/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.7975424]

is there anything you autists find wrong with these collections or are they a good way to experience megaman? i've been on a huge megaman kick recently and want to play them all on my crt for cheap.

[Anonymous No.7975440]

>muh coomlection

[Anonymous No.7975449]

>>7975424
They should be fine OP. However, you’re probably best experiencing them on the original hardware using a flash cart or hell, even NES emulators at this point are fine. My worry would be the controls.

[Anonymous No.7975460]

>no Mega Man & Bass
Shit collection. The modern Legacy collection also falls short due to this omission.

[Anonymous No.7975462]

>>7975460
That’s like bitching there is no Mega Man Soccer.

[Anonymous No.7975465]

>>7975462
Mega Man & Bass is a mainline game. It's just missing a number.

[Anonymous No.7975469]

>>7975465
It’s clearly a spin-off.

[Anonymous No.7975472]

>>7975460
Yeah it fucking sucks
>>7975469
It's a mainline game. Mega Man 9 ending calls back to previous 9 Wily fights. But it doesn't matter if it's canon or not because it's a great game, they should've included it in the Legacy Collection 2

[Anonymous No.7975506]

not sure about the classic collection, but the X collection is great in regards to input delay, or lack thereof.

[Anonymous No.7975519]

I remember being disappointed with the X Collection. In the hype up to it, inclearly recall there being talk that they'd touch things up, maybe add new music, etc, but in the end it only amounted to some dialogue tweaks in X1 or something. Supposedly they axed this since they'd planned to continue the Maverick Hunter X series, but of course that didn't happen.

At least they threw in the Euro CD version of X3, since that was new content for US audiences (though I prefer the SNES game; too bad there wasn't an option to switch versions/soundtrack)

[Anonymous No.7975524]

>>7975424
I had the classic collection on GameCube when I was younger and I hunted so hard to get the X collection on PS2 later on. They're both great.

The classic collection has 1-8 and two arcade games. 1-6 are the PSX versions, 7 is, well it's the only version of 7, and 8 is the PSX version as well. There's nothing wrong with the PSX versions, but if you suck you might enjoy the added hints feature. The only possible gripe you could possibly have is that the Saturn version of 8 has some hidden boss fights with characters from earlier games and that's not present here (but it's not present in any other collection either).

It doesn't have Rockman and Forte and that's a shame.

The X collection is fine but X6 is a shitty game.

At the end of the day you could just emulate everything in those collections. So long as you have a good controller it's fine.

[Anonymous No.7975525]

>>7975524
I forgot to mention X3 is the PSX version with the anime cutscenes. The SNES version has better music and no loading times though.

[Anonymous No.7975536]

>>7975524
>It doesn't have Rockman and Forte and that's a shame.
And Legacy Collection doesn't even have the arcade games yet I still bought it like a cuck I am. Fuck Crapcom for doing this to me

[Anonymous No.7975545]

>>7975424
GC Anniversay Collection has B/A buttons reversed, with zero options to change it in-game, unless you use a hack. I think that the PS2 version only runs at 480i which looks pretty bad, even on a CRT. This only happens with the Anniversary Collection tho, X collection runs at native 240p. There's a fair amount of small problems with those collections, but I'll keep it like this:
AC: looks blurry, there are rumours of small input lag in every game and some might say that there's big input lag on MM8. MM7 lacks the ending sequence and in MM8 some bosses have high pitched voices (among some other small bugs that don't make the games unplayable.) . On the good side, when playing the NES titles, AC adds the option to change your weapon with the triggers, a save system is there so you don't have to beat MM1 in one sitting and PS2 and Xbox have an option that uses arranged soundtracks.
>XC: X3 is the PS1 version, in X1 and X2 sometimes the music doesn't loop right. There might be small bugs on the PS1 titles but it's almost unnoticeable. X6 doesn't have voice acting (which might be a plus actually) I've heard that some games even run better than the originals. Battle & Chase is a nice plus.

[Anonymous No.7975560]

>>7975449
i mean, the ps2 controller is practically a snes controller with analog sticks attached, so i'm not too worried
>>7975545
thank you my man, this is exactly the kind of in-depth response i was looking for. a shame about the anniversary collection being 480i and little niggles like that, but the bonuses sound like they'd still make the package worth it for me
i have one question to ask though, does x6 still have the original intro and outro songs? i heard legacy collection took them out due to licensing issues or something to that effect, but i love them too much to play without them

[Anonymous No.7975575]

>>7975536
I didn't buy them because I already own 1-7 and Forte. I'm debating buying the collection for 8-10 but since it's digital only I don't see the point.

Same goes for X collection, I have X-X3 and I'm not sure if I care for the rest.

