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What was the general reaction when Sega announced they were discontinuing the Dreamcast and exiting the console market? Were people shocked, or did they already see it coming for a long time? Were people upset, did they view it as a tragedy of gaming? Were there Sega shills in tears and Nintendo/Sony shills gloating on online forums?

>> No.7974353

It was well understood. Even media outlets which usually function as advertising arms of the industry in general, was admitting that it was up to the last few hits to save the system before the PS2 released.

>> No.7974357

Everyone knew it was coming before the Dreamcast even came out. The main news surrounding it was that Microsoft might buy them.

>> No.7974373
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7974373

You know how "the 90s" ended on 1/1/2000, but people say the spirit of the 90s died on 9/11/2001 (at least in USA)?
I felt the same here. That OG era of gaming was dead and then:
The super rich corporations with no history in the arcades or 80s in general who were doing gaming as a side hobby (Sony and Microsoft) took over the home market.
Nintendo was relegated to handhelds and casual shit like the Wii.

That was it. And from that point forward there's been nobody to shake up the scene. It's been Sony, Microsoft, 'ntendo, and PC for over two decades. Maybe VR headsets will pop off one day. Oh well, it's always 9/9/99 in my heart

>> No.7974397

>>7974331
>What was the general reaction when Sega announced they were discontinuing the Dreamcast and exiting the console market?
nobody was surprised. 32x and saturn (both sold poorly in countries where sega had a lot of dedicated customers) was the beginning of the end for Sega's console division.

>>7974373
>but people say the spirit of the 90s died on 9/11/2001 (at least in USA)?
nah, that's revisionist history nonsense.

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>>7974331
>What was the general reaction when Sega announced they were discontinuing the Dreamcast and exiting the console market?
Mega lolz. Fuck segatards.

>> No.7974414

There were rumors weeks earlier that Sega would pull the plug, so the official announcement wasn't a surprise (but still a kick in the gut)

I don't remember other fanboys dunking on Sega, if anything Nintendo fans were more hostile at Sony because they considered Nintendo the last "real" gaming company remaining

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>>7974397
>nah, that's revisionist history nonsense.
No, IRL that fucking killed it right dead. Online was a different matter though. That's kinda what made the interbutz so rad.

>> No.7974454

>>7974423
i was in my 20s when 9/11 happened, so I have a completely different perspective of it, and the years that followed.

>> No.7974464

how many times can you have this thread? i mean how hasn't this topic been beaten to absolute death?
>what was the reaction when sega stopped making consoles

>> No.7974479

>>7974454
I was in my early teens. My entire schoolday collapsed as half my classmates were yanked home by the parental units.

>> No.7974491

>>7974479
>My entire schoolday collapsed as half my classmates were yanked home by the parental units.
can understand why. was a concerning time, nobody knew what was going to happen next. i was drinking beer in the city and taken some women i met home so i could get some sex, and soon as we entered into the house, her mother said: "LOOK AT THE TV! AMERICA IS BEING ATTACKED" - then not long later we watched the second tower fall down. one thing that stuck with me the entire time this woman said to me:
> looks like gw bush's saudi friends have got some revenge!
highly accurate prediction, and chilling, as we later found that most of the hijackers were saudi.

>> No.7974505

>>7974397
>nah, that's revisionist history nonsense.
Security at airports and buildings were more relaxed pre-9/11, that's a fact. People's general attitudes were arguably/anecdotally more relaxed. It marked the beginning of US media agitating the public by treating every little headline like it's the end of the world

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I remember all the news outlets calling 9/11 the biggest disaster in US history or whatever, guess they all forgot about the Saturn launch

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Sega system.

>> No.7974586 [DELETED] 

>>7974563
Medications.

>> No.7974593

>>7974505
To be fair, we got a wonderful little preview of shit to come with the Oklahoma City bombing.

>> No.7974783

>>7974331
The entire industry was still in flux and nobody knew what the future really looked like. So it sucked but everyone was still looking forward to next gen. Now there are established players and breaking in is incredibly hard. And it's all the same shit.

>> No.7975379

>>7974331
>reaction
I felt betrayed.

>> No.7975384 [DELETED] 

>>7974586
There is no medication for NPD induced psychosis.

>> No.7975395

>>7974331
It was heartbreaking, but not shocking. It'd been obvious since the Dreamcast launched that Sega was in trouble, but fans were hoping they'd pull through regardless, which unfortunately wasn't meant to be.

