NOT YOUR USUAL SLIPGATE

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NOT YOUR USUAL SLIPGATE Anonymous Mon Jul 26 20:03:21 2021 No.7981943 [Reply] [Original]

DOOM THREAD / RETRO FPS THREAD - Last thread: >>7976796

DOOM/II/ULTIMATE/FINAL/64/CHEX/QUAKE/DUKE/HERETIC/HEXEN/ETC
Gameplay, WADs/Maps/Mods, Source Ports
All other 90s FPS welcome
~ Let's post like gentlemen ~

FAQ/PASTEBIN
http://pastebin.com/hzDnLpct
OP PASTE
https://pastebin.com/TWNE3nZZ

SO YOU WANT TO PLAY SOME FUCKING DOOM
(or Quake, Duke, Marathon, Thief, Deus Ex)
https://imgur.com/a/wWS8zXz

Same thing, in video format:
https://youtu.be/ietb4JwaaXA
https://youtu.be/CGj4gXyCzg0

IWADs and more (>6 GB): https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B47V8l2eVZKxRU82S3JkZkdBRXM
PortaDOOM: https://github.com/Kroc/PortaDOOM/releases
Quake Trilogy (2020-11): https://pastebin.com/Ucb11XhU
Downloads for various /vr/ shooters. (Includes Doom, Quake, Douk, Blood, and more)
https://mega.nz/#F!QXIk1bjB!NHRWGIfjcc77PyGgRlga4Q
https://mega.nz/#F!GtEQTISJ!CCJGyPEEEsZasc1PMXicUA
More /vr/ shooters
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1ppJLNvQEPfP4FsOCQBak1TMvPUIswCac
Half-Life WON version
https://pastebin.com/4Hva72v7
Doom Shovelware
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1Xy-YDWytlEa2CS9rit-PUgcieh4MrGzR
Fileplanet archives
https://www.quaddicted.com/files/mirrors/ftp.planetquake.com/
Doom RPG series
https://mega.nz/#!Y7AjEawA!Ta2RQuOC235v0wQoLtVR7HJoN7bsiawkujSlq8A1Da4
4CHAN DOSPACK + Win98 games (pre-configured):
https://mega.nz/folder/CldGAahb#yn_8LkRHraywPgKJMp5pqA

== INFO/LINKS ==
OFFICIAL DOOM WIKI
http://doomwiki.org/

WHERE TO FIND WADS
Vanilla/Boom: https://www.doomworld.com/forum/4-wads-mods/
ZDoom: http://forum.zdoom.org/viewforum.php?f=19
/idgames: https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/

TUTORIALS/UTILITIES
https://pastebin.com/7vKYWYp0

RESOURCES
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewforum.php?f=37

== /VR/DOOM COMMUNITY ==

THREAD ARCHIVES
https://desuarchive.org/vr/search/text/%22doom%20thread%22/type/op/

MAKING NEW THREADS PROPERLY
https://pastebin.com/8mDnrsrB

IMAGE DATABASE
http://vrdoom.booru.org/?page=post&s=list

OUR WADS
https://pastebin.com/5sKRiJzS

Anonymous Mon Jul 26 20:03:51 2021 No.7981945
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=== CURRENT RELEASE ===
Hard Fast Faggot Maps
Version 1.7: >>7949591
idgames release TBD

=== CURRENT PROJECTS ===
VIOLENT RUMBLE
Project Mega folder: https://mega.nz/folder/LVlWVK5D#H5iqeD61bSItMIVeGqymTQ
Latest update: >>7979407

VRSKINS 3.9 UPDATE (DELAYED): >>7967424
Submissions closed
Voting period TBA

=== NEWS ===

[7-26] KMQuake 2 test build, feedback wanted https://leray.proboards.com/thread/4098/new-kmq2-test-version

[7-26] Doomkid Vanilla Wad Pack Revision XII https://www.doomworld.com/forum/post/2356798

[7-25] DoomWare (like the TF2 plugin) (for Zandronum) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oRiBYVOPxdI

[7-25] GZDoom 4.6.1 https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=72879

[7-25] Dread (Amiga 500 Doom Clone) Ep. 8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y9fQw1W22i8

[7-22] Earthless: Prelude on Doom Classic Unity Port (apparently no widescreen graphics like expected)
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/120458-earthless-prelude-now-on-doom-classic-unity-port/

[7-20] Hell Forged Updated to 1.10 beta https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=13397

[7-19] Realms DEEP Map Jam
https://twitter.com/3DRealms/status/1417212652858773504

[7-16] Zone 400, new megawad by Pcorf
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/123296-zone-400-released-new-32-level-megawad-for-doom-2/

[7-12] PsyDoom updated to 0.8.0
https://github.com/BodbDearg/PsyDoom/releases

[7-12] Marathon: Resurrection (UT TC) updated to v2.5
https://www.moddb.com/mods/marathon-resurrection

[7-12] DBK debuts with Dungeon Synths
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/123189-dbk01-dungeon-synths/

[7-09] Panzerchasm for Chasm: The Rift updated
https://www.moddb.com/games/chasm-the-rift/downloads/panzerchasm-03-with-music

=== PREVIOUS ===
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-vrTgPGmlLwdO5VHHCJMxmRD05E6XlNmqHIN8aykRG0

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>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 26 20:10:40 2021 No.7981959 >>7981945 >>7981943 Latest news Retroquad 0.6.6 Public release https://twitter.com/mankrip/status/1419811121603698688

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 26 20:16:40 2021 No.7981980 >>7981918 We've gotta make an update though, so not quite done yet.

Anonymous Mon Jul 26 20:31:22 2021 No.7982026

>>7981978
For one thing, this is in Darkplaces, and I explicitly fucking said it could possibly work in DP but definitely not QS, so that proves nothing.
Second, I also already said that theres a difference between the player's collision between the world (their .hull) and between other entities (their .size). The video doesnt show Ranger being able to fit through gaps in geometry that he couldnt at full size.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 26 22:20:08 2021 No.7982293 File: 7 KB, 320x200, INTERPIC.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] YER ALL GONNA BURN IN THE FIRE

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 26 22:35:09 2021 No.7982316 Classic DOOM, Quake 1/3, and Blood are the only fps that matter

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 26 22:38:05 2021 No.7982321 >>7982316 I played Quake 1.5 but never heard of Quake one-third. Is it any good?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 26 22:41:22 2021 No.7982330 >>7982316 If you don't like Duke, you're alien scum.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 26 22:48:22 2021 No.7982347 File: 138 KB, 1027x780, Triangles.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] What are these blue triangles in Doom Builder trying to tell me?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 26 22:49:23 2021 No.7982350 >>7982316 >Quake 3 >MP only Yeah, nah. Also, UT '99 was better in every way.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 26 22:49:44 2021 No.7982352 >>7982347 They're for making slopes in zdoom formats

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 26 23:04:36 2021 No.7982387 Newbie here, trying to run disjunction but am getting missing textures. DL'd from doomworld/idgames

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 26 23:07:58 2021 No.7982393 >>7982387 are you running it with the doom 2 wad?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 26 23:16:10 2021 No.7982425 >>7982393 That fixed it, thanks.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 26 23:21:38 2021 No.7982440 File: 595 KB, 1600x720, Screenshot_20210727-102018.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Holy crap, I'm getting my ass handed to me.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 26 23:39:28 2021 No.7982478 >>7982440 is that d-touch? how does it fare?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 26 23:42:37 2021 No.7982485 >>7982478 It's definitely playable with a peripheral controller. It runs pretty well, though some settings/mods/maps can cause it to chug.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 26 23:46:17 2021 No.7982489 File: 166 KB, 384x256, 1612738668678.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Are there any references for how long it takes each different raise/lower speed to move? Like an easy way to calculate a "timer" in Boom?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 26 23:55:53 2021 No.7982516 >>7982489 The Doom engine measures time in tics. 35 tics is equal to a second.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 26 23:58:23 2021 No.7982524 File: 37 KB, 398x605, notepad++_5SwgZ6tE9S.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I was snooping around in WRATH's code to see how some of the guns work, and... ... I hope there's a good explanation as to why this is the way it is...holy fuck.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 00:03:12 2021 No.7982536 >>7982516 then how the fuck do infinite framerate sourceports that are demo compat like prboom work???

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 00:04:03 2021 No.7982539 >>7982524 snooPING AS usual, I see

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 00:21:34 2021 No.7982583 >>7982536 iirc, uncapped framerate is interpolated, rather than increasing the ticrate.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 00:25:08 2021 No.7982598 >>7982536 by decoupling the framerate from the game logic so the underlying logic operates at 35 tics per second, independent of how fast the renderer is running

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 01:22:40 2021 No.7982736 >>7982539 Candlesniffing fuckfencee.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 02:07:45 2021 No.7982814 >>7982489 It takes around 30 seconds for a 1024 height floor to reach zero using the vanilla action(s).

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 02:24:52 2021 No.7982839 Good lord. In what world were we ok with PgUp and PgDn being used for flight controls. Things were simultaneously more difficult for child me and easier somehow...

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 02:25:54 2021 No.7982840 Duke 64 baby.

Anonymous Tue Jul 27 02:45:08 2021 No.7982857

I want to make a mod where doomguy is a sex crazed lunatic that rapes everything to death. NOT like hdoom, the monsters wouldn't be anime girls and they don't want sum fukk. He becomes the coomguy and deteriorates into a hyper-perverse animalistic state that can no longer speak but screeches.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 02:46:37 2021 No.7982860 >>7982840 duke 64 would be a lot cooler if you could actually remap the controls like every other n64 shooter and not use one of 5 retarded presets that all suck dick

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 02:52:49 2021 No.7982873 File: 171 KB, 1024x768, 1557499776553.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7982293 preacher was such a sick mod

Anonymous Tue Jul 27 03:01:37 2021 No.7982889

>>7982860
When you don't know any better then it works.
My brother, sister, and I never even got past level 3 or 4. The first 2 city levels were the best.
Then we just played deathmatch on the pirate ship level and tried to shrink each other and step on them and fly around with the jetpack.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 03:02:58 2021 No.7982890 >>7982889 it was a shitty game dude.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 03:07:21 2021 No.7982893 >>7982890 It's literally duke.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 04:01:28 2021 No.7982936 https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/Ports/megawads/hardfun

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 04:02:14 2021 No.7982939 File: 78 KB, 640x960, 1411680417402.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7982936 It... It got accepted?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 04:05:58 2021 No.7982940 File: 1.25 MB, 380x380, PARTY HARD.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7982936 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTLWgtQJfqs

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 04:18:05 2021 No.7982946 >>7982936 I think HFFM being admitted onto Idgames is news worthy. >>7981945

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 04:32:12 2021 No.7982963 >>7982936 finally

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 04:42:08 2021 No.7982979 Doom 1 is better than Doom 2. There, I said it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 04:53:26 2021 No.7982993 >>7982524 There is never a good explanation for shit like that.

Anonymous Tue Jul 27 05:06:49 2021 No.7983004

Newfag here. I wanted to see the Doom levels in Chex quest but nothing I type into the console command in Gzdoom seems to work.
I tried IDCLEV E1M6, idclev E1M6 and the like.
Not even something I thought would be simple like idkfa which is supposedly super armor would work.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 05:08:41 2021 No.7983007 File: 70 KB, 600x600, 0af.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7982936 This kills the DumbWorld schizos...

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 05:10:18 2021 No.7983012 >>7982857 Isnt CrudeDoom almost exactly like that?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 05:17:04 2021 No.7983018 >>7983004 Either use cheat code idclev16 out of console, or use map console commands.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 05:19:49 2021 No.7983023 >>7982524 Arrays are for casuals

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 05:25:35 2021 No.7983037 >>7983018 Oh, I see. I had to drop the E and M. So in the original doom you would just type the letters on your keyboard in order and it would work, huh? Neat.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 05:57:26 2021 No.7983061 >>7982936 Damn what's that score screen music? I know every note of that song but my brain won't work anymore..

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 05:59:13 2021 No.7983063 >>7983061 ah nevermind I remembered, Journey to Silius

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 07:47:45 2021 No.7983161 >>7982347 They mark vertices. I think if they're close enough together or something.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 07:59:10 2021 No.7983179 >>7982936 Seems like only yesterday that we got the word cloud for it

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 08:26:05 2021 No.7983205 File: 100 KB, 300x300, 1625578337720.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7982936

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 08:27:01 2021 No.7983207 File: 168 KB, 425x450, 1617809149479.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7982936

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 08:27:38 2021 No.7983209 >>7982524 alreadytoucher? i hardly know 'er

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 08:36:06 2021 No.7983220 >>7983037 Original doom didn't have a console. I think quake was the first big one to do.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 08:46:40 2021 No.7983232 Alright fellas, what does your doom folder look like. Mine's just the download from the OP with a few added folders for stuff I've downloaded myself.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 08:48:48 2021 No.7983234 File: 33 KB, 873x478, DOOM.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7983232 forgot pic

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 08:52:36 2021 No.7983242 File: 707 KB, 1920x1080, 1625550474483.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7981945 this actually looks nice https://twitter.com/mankrip/status/1419819298005135360

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 08:57:38 2021 No.7983250 >>7981959 oh, shit >>7983242

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 08:59:38 2021 No.7983254 File: 18 KB, 800x450, 1619472861423.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7981959 >9GB of disk space required

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 09:00:54 2021 No.7983256 >>7982347 they shows up in triangle sectors, it's to make slopes

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 09:03:29 2021 No.7983257 > 1080p > Eviternity chugs > 720p > Eviternity runs like a dream I guess I'll try implementing dynamic resolution scaling then.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 09:13:40 2021 No.7983268 >>7981959 What is this?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 09:13:49 2021 No.7983269 File: 17 KB, 74x97, 1603942011703.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7982936 amazing! now to wait for the full thrust fixes

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 09:15:55 2021 No.7983275 >>7983254 Holy shit lol.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 09:20:11 2021 No.7983282 >>7981959 >>7983254 lol, why

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 09:50:27 2021 No.7983313 File: 10 KB, 383x186, folder.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7983232 New laptop. Crispy runs Plutonia. wads contains a small assortment of assorted wads.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 09:54:32 2021 No.7983318 >>7981642 Looks kinda cool, but the Thor's sigil could be a bit more detailed (the Quake logo makes it seem insignificant ATM)

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 09:57:39 2021 No.7983321 >>7983242 >Melt-mapping Will it also melt my computer if I run this in GZD with max settings?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 10:03:45 2021 No.7983332 >>7983321 well, post about how you made a quake map run in doom, I'm interested

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 10:13:26 2021 No.7983347 >>7983282 >>7983254 >>7983275 Because he added the old non reforged texture packs included with conversions for it, the old QRP and more for all maps and converted for it. it doesn't look bad, in fact it looks good in it. >>7983242

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 10:18:01 2021 No.7983352 >>7983332 first you connect the scrunglebap to the scringlecharger port

ViolentRumbleAnon !8KaxJ9XaEs Tue Jul 27 10:24:43 2021 No.7983361
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Did some quick testing in regular Quakespasm (usually use QSS, MarkV, and FTE) and discovered some things:
>nothing could load because I incorrectly precached a sprite that was already correctly precached (feel free to yell at my retarded ass any time something like this happens)
>my enemy randomizer DOES work despite QS apparently having some sort of mid-map monster precache issue
>new method I'm trying for func_monster_spawner DOESN'T work because of aforementioned issue (guess I'll make a billion autistic checks to get around it for the sake of future convenience)
>Quakespasm's handling of weapon recoil makes the railgun feel awful to shoot (not interpolated, might have to lower)

Welp, guess I got more work to do... Also I feel really gay tripfagging, but last thread probably got confusing with all the autistic QC posting (that I wasn't involved in) so here we go.

>>7983318
Worked on it a bit more since then. Think I might just ditch the body lights and just keep the electricity, but not sure.

Anonymous Tue Jul 27 10:39:31 2021 No.7983390

How come when I place enemies in my levels, they waste half their time walking around in circles like dumbshits instead of attacking the player?

I'm trying to make cool encounters with ambushes and shit like you get in classic wads but like, the door will open and then the mancubus or whatever just spins around like a retard, I can just stand there and watch sometimes.