[Anonymous No.7975593]

>>7975575
>and I'm not sure if I care for the rest
If you are a collectorfag then just get the first X collection, all of the good games are there plus the second X collection never got a physical release as far as I remember, it's just a download code

[Anonymous No.7975768]

>>7975560
>does x6 still have the original intro and outro songs?
I'm 100% sure it has the original US intro (no narrator), and the outro. At least the Gamecube version does, I've just checked it.

[Anonymous No.7975827]

>>7975593
I already own the first 3 games on super famicom, I'm not sure if I care for the rest. I guess if I get desperate to play I can pick it up on steam during a sale.

[Anonymous No.7975882]

>>7975827
>I already own the first 3 games on super famicom, I'm not sure if I care for the rest
X4 is awesome, it's a must play for the Super Famicom X trilogy fans

[Anonymous No.7975902]

>>7975472
There should be a spin-off collection too. I love that we have the collections we do, but we are losing a lot of games to time.

[Anonymous No.7975904]

>>7975593
X collection Vol 2 physical is Japan exclusive, only if you bought them separately. The 1+2 bundle only includes 1 physical and 2 as code. I refused to buy the american one mostly because of that and they removed some songs from the japanese versions of the games, jap collection kept them.

[Anonymous No.7975908]

The X Collection is very good, but X1 and X2 are emulated and suffer from innacurate audio issues and noticeable input lag. The X3 version is the PS1 one, so you might not like it.

[Anonymous No.7975972]

>>7975460
You unlock Megaman and Bass in Megaman X Collection after beating the 6 games. Great compilation btw

[Anonymous No.7975984]

>>7975904
I really like the covers. They are a bit generic but still great

[Anonymous No.7976012]

>>7975984
I think is the art itself. That artist reminds me a lot of SENSEI's work (the best X artist).

[Anonymous No.7976160]

>>7975972
This isn't true.

[Anonymous No.7976163]

>>7975972
You were 'that kid', weren't you?

[Anonymous No.7976252]

>>7975424
>Mega Man Mania never ever

[Anonymous No.7976446]

I play the nip psx ports without the help they add. What do you guys think of that

[Anonymous No.7976453]

>>7975972
You're confusing it with Mega Man Battle & Chase.

[Anonymous No.7976464]

>>7975902
That would be the most fucked up set of games.
>Rockboard
>Mega Man Soccer
>Mega Man Battle & Chase
>Super Adventure Rockman
>Mega Man & Bass
>Mega Man The Power Battle
>Mega Man The Power Fighters
>Mega Man Xtreme
>Mega Man Xtreme 2

[Anonymous No.7976474]

>>7975424
I heard about anniversary collection having input lag. You could test it yourself with the iso.
You did softmod your PS2, right anon?

[Anonymous No.7976480]

>>7975424
>AC and 2 Dolphin downloads are somehow better than the official way of getting it 11 years later

[Anonymous No.7976485]

>tfw playing the old PC port of X8 at a comfy 4:3 locked res
Fuck the nu-collection.

[Anonymous No.7976495]

>>7976474
All the collections have input lag. It's actually impossible for them not to because of how modern consoles work. You're dealing with APIs and shit these days, not the bare metal like on the NES and SNES. Modern games are designed with this in mind but retro ports suffer some lag.

[Anonymous No.7976753]

>>7976464
Fucking implying I wouldn’t buy it anyway.
I do agree with you, it would be silly, but I’m all for it. The sonic collections are a little goofy too

[Anonymous No.7976778]

>>7975902
We are not losing anything. These games are easily playable today.

[Anonymous No.7976946]

>>7976495
>>7976480
>>7976474
>>7976446
>>7975908
>>7975904
>>7975560
superior

[Anonymous No.7976985]

>>7976946
How's the arranged soundtrack? Better than the originals? I heard years ago that the MMAC level music didn't loop properly, is that true?

[Anonymous No.7977003]

>>7976985
I have the 3 one and the arragned was terrible

I always see footage with the changes only online

[Anonymous No.7977153]

>>7976778
Yeah, I know about emulation, and I’ve played a couple of the spin-offs.
I’m always a proponent of rereleases and other official means of playing older games though.
As shit as it is for not including a lot of games, I’m glad the switch online service has the snes and nes games it does. (The wii, wiiu, and 3ds Eshops were also good but those aren’t the modern consoles so I’m not using them as examples)

[Anonymous No.7977170]

May just be a personal thing but I would hate playing these games with a joystick, and I really don't like PS2 dpads.

[Anonymous No.7977172]

>>7977153
You can get official MegaMan and MegaMan X collections on steam and all modern platforms (except for mobile).

[Anonymous No.7977179]

>>7975424
After playing them side by side to the games on an NES/SNES, the anniversary collection (I can't speak for the X Collection) has really, REALLY fucking bad input delay. Which is wierd because it wasn't outsourced, Capcom made the classic collection internally and Capcom at least mechanically tends to make good games when they're internally working on them.