>> No.7975396

>>7974505
>It marked the beginning of US media agitating the public by treating every little headline like it's the end of the world
You have a very low IQ, anon. This has always been the case, since the dawn of the newspaper.

>> No.7975418

>>7974373
>>7974783
It's weird how different these companies are today compared to 20 years ago.

>MS in 2001
Most people skeptical about the Xbox despite its powerful hardware, Sega fans were hoping they'd worked something out with Sega to make the Xbox backwards-compatible with Dreamcast (which allegedly almost happened) but didn't.
>MS in 2021
Virtually-irrelevant as a console manufacturer, frequently flirting with the idea of gradually transitioning into software-only with Xbox as a "service" rather than "hardware" brand.

>Sony in 2001
Doing gangbusters in both Japan and US, the once-newcomer is now a force to be reckoned with and the dominating leader of the market.
>Sony in 2021
Still the market leader, but entirely fallen from grace in the eyes of the Japanese and hardcore/niche audience after turning into a Western company run by sanctimonius Californian communist cunts. Merely kept afloat by ignorant dipshit normalfags.

>Nintendo in 2001
Well-respected, but arguably struggling to stay relevant and shake their "kiddy" stigma that had persisted since the early SNES era. The Gamecube's goofy, toyetic design didn't help matters despite its impressive hardware and game lineup.
>Nintendo in 2021
Doing very well and leading the market in Japan, but also generally not well-liked by the hardcore due to cynical business practices, antagonistic stance on their fanbase, and negligent handling of widespread hardware failure in their overpriced controllers.

>Sega in 2001
Very uncertain future following the discontinuation of the Dreamcast, but still very relevant in the eyes of the hardcore.
>Sega in 2021
Virtually irrelevant with the exception of the Yakuza franchise, coasting on re-releases of the same handful of decade-old games, the popularity of Atlus RPG's since they now own them. No one even really gives a shit about Sonic anymore.

>> No.7975425

>>7974331
People were happy because they thought it would mean Sega would focus on making really good games instead of competing in the hardware market. They thought Sega would be like Capcom or Namco.

>> No.7975596

>>7974491
>this woman said to me
next time you lie at least make it believable faggot

>> No.7975620

>>7974331
The general reaction was nothing because most people didn't know or care.

>> No.7975691

>>7974397
It's hindsight, not revisionist history.

>> No.7977383

>>7974464
On any given week there are at least 2-6 threads up of segafags reminiscing about how revolutionary the dreamcast was (according to them) and how we would all live in a better world if sega still made consoles. Add to that another 2-6 threads of segafags praising some shitty dreamcast game like Sonic adventure or Crazy Taxi. It's pathetic.

>> No.7977390

>>7974397
9/11 killed off the optimist view of the future that the world had throughout the 90's and replaced it with fear and caution. You were not alive to see it, were you?

>> No.7977393

>>7975395
>It was heartbreaking.
holy fucking shit this is pathetic. Sega was a giant fucking corporation for fuck's sake, not somebody's mom dying of cancer. Do you realize how fucking cringe it is to refer to a corporation making a business decision as "heartbreaking"?

>> No.7977498

No one knew

>> No.7977532

>>7974464
>he says on a forum dedicated to discussing 14+ year old video games

>> No.7977548

Like a family member died

>> No.7977560

>>7977548
This is the typical segafaggot that just wants a (you).
You saw this post: >>7977393
and thought you'd do some "ebbin trollin xd".

>> No.7979028

>>7974414
This is the most accurate post itt

>> No.7979106

>What was the general reaction when Sega announced they were discontinuing the Dreamcast and exiting the console market? Were people shocked, or did they already see it coming for a long time?
Both simultaneously, if that makes any sense. On one hand, everyone knew Sega's consoles weren't doing well, but on the other it was still surreal to see it actually happen.
>Were people upset, did they view it as a tragedy of gaming? Were there Sega shills in tears and Nintendo/Sony shills gloating on online forums?
You better believe Gamefaqs was swarming with console war bullshit. Before Sonic Adventure 2 Battle was announced, there was also a lot of discussion about whether Nintendo was actually going to allow Sonic on their console or if the Xbox was going to become the de-facto Dreamcast substitute.

>> No.7979126

>>7974331
I managed to get only the great DC games (Shenmue, SA2, Grandia 2, Skies of Arcadia, MvC2, etc) so I was confused as to why it was dying. It was not until much later where I realized the rest of the games are not so great.

