DQ are boring generic sludge and that's why jayps love it PERIOD. Go directly back to redit.

[Anonymous No.8003152]

>>7997502
lol

[Anonymous No.8003418]

>>7997502
Daily reminder that JRPGs aren't actually RPGs.

[Anonymous No.8003432]

>>7997529
The only good tales of game is phantasia. I have tried multiple times to get into other games in the series but they are all cringey weeb bait. Love phantasia though

[Anonymous No.8003536]

>>8003432
You must must must like Slayers to be able to appreciate Tales of. The fact is after 1995 and Tri Ace left they focused heavily on making it campy like Slayers. Also I doubt you played Destiny 2 (this one is so slayers it has all the same voice actors), Rebirth, and Destiny RC because those were the golden age ones and never brought over.

[Anonymous No.8003546]

>>8003432
Tales of Phantasia is weeb bait you retard

[Anonymous No.8003702]

>>8003081
kwab

[Anonymous No.8003739]

>>7997529
>...The reason they get popularity is japanese people LOVE crap...
Only if its made in Japan - see the original Xbox sales numbers and game releases in Nip-land

[Anonymous No.8003780]

>>7997502
Ahh nintendo went a whole different route. Look at his successor. Satoru Iwata took the company in a very kid friendly direction. He was going on the success of Kirby. Square and Enix were telling more mature stories. They were growing with their audience. Enix was strongly linked to shonen jump. They had a pulse on that shit. All of Nintendos competitors marketed their products as oh Nintendo is for kids. I think it was inevitable that mature story telling found its way into consoles targeted at more mature audiences. Microsoft didn't launch XBOX with a mario clone. They launched with space DOOM. We're in a weird era now though. Nintendo doesn't have an identity. They're just the mobile console with zelda. That said... Sony is just the 500 dollar FF7 machine now.

[Anonymous No.8003848]

>>8003780
>space DOOM
so... Doom?

[Anonymous No.8003994]

>>7997502
>kids are lining up around the block to buy PS1s to play FF7
LMAO no. Neither I nor any of my friends who had Playstations played that gay shit. Final Fantasy games were for the loser shutins who didn't have any friends to go on actual adventures with. I'll never understand the hype that has been retroactively applied to this game. No one talked about it at the time.

[Anonymous No.8004013]

>>7998956
>a suite on little st. james
fixed

[Anonymous No.8004130]

>>7999501
Would it have? Would it? It had most of that hardware anyway except the 68k. If it had that and a 320x224 mode Megadrive would have been beyond blown the fuck out. They should have at least completed the NES compatibility since that's the only reason they chose that dorito of a CPU anyway.

[Anonymous No.8004136]

>>8003994
Didn't you know any grils? Grils absolutely went nuts for Square games back then.