Is there something about the AI and level geometry that would cause a weird interaction like this?

Anonymous Tue Jul 27 10:39:37 2021 No.7983391
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Revae posted small REKKR update on Twitter. I guess it's not much, but anyway:
>WAD itself is 50MB now.
>He has made a bunch of widescreen graphics in last 4-5 days.
>"Now to make a decent AltHUD I guess."
https://twitter.com/RevaeRavus/status/1419882279858446340

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 10:43:55 2021 No.7983393 >>7983361 QSS is better than QS when it comes to loading custom textures and even monsters the only problem is that they didnt come with a external replacement for monster textures

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 10:53:06 2021 No.7983407 >>7983332 By running the protocol 666 of course... I blame the minimalistic HUD for that brianfart ;(

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 10:54:33 2021 No.7983413 >>7983390 Enemies need some place to walk, being boxed in a box as wide as they are fucks with their AI. Also they are squares, not circles as default builder shows, so they can get stuck in walls unwittingly.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 10:56:40 2021 No.7983415 >>7983361 that looks so god damn fucking sexy

Anonymous Tue Jul 27 10:58:35 2021 No.7983424
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>>7982321
You mean Counter-Strike 1.5? Yeah, thats the fourth only fps that matters.

>>7982316
Don't forget descent. People always forget descent...

>>7982026
Further on from the post you quoted, that anon corrected himself and conceded that you were correct.

Anonymous Tue Jul 27 11:09:32 2021 No.7983457
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>>7983424
Descent was fucking amazing. These fuckers probably trained me for ambushes more than any revenant closet ever did

Its a shame the 6D movement and navigation was such a filter for people, still considering making a mod to incorporate it but I've gotta keep working on my Zscript if I want to do it right.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 11:09:48 2021 No.7983458 File: 489 KB, 1024x1024, Word cloud.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7982936 Hell yeah lads, congrats.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 11:11:27 2021 No.7983461 >>7981943 I recently played through DOOM II with a friend for the first time in my life. I hated the fucking soundtrack and the level design. Is the first DOOM any better?

Anonymous Tue Jul 27 11:14:10 2021 No.7983464
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I played through the Sinister 625 q1 mappack from June and "The Dead Room" gave me chills, just an awesome concept (an finely executed). This style is what quake2 should have been - evolving the q1 setting/atmosphere further into the gameplay rather than relying on pure action.

>>7983361
Beautiful

Anonymous Tue Jul 27 11:19:45 2021 No.7983475

>>7983461
Its Episodic, so you'll reset your inventory at the start of each episode, but its a fairly different experience. Less enemy types, maps are tighter and generally smaller, and no super shotgun being the biggest differences.

If you're looking for something different instead,

Heretic - similar but with a bit more variety and an inventory system
Hexen - More of A standard fantasy campaign, different classes and more exploration/puzzle/switch hunting style dungeons.
Strife - More into the RPG realm, with accuracy and health upgrades, more inventory, merchants and dialog trees, and futuristic.

While the others have mods as well, Doom 1/2 also have a shitload of em, some like GMOTA or Golden Souls basically turning it into an entirely different game.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 11:20:27 2021 No.7983476 File: 94 KB, 337x225, UH.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7983457 Damn, these guys were brutal, you've given me flashbacks. They appear quite early on, and IIRC their intro was even via an ambush by level 6.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 11:21:26 2021 No.7983479 >>7983461 doom 1 has subjectively better music and less annoying levels but if you don't like doom 2 you probably won't like final doom or most map packs

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 11:21:35 2021 No.7983480 >>7983461 Many people consider Doom 1's level design better, I would say it has more focus on exploration than combat, but you might not like the 4th episode which was added after Doom 2 was made.

Anonymous Tue Jul 27 11:24:17 2021 No.7983483
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Posting from last thread:

I am currently working on a map and having a tough time with designing a certain encounter. Basically what I usually do is being stingy with weapons and health and giving people just enough plus a little bit to survive.
For this though I want to go all-out, i.e. full backpack, all weapons, 200% everything - and of course it needs a fitting encounter.

What I have now here is some kind of arena and it's filled with monsters, including two cyberdemons.
The idea was to make you move and watch out for all those projectiles and having you go to town on them with your arsenal WITHOUT becoming slaughter, i.e. it should be easy enough so you don't need a specific strategy to survive, but still not too easy.
Now what I realized was that as soon as the carnage starts, there's MASSIVE infighting and basically if I run around the area in a circle for a few minutes, the cyberdemons will have taken care of most monsters.
Could that be spun as a valid strategy? Like you first enter and go "oh shit", but when you take a step back you notice that they're already killing each other?

Feedback would be appreciated. Also note that the arena area is not quite finished yet, I have just laid out the general layout and started adding some details.

Boom format, tested with latest PrBoom+
https://www.dropbox.com/s/3cq338gfqil8iw7/arenatest.wad?dl=0

Some anon had suggested to put the Cybies on platforms, but I really want them to be able to roam around from the very beginning.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 11:32:03 2021 No.7983501 i wonder how the unreal devs felt when their game got blown into another fucking plane of existence by HL1 a few months later and was never heard from ever again

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 11:32:48 2021 No.7983503 File: 19 KB, 389x295, 1619084446653.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7983480 I feel like when I'm getting burnt out on megawads, going back and playing DTWID and 2002ADO make great pallet cleansers.

Anonymous Tue Jul 27 11:35:46 2021 No.7983506

>>7983483

This is a pretty common pproblem and it's why most maps rely on moster closets and ambushes rather than just having a shitload of enemies wandering around.

Having said that infighting is an absolutely valid strategy and it's a big part of that pistol-start UVmax hardcore speedrun type of playstyle. The key in that case is to somehow make it so the player has to provoke the infighting- If it happens without the player's input, then you're just creating a monster encounter that takes care of itself.

It's a difficult balance to strike, you just have to fuck around with playtesting it over and over, eventually you'll get a feel for what works and what doesn't. A lot of my earlier maps suffered the same issue.

There's also the fact that sometimes you just have to let go and accept you can't 100% curate every moment of a player's run, we're not Valve here, that approach works for some games but Doom should be a bit more freeform and chaotic.

Anonymous Tue Jul 27 11:39:00 2021 No.7983513

>>7983483
Infighting as a way to circumvent slaughter encounters is a pretty common theme, especially when involving cyberdemons and the player is assumed to be underequipped. Map 1 of AA basically has you hit the ground running with it. Same with using telefrag options to get rid of bosses. I would say just keep in mind if you want it to be the intended method for an encounter, you should make sure the player will have at least enough space to utilize it purposely.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 12:03:54 2021 No.7983557 >>7983242 Is Retroquad patreon-only?

Anonymous Tue Jul 27 12:16:42 2021 No.7983582
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>>7983242
>>7983557
>Retroquad is intended to be an engine for people struggling in life
I guess it's made for pic related.

Seriously though, it took me several minutes on his patreon to understand what the point of this is. His "what & why" is buried in a massive tl;dr, whereas it should be his topic sentence at the top of the page.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 12:18:30 2021 No.7983586 >>7983557 >Public Release 0.6.6 >Patreon post is available for everyone, so you can reach that Google Drive download Yeah, I guess.

Anonymous Tue Jul 27 12:23:56 2021 No.7983591
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>>7983557
>>7983582
Maybe during development only?

>Goals
>AU$208.82 of AU$461.62 per month
>Not abandoning Retroquad.
>
>If this goal is not achieved, I will have to look for a second job and stop developing Retroquad.

A second job? This guy is a programmer with graphics dev experience and his patreon makes it sound like he's almost homeless. I don't get it.

Anonymous Tue Jul 27 12:24:34 2021 No.7983593

>>7983557
Nope, only the beta builds, public builds are free as always
also the guy got in some shitty huge debt due to the fucking brazillian state water services where he lives, plus he almost offed himself if it wasn't for his wife and family, its depressive as fuck what he went, though things are starting to change a bit.

>>7983582
if i had a bit more of money i would support it.
His rendering concept for the engine is great, it reminds me of what panzerschrek was doing for Q2 before he moved to Panzerchasm development.

Q1 needs more rendering love outside the never updated software rendering and the never updated hardware that is still stuck on GLquake mode

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 12:26:58 2021 No.7983601 >>7983461 why did you hate the music

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 12:38:35 2021 No.7983618 >>7983591 see >>7983593 the water company fucked him sideways

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 12:43:45 2021 No.7983620 >>7982936 Congrats, lads!

Anonymous Tue Jul 27 12:45:22 2021 No.7983629
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>>7983601
Hard to describe, but I felt like a lot of the tracks were equally as devoid of effort as the level design in the later maps.
The music sounded annoying, but maybe that's the inevitable effect when you're stuck looking for a badly placed skull key or switch for several minutes, with the only sound being the same track in an endless loop.

Aside from that, I did like the enemy placement and their abundance in the levels. I didn't much care for the puzzles.

Anonymous Tue Jul 27 12:49:02 2021 No.7983636

>>7983593
Yeah, his life seems to be very scuffed... and yet he's doing Retroquad. I didn't really paid close attention to it (just "looks neat, I guess"), but philosophy behind it actually sounds cool. I hope that things will keep changing for him for the best.

...why the hell I'm not working on anything? His situation is way worse than mine and he's making this while I just can't at least write down a "design document" of sorts for a mod. I should start acting instead of writing about this here as that's probably too annoying to read. Sorry.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 13:21:45 2021 No.7983702 >>7983629 >>7983461 Give Doom 1 a go, then.

Anonymous Tue Jul 27 13:23:13 2021 No.7983706
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>>7983506
>There's also the fact that sometimes you just have to let go
This. Sandy Petersen has similar advice:
https://youtu.be/TgmRFuE6aTg
Sometimes your great idea doesn't work out, and instead of trying to force the idea into your project when the idea clearly isn't working, just scrap the idea. Shelve it, and maybe you can use it in the future on a different map or game.

Anonymous Tue Jul 27 13:27:53 2021 No.7983717

>>7983483
People shit on "linear" corridor experiences but honestly the best way to do this is a good "run and gun" segment where you don't fight too many things at ONE simultaneous moment, but there's plenty of things that you can kill fast enough that you can, and are encouraged to, keep moving. One way to do this is to have rooms that have lots of isolated hitscanners that can target you after you enter the room, but can't if you dash through it quicker, which encourages the player to keep moving and take out each thing that shows its face quickly because more will be coming.

Anonymous Tue Jul 27 13:30:34 2021 No.7983723

>>7983629
Agreed with a majority of the base tracks becoming grating when you're lost in a switch hunt. Nowadays I replace the music with the Doom 64/PSX tracks when doing a replay because I find it fits the atmosphere better without becoming repetitive.
If you liked the enemy placements and abundance while disliking puzzles, don't listen to the other guy about Final Doom and give Plutonia a try - people consider it seminal for custom map design because it was one of the first to use the roster effectively rather than have revenants/hell knights randomly sprinkled in rooms like in the original maps.

Anonymous Tue Jul 27 13:34:35 2021 No.7983732

I want a Doom wad that's just all "map 1" style maps. E1M1, MAP01, TNT01, etc. I love all these starter intro maps that are always short, sweet, fast, with cute little aesthetic base designs and nothing overly complicated about the switches. And they always have the best music, gets you pumped to just start running and gunning.

Anonymous Tue Jul 27 13:45:24 2021 No.7983753

>>7983717
>>7983706
>>7983513
>>7983506
Thanks for the input. Just asking: Did anybody play the map?
Anyhow, I now adjusted the encounter a bit. Instead of throwing everything at you right away it's now staggered depending on how much you move through the arena.
Now, when you're trying to just run through the arena, more and more monsters are spwaning. The funny thing is here, that if you do this, you will provoke massive infighting that in the end leaves little more than the two cybies. If you stay in the front and try to dodge projectiles there and fight, you will need much more ammo in the end.
In fact,I had to laugh a bit at how much more ammo I had left when I was just running around for a bit without shooting at anything at first.
But I like it much more now than before.

If you don't mind, try it out and tell me what else needs improvement, combat-wise.
Please note that I suck at Doom, so maybe this fight is not hard at all for other people, but for me it's just hard enough that I don't complain about an absolute fucking bullshit encounter.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/qashsjmbrabiqbz/arenatest_new.wad?dl=0

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 13:47:12 2021 No.7983757 >>7983753 I'll try it if it works with gzdoom

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 13:48:24 2021 No.7983761 >>7983757 It's Boom format, so it should work

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 13:49:47 2021 No.7983764 File: 49 KB, 450x350, img_0770.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7981943 >>7981945 Tasyspleen TS500 will be this Saturday https://twitter.com/tastyspleentv/status/1420068100335185921 Join in for fun and Frags!

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 13:50:18 2021 No.7983767 >>7982440 Is that Disjunction? I found it got pretty brutal even on kb&m, may not be a good choice for mobile gaming.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 13:52:14 2021 No.7983774 >>7982524 You can use arrays even in vanilla Quake if you use a modern QC compiler. And theyre using DP, so they probably have even more coding amenities to avoid nonsense like this.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 13:57:40 2021 No.7983783 >>7983601 Too much organ, not enough stolen riffs.

Anonymous Tue Jul 27 14:15:55 2021 No.7983820
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>check out q2test
>enemies die instantly and become nonsolid instead of bodyblocking with the same last stand animations every time
it makes the combat considerably faster

>>7983764
I heard the guy behind tastyspleen died.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 14:23:20 2021 No.7983837 >>7983820 >quake 2, but good Why'd they fuck it all up, bros? Why...

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 14:24:08 2021 No.7983840 >>7983723 I'll give it a go.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 14:26:20 2021 No.7983847 >>7983837 Tim WALLETS

Anonymous Tue Jul 27 14:33:28 2021 No.7983869

>>7983753
I played you're map, although I personally wouldn't ask someone to playtest something that doesn't even have an exit, what was there was okay and not bad looking. Here's a demo
https://files.catbox.moe/dp5895.lmp
I comfortably beat this encounter on my first try since you can really just bfg everything. Maybe try putting the bfg somewhere within the area behind some enemies so you can't immediately overpower them. If you want to reduce enemy infighting it's a good idea gennerally to have less enemy diversity. There were also some unobtrusive but nonetheless strange design choices. Why do you give the player mega armor and a mega sphere at the same time? Why doesn't first door not use a door texture?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 14:34:23 2021 No.7983872 A good doom level is like a song. Putting every enemy type in one room is just mashing all the keys on the piano at once.

Anonymous Tue Jul 27 14:49:27 2021 No.7983908

>>7983869
Thanks, that was very interesting. Also, your bfg seems to be much stronger than mine lol.
Anyhow,
>to playtest something that doesn't even have an exit
As I wrote in the original post, this is really only just this single encounter. I am building the rest of the level and I don't have problems with that, but I really just wanted feedback on this single fight (for now). Should have said that I didn't put an exit in lol, so sorry for that.

>I comfortably beat this encounter on my first try since you can really just bfg everything.
Yes, that's intended. And you came out with roughly the same amount of ammo as me when testing. And I don't know if you're a particularly good Doom player, but holy shit, your movement is so much better than mine. Just a question - hadn't I mentioned the strategy with the spwaning enemies, would you still have been running through the arena?

>Why do you give the player mega armor and a mega sphere at the same time?
Why not? I also give you a backpack full of ammo.

>Why doesn't first door not use a door texture?
For fucking with you a little bit :^) Same reason the first rooms use startan and the standard floor/ceiling.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 15:01:14 2021 No.7983927 >Full Thrust Man, you sure you wanna cut out the big room with the crushers? I thought that was kinda cool.

Anonymous Tue Jul 27 15:06:27 2021 No.7983936

>>7983927
Yeah, kinda goes against the fast in HFFM since you have to wait for the flesh walls to lower. And that's before the final timed gauntlet that already pauses the combat a bit. Also the updated version comes with more fixes and balance changes.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 15:08:14 2021 No.7983941 >>7983936 Alright, if you say so. I'll put in the "launch ramp" at the exit so you can't skip the end fight.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 15:10:33 2021 No.7983950 >>7983941 Thank you, I never even thought of being able to trigger the exit like that when testing.