>>7976495
While true, the steam versions of these games have significantly less input lag by comparison so if you have to get a port, get the modern pc ports.

[Anonymous No.7977185]

>>7977179
You adapt to the lag though. I was able to beat MegaMan X3 on the switch with a 8bitdo controller.

[Anonymous No.7977291]

>>7977179
Street Fighter Anthology on PS2 was also done in-house by Capcom and it plays terribly so there's precedent

[Anonymous No.7977315]

>>7977179
PS2/GC Anniversary Collection is outsourced to Atomic Planet Entertainment and it was very ugly as a collection.

[Anonymous No.7977375]

>>7977315
It was? Wierd, I must've been thinking of >>7977291 then which also had bad input lag on top of looking like ass.

[Anonymous No.7977519]

>>7976946
these are cheap to collect iirc

[Anonymous No.7977537]

>>7975460
That’s entirely because it was ported to GBA. A lot of collections from this era suffered because the put SNES era titles as GBA ports

[Anonymous No.7977638]

>>7976946
How the fuck are you just going to slap an arranged soundtrack on an 8 bit game? This is a disaster
>>7977153
>the switch online service has the snes and nes games it does
Man we don't even have all the Nintendo classics there, let alone stuff like Ninja Gaiden 2 and 3. I mean at least there are some good collections available for purchase like Contra, Mega Man and Castlevania but this shit still sucks balls. Fuck Nintendo for doing this honestly

[Anonymous No.7979354]

>>7975424
Not even gonna bother reading this thread because people on 4chan are complete fucking retards and contrarian faggots when it comes to Mega Man. OP, take it from me, I've been playing Mega Man since I was a kid and I played both of these collections when I was a teen.
The Anniversary Collection is based off the Japan-only Rockman Complete Works releases for the Playstation, and it's only really worth playing if you want to experience the translated navigator lines and a few remixed songs. They botched the ending of Mega Man 7 because they couldn't properly emulate the Mode 7 effects. It also includes the two arcade games if that matters to you. Not worth playing unless, again, you want to try the navi mode in Mega Man 1-6.
The X Collection is decently emulated. Mega Man X3 is the Playstation version, and it also includes the only official American release of Battle & Chase as an unlockable bonus, so it is worth playing if only for those two things.
All in all, however, I'd recommend just emulating the games or buying the Legacy Collections. The Classic Legacy Collections are way more faithfully emulated and also include MM9 and 10, which are otherwise only available on Xbox 360 and PS3. The old X Collection isn't that bad so you can stick it with if you want, but the new Legacy Collections do have better emulation, and I'm pretty sure X7 and X8 are ported as opposed to emulated. Could be wrong, though.

[Anonymous No.7979613]

I thought the Metal Slug Anthology for the PS2 was just great

[Anonymous No.7979812]

>>7975449
Controls are only an issue on the gamecube release.

[Anonymous No.7979845]

>>7975424
Megaman X PS2 collection is the best way to play the games. It looks the same as the original PS1 games, and it removes the the slowdown from the SNES games. I hear the regular Mega Man Anni collection has worse image quality. The Gamecube ones have worse image quality than the PS2 versions.

[Anonymous No.7979854]

>>7975424
They have input lag.

[Anonymous No.7979887]

>>7975424
I can only speak to Mega Man Anniversary collection, I never played the MMX one. The PS2 and Gamecube versions have different extra content, while the Xbox version has all the content from both versions. Stay far away from the Gamecube version, they reversed the jump and shoot buttons and they can't be remapped.

In short, Xbox > PS2 >>>>>>> Gamecube

The Legacy Collections split the games up to milk more money.

[Anonymous No.7979924]

>>7976464
I feel like a bunch of these should've been bonus games in the current collections we already got, that would've avoided this issue

[Anonymous No.7979934]

>>7975424
They're great but you should really play the Gamecube versions.

[Anonymous No.7979969]

>>7979354
>The Classic Legacy Collections are way more faithfully emulated and also include MM9 and 10, which are otherwise only available on Xbox 360 and PS3.
Unfortunately they fucked up MM9 and 10 in the Legacy Collection by using the wrong resolution. It's super easy to tell, too, because all you have to do is look at the lifebar. What makes it especially annoying is this is the only physical release those games ever had.

[Anonymous No.7980168]

>>7979969
>this is the only physical release those games ever had
Not a problem man, if you are a collector you can chill, Legacy Collection 2 is download only. Just download the WiiWare versions of 9 and 10 and play them on Dolphin

[Anonymous No.7980258]

>>7976252
>that fucking feel
Made a good German friend talking about this on the GameFAQS message board for it back in 2005, though.

[Anonymous No.7980292]

>>7975424
explain in full detail how thinking swapping a and b for controls, not including & Bass and playing nes games on an analog stick is bad correlates to autistic behaviour.