>> No.7979762

>>7974331
>Were people shocked, or did they already see it coming for a long time?
Their only successful console was the Genesis. It wasn't too shocking that they would stop after their... hmm Game Gear, CD, 32X, Saturn, Dreamcast - fifth failure in a row.

>> No.7979893

>>7977390
no. 25 years old on 9/11 - not born? ok. babies are born at the age of 40 these days? consider suicide, you retarded zoomy zoomzoom.
>>7975691
revisionist history. imagine trying to defend the compulsive lying of delusional morons of this board full of failures? amazing stuff.

>> No.7980071

>>7974373
if anything, VR headsets will make things worse. they're headed up by more cancerous companies than MS and Sony, who at least made real world products that were useful in some ways.

>> No.7980486

Damn that sucks.. *plays sh2 on ps2*

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>>7974331
Very shocking moment. I have mIRC logs from vydia DALnet channels from the aftermath of that very day. Very heated dicusssions, with of course, the usual racist and homophobic insults.

>> No.7980659

I'm pretty sure I found out when i went to the store and the entire Dreamcast section was gone. Even as a Dreamcast owner, I dont think i had any strong feelings about it. Maybe its because I was in middle school and thought it just increased my chances of getting a PS2 (it did).

>> No.7980675

>>7980601
>DALnet
No surprise they acted like a bunch of lamers lmao

>> No.7980676

>>7980601
>racist and homophobic insults.

based

>> No.7980683

>>7980601
>dispose of 2m unsold consoles
what did they do with them?

>> No.7980696

>>7980683
Discounted them until they were like $50.

>> No.7980705

>>7980601
>DALnet
Were these the fags who banned all warez channels on their network?

>> No.7980707

>>7980705
Kinda doubt it but the only good warez I ever got on DALnet were Pokemon episodes. All the good console piracy channels I found were on EFnet. That's also where I got all my music, movies, and PC shit.

>> No.7980709

>>7979893
You're either lying about your age or severely retarded.

>> No.7980713

>>7980683
Turned them into dental equipment.

>> No.7981026

>>7974331
>Were people shocked
yes
>did they already see it coming for a long time?
yes
>Were people upset
yes
>did they view it as a tragedy of gaming?
yes
>Were there Sega shills in tears and Nintendo/Sony shills gloating on online forums?
yes

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>>7974331
Kind of a bummer, but everyone knew it was inevitable. Sega's foray into home consoles was always moreso a side thing anyway, they merely caught lightning in a bottle with the Genesis/Megadrive

>> No.7982331

>>7980486
Thank you for contributing to the death of videogames, Sonycuck.

>> No.7983668

>>7974331
We all knew it was coming, and as a diehard Sega fan I really hated that it was something that might happen. It didn't help that between the Japanese launch and the US launch, most US video game sites and gaming magazines were referring to the Sega Dreamcast as "Sega's swan song". Even after launch there was some aversion to buying the system because the PS2 is coming.

In all honesty, I had a feeling it would happen. A bit after the Dreamcast launch Sonic was released on NeoGeo Pocket, and I think sometime in 2000 Sega announced they were developing for Game Boy Color and other mobile devices. Still it was quite sad. I remember the Dreamcast discontinuation announcement putting a damper on the PSO launch.

>> No.7983882 [DELETED] 

Uh I was told to remind you all that the real name for the Sega Master System was originally the "SEGA System". Is this the right place for that or what.

>> No.7985498

>>7974331
People were excited to play Sega games on other systems.

Then they all flopped except for Sonic, Monkey Ball and 2k Sports. 2K Sports was sold off and Sega had to resort in milking Sonic for survival, hence his decline in quality.

>> No.7985596

>>7980601
dude post em

>> No.7986296

>>7974397
>revisionist history

Zoomer detected. He's 100 percent right.

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>>7974331
It was kind of expected at the time. I quit video games a bit after, primarily due to a lack of funds, but it did give me a decent reason demonstrating that the kinds of games I like are not favored by the rest of the world. Imagine like watching someone pass away in hospice, you know it was inevitable, and they did get replaced by a better company, so video games are in a better place, but I still enjoyed my time with Sega consoles.

>> No.7988439

>>7988419
The announcement sucked, but the post-DC years were perfectly fine, it received quality software until 2002, and current arcade ports until 2005 or so, then budget/indie support onward. It really kills me that my DC and library are gone, I collected most of the games in that pic and then some