Anonymous Tue Jul 27 15:18:50 2021 No.7983974
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Recommendations for me to check out after beating Eviternity? - This will have been my first experience outside of vanilla Doom and I am having a blast - currently on Map17 - Thanks to the anon who hooked me up with the Castlevania ipk - Would love to get insight / suggestions on the next pursuit post Eviternity though

Anonymous Tue Jul 27 15:20:03 2021 No.7983982
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I'm already not a fan of Quake II.
Is it supposed to have music? All I can hear is smoe kind of ambient industrial sounds. Nothing like the original.
And somehow this shotgun feels even less effective than the first one.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 15:20:07 2021 No.7983983 >>7983974 Try 2048 Units Of /vr/, then give HFFM a go once I've updated it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 15:20:54 2021 No.7983985 >>7983820 >q2test Is that supposed to be a workable beta, or a fully serious restoration project for Quake 2 being in the works?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 15:21:04 2021 No.7983987 >>7983982 It's supposed to have music, yes.

Anonymous Tue Jul 27 15:22:00 2021 No.7983992

>>7983908
>hadn't I mentioned the strategy with the spwaning enemies, would you still have been running through the arena?
My strategy in almost all cases provided sufficient room is to run around in circles, so yeah. One of the best strategies I think for designing against this is to create oblong shaped arenas or put imortant items in the center, since enemies tend to group there. Not that infighting isn't fun on its own.
>For fucking with you a little bit :^) Same reason the first rooms use startan and the standard floor/ceiling.
I've played a lot of shit maps before so I'm now incapable of identifying ironic startan.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 15:25:08 2021 No.7983997 File: 1.45 MB, 1920x1080, q2_0006.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7983982 IT IS SUPPOSED TO HAVE MUSIC But Steam is uber retarded along with the rtx port altogether

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 15:26:40 2021 No.7984000 >>7983982 >I'm already not a fan of Quake II. I would too if I picked Quake 2 RTX for my first (and probably only) playthrough, but I don't hate myself THAT much... Surprisingly enough.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 15:28:40 2021 No.7984010 >>7983997 >>7984000 I have to get some use out of my 3080 Now that I have downloaded the music, I'm in no mood to try it again for now.

Anonymous Tue Jul 27 15:29:05 2021 No.7984014

>>7983992
>My strategy in almost all cases provided sufficient room is to run around in circles
True, I think you're not alone with that.

>I've played a lot of shit maps before so I'm now incapable of identifying ironic startan.
You know, the basic idea I had when I started this map was "what if myfirstmap.wad, but in less shitty", so you get a myfirstroom with a myfirstweaponplacement and all the sheband and then you even get a big arena with a cyberdemon.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 15:33:42 2021 No.7984025 >>7983985 it's just the demo release that was sent out to test various hardware, the first 3 quakes all have some

Anonymous Tue Jul 27 15:35:27 2021 No.7984031

>>7984010
I would really spare myself if I were you as RTX port is just bad. You would be better off picking up AMID EVIL or any other game that's more appropriate for RTX... I guess? Honestly, I don't really care all that much about this thing or Quake 2, for that matter. Tried to back to it a few months ago and was "done" after going through Outer Base. The game isn't really that terrible and overall I enjoyed it during my first playthrough, but later on and at that particular time it just felt like such a slog.

Anonymous Tue Jul 27 15:36:00 2021 No.7984034

>>7983974
Along with Eviternity, Ancient Aliens, Valiant and Back To Saturn X (both parts) are regarded as one of best wads of last decade. You should also check out Preacher, Avactor, Dimension Of Boomed, Going Down, TNT Revilution, UAC Ultra and Doom Zero. All of them are some of the best wads made. When you are ready for more challenging stuff, try anything that Ribbiks has made. Start with Sunlust, it's his most accessible wad.

>>7983983
We are all proud of those, but it's not like these are even close Eviternity quality-vice.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 15:36:33 2021 No.7984037 >>7983974 Scythe 2 and Refracted Reality

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 15:37:31 2021 No.7984041 >>7984031 >and was "done" after going through Outer Base. Is that because of the channge in atmosphere?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 15:37:56 2021 No.7984043 >>7983974 Have you already played No Rest For The Living and Sigil?

Anonymous Tue Jul 27 15:46:58 2021 No.7984070
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>>7984041
He's just a jaded tourist
Q2 is fine, but ignore RTX and play on Yamagi or KMQ2 on Nightmare
Main game then Mission packs, the later will make you hate nightmare difficulty more than Plutonia on UV

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 16:24:54 2021 No.7984137 >>7984070 I'm playing through Q2 right now and hearing the captured marines(?) say "kill me" is still unnerving.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 16:26:12 2021 No.7984138 >>7984137 >unnerving more like annoying as fuck. the PS1 version was almost unbearable in that segment.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 16:28:00 2021 No.7984141 >>7984137 I dont get how anybody can take that god awful voice acting constantly looping seriously.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 16:30:42 2021 No.7984146 >>7984137 are you kidding, hearing some random dev say "let me out" with a poor Arnie impression is hilarious

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 16:34:16 2021 No.7984158 >>7984137 Nah its good to hear timmy let me out, all because we can kill him. also all Q2 male voices are modulated versions of trent's voice with female made by some random

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 16:40:09 2021 No.7984173 File: 149 KB, 1444x1294, E7U7ZgRVoAAmMB-.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7981943

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 16:42:41 2021 No.7984176 >>7984173 Where's the other hand from?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 16:58:20 2021 No.7984212 Is there a way to change the aspect ratio in Quake 2? I can't stand those black bars on the sides of the screen. Tried Quake2xp but it just crashes when trying to play.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 17:02:11 2021 No.7984218 >>7984212 YAMAGIQ2 or Kmq2

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 17:02:25 2021 No.7984219 >>7984212 -width X -height Y ?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 17:04:58 2021 No.7984227 >>7984176 E3M2

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 17:07:38 2021 No.7984234 >>7984227 He means the right one, he knows where the left one is from.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 17:24:50 2021 No.7984278 whats a good wad to play? one thats not the usual recommended. Like not BTSX or ancient aliens or DTWID you know something different. and not to cheesy like oppp my wad is 32 levels of revenant spam lmao with just a shotgun.

Anonymous Tue Jul 27 17:25:27 2021 No.7984279

>>7984034
What a list - I'll have to go through those slowly or I'll be overwhelmed almost certain - would *you* be comfortable picking out two that *you* feel are above the others?

>>7984037
Excellent - thank you - I will take these down and look in a moment.

>>7984043
I have not - I will take this as your recommendation, thank you.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 17:27:13 2021 No.7984281 >>7984043 where can one download sigil?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 17:28:56 2021 No.7984290 >>7984278 HFFM

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 17:29:27 2021 No.7984292 >>7984290 where can i get that? moddb?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 17:30:33 2021 No.7984295 >>7984292 see >>7982936

Anonymous Tue Jul 27 17:32:16 2021 No.7984298

>>7984295
cool cool thanks bros. i've never made a doom level before but i think revenant spammer levels really don't know how to make a hard level.

so its just lets throw 30 dudes in every room that are revenants and really don't know how to use dooms other enemies to make a hard level, so they gotta make every encounter 50 revenants annoying

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 17:32:16 2021 No.7984301 >>7984278 Going Down

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 17:32:24 2021 No.7984303 >>7984295 >linking him the cut version >>7984292 look in the first post under current releases

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 17:37:30 2021 No.7984312 >>7984303 got both versions cool >>7984301 got it cool

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 17:38:13 2021 No.7984313 >>7984298 Revenants are just the most fun Doom enemy to fight.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 17:39:18 2021 No.7984315 >>7984278 unalign.wad

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 17:39:31 2021 No.7984316 >>7984313 This is correct.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 17:46:24 2021 No.7984336 >>7983820 >instead of bodyblocking with the same last stand animations every time Might be my least favorite thing about Q2.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 17:48:06 2021 No.7984341 >>7984336 Even lower than the weapon switching?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 17:50:03 2021 No.7984351 >>7984341 Yeah, probably.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 17:50:23 2021 No.7984353 >re-release adds sunglasses and head icon Cringe https://youtube.com/watch?v=GB4MG_Wy1bA Does the Zoom version have the same shit?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 17:52:54 2021 No.7984362 >>7984316 cool a doom 1 level pack thats dope

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 17:57:50 2021 No.7984369 >>7984353 Head icon yes Sunglasses no

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 17:59:53 2021 No.7984374 >>7984353 It's my way or... Hell, it's your way!

Anonymous Tue Jul 27 18:01:27 2021 No.7984376
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>>7984353
That is a old ass mod they added into it, you can grab it at eduke forums.
Plus they did that because the first scene in DN3d its Douk with the sunglasses, mainly Douk64 intro

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 18:03:28 2021 No.7984383 >>7984278 Osiris

Anonymous Tue Jul 27 18:06:12 2021 No.7984386
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>>7981945
Alright, final update of Hard Fast Faggot Maps. Unless someone forgot to include something critical, this should be the final version (at least for now, depending on if we'll do whatever hypothetical continuation as a separate thing or just building onto it). Has the updated Full Thrust.
I did a new pistol sound because anon complained, hopefully this sounds better. I also did a new plasma sound, which hopefully is less harsh on the ears.

https://files.catbox.moe/zl4hdw.zip
>HFFM Uncut Version, 1.8
Uncensored.

https://files.catbox.moe/kwxfuk.zip
>HFFM Cut Version, 1.8
Mildly censored.

https://files.catbox.moe/xzg62c.zip
>HFFM Stripped Version, 1.8
All the new sounds and sprites stripped out, for gameplay mods, or people who are boring.

https://files.catbox.moe/8nbg92.zip
>HFFM Party Pack, Version 1.8
Just the sprites and sounds. Contains truecolor .pngs, the idea is that you run these with some GzDoom mod like Hideous Destructor (there's a patch to fill in the few missing sprites).

I'll be arranging to update the version on iDGames.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 18:06:33 2021 No.7984387 >>7984353 https://rigelengine.nikolai-wuttke.de/

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 18:06:53 2021 No.7984389 >>7983837 It doesn't look much different.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 18:07:04 2021 No.7984390 >>7984386 I'm proud of you boys. Your hard work's paid off.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 18:17:31 2021 No.7984406 >>7984386 woot, great job anon!

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 18:41:53 2021 No.7984467 >>7984386 Did that first map ever get its Revenant spawns fixed?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 18:42:08 2021 No.7984468 >>7983458 >gzdoom port thanks

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 18:44:40 2021 No.7984474 >>7983591 >it sound like he's almost homeless according to him, yes, that's his situation, he is brazilian and had no better idea than to sue his water provider

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 18:50:14 2021 No.7984485 >>7983636 >...why the hell I'm not working on anything? you need to be in a "I'm going to fucking lost my home and family" situation

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 18:52:33 2021 No.7984491 >>7983618 >getting jewed out by a water company Was it fuckin Nestle or something?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 18:55:53 2021 No.7984497 >>7983997 >Earth2 Stay out of the deep water!

>>	randomQuake2fag Tue Jul 27 19:04:21 2021 No.7984524 >>7984336 I personaly love this tho, and discovering the Mission64 mod expanding this idea to other non-cannon-folder monsters actually made me grin like Doomguy when he finds a new gun...

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 19:06:35 2021 No.7984534 >>7984353 It looks like an NES emulator with a shitty upscale filter enabled :^(

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 19:07:37 2021 No.7984535 >>7984336 I hate it on half life.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 19:20:17 2021 No.7984592 gotta say bros, playing HFFM and these new noises and designs are annoying as shit.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 19:23:36 2021 No.7984605 >>7984592 I liked the sounds better when there were only a few of them and they were barely noticeable. The new monster sprites are the best part though, don't see why you would have any problem with those. Pickup sprites are shit.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 19:23:54 2021 No.7984607 >>7984278 I haven't seen anyone ever recommend Mayan Mishap. It's like Skillsaw wad, even though it doesn't have Skillsaw.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 19:27:58 2021 No.7984618 >>7984607 i'll check em out for sure >>7984383 >>7984592 the designs are actually cool let me back track a little idk the noises are annoying.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 19:57:23 2021 No.7984689 >>7984467 Yes, a long while ago.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 19:58:52 2021 No.7984695 File: 1.28 MB, 1275x916, 1496768643660.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7984173 Makes me think of Pacha from Emperors New Groove NGL.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 20:03:38 2021 No.7984704 >>7984592 >>7984618 I guess open the .wad in Slade and remove the ones you don't like.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 20:23:43 2021 No.7984763 File: 381 KB, 1440x1080, Screenshot_Doom_20210728_012216.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] What is going on here? Looks fine in the editor, the grate texture stops at the water level, but in game I get this. Not sure what I fucked up.

Anonymous Tue Jul 27 20:26:52 2021 No.7984769

>>7984763
This is a product of software renderers
generally mid textures that clip will be seen in software as sprites and mids sink into the floor
I'm sure someone smarter can explain it better but in short don't use mids that can clip in anything that can have software rendering applied as it will appear as such.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 20:27:22 2021 No.7984773 >>7984386 I liked the old pistol sound better. Otherwise nice.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 20:28:05 2021 No.7984776 >>7984763 >>7984769 Change the light level by 1 on one side of the grate to split the visplane and fix it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 20:29:56 2021 No.7984778 >>7984769 >>7984776 oh damn, for as old as I am I feel stupid I never knew that

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 20:48:27 2021 No.7984816 >>7983458 >seems funny >stupid exit >trying another bad version >crosshair rumble

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 20:57:45 2021 No.7984841 >>7984776 Nice, thanks anon. I had worked around it by making a slight height change to force a bottom texture to be drawn but this is much more elegant.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 20:59:31 2021 No.7984846 File: 395 KB, 1024x768, Screenshot_Doom_20210728_024942.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Tried HighwayAcceleroidBooster, really fun. Tried Russian Overkill, really fun but doesn't work on GZDoom. What are some others funky but fun wads?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 21:02:07 2021 No.7984852 >>7984846 you should give combined arms and gmota a try, also check out dakka.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 21:03:20 2021 No.7984856 >>7984846 BURL TUMD

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 21:03:36 2021 No.7984857 >>7984852 >dakka I'll be disappointed if they're not orkz weapons. >>7984856 ?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 21:05:18 2021 No.7984862 >>7984857 https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=35458 It's vintage but it holds up

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 21:08:07 2021 No.7984872 >>7984862 so ancient none of the links work

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 21:12:27 2021 No.7984889 >try gmota >no idea what's going on ...okay.

>>	ViolentRumbleAnon !8KaxJ9XaEs Tue Jul 27 21:12:31 2021 No.7984890 >>7984816 >crosshair rumble Oh good, the word cloud is making fun of my shitty modifier names...

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 21:28:24 2021 No.7984924 >>7984872 Try this one. https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=64793

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 21:41:50 2021 No.7984961 >>7981959 Can it run big maps like AD ones?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 21:43:57 2021 No.7984972 >>7984889 Go Medieval On Their Ass. Several characters and all enemies with a medieval sci-fi mix. It's fun as fuck dude.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 21:44:48 2021 No.7984975 >>7984972 My dick's gonna heat up and melt

Anonymous Tue Jul 27 21:48:03 2021 No.7984982
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>>7984889
You play either as a manlet knight, his depressed robot friend, or Doomguy with a big sword and you fuck up demons.
Also a Kobold will be joining the fight soon.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 21:50:02 2021 No.7984987 >>7984846 Have you tried Spaghetti Weapons wad? It's a crazy mod in my opinion.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 21:55:25 2021 No.7985001 File: 264 KB, 1000x1000, 1626193025889.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7984982 >Kobold will be joining the fight soon. more liek neber

Anonymous Tue Jul 27 21:57:14 2021 No.7985004

>>7985001
Are you the same smartass who was saying the last major update would never come out, or that Combined_Arms 2.0 would never come out? Cus all you're succeeding in doing is aggravating me and it'll just make these updates all the more satisfying for myself.

Anonymous Tue Jul 27 22:03:02 2021 No.7985021

>>7985004
oh its you, y'know with Kustam i thought it was made by who couldn't pull off the "methodical approach to combat" thing but when I played the link set i realized it wasn't that he didn't have the skills to do it was the fact he didn't want to try.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 22:05:12 2021 No.7985027 >>7984315 I'll play that if the textures get aligned.

Anonymous Tue Jul 27 22:08:28 2021 No.7985030

>>7985021
My head was up my ass when I first started on Kustam. At this point I've fixed all of his issues. All that's left is to add the flamer upgrade, and swap the place of the staff upgrade so it's a rocket launcher tier thing instead of a plasma gun. It'll work out better.
Really I think Kustam's biggest flaw was how the medi-tool just passively recharged, which fucked with almost every other gameplay element of his. Tying that to having to actively participate in combat was the way to go. Before I didn't wanna do the whole "hit enemy in melee = resource" because I was worried that was too much like Blaz's system. But it sure feels different with how I got it set up.

TL;DR I owned up to my dumbass mistakes and I've fixed them. Kustam's medi-tool recharges from fighting rather than passively.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 22:11:13 2021 No.7985038 >>7984535 Half Life's death animations are fast enough that I never really notice it though. I could see if you were trying to blast through the map, but I never end up doing that. >>7984524 Well I can't take that away from you.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 22:12:14 2021 No.7985039 >>7984704 i just downloaded the vanilla one up there for weapons packs and shit >tfw vr makes a custom wad and you use the one they didn't wanna make or use anyways lmao sorry bros

Anonymous Tue Jul 27 22:19:33 2021 No.7985052

>>7985030
>I've fixed them
cool, the problem with Kustam for me at least was the fact that he was a a striped down version of Blaz. there was no point where I was like "I have to think if I was to fight effectively" and he doesn't have any of the quirks that make Blaz fun to play as. Really the link set does the methodical combat so much better it ain't even funny.

Anonymous Tue Jul 27 22:27:50 2021 No.7985068
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>>7985052
Well now it works like this:
>hit dudes with staff, heat builds up
>heat drains slowly
>heat recharges 3 things (Medi-tool, stun shot, staff shockwave)
>more things being recharged, heat drains faster
>because heat's draining faster, you can fight more with the staff
>can actively use heat with the staff shockwave once you get it
>when overheated, shit recharges even faster
>always have flamers so you can drain it out faster and stay on the offense
>flamers fire slower, so it's not infinite stunlocking

So like everything is tied to the heat gauge now, also you only build heat when you hit shit, so you can't just swing at the air for free heat. This does mean if you're fighting purely with the hand cannon, you won't be able to charge your shit, so you gotta fight in melee.

Anonymous Tue Jul 27 22:35:38 2021 No.7985081
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Somewhat Possible is wonderful, the music choice in particular is excellent. Also some of the Cyberdemon encounters in HFFM are obnoxiously hard with how much faster and dangerous I've made them, but I guess that evens out with all the cheap tricks you can pull. For instance, hiding like a pussy in this cubby while the Cyberdemon stomps all the other monsters, then bouncing out hand grenades at him until he finally bites it.

>>7985039
I've used it myself for testing my own mod. I've already played through Uncut once, but I don't mind coming back because the maps are legit REALLY fun.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 22:36:58 2021 No.7985085 >>7984982 >kobold Canine or reptilian?

Anonymous Tue Jul 27 22:37:05 2021 No.7985086

I unironically like how the weapons feel in chex quest.
I sort of felt like the remote devices have a point between the prongs (obviously because that's where you're aiming) where the energy collected and zapped them.
It just feels very satisfying, especially the shotgun one. And you reload a whole battery each use. Feels like you're giving them a hell of a zap. And their bodies light up when you zap them. Just good game feel.
Too bad they're all neutered and can't hurt you. I guess keyboard only controls are what killed me as a kid. And probably not knowing there's a run button.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 22:38:34 2021 No.7985089 File: 593 KB, 933x711, blaz_and_bold_shake_2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7985085 Reptilian. But not that weird current trend of Kobolds that people draw, you know the kind. Samson's going to be a narrow little shit.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 22:39:03 2021 No.7985090 >>7985068 Oh yeah that looks to be a lot better then before. Ebb and flow is so important in making engaging gameplay.

Anonymous Tue Jul 27 22:40:59 2021 No.7985094

>>7984592
The new sounds are horrendous, can we please remove them? They bring the quality of the wad down to legitimate shitpost tier. I say this as a mapper for the project, I really don't like that the new lead took it upon himself to add these obnoxious noises

Anonymous Tue Jul 27 22:41:46 2021 No.7985095

>>7985090
Yes it is. I fucked up and I'll own up to that. Really I was stupid to think hitting enemies = meter gain in some way means it'll be exactly the same as Blaz's. So the foundation was fucked.
Also Samson's meter gain tool is gonna be a magic gun thing that works like the Nemesis from Cave Story, so at low charge it has good range, and as you shoot dudes, the meter builds up the range gets worse, forcing you to get closer if you want more meter. Then you cash in the meter for goodies.

Okay I'm done talking about GMOTA shit for now. I always feel bad when I start filling the goddamn thread with this stuff.

Anonymous Tue Jul 27 22:44:51 2021 No.7985104

>>7985081
>Somewhat Possible is wonderful, the music choice in particular is excellent
Thanks, it's one of my favorite maps I've made.
>some of the Cyberdemon encounters in HFFM are obnoxiously hard with how much faster and dangerous I've made them
... What? There were changes made to the cyberdemon's behavior?

Anonymous Tue Jul 27 22:53:06 2021 No.7985112

>>7983974
I'll always recommend Scythe 1 as babby's first pwad. It starts off easy but don't let the first maps fool you. Also they are great maps to practice playing with -fast monsters since they are easy enough
>>7984279
>overwhelmed
Don't download a ton of shit all at once. You end up just changing pwad's every time you get frustrated instead of finishing the wad. Also I'm not him but aside from Scythe 1, try something short, like Lunatic (5 maps) or Preacher (9)

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 23:02:33 2021 No.7985131 >>7985089 >You know the kind I don't, but do I want to? also are we shitwadding

Anonymous Tue Jul 27 23:04:46 2021 No.7985136

>>7985104
In my own gameplay mod I'm working on, I mean.

I find .wads like HFFM is a great testing ground because it gives me an idea how the player can take on various difficult scenarios, as well as which parts of the gameplay needs to be made harder, and where the player needs a change in their toolset to realistically handle certain situations.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 23:21:24 2021 No.7985168 >>7985112 >>7983974 Sorry - you must have missed my first post where I said that I'm tackling Eviternity - that is my first thing played other than Vanilla

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 23:22:39 2021 No.7985170 >>7985168 Holy shit nvm I'm exhausted.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 23:28:59 2021 No.7985185 >>7985131 i think he means when people draw them with big fucking asses

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 27 23:38:59 2021 No.7985210 File: 4 KB, 226x204, 1616742199733.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7985185 T-thanks.

ViolentRumbleAnon !8KaxJ9XaEs Tue Jul 27 23:53:16 2021 No.7985232
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For those of you having a precache issue with Violent Rumble, there's a new progs.dat on the Mega that should fix it. I'll forgo the usual patch notes for now since I'm still working on the Mjolnir texture and a weapon-related addition that was requested a while ago...

Anonymous Tue Jul 27 23:58:58 2021 No.7985241

why doesn't anybody ever use the wolfenstein dudes from doom 2 in their wads. They're more dangerous than normal doom zombies and could potentially be used for some decent traps you know?
i know some wads reskin them into new enemies and stuff but still

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 28 00:03:57 2021 No.7985247 >>7985241 This post made me want to see either genetically mutated versions of the Wolfenstein Dudes, or Red Army soldiers in a Playable WAD.

Anonymous Wed Jul 28 00:06:46 2021 No.7985251

>>7985241
I think because they tend to clash visually and thematically with the rest of the game. They do make a good midway between the zombieman and chaingunner though, and some .wads have used them as a common monster that way, the really good ones usually reskinning them so they fit better with Doom's normal monsters.

You also have guys like LunchLunch who always hides one in a secret area somewhere.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 28 00:16:56 2021 No.7985268 >>7985251 ahh thats so dope. i was just thinking of doom zero where they're turned into the lost souls almost and shoot the caco ball. what are some that use the wolfenstein guys? >>7985247 that would be pretty cool desu

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 28 00:27:59 2021 No.7985275 >>7985232 Based VRanon. Still plugging away at my map! I hope everyone will like it.

Anonymous Wed Jul 28 00:29:42 2021 No.7985280

>>7984041
Not really. It's more of a overall feel, I guess. Like, "Yeah I don't wanna play it now". Again, I'm not saying it's bad because it's not. Maybe it's boredom, I don't know. While I definitely prefer original Quake as a whole, there're at least some good bits in Quake 2: prisoners, grinder, fallen enemies trying to attack you on their last breath and their "damaged" skins... Soundtrack is good. Gameplay is alright, but recoil on machine gun is annoying.
>>7984070
>He's just a jaded tourist
While not a tourist, I guess it's right to say that I'm quiet jaded as I've played A LOT of FPS lately. Perhaps too much and had an effect on me during my Quake 2 playthrough and recent attempt to give it another goal in order to test how Clovr server for the game worked + give actual chance to mission packs instead of doing a marathon on low difficulty because I just to be done with it.
However, I didn't had the same problem with first Quake, both Hexen games, Ion Fury, Heretic and DOOM titles.
>>7984485
>"I'm going to fucking lost my home and family"
It's kind of close as we have a huge debt for our apartment and recent sit without electricity for 11 days because haven't paid for that either. So now they'll turn it off even if we don't pay 10 rubles and we need to start paying some amount of money in order to be left alone.
Which means I surely have some fucking issues, especially if you look at the whole picture. But this is thread about retro FPS, not my personal blog (I have one, but even then talking about this stuff feels wrong and cringe, which is something I'm trying to overcome as it just doesn't good for me).
I just need to convince myself (like with blog) that nobody carrying about it shouldn't matter: just do it because it's fun.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 28 01:08:53 2021 No.7985345 File: 21 KB, 348x333, Geroxe bibox malax.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7985268 dbp20 reskins them into blood cultists

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 28 01:14:37 2021 No.7985353 >>7985241 They're basically just weaker chaingunners. Most maps that do mix them with regular zombies tend to be low quality, slige/oblige generations, or have very specific setups where their use would actually make sense.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 28 01:20:01 2021 No.7985362 How the fuck do you beat the final boss in wolfenstein 3d? By the time you even get to him, you run out of ammo. I had to do the dirty and enable cheating to give myself ammo again, and it sucked.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 28 01:26:21 2021 No.7985373 >>7985362 there's a bunch of secret ammo caches, one at the beginning, and one in each side hallway leading to the boss i think there's a cache somewhere in the boss room too

Anonymous Wed Jul 28 01:48:10 2021 No.7985414

To all you brave modders out there all I gotta say is after having played Chex Quest through and through and started doom and I'm on E1M3.
Level design is everything (no kidding).
Toxin Refinery is so intimate. Chex quest may have some square or octogonal hubs that branch out but there's no elevation or scenery change.
Areas where you can shoot some guys in other rooms that you can't even get to yet. A secret path dumping you off in a familiar spot after about 3 rooms that raise and lower.
Damn Doom is good.
So if you're wondering how your progress is going. Look at Chex maps then look at doom maps and see where you are.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 28 02:04:07 2021 No.7985439 >>7984278 Dark Covenant

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 28 03:48:20 2021 No.7985562 >>7985241 They were meant as easter egg enemies, and nothing more. It's why Doom 2 only used them in the secrets levels.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 28 04:02:04 2021 No.7985587 >>7984972 >>7984982 Aight, I'll get it, then. >>7984987 Not yet.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 28 04:08:58 2021 No.7985595 Vranon I can't alter the statusbar alpha with this latest update.

>>	ViolentRumbleAnon !8KaxJ9XaEs Wed Jul 28 04:14:04 2021 No.7985601 >>7985595 In what way? Via a console command?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 28 04:16:45 2021 No.7985604 >>7985601 Aye

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 28 04:25:53 2021 No.7985614 >>7985038 If they did so with most Q2 enemies like what that mod done - I honestly think that Quake2 would be still talked about, since I dont really know any other FPS with a 'last breath potshot' mechanic besides Q2

>>	ViolentRumbleAnon !8KaxJ9XaEs Wed Jul 28 04:35:40 2021 No.7985618 >>7985604 There's a line in the quake.rc file that says to uncomment to disable CSQC. Do that and see if it works. If so, it's a CSQC issue that the other anon will hopefully know a fix for.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 28 04:44:07 2021 No.7985623 >>7985618 Hey that worked. Rad.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 28 05:16:56 2021 No.7985659 File: 3.34 MB, 2560x1440, screen 1.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I'm trying to make a map that looks as close to doom 3 as I can make it. How do you guys think I did?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 28 05:28:21 2021 No.7985672 >>7985659 D3 only had tiles in bathrooms and the lighting wasn't nearly as soft (due to tech limitations). and the corridor width is more Shock 2 than Doom 3 looks cool tho

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 28 07:52:25 2021 No.7985834 >>7984889 gmota is really confusing if you start it on a map you never played before since you don't know what the news enemies and items are suppose to be replacing. I recommend playing on normal Doom 2 maps until you know what is what.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 28 07:59:22 2021 No.7985846 >>7985834 I did that. Still barely understand anything. Apparently you mostly fight in melee, and weapons are replaced by skills.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 28 08:50:56 2021 No.7985929 >>7985659 Have clearly visible seems on the character's foreheads.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 28 09:00:37 2021 No.7985940 >>7985659 Wow those walls must have taken a lot of time, I like it anon.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 28 09:03:14 2021 No.7985943 >>7983982 >>7983997 id didn't wanna pay NIN or Sonic Mayhem royalties so you gotta had the music to the folder.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 28 09:36:14 2021 No.7985985 >>7985943 Which Sacha and Trent doesn't care.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 28 10:47:01 2021 No.7986117 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2Hx8RGxiPI Just guide 70000 Revenant missiles into a horde of Cyberdemons.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 28 11:11:22 2021 No.7986157 >>7986117 >actually real uv-max Based, non-TAS version when?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 28 11:37:45 2021 No.7986210 File: 16 KB, 224x256, supercontrabillmutter.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7985659 Wat gaym iz dees Anon?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 28 12:00:03 2021 No.7986254 >>7983767 Yeah, it is. I asked for some recommendations to pair with gmota. This is what I was told. I'm using a ds4 controller.

Anonymous Wed Jul 28 12:13:12 2021 No.7986290

>>7985929
What always bothers me about seeing that is it's an easy fix. You can paint it out on the map in Photoshop in like 3 minutes. They just baked the normals/bumps and didn't touch them after that for fear of messing them up or assuming they couldn't do anything.

Anonymous Wed Jul 28 12:17:42 2021 No.7986305

Any quick recommendations on maps that would work with hideous destructor for squad play for newbie/veterans. Maybe something urban and less slaughtery? We already tried HoESP/EDay but are experiencing issues so we think another map might help? Who knows.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 28 12:29:07 2021 No.7986335 >>7986305 kuchitsu

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 28 12:31:34 2021 No.7986348 >>7986335 Hmm looks like it could work. Will try thanks.

Anonymous Wed Jul 28 12:36:05 2021 No.7986354

>>7983391
I'm trying to make it feel as stand-alone as I can. So custom cheats and such.
Only real issue I've run into is I need to have a separate pk3 file for some GZDoom related things, since they'll interfere with other ports. Widescreen assets for instance can be defined in various lumps EXCEPT the PFUB graphics, since doomnity set the standard of "just replace them lol".
I have the widescreen PFUB lumps in the base wad file, just so they're there, but they won't be accessed since they'll cause graphical misalignments in vanilla - which I'm still shooting for...
Anyway. That's more of an update I guess.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 28 12:45:18 2021 No.7986372 How do you guys feel about Sandy Peterson's map designs? Romero's? American McGee's?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 28 12:47:09 2021 No.7986380 >>7982350 >Also, UT '99 was better in every way. Q3 was a lot prettier.

Anonymous Wed Jul 28 12:52:22 2021 No.7986398

>>7986354
>I'm trying to make it feel as stand-alone as I can. So custom cheats and such.
That's cool. I figured that you've just been very busy and I hope that you'll sort out this issue with PFUB graphics. Can't help with that as I don't know a thing about DOOM modding.
Speaking of which. It's been a long time (in huge part due to IRL stuff that cut me from the Internet), so I wonder: how is Clovr? I suppose there wasn't done much (or anything at all), so it's more of "Did anyone come to play there in last ~3 weeks?"

Anonymous Wed Jul 28 13:24:43 2021 No.7986443

Tonight I had a fever. I was dreaming that I was setting single linedefs for my map, one at a time, but they were never right. I tried rotating them, trying to make everything fit, but nothing worked. In addition to that I was either sweating like a fat indian or shaking from cold.
And today while continuing to work on my map, I noticed that I got anxiety because of the linedefs.
Being sick really isn't fun if you're not in school anymore.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 28 13:29:40 2021 No.7986447 >>7983732 Try Bourgeois Megawad then.

Anonymous Wed Jul 28 14:25:43 2021 No.7986548

>>7986398
Clovr is up and running. Not many people hop on, but I haven't really promoted it at all. I guess it's more of a "in case anyone wants to" type thing. Next time I feel like playing coop something (I think it's unreal tonight) I'll shill it here.
Doom 3 would be fun imo.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 28 14:43:52 2021 No.7986585 >>7982936 WE DID IT! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tq-Bp_2FOGA

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 28 14:54:45 2021 No.7986616 File: 5 KB, 93x121, adventure ho.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7986548 >Clovr's running push Why aren't we playing this shit right now?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 28 14:58:33 2021 No.7986624 All right, let's go. Playthrough video of map01 of HFFM is up - Ruinous Hole. Version 1.7, everything else will be 1.8. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DpB2Z3fGC1g

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 28 15:01:35 2021 No.7986629 >>7986624 >need to use credit card to watch video FUCK

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 28 15:04:36 2021 No.7986636 >>7985614 Add in the lens-flare effects from PSX port and you would might end up with a game that actually had a chance against HL1 and Unreal instead of instantly getting BTFO by both of them when they got released less than a year later...

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 28 15:08:28 2021 No.7986642 >>7986624 >18+ restricted for no real reason >disabled for external viewing >give us your CreditCard / personalID information to watch this non-pornographic meme vid Goyim How can one get rid of this literal cancer?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 28 15:09:28 2021 No.7986646 File: 71 KB, 600x600, image.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] The sky moves weird when I move the camera, I'm using Prboom+ 2.6. Is there a way to fix this?

Anonymous Wed Jul 28 15:10:04 2021 No.7986647

>>7986636
Unreal clearly had the edge over literally everything back then in terms of grafx, but Quake 2 was far more talked about as an actual game, and that's still the case today as well. A year gap was also a LOT more significant back then compared to today.

Anonymous Wed Jul 28 15:19:30 2021 No.7986659

Beat Quake 2 and it was a fun campaign all around, the weapons feel way better then Quake 1's, that being said the level design was a step down but not the massive one people make it out to be and the game probably would have been better off without the backtracking parts, just end the level and teleport me back.

There was a surprising amount of enemy types but they never really take advantage of them until the last level which was the best level overall. Makron's Palace is just great with the best art design and layout of the entire game so like other id games the end level is strong and the last boss is just kinda there, onto the mission packs.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 28 15:25:26 2021 No.7986676 >>7986548 Cool. I hope more people will jump in as time goes on. >>7986616 >Why aren't we playing this shit right now? Go for it! http://clovr.xyz/

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 28 15:25:40 2021 No.7986678 >>7986616 I can't really play during the day, but maybe tonight if anyone is up for it. There's actually a few games coming up I've never beaten or played much of. EF2, Heretic 2, Deus Ex... I'm more into coop generally.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 28 15:29:48 2021 No.7986682 >>7986676 There also a discord because that's the hip thing. In case anyone wants voice chat or whatever the heck.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 28 15:41:19 2021 No.7986709 >>7986682 Yeah, I've seen that. Was (and still is) kind of hesitant about it for some reason. Which is odd as I use Discord regularly, but I guess I'm just more used to talking here instead. Who the hell know how my mind works, I have issues.

Anonymous Wed Jul 28 15:43:41 2021 No.7986714

>>7986659
>and the game probably would have been better off without the backtracking parts
I wouldn't have minded the backtracking if there were actual enemies to fight when you're backtracking. Quake 2 is just too easy, even on the highest difficulty. Only at the Palace unit is when the Strogg actually tries to put up a fight.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 28 15:47:13 2021 No.7986720 >>7986157 It took him 5 hours with TAS, cut down to 30 minutes because who the fuck wants to watch that manual labor, you want to see this shit done legit and in real time?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 28 15:52:19 2021 No.7986729 BFG would be better if it only fired the tracers desu

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 28 15:58:56 2021 No.7986738 >>7986443 Fevers are fun, in the mindbending way. >>7986729 I don't agree.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 28 16:08:18 2021 No.7986749 >>7981943 WHEN WILL YOU LEAVE THE CACODEMON HOLES ALONE

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 28 16:55:53 2021 No.7986858 >>7984592 had to use slade3 to remove all the sfx, it's so fucking annoying but the sprites are actually pretty good, except the HUD face that looks like shit imo

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 28 17:23:25 2021 No.7986926 What the fuck is going on with HFFM? New sounds? Why? It was literally perfect. Does anyone have backups?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 28 17:46:02 2021 No.7986972 >>7986926 yeah I'm not that big of a fan of the additional sounds either, it was fine beforehand

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 28 18:07:24 2021 No.7987000 File: 1.39 MB, 1920x1080, Screenshot_Doom_20210519_201612.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Duke Nukem asks; "Why?"

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 28 18:42:17 2021 No.7987051 >>7985038 I dont know anon, they are not that fast, when trying to fight hecu and some soldier dies right in front of a narrow walk, he can fuck your tactics. HL can be a fast brutal game.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 28 18:54:52 2021 No.7987076 https://www.crumpa.com/2021/07/09/early-half-life-prototype-videos-revealed-by-dev/

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 28 19:19:03 2021 No.7987125 Based https://youtube.com/watch?v=IS_ABZQSCDk

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 28 19:31:54 2021 No.7987145 >>7986926 >>7986972 Open it in Slade and remove the ones you don't like?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 28 19:37:43 2021 No.7987154 https://doomer.boards.net/thread/2211/hffm-18-map-megawad nobody else did it so I did

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 28 19:38:52 2021 No.7987159 >>7987145 That's seeing the forest for the trees. It's like one anon said, it begins to look like a silly shitpost and actively takes away from the level design when people have to keep focusing on the sounds. Did you add them? Fuckwit.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 28 19:41:04 2021 No.7987164 >>7987159 The sounds are fine you whiny cunt. >actively takes away from the level design I bet you didn't work on a single level in HFFM you tourist poser.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 28 19:41:38 2021 No.7987165 >>7987164 So you did add them. Fuckwit.

Anonymous Wed Jul 28 19:42:51 2021 No.7987171

i just opened a major arlene stream for the first time in my life

to start, she died repeatedly to a solitary cyber despite having plasma, then she died repeatedly to _three_ solitary revenants.

how do people make maps without every playing the game or having any combat understanding?

it was plain bizarre

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 28 19:43:02 2021 No.7987172 >>7987164 lol >>7985094

Anonymous Wed Jul 28 19:44:08 2021 No.7987173

I keep trying to draw an activation line across multiple sectors in UDB, but no matter how I mess with the merge geometry settings, the line keeps getting split across sectors. I know for a fact that this is something that can be done so what the fuck won't UDB let me do it?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 28 19:44:19 2021 No.7987174 File: 1.14 MB, 1280x532, 1625947779882.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7987171 >

Anonymous Wed Jul 28 19:47:13 2021 No.7987178
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>>7981945
Version 5 of my midi pack is finally here! A little request, is there any way this could be added to the OP? Maybe a link would fit into one of the existing pastebins.
https://www.mediafire.com/file/bcgxwt25qm151xx/midicollectionv5.zip/file
Whole bunch of changes and improvements. The big new addition is mod tracker music, with a new bloated filesize to match. New midis are: Eternal Slumber Party, Doom: Damnation, Simply Phobos, Project Doom, Execution, TNT Midi Pack, Deus Ex, selected tracks by Purple Motion, Akeldama, AeonDM, Unreal, Unreal Tournament, Crusader No Remorse/Regret, NeonDM, Greenwar 2, Exomoon, Moonblood, DBP37, NoYe, Ultimate Doom Midi Pack, Mass Extinction, Mano Laikas, NoSp2, and of course HFFM.
As always, feel free to request additions or suggest corrections/improvements. Just don't expect a new version right away, I prefer to make them substantial.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 28 19:47:22 2021 No.7987180 Bros is it just me or is DTWID the Lost Episodes better than the "main" ones DTWID and D2TWID?

Anonymous Wed Jul 28 19:49:07 2021 No.7987183

>>7986642
I managed to download it with this: https://github.com/yt-dlp/yt-dlp (regular youtube-dl seems to not have fixed age-gated videos at the moment)

Gotta agree most of the newest sounds are a downgrade. At least the pistol/chaingun sound, monster hurt sound, player hurt sound (mostly because it's two sounds even if you get hit only once) and everything that doesn't match the original in loudness need to go.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 28 19:53:29 2021 No.7987192 >>7987171 Watch /our guys/ instead.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 28 19:55:36 2021 No.7987195 >>7987174 lol i didn't realize i clicked for a few seconds, paid attention to gameplay only, and left. >>7987192 i usually watch the people that stream hard maps, like davidassaad and daerik

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 28 19:55:40 2021 No.7987196 >>7986642 the fuck? You dont need to put real info in to make a youtube account. Also cut out the unfunny racism please, it's embarassing

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 28 19:55:48 2021 No.7987198 >>7987171 women can't play doom

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 28 19:58:10 2021 No.7987205 >>7987196 Faggot.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 28 20:01:18 2021 No.7987210 >>7987195 Based

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 28 20:03:49 2021 No.7987214 File: 49 KB, 700x744, img_20191108_135839.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >Hits you for 50 damage within 0.5 seconds of you entering line of sight Heh... Caecux infirmux.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 28 20:17:26 2021 No.7987225 File: 60 KB, 402x500, 1253891320412.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7986624 >This video is age-restricted and only available on YouTube. No thanks anon. Perhaps try a different video service like vimeo or odysee?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 28 20:18:54 2021 No.7987229 >>7987159 I added some of them. >takes away from the level design How? I didn't find them distracting. >>7987165 Unless he's Captain Mozzarella or me, no he didn't. >>7985094 What sounds don't you like specifically? I'll make a version just for you.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 28 20:20:34 2021 No.7987231 >>7986642 That's Google, unfortunately.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 28 20:28:51 2021 No.7987241 >>7986642 >zoomies discovering youtube jesus christ just make a youtube account you fucking dumbass

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 28 20:31:17 2021 No.7987243 >>7987241 N-no, anon should make an all new account just for me!

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 28 20:33:27 2021 No.7987247 >>7987241 Just eat your own shit you fucking dumbass.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 28 20:33:37 2021 No.7987249 >>7987229 Make a version removing all these SFX but keeping the custom sprites.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 28 20:34:12 2021 No.7987252 >>7987195 What about Sunlust + CC?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 28 20:41:40 2021 No.7987265 Play Zandronum: [TSPG] Anonymous Spicy Co-Op Extravaganza

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 28 20:41:51 2021 No.7987267 >>7987249 Even the sounds Mozzarella did? I got the impression that most people liked those.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 28 20:44:04 2021 No.7987273 >>7987247 You're incapable of making a burner account that you can abandon forever afterwards?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 28 20:44:33 2021 No.7987274 >>7987267 I dunno man but I agree that these sounds are annoying...

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 28 20:44:59 2021 No.7987276 >>7987273 No I already have one, I was just mad at that post.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 28 20:46:27 2021 No.7987278 >>7986642 >>7987247 Do you even know you can make a gmail or youtube account without sharing your personal info. or change your username anytime? you mongoloid retard

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 28 20:47:46 2021 No.7987282 >>7987278 Yes dipshit we know, stop simping for google you retarded faggot.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 28 20:48:33 2021 No.7987285 >>7987282 Then what's your big deal?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 28 20:53:22 2021 No.7987292 >>7987282 >m-muh google boogeyman you sound like a spaz /pol/tard schizo, grow the fuck up.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 28 20:54:24 2021 No.7987294 File: 117 KB, 709x558, gachibaka.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] https://files.catbox.moe/m8cisa.zip >HFFM_QUIET_1.8 Uncut, but with the sounds cut out.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 28 21:03:01 2021 No.7987309 >>7987294 Thanks G

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 28 21:05:14 2021 No.7987312 >>7987309 You should really get Slade and learn to do stuff like that on your own, it's super easy, took me like 10 seconds to open the program, load the file, remove the sounds, and save as a new .wad

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 28 21:09:55 2021 No.7987315 File: 2.63 MB, 423x315, Nope.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7987171 >"Playing maps by amazing female Doom modders!" >female Doom modders >BTSX

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 28 21:10:03 2021 No.7987316 >>7987178 >Simply Phobos oh yeh Paul makes og music for nearly all his wads so I'm gonna list em >2002 A DOOM ODYSSEY >DEATH TORMENTION >DEATH TORMENTION 2 >THE TWILIGHT ZONE 2: FINAL DREAMS >PAUL'S DEATHMATCH >ZONE 300 >ZONE 400

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 28 21:15:39 2021 No.7987321 Shitwadding when? Anon... what happened? ANOOOOOOOOOOOOOON

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 28 21:16:40 2021 No.7987326 >>7987321 His consistent bathing in literal shit in wad form caused him to get e. coli and he died. Press F bro.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 28 21:20:15 2021 No.7987331 >>7981943 Is there a pk3 that just contains Heretic's enemies that I can load alongside Doom 2? I just want to be able to use the summon command on, say, D'Sparil, while I'm playing Doom 2. It can be GZDoom, I don't care.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 28 21:58:01 2021 No.7987381 will VR support mark v?

>>	ViolentRumbleAnon !8KaxJ9XaEs Wed Jul 28 22:06:17 2021 No.7987394 >>7987381 It will work on it, yes, but you won't have custom HUD and stuff.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 28 22:22:57 2021 No.7987414 >>7987321 hE'S HEEEERE

Anon plays shitwads !kKIFdpGzRc Wed Jul 28 22:23:00 2021 No.7987415
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>>7987321
>>7987326
Sorry. I was taking an extended break because the last stream really tilted me. It would be a shame to leave HFFM unfinished, so I better pry open my bunghole and let the demons in.
>https://youtu.be/UdHHs2ZPUZI

Get in here nibbas

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 28 22:26:54 2021 No.7987423 File: 40 KB, 600x522, 130.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7987415 Sorry for what, daddy told us not to be ashamed of our dooming skills.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 28 22:29:34 2021 No.7987434 >>7987415 >gzdoom Oh shit nigger what are you doing

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 28 22:51:52 2021 No.7987482 Finally got something bordering on fps cap implemented. There's some rounding errors on the higher end at the moment, but disabling vsync will no longer run Doom at 1000+ fps.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 28 22:52:37 2021 No.7987485 >>7987414 how the fuck

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 28 23:21:09 2021 No.7987551 >>7986659 now try the mission packs on the hardest difficulty aka nightmare. >>7986714 A Q2TWID would be nice using new techniques, if not using the PS1 game a maps too.

Anonymous Wed Jul 28 23:27:05 2021 No.7987570
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>>7981943
Download link for Zach Siegel midis
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/119443-zach-siegel-midi-pack-not-my-midis-i-just-want-to-share-them/
I discovered them from Daerik
https://youtu.be/8R8Woa_Np1g
It sounds way better through your midi player. Contrast, Infinite Sky, and Great Prophecy are some favorites. They're not just good as midis but as actual pieces of music and I unironically listen to them while mapping

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 28 23:28:06 2021 No.7987575 File: 2 KB, 80x42, vr.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7987415

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 28 23:28:51 2021 No.7987579 >>7987575 Coming August 8th

Anonymous Wed Jul 28 23:41:15 2021 No.7987609
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Since nobody liked my pistol sounds, I replaced it with a generic revolver one like you'd hear in a 90's pwad from a bulletin board. That's the only change.

https://files.catbox.moe/jxlka5.zip
>HFFM Uncut Version 1.8b

https://files.catbox.moe/iwp76u.zip
>HFFM Cut Version 1.8b

https://files.catbox.moe/sxb8nr.zip
>HFFM Party Pack Version 1.8b

I'm going to sleep now, I've got kung flu and I'm tired. I'll try to sort out updating the idgames release later.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 28 23:48:35 2021 No.7987624 File: 37 KB, 575x382, Truck-Nuts-575x382.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7987609 Suggestion for any potential versions in the future: replace the Commander Keen sprite with truck nuts.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 28 23:56:13 2021 No.7987638 >>7987609 Thanks for taking the time to sort out the igames stuff anon. Take care of your health. People can whine about the sounds all they want, but they're not pulling their weight.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 28 23:57:16 2021 No.7987641 File: 40 KB, 410x598, Based department.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7987154 HOLY BASED. FINALLY HFFM IS UP SOMEWHERE GODDAMN.

Anonymous Thu Jul 29 00:04:10 2021 No.7987653 [DELETED]

>>7987609
The most insulting thing about the hffm debacle is how stupid you idiots think we are. I was reading your bullshit plans for months, of course I let the other mods know about your silly little plans. You'd be perfectly okay with a gachi homage wad if it wasn't so clearly obvious that was just a thin veil for memeing around the f-word. That's how it started, so that's how it ends, don't bother underestimating everyone else's intelligence.

Also have fun releasing your n-word teasing quake project on black history month, I bet that's going to be a) coincidence, b) perfectly respectable homage to MLKjr as well. Just get rid of the slurs, you fucking morons.
-d

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 29 00:06:03 2021 No.7987659 >>7987653 that's it, call it off, HFFM is an official no-go

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 29 00:07:48 2021 No.7987661 >>7987659 yea. we can't have something this offensive out there. imagine what people will think of us?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 29 00:29:44 2021 No.7987686 File: 17 KB, 498x422, hffm music.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7987178 >>7987609 so, does anyone know what plays on "Fudge Packers"? got the rest of HFFM music credits, other than that

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 29 00:39:23 2021 No.7987705 >>7987686 I think it's from conker's bad fur day

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 29 00:42:12 2021 No.7987714 >>7987686 Wow, I'm scrolling through and get to see a setlist that not only has a Judas Priest song, but THE best Judas Priest song from their best and underappreciated album. Fucking great job.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 29 00:45:04 2021 No.7987723 File: 311 KB, 395x303, stp.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7987705 yep https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uyOA7F9fTx8

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 29 00:46:09 2021 No.7987726 >>7987723 This just made me appreciate fudge packers inc. 1000x more and it was already one of my favorite maps in the set

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 29 00:46:35 2021 No.7987727 >>7987714 >gay frontman >level has 4 cyberdemons looking at you at the start It was too fitting not to.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 29 00:47:55 2021 No.7987730 Has anyone ever made a Quake texture pack for Doom? Medieval/gothic aesthetic is the best aesthetic in retro FPS, discuss.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 29 00:48:34 2021 No.7987731 >>7987727 But out of many, many quality Judas Priest songs, they chose the best one. Some real quality taste there.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 29 00:50:50 2021 No.7987736 >>7987730 Dimension of the Boomed, but it's a mapset and I don't know if it has a full texture conversion

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 29 00:51:47 2021 No.7987737 File: 919 KB, 665x828, file.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7987731 None of their other songs are named after the nu-cyberdemons. I like Overkill's cover more, personally.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 29 00:53:57 2021 No.7987741 >>7987737 Bold statement to make there. I will not respect it, but I accept that you're not just shitposting. Thoughts on the Unleased In The East version?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 29 00:59:47 2021 No.7987748 >>7987741 It's far from bad, but I like the studio version more. The cadence is weird.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 29 01:03:53 2021 No.7987753 >>7987171 Eh, can't blame her, I die tob solitary cybers too. My dodging habits are all fucked.

Anonymous Thu Jul 29 01:06:33 2021 No.7987759

>>7987748
Yeah, i agree. Plus the overdubbing on the chorus is lost, which is a really strong effect. Seeing Halford do the range live is always impressive. I think that album really benefitted from studio work just because its more proggy and has a lot of studio components to its composition.
I the version of Exciter is better than the studio album though. Great stuff. Great live album overall.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 29 01:14:29 2021 No.7987765 >>7987731 Isn't it great? I wish there were more good Judas Priest .midis around, but most I can find are pretty meh, 2048 and HFFM has used most of the good ones already.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 29 01:25:12 2021 No.7987784 >>7987765 Imagine playing your favorite WAD with a midi version of Dreamer Deceiver playing. The harsh juxtaposition of shotgun violence, and melancholy perfection forcing you into a state of perfect virtue.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 29 01:27:42 2021 No.7987791 What's the best Duke in Doom conversion mod and viceversa?

Anon plays shitwads !kKIFdpGzRc Thu Jul 29 01:40:02 2021 No.7987805
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>>7987415
HFFM was fun. I'm also happy that I've almost got the BFG two tap worked out. I should be back to streaming more regularly from here on out. Thanks guys.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 29 01:41:19 2021 No.7987807 >>7987178 What's up with all those formats that aren't midis. Also, did you used properly released TNT Evilution pack?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 29 01:45:30 2021 No.7987814 >>7987570 That is an awesome song. Would probably fit nicely on a heaven-style map like in Eviternity.

Anonymous Thu Jul 29 01:58:34 2021 No.7987829

I just realized I have been using ZDL for the larger part of a decade now, is there a better frontend these days?

also i dont care if you want to try to wank you doomer epeen and tell me how you use dosbox and .bat files or how using custom wads ruins doom or shit like that.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 29 02:00:30 2021 No.7987832 >>7987829 batch files/bash scripts are pretty comfy though anyway have a look at doomrunner

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 29 02:10:35 2021 No.7987839 >>7987829 I use DoomLauncher, it's alright. Though if ZDL works for you, I don't see much reason in switching, I figure it does the same things.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 29 02:17:27 2021 No.7987847 File: 38 KB, 600x404, 1607582335192.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7987814 This is one of my favorites also: https://youtu.be/TurMHGhmAkk?t=172

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 29 02:28:50 2021 No.7987859 >>7987791 I don't think there is many of them. Some dude made one in some old ass emulator called >edge???? That dude GGGManLives has a video about it. https://youtu.be/aqmbgUKltMg

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 29 02:36:11 2021 No.7987868 >>7987609 F

Anonymous Thu Jul 29 02:47:02 2021 No.7987881
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>>7987847
Reminds me of Explosions in the Sky, as well as mid-2000's nu metal and melodic death metal, which makes sense since the midis date from the 2000's
https://youtu.be/JzIK5FaC38w
https://youtu.be/WS_Yaj9CMUM
https://youtu.be/AzFt3WjJDu0?t=154

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 29 02:48:15 2021 No.7987882 Friendly reminder that the only true way to play Doom is pistol starting in ultra-violence every map. I'm tired of seeing retards coming from nu-Doom that play on easy mode (or worse, with Brutal Doom) and miss what made Doom actually good.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 29 02:51:39 2021 No.7987886 File: 9 KB, 200x197, c82.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7987882

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 29 02:54:43 2021 No.7987893 >>7987882 Thanks, gonna check out Doodle Broom.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 29 03:01:12 2021 No.7987903 >>7987882 Remember kids: Ironic shitposting is still shitposting

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 29 03:13:46 2021 No.7987918 I like pistol starting with mods. Especially if the mod has starting weapons that aren't completely fucking awful.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 29 03:23:33 2021 No.7987938 >>7987918 That's one of those reasons I think pistol starting should be a toggle on any sourceport's difficulty level screen.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 29 03:28:17 2021 No.7987947 >>7987882 reminder that you only truly beaten the level only if you found the level author IRL and beat him over the head with original hardware

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 29 03:28:54 2021 No.7987949 >>7987947 slap em in the face with a 486 pc tower

Anonymous Thu Jul 29 03:50:15 2021 No.7987987

>>7985672
Thanks for the feedback, I took the tile thing from a doom 3 mod called Phobos but yeah I can see how a space station isn't exactly the kind of place to have tiles everywhere.
>>7985940
Thanks, it took a while but its always fun making maps.
>>7986210
Its a doom map I'm working on that uses some of the engine changes from gzdoom.

Either way if you guys are interested I uploaded the intro level which is supposed to lead into this level here. Let me know what you think.
https://youtu.be/ti4mogCiAL8

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 29 04:03:42 2021 No.7988002 So, this Violent Rumble thing is another community quake map pack like HUH? If so, I made a couple maps for HUH and I've kinda been itching to make some more.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 29 04:14:47 2021 No.7988013 >>7988002 Yes. If you wanna map, then go ahead, the more the merrier.

Anonymous Thu Jul 29 04:33:22 2021 No.7988031
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>>7987947

>find an old 90's wad, interested if the the author had done anything else, look him up
>find out that he is a massive furry edge guro porn artist that just made a doom wad when he was 16 and nothing else

ViolentRumbleAnon !8KaxJ9XaEs Thu Jul 29 04:35:42 2021 No.7988038
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>>7988002
>So, this Violent Rumble thing is another community quake map pack like HUH?
Yes, except it's not vanilla this time. We're using Progs Dump 2 combined with content from both mission packs, several monsters from Quoth, and some new stuff.

>If so, I made a couple maps for HUH and I've kinda been itching to make some more.
Well, you've got about a month before the deadline, though to be honest there's a decent chance it will get pushed back. Good luck if you decide to participate!

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 29 05:03:13 2021 No.7988068 File: 55 KB, 680x512, 1hp.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7988038 >progs dump 2 >mfw my procrastination in learning QuakeC has paid off in a dev tool being made for me instead Neat, I'll try to make something for you

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 29 05:05:55 2021 No.7988075 >>7987214 this game is like getting mentally waterboarded why is the first episode so stingy with ammo and weapons? i hate the goddamn pitchfork so much.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 29 05:07:31 2021 No.7988078 >>7988038 aw man, the previous version's glowing weave pattern on the side was perfect, now you can't even tell what it is. I'd say keep the top and the bottom but revert the sides.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 29 05:10:58 2021 No.7988082 >>7988038 So should we already make maps or wait until the assets are finished? Because I don't want to make anything just have stuff changed or added so I have to redo mine.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 29 05:31:18 2021 No.7988101 >Finally play map well. >Turns out I accidentally started on HMP

ViolentRumbleAnon !8KaxJ9XaEs Thu Jul 29 05:39:32 2021 No.7988113

>>7988068
>Neat, I'll try to make something for you
Based.

>>7988078
>aw man, the previous version's glowing weave pattern on the side was perfect, now you can't even tell what it is. I'd say keep the top and the bottom but revert the sides.
hmmm... Yeah I guess you're right. I figured it looked too 'clean' but with only three blue fullbrights in Quake's palette I guess there's no real way around that.

>>7988082
>So should we already make maps or wait until the assets are finished? Because I don't want to make anything just have stuff changed or added so I have to redo mine.
By all means start now. 90% of what I'm doing at this point is purely additive. We also voted on not having a particular theme, so you can include or not include whatever you like.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 29 05:41:02 2021 No.7988117 >>7988031 >grntxt ???

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 29 05:43:03 2021 No.7988120 >>7988038 >dat dynamic-lighting on hammer weapon I HAVE THE POWER! ! !

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 29 05:46:20 2021 No.7988125 >>7983012 never heard of it.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 29 06:10:29 2021 No.7988163 >>7987882 Also remember to complain that the map is too hard for you, while refusing to play on HMP.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 29 06:13:46 2021 No.7988168 >>7987180 Nah, lost levels suffers just as much from the same problem that DTWID has, in that a lot of the maps just blur together. D2TWID and UDTWID largely reduced this problem IMO.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 29 06:15:09 2021 No.7988174 >>7987180 3 eps first are very good, definitely on par with other dtwid wads, if not better. 3 last are kind of leftovers, but at least they released all map submissions.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 29 06:16:53 2021 No.7988176 >>7988101 Wow, you should commit sudoku right away

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 29 06:30:37 2021 No.7988202 >>7987882 >Friendly reminder that the only true way to play Doom is pistol starting in ultra-violence every map. Not just that, but you have to record demos as you play, and a level is only complete if you break a WR speedrun.

Anonymous Thu Jul 29 07:13:03 2021 No.7988252

>>7987987
holy shit, a map/mapset that turns UAC into black mesa like site? Very nice, I liked both Hl1 and doom 3 for those pre-action exploration maps where you could enjoy the scenery.
How's the gameplay going to be? Regular doom monsters and weapons with reskins or new gameplay completely?

Anonymous Thu Jul 29 07:30:46 2021 No.7988267
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So a few days back i asked here about a SW source port. Somebody recommended VoidSW but it kept looping in menus causing me to constantly relaunch the game so i switched to BuildGDX. I finished shareware version and wanted to play through code of honor today but the game instead launches twin dragon, although using CoH level names like rising son and killing fields. Where have i fucked up?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 29 07:34:49 2021 No.7988272 Aw shucks, I wasn't there when anon plays shitwads streamed my map of HFFM - what did you guys think about Map17? I know I chose a shit midi but I hope atleast the map was okay

Anon plays shitwads !kKIFdpGzRc Thu Jul 29 07:44:27 2021 No.7988281
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>>7988272
I liked it, Anon. The chaingunners at the start handed my ass to me multiple times. The archvile encounter with the tiny pillar was intense too. It did feel a little short though.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 29 07:57:57 2021 No.7988287 >>7988038 >to be honest there's a decent chance it will get pushed back Sorry to say this but - thank goodness... >t. Still havent got to download Trenchbroom or any mapping tutorials I shouldnt have had promised you anything DESU

Anonymous Thu Jul 29 08:22:41 2021 No.7988307

External Information.
1) ad_e1m3/The Sepulcher for Arcane Dimensions by G1ftmacher is an infusion of EuroSAT-TombRaider's visual style in Quake scene (personal note: possibly as attempt at local mainstream supplant).
(personal note: a demonstration of what you strictly NEED Arcane Dimensions for - the One and Only - also sock's remake.)
2) Dark Realms of Blue Magic for Quake by Newhouse (personal note: both this and preceding can be found over celephais) is an infusion of Mask of Eternity modelling sensibilities into Quake (personal note: 's currently considered Core Canon Looks).
(personal note: in other words, The Sepulcher is anti-Quake, Dark Realms of Blue Magic is pro-unQuake.)
In other than those stylistic infusions those two happen to exhibit similar thought patternal explications which seem aversive. Those maps are unpleasant to play. The end.
(personal note: end of personal notes, nevermind for this and above.)

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 29 08:22:47 2021 No.7988308 >>7988267 Just use Raze

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 29 08:36:13 2021 No.7988320 >>7988307 Thanks for information, I guess?

Anonymous Thu Jul 29 08:51:19 2021 No.7988338
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>>7988281
Thanks, it is short sadly, I had some external shit to deal with and the deadline was really close, I think I uploaded it 1 day after the deadline even.
I guess no one really noticed so far but the level name is supposed to sound like "Tei Tenga" but also sound like it is referring to gay group sex

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 29 08:56:52 2021 No.7988342 So, is there any way in Boom format to make stairs rise out of liquid and change texture?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 29 09:15:22 2021 No.7988367 >>7986646 If you're using vertical mouselook I'm fairly certain that's intended. Show us what you see, anon.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 29 09:19:43 2021 No.7988372 >>7986646 if you mean vertically it's just like that because of how the image is. i know GZdoom makes the sky into a gradiented cylinder in hardware mode

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 29 09:30:33 2021 No.7988378 File: 364 KB, 1440x1080, Screenshot_Doom_20210729_142503.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Software mode dynamic lighting actually has more soul than vanilla, somehow.

Anonymous Thu Jul 29 09:37:28 2021 No.7988390
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>>7987730
There's one for Heretic. https://www.moddb.com/mods/osjcs-quake-descent-into-heresy/downloads/osjc-dih-revisisted
>>7987178
Good shit anon. I just wish there was a way to tag the files without converting them into a more usable audio format.

Tangentially related, but are there any good replicant soundfonts for soundcards that aren't the Roland SC-55? Preferably something I can just plug and play into VirtualMIDISynth without the instruments being mapped horribly.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 29 09:40:01 2021 No.7988396 >>7987807 Those are tracker music, they're like midis but they can define their own samples per song and have some new effects. I updated the TNT and Doom 2 midi packs.

Anonymous Thu Jul 29 09:56:17 2021 No.7988421
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Trying to run Nihility (https://www.doomworld.com/vb/wads-mods/85591-nihility-infinite-teeth-shareware-episode-v1-21)) using PrBoom-Plus 2.6um, getting this error message. What does that mean? What am I doing wrong?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 29 10:10:20 2021 No.7988440 I stole a map concept and some layouts from a shitty 1995 map and recreated it and I won't give any credit to the og author. yay

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 29 10:14:33 2021 No.7988449 File: 15 KB, 323x438, jd.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Finally finished plutonia w/ final doomer. I think the only official expansion I have yet to complete is Sigil.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 29 10:16:12 2021 No.7988450 >>7988421 Are you using the correct iwad?

Anonymous Thu Jul 29 10:17:26 2021 No.7988451
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>>7988068
>>7988113
This exchange has piqued my interest, i still play q1 intermittently and love keeping up with the SP maps the community outputs, but it's been 15 years since i touched worldcraft for HL, and i vaguely recall seething at QuArk a long time ago. Any tips for a design newbie from an art/design/technique perspective? Any estimates as to how many hours you put into a map, and how many hours it took to git gud at the design and brushwork? I'm asking about the design side of things because i can find tutorials on working with trenchbroom and i'm fine with the technical side of things, but i've not yet seen any hand-holding "intro to the art side" geared to people who are fine technically.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 29 10:18:42 2021 No.7988453 >>7988440 You monster

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 29 10:20:48 2021 No.7988456 >>7988440 I'm the original author, give credit now or ur mom will die in her sleep

ViolentRumbleAnon !8KaxJ9XaEs Thu Jul 29 10:34:56 2021 No.7988474

>>7988451
>Any tips for a design newbie from an art/design/technique perspective?
This channel has some decent videos about blocking out your maps and using curves and whatnot: https://www.youtube.com/user/mikedm92/videos
Beyond that, I'd say pick one of Quake's original 4 episodes (or techbase maps) to analyze and emulate the style of until you get comfortable enough to experiment.
>Any estimates as to how many hours you put into a map, and how many hours it took to git gud at the design and brushwork?
Getting gud at brushwork just depends on getting comfortable with Trenchbroom's interface and controls, so that's pretty subjective. But, Trenchbroom tends to be intuitive enough that making geometry with an id1 degree of quality is extremely quick. If you're not trying to do some crazy artistic shit, you could potentially make a functional, reasonably complex, small-medium map in 5 hours without lighting. Lighting takes some experimentation so it's generally saved for last, but there are tutorials out there that are easy enough to find.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 29 10:49:45 2021 No.7988504 File: 26 KB, 320x200, 0000002425.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] just got into hexem i really love it, how can i make the hud disappear and just have letters and symbols like ive seen other people have it?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 29 10:52:25 2021 No.7988507 >>7988450 Yep, the Ultimate Doom iwad. Works fine in other ports I tried (GZ, Retro), but not PrBoom.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 29 10:53:03 2021 No.7988510 >>7988504 Most sourceports allow you to change the hud and screen size by pressing the - and + keys. Enjoy Hexen, what a great game.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 29 10:56:46 2021 No.7988514 File: 116 KB, 1360x768, Screenshot_Hexen_20210730_005536.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7988510 thank you, am i doing it right?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 29 10:58:03 2021 No.7988516 >>7988514 the SOVL mode

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 29 10:58:54 2021 No.7988517 >>7988507 Weird, cause with my copy of prboom+ 2.6um, nihility works.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 29 11:05:17 2021 No.7988530 >>7988038 >though to be honest there's a decent chance it will get pushed back I hope it does. I started a map, and have some ideas, but I've had more pressing things to do recently.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 29 11:11:55 2021 No.7988545 Just played Qump. It was quite mediocre experience. Not good, not bad. Just mediocre, and forgettable. Hub map was really atmospheric, and sadly that was the best part. I hope Violent Rumble turns out to be better.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 29 11:15:12 2021 No.7988549 >>7988504 Maybe you should hex 'em.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 29 11:20:44 2021 No.7988561 >>7988507 >>7988517 Just did a fresh install of the feb 2.6um release, and got the same error as you Try updating to the latest dev version found on the actions tab.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 29 11:32:48 2021 No.7988583 >>7988449 Sigil is better than all of those. It's designed how all Doom levels should be designed.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 29 11:34:38 2021 No.7988587 >>7988583 t. Romero

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 29 11:35:55 2021 No.7988590 >>7988583 I like Sigil, but its not my favourite mapset of all time, either.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 29 11:37:00 2021 No.7988592 Is there a way to get doombuilder to directly save the textures you've used into your pwad, or do you have to manually import them all with slade? Cause that's kind of a pain in the ass.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 29 11:39:37 2021 No.7988595 >>7988592 You need SLADE, but that's, like, 3 clicks.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 29 11:42:04 2021 No.7988607 >>7988514 I just now realized that the screen border graphics can be made into some nice looking flor/wall textures real quick

Anonymous Thu Jul 29 11:42:59 2021 No.7988610
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>>7988451
- pick a palette: a room with a dozen textures that would set the theme. already at this point you'll probably get some ideas just browsing through textures.
- make some prefabs first. an archway, a pillar, a window - this will inform the level's scale. generally it's better to overscale than underscale.
- try making each area have a unique detail to orient the player. try making this detail be seen through doorways from other areas. look up "disney weenies".
- show the door before showing the key. show the key before showing the path to the key.
- rooms with just one way in and one way out are candidates for expansion. side paths that loop back is easier than total interconnectivity, both to design and to play.
- when in doubt, break up symmetry, elevation, flat walls and empty ceilings.
- first step of lighting is deciding how much bounce lighting is appropriate for the map. stick to a few light colors, rather than the entire spectrum.
- some threads ago someone linked a pdf called "The Hows and Whys of Level Design". might be what you're looking for, but I advise against overthinking first maps.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 29 11:43:49 2021 No.7988612 >>7988595 Yeah but I'd have to actually find and copy each texture individually, I'd assume it's bad form to just drag and drop like three whole texture packs into my wad right?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 29 11:44:48 2021 No.7988614 >>7984491 If it was Nestle then he would've been already dead from a drone-bomb related 'accident'

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 29 11:47:20 2021 No.7988617 File: 1.21 MB, 1900x1069, Screenshot_Doom_20210729_161350.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7988614

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 29 11:47:33 2021 No.7988620 >>7985659 If you turn it into slaughtershit and troon out, you will be a shoe-in for a Cacoward.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 29 11:49:01 2021 No.7988624 >>7988607 Are they not right now? Doom has a flat for border, I think.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 29 11:49:49 2021 No.7988626 File: 1.21 MB, 1900x1069, Screenshot_Doom_20210729_161350.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Started Hellbound, this'll be my last final doomer expansion, gonna miss it.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 29 11:50:03 2021 No.7988627 >>7988612 Eeh, it'll work. You can try using archive maintenance tool to then delete all the unused textures, but it doesn't respect animation, so so far I failed to do it myself.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 29 11:53:06 2021 No.7988635 Trying SiN gold from Gog and its fucked: No music plays, no cinematic intro, the arenas in tutorial area are softlocked, and mouse is really wonky - how do I play this shit?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 29 12:21:27 2021 No.7988680 File: 9 KB, 320x200, DOOM0000.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] http://www.doomwadstation.net/main/bfmh/

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 29 12:21:45 2021 No.7988681 How to git gud with texturing? I never know what floor and ceiling I should choose, what wall fits here and there and how high rooms should be if I don't want the tiling to look really shitty.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 29 12:25:47 2021 No.7988686 >>7988681 Try to make complex interlocking 3d objects. And also make the rooms look like something, but nothing in particular.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 29 12:36:18 2021 No.7988712 >>7988686 Sorry I forgot to mention I was talking about Doom.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 29 12:37:48 2021 No.7988713 >>7988712 So was I. The best look for a map is when you can visualize 3d world out of it. I also like to color-code my rooms, but that's just preference.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 29 12:41:34 2021 No.7988720 >>7988713 But that doesn't help me in the slightest with texturing. Though I tried some slight color-coding, but I find it really hard with the Doom 2 textures.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 29 12:44:08 2021 No.7988728 File: 62 KB, 256x256, ms06r1_mass.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7981943 Does anyone know of any good animu mods for Doom/Quake?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 29 12:44:46 2021 No.7988730 >>7988626 Map 29 might be a slideshow, just to let you know.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 29 12:46:04 2021 No.7988734 >>7988720 Post some screenshots, I can tell you why suck, maybe.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 29 12:51:30 2021 No.7988740 File: 436 KB, 1920x2160, stuff.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7988734 These are two completely different rooms in different parts of the map

Anonymous Thu Jul 29 12:56:21 2021 No.7988753

>>7988720

Doom 2 vanilla textures are so limited that it should be like, a challenge mapping category on it's own. You can't make anything coherent out of it, that's why Downtown, Industrial Zone et al look so stanky.

Get the Gothic and Cage texture packs, opens up a lot of options without diverging too far from the vanilla feel. There's also one that just re-colours a bunch of the rocks and bricks etc into different variants.

Remember things generally look better with a visual break. If you ever heard the dress-sense advice about not wearing the same colour next to itself without something in between, or a change of shade, think of textures the same way.

Overall though focus on choosing textures that look good together rather than ones that represent what you're trying to make something look like, you'll usually get better results. Doom will always look abstract, your job is to make enough of a suggestion that the player's imagination fills it in.

I guess taste/style sense just comes more naturally to some people than others though.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 29 12:57:19 2021 No.7988754 >>7988740 I don't find anything wrong with the texturing, but I think there could be more detail on the ceiling and the floor since they rooms look a bit flat

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 29 13:00:12 2021 No.7988761 >>7988740 >>7988754 I keep popping open the github page for learning to make a map, but get a little overwhelmed each time before I start - how difficult is it to learn the program / tools in order to start putting pieces together?

Anonymous Thu Jul 29 13:01:00 2021 No.7988762

>>7988740
Yeah, this is pretty good, although marble isn't a good tecture to end abruptly. I'd try making it all into SUPPORT3.

>>7988753
>Doom 2 vanilla textures are so limited that it should be like, a challenge mapping category on it's own. You can't make anything coherent out of it, that's why Downtown, Industrial Zone et al look so stanky.
Doom 2 textures are more than enough to make a compelling map.

Anonymous Thu Jul 29 13:05:21 2021 No.7988767

>>7988761
>how difficult is it to learn the program / tools in order to start putting pieces together
The modern editors are extremely user-friendly. Watch any tutorial on UDB and learn the shortcuts and remember you can auto-align textures.
Slade is also extremely easy to use, but it won't help you with having to know what's actually going on in a wad.

>>7988753
>>7988754
>>7988762
Thanks, yeah, in the second room the ceiling isn't even finished, but I never know what to put there. I already have tons of skylights everywhere, but since this is some kind of ancient forgotten temple/castle thing I don't want to use anything too obviously tech-y, which also incorporates lights.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 29 13:05:21 2021 No.7988768 >>7988720 >>7988753 >>7988762 I think Going Down is still the best example of how vanilla textures can be used, I would recommend checking it out for inspiration.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 29 13:25:12 2021 No.7988815 File: 46 KB, 355x500, pinky-1578303-normal.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Any Doom wads with a 'Doom — der film' inspired wheeled Pinkies out there?

Anonymous Thu Jul 29 13:26:33 2021 No.7988818

are the 50's turok comics referenced in the games?
because i'm pretty sure turok going from a name to a title isn't the only difference but i wonder about andar being referenced ever
i wonder how actual natives feel about anything in the franchise in general

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 29 13:27:50 2021 No.7988820 >>7988762 I never said you can't make a compelling map out of them. Just it'll always look very distinctly Doom 2.

Anonymous Thu Jul 29 13:29:54 2021 No.7988828
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>>7988635
Legit question about SiN - is the protagonist meant to be an AfroAmerican like the hero of Blade: Vampire Slayer (of Marvel comics and the Wesley Snipes movies), or is he supposed to be a dark-skin Latino?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 29 13:52:30 2021 No.7988889 >>7988504 That screenshot is actually from a cut level.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 29 13:54:25 2021 No.7988896 >>7988610 This pic doesnt apply to Quake because slopes cause you to constantly slide down, and gain velocity when you jump. Chaotic neutral is the real best choice.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 29 13:55:28 2021 No.7988898 >>7988561 It works now, thanks >>7988815 >'Doom — der film' inspired There's not much you're getting, aside from BFG design and this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IF4UJk93pWo

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 29 13:55:32 2021 No.7988901 >>7988753 >You can't make anything coherent out of it, Play Brigandine. I mean, its definitely not easy, but its possible.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 29 14:02:28 2021 No.7988912 >>7988815 freedoom guy kinda looks like karl urban and then there's the skulltag bfg10k

Anonymous Thu Jul 29 14:12:57 2021 No.7988929
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>>7988828
By looking at character model from original games' cinematic and Episodes, I would assume that he should be dark-skinned Lation.
However, on Reloaded Cover he seems to be more AfroAmerican, but maybe something is just messing with my eyes at the moment.

Anonymous Thu Jul 29 14:32:56 2021 No.7988956

>>7985345
do you know where i can get that wad, i can't find it saw some youtube vids and it looks really good

>>7988168
i haven't fully played through it yet just episode 1 and some 2 but i could potentially see that happening
>>7988174
At first i kept getting bored with the DTWID wads like expecting them to be hard in the first few levels.
Like now one can make a all out knock down drag out from level one and thats okay
>git gud
I guess lmao but then i remembered its suppose to be rehashing the game,
>what if X scenario
and finally enjoyed it with LE. kinda sucks the last 3 throw aways if true but also cool its More Doom 1 content and we don't get enough of that imo.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 29 14:39:34 2021 No.7988969 Can anybody tell me what the actual mechanics behind two-shotting cyberdemons are? My google-fu seems to weak to find an actual answer.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 29 14:44:43 2021 No.7988979 >>7988969 https://youtu.be/MsCqLQJ1EOc

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 29 14:54:49 2021 No.7988993 >>7988969 BFG is basically a shotgun, despite giving impression of some kind of nuke. But it also actually fires when the big green blob explodes.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 29 15:03:00 2021 No.7989006 >>7988993 It also only fires the tracers from the direction that you initially fired the ball from. Which I didn't know until like a month ago. After 25 years of doomin.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 29 15:05:28 2021 No.7989013 >>7988378 There's dynamic lights in software mode?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 29 15:07:23 2021 No.7989016 >>7988979 >>7988993 >>7989006 Well shit, I always thought the tracers were spawned from the projectile itself (kind of like a cluster bomb). That explains a lot.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 29 15:07:47 2021 No.7989018 >>7989013 You can set up GZDoom's hardware mode to look like software mode even with the palette and stuff

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 29 15:09:38 2021 No.7989021 >>7989018 Theres also dynamic lights in actual software mode. Of course the peformance is much worse.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 29 15:10:37 2021 No.7989026 >>7988753 Gonna second the other guy and say Going Down, it has some very creative use of the stock Doom 2 textures.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 29 15:13:06 2021 No.7989035 >>7989016 That would make a lot more sense, wouldn't it?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 29 15:16:24 2021 No.7989039 File: 412 KB, 1566x802, tb.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7988038 >there's a decent chance it will get pushed back it better

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 29 15:36:48 2021 No.7989075 What other 360 degree shooters are there besides Descent 1 & 2 and Forsaken Remastered.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 29 15:41:07 2021 No.7989082 >>7989075 The 360 port of Quake 2. Cus it's on the 360.;^)

Anonymous Thu Jul 29 16:28:18 2021 No.7989170
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>>7989013
>>7989018

Yeah, it's hidden away under the post processing menu. Set the tonemap option to "palette".

That way even with dynamic lights and bloom etc, it still renders like classic Doom, and it actually looks fucking cool honestly. Like a halfway step between Quake and Doom.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 29 16:47:57 2021 No.7989205 In Boom, can I make stairs out of single pillars or do the sectors all have to be connected? I really don't want to use a million "raise floor" with dummy sectors.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 29 17:01:07 2021 No.7989239 Update is out. Let me know if things feel smoother. https://github.com/CharlesLove/from-doom-with-love/releases/latest

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 29 17:24:44 2021 No.7989283 >>7989205 You could make a dummy staircase. The amount of sectors is about the same but at least its only one trigger.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 29 17:46:13 2021 No.7989318 File: 18 KB, 480x360, hqdefault.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] HAHAHAHAHAHAHA GET FUCKED

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 29 17:47:00 2021 No.7989319 https://twitter.com/mankrip/status/1420857937904521227 This is a interesting quirk >>7988929 reloaded turned him into a black guy first 2 he looks caribean

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 29 17:49:16 2021 No.7989326 >>7989318 they shoulda put this in a secret in final doom 20 plus years ago desu

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 29 17:51:35 2021 No.7989328 >>7988828 I always thought mixed even back then. They could have done some cool shit with his transformation. Man I lvoe sin its such a shame the first one came so jank, and the sequel is shit.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 29 17:56:59 2021 No.7989340 >>7988038 >though to be honest there's a decent chance it will get pushed back That is very nice because my ambition has potentially grown beyond my mapping capabilities but dammit I want to try to bring this image in my mind to life.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 29 17:57:55 2021 No.7989342 >>7989205 I'd just bite the bullet and do all the dummy sectors for maximum control.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 29 17:59:41 2021 No.7989348 Playthrough video of map02 of HFFM is up - Bearhouse. I'm pretty sure I was doing something wrong. The double vile fight went extremely good. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-4Rp-n0UVg&pp=sAQA

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 29 18:00:30 2021 No.7989349 >>7989326 Would've made for great Keen replacement.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 29 18:01:27 2021 No.7989352 >>7988514 I didn't know they released Hexen for 3DO

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 29 18:04:42 2021 No.7989362 >>7989348 Extremely well.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 29 18:05:44 2021 No.7989364 >>7988898 >InfectedZombieAlienSound.wav Well now thats a blast from the past...

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 29 18:15:08 2021 No.7989391 >>7987791 >a duke mod https://www.moddb.com/mods/duke-nukem-3d-weapons-monsters >the best duke mod mm

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 29 18:18:09 2021 No.7989394 >>7987882 >not -fast keking @ (You)

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 29 18:34:15 2021 No.7989421 >>7988956 Just google "Doom DBP20," it's the first result

Anonymous Thu Jul 29 18:40:31 2021 No.7989440

>>7989170
I dare say it doesn't look half-bad.
I bet the dynamic lights in hardware mode would actually look decent with some colour banding, but I have no clue if something like that is already in the engine or not.
>>7988728
Naku Naru, DemonSteele.
>>7988514
>i386DX ON

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 29 18:54:56 2021 No.7989476 >>7989421 ahh it was on mod db, i was on id games typing away like wtf its not on here lmao. >>7989349 For sure that woulda definitely been cool

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 29 18:57:35 2021 No.7989482 >>7989476 >id games https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/Ports/d-f/dbp20_dnd ?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 29 19:00:22 2021 No.7989486 >>7989482 oh cool i couldn't find it for whatever reason

Anonymous Thu Jul 29 19:04:37 2021 No.7989501
File: 2.97 MB, 720x405, forsaken remastered.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>7983457
>>7983424
>Its a shame the 6D movement and navigation was such a filter for people
It's a tragedy considering 6DOFs are incredibly fun, especially when attempting to evade enemy projectiles.

Anonymous Thu Jul 29 19:06:06 2021 No.7989504

>>7989440

>I bet the dynamic lights in hardware mode would actually look decent with some colour banding, but I have no clue if something like that is already in the engine or not.

It does, if you use the tonemap palette thing, it naturally causes colour banding, since it's shading everything down to the 256 colour equivalent.

You can see it better in movement as the lights flicker, real nice circular gradient, but I cba to make a webbum

Anonymous Thu Jul 29 19:31:41 2021 No.7989576

>>7989501
I don't think this style of game was ever done quite correctly... imo (ofc).
Descent and forsaken are like floaty robo doom. They should be more like bullet hell games. The navigation aspect never really feels fun to me when mixed with fast action.

But again. opinions. I don't hate descent (didn't play much forsaken). But it never felt nearly as fun as your dooms or quakes.
Maybe it's just that they're overly blocky.

Anonymous Thu Jul 29 19:37:59 2021 No.7989594
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>>7989576
I think Overload has the best movement, but Forsaken's speed is more engaging to me, but I definitely see you're point on the floaty-ness.
Video related is the true potential of the game:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=voiENb-WXRU

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 29 19:50:45 2021 No.7989627 The real wolfendoom https://youtube.com/watch?v=_yQs_b9ppRQ

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 29 20:00:16 2021 No.7989667 >>7989501 I've been playing Forsaken Remastered and it's so much fun. >>7989594 Overload is the real Decent 3, a lot of the same devs worked on it and it's one of the best modern FPS games.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 29 20:14:45 2021 No.7989717 File: 519 KB, 1920x1080, Screenshot_Doom_20210729_165636.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 29 20:20:11 2021 No.7989735 >>7989318 What wad?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 29 20:27:52 2021 No.7989753 >>7989717 nice,definitely an improvement

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 29 20:55:14 2021 No.7989825 >>7989735 Knee Deep in ZDoom

Anonymous Thu Jul 29 21:03:32 2021 No.7989859

>>7989440
>Naku Naru, DemonSteele
Sick, those mods look pretty sweet.
I did some digging for some Quake anime mods as well and found these:

>Gundam Universe: https://www.moddb.com/mods/gundam-universe
Quake 3 with fukken rowbats. Gameplay is modded to have huge jumps, allowing for more aerial combat. Would probably make a great /m/ gamenight. >tfw no guntank
I also found a trailer for it on archive.org: https://archive.org/details/d8a0a25bbec69fc2f4df4092b880b19e
>Decisive Battle Quake: http://leileilol.mancubus.net/leiware/download.php?view.24
Really old mod from 1997 adding DBZ characters into quake. I currently can't get it to work on quakespasm, but from looking at the readme file, it looks like combat is modded to be more similar to the anime.

I also ended up finding a Lum model on the worldspawn archive.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 29 21:07:19 2021 No.7989878 >>7989859 Anon you forgot the based Transformers Quake 2

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 29 21:22:35 2021 No.7989947 >>7989878 That mod looks pretty cool but I don't think it technically counts as animu unless it has some of the Japanese exclusive characters.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 29 21:24:43 2021 No.7989954 File: 1.40 MB, 1920x1080, q2_0005.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7989947 Transformers were originally japanese toys and anime by diaclone.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 29 21:26:31 2021 No.7989960 >>7989954 Oh sorry, I didn't know.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 29 21:30:16 2021 No.7989978 >>7989954 can we get this as the next OP?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 29 21:32:05 2021 No.7989983 File: 115 KB, 1920x1080, Screenshot_Doom_20210729_213038.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Map17 of Eviternity down - This one wasn't too bad - a little annoying but there was a lot of enemy in fighting letting me just zip on by

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 29 21:40:08 2021 No.7990015 >>7988815 What a ridiculous wheelchair.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 29 21:41:58 2021 No.7990026 >>7989016 The unorthodox functionality of the retail BFG has me thinking it was just some kind of slapdash alteration to the beta behavior, and they didn't actually realize just how fucking genius it actually was.

Anonymous Thu Jul 29 21:57:57 2021 No.7990091
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>>7989983
Quickly busted out Map18 - Had a great time - actually felt like a well built area which was invaded by hell demons rather than an Escher painting of Archviles and Astral Cacodemons

Anonymous Thu Jul 29 22:00:53 2021 No.7990105
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>Eviternity 2018
>Ancient Ayys 2016
>Valiant 2015
What were the pre-2015 must-play wads?

I briefly rediscovered Doom in 2014 because the youtube algorithm recommended me videos of Sunder map11 and Hell Ground map7. But I quit because I was unable to find more maps I liked, though I don't think I even knew about DoomWorld back then. I came back recently because of this thread, and now there is countless stuff to play it seems. I obviously missed something when I played in 2014. What were the must-play wads before Valiant?
My list: #1 Hell Ground #2 Sunder #3 Scythe 2
I know Hell Ground is good but doesn't deserve #1 but I just don't know any better

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 29 22:06:17 2021 No.7990116 >>7990091 map19 is the worst in the entire pack, steel yourself and don't be discouraged

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 29 22:07:01 2021 No.7990121 >>7989627 The way Wolfenstein 3D's synth/soundfont just butchers Ah Geez! gives me anxiety.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 29 22:21:33 2021 No.7990148 File: 82 KB, 640x726, battletime.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7990116 I will persevere - when I conquer you will see me post here

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 29 22:43:13 2021 No.7990205 >>7981945 Grim Borough released for CHASM https://www.moddb.com/games/chasm-the-rift/addons/grim-borough-for-chasm-the-rift

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 29 22:47:20 2021 No.7990214 >>7989594 Looks like a lot of fun with the joysticks honestly. I don't think I'd be interested with keyboard and mouse though. Could be wrong. I like the over the top particles explosions and shit.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 29 22:47:45 2021 No.7990216 >>7989954 Transformers were indeed originally Japanese toyline called diaclone. But there was no anime based on the toys. If Hasbro hadn't stepped in, there might have been.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 29 23:25:32 2021 No.7990307 where new thread

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 29 23:58:43 2021 No.7990376 >>7990307 /vr/ isn't that fast, even these days, we usually wait until page 8 at least, but often we can go to page 9

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 30 00:01:09 2021 No.7990383 >>7990205 >Use Dosbox I can't do that chief.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 30 00:06:38 2021 No.7990394 >>7990383 Just open it with panzerchasm source port

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 30 00:52:30 2021 No.7990481 Doom = Mario Duke = Sonic

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 30 00:54:20 2021 No.7990483 >>7988889 neat.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 30 00:55:15 2021 No.7990485 >>7990481 Who's Crash then?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 30 01:01:50 2021 No.7990492 File: 9 KB, 640x400, nukum.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7990481 who's Duke then?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 30 01:05:53 2021 No.7990501 >>7990481 But I love Doom and hate Duke, yet love Sonic and hate Mario.

Anonymous Fri Jul 30 01:10:43 2021 No.7990514 [SPOILER]

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>>7990481
Doom = Mario, massively influential and still going strong to this day
Duke = Crash, great game but went nowhere
Half-Life = Sonic, extremely linear, press right/W to win

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 30 01:13:49 2021 No.7990517 >>7990514 You never played Sonic

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 30 01:22:56 2021 No.7990541 >>7990517 You got bamboozled

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 30 01:24:49 2021 No.7990550 >>7990514 The Douk-Crash comparison probably isn't too crazy given that both went away from their original creators at a given point, albeit at different points.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 30 01:27:41 2021 No.7990554 >>7990485 Doom = Crash Heretic/Hexen = Spyro Duke = Gex

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 30 01:33:34 2021 No.7990570 >>7990554 Interesting angle, they both do love to spout movie quotes.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 30 01:43:18 2021 No.7990594 >>7990481 Duke is a lot like Gex if you think about it >product of the 90's >constantly spews movie quotes >arguably one good game >lives on today purely through ironic memes and an embarrassing legacy

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 30 01:47:58 2021 No.7990602 >>7990594 That's not true at all, Duke is unironically cool, and Duke Nukem 3D is unironically a very excellent first person shooter.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 30 02:38:14 2021 No.7990660 >>7990594 >arguably one good game That's a hell of an argument. Time to Kill, and Manhatten Project are probably the the hardest points you'd have to make to me anyway. Duke 2 is still considered a good game by many.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 30 02:53:14 2021 No.7990680 >>7990594 duke would be saved if randy would give up the flash drive

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 30 04:59:21 2021 No.7990843 File: 31 KB, 527x224, file.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] yay recognition

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 30 05:11:37 2021 No.7990858 >>7990843 Based Walter.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 30 06:05:53 2021 No.7990939 >>7990843 Is this the topic where they post recent releases? I saw it but then I lost it.

Anonymous Fri Jul 30 06:22:57 2021 No.7990974

>>7989075
Overload is a modern 'spiritual successor' to descent made by some of the original team. There are a bunch more non-/vr/ descent "clones" and 6dof games like sublevel zero, and some non-clones like 'shattered horizon', but i dont think any of them have been particularly successful.
I'm not aware of any other /vr/ 6dof shooters, the closest games ive played would be terminal velocity and hellbender.

Anonymous Fri Jul 30 06:28:32 2021 No.7990987
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>ongoing years-long attempt to play through Doomworld's Top 100 WADs list
>procrastinating at 1997 because of Hell Revealed
>finally get there, guess I have to do it eventually
>play through first four maps
>it's... not destroying me
This should make me feel more at ease but it's only making me nervous, like the game is going to hit the difficulty switch when I least expect it and fuck me over super hard
When does the torment begin? Asking so I can steel myself for it

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 30 06:30:11 2021 No.7990996 Make new thread asswipes

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 30 06:31:14 2021 No.7990997 >>7990987 >When does the torment begin? Asking so I can steel myself for it Map09

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 30 06:31:45 2021 No.7991001 >>7990987 Yeah, MAP13 is where the whole fun starts.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 30 06:36:17 2021 No.7991007 File: 81 KB, 640x480, doom04.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Finally. I wonder how long it would take me to beat Refueling Base saveless, considering I don't remember anything at all.

Anonymous Fri Jul 30 06:48:20 2021 No.7991016

>>7990105
2010 had Speed Of Doom, influenced by Scythe 2 and did influence Skillsaw more than any other wad. Also Epic 2 and UAC Ultra were released, both now highly regarded classics. 2010 also saw release of official expansion No Rest For The Living.

At 2011 Skillsaw debuted with Lunatic and Vanguard. Also new oldschool worshipping mapping scene started it's rising with Doom The Way id Did, Double Impact, Jenesis and Reverie.

2012 had Back To Saturn X and it's sequel got released 2 years later. The series is regarded as two of best wads of last decade. It gathered decade's best mappers (inc. Skillsaw, Esselfortium, Xaser, Joshy, Tarnsman, Mechadon etc.) together, and the quality is seen in maps.

2013 had Ribbiks debuting with his Swim With The Whales and Stardate 20x6. He created middle-ground for Sunder-like high-challenge and modern Plutonia and Scythe 2 influenced combat and map structure. Same year also had Doom 2 The Way id Did. Idea which sounded bad on paper, but was very fun to play.

2014 had Mayan Mishap, very Skillsaw-influenced wad by Tango and Resurgence, Speed Of Doom's sequel by Joshy. But the best one, which got released that year was Going Down. Fun concept and fun combat. It was chaotic, surprising and unique in ways no wad has ever been (even after it). It's a must play wad.

2015 didn't just have Valiant, but also Sunlust, which regarded as best thing Ribbiks has ever done. Dragonfly (Eviternity creator) also debuted with Skulldash.

Anonymous Fri Jul 30 08:14:48 2021 No.7991093

Arcane Dimensions.
Point: Myst 3 Exile not working low poly !
Is ENTIRELY WRONG!

BFF-ism. For BFF depiction see Hunger Games.
In relation to Quake.
QUAKE DEPICT QUAKE BAD
I QUAKE
Buyout initiative. Buyout project. Quake buyout project. QUAKE B-U-Y-O-U-T P-R-O-J-E-C-T.
So awesome. And then HGJBUDUDUDUHGP and then he like falls and like KWAAAAAUAAHUHAAAAAA so awesome.
Never mind.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 30 08:18:03 2021 No.7991095 >>7991093 P.S. External Information: Wrath will make do.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 30 08:29:45 2021 No.7991106 baking

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 30 08:30:43 2021 No.7991108 File: 1 KB, 88x38, meds.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7991093 >>7991095 Take yours

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 30 08:34:33 2021 No.7991117 NEW THREAD >>7991112 >>7991112 >>7991112

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 30 09:29:52 2021 No.7991170 >>7991016 based detailed response poster

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