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Anonymous Tue Jul 20 22:47:47 2021 No.7965826 [Reply] [Original]

Why do most CRT filters look like ass? Pic related

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 20 22:48:12 2021 No.7965827 >>7965826 too much emphasis on scanlines

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 20 22:49:13 2021 No.7965829 Because CRT filters are a meme.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 20 22:50:57 2021 No.7965838 >>7965826 zoomies too busy obsessing over muh scanlines or distortion or phospor or whatever instead of focusing on making NTSC composite artifacts and making them right

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 20 22:59:19 2021 No.7965868 >>7965826 most of the popular CRT TVs looks like shit

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 20 23:06:03 2021 No.7965889 >>7965868 faggot

Anonymous Tue Jul 20 23:07:28 2021 No.7965895
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>>7965826
The people who use them, as well as the people who make them, have either never used a CRT or haven't used one in over 15 years and the last time they used one they were playing Gamecube or PS2 and they forgot what retro games actually looked like.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 20 23:12:43 2021 No.7965913 >>7965826 1080p

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 20 23:23:46 2021 No.7965948 >>7965895 But they already look like right if you want them to

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 20 23:24:30 2021 No.7965950 >>7965948 Post one. You can't.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 20 23:27:11 2021 No.7965959 >>7965948 Would you mind explaining how? I play from real hardware on a modern TV and I would love to give them that classic look.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 20 23:28:58 2021 No.7965965 >>7965950 >>7965959 I will post some when I’m at my computer

Anonymous Tue Jul 20 23:31:52 2021 No.7965970

>>7965826
Fundamentally CRT filters make the image objectively worse, therefore even if a CRT filter was 100% perfect it would still look like ass by definition. It is impossible to emulate badness, because objectively even a perfect emulator will still be bad. Only a real CRT can is capable of displaying a CRT like image without being bad.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 20 23:32:04 2021 No.7965971 >>7965965 When will that be

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 20 23:59:56 2021 No.7966017 >>7965971 soon

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 21 00:07:00 2021 No.7966035 >>7965895 just play the indie game on a crt you fucking autist

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 21 00:13:06 2021 No.7966043 >>7965826 because you don't know how to configure them

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 21 00:14:24 2021 No.7966048 >>7965895 It's the other way around. Good CRT filters look like actual CRTs instead of the way people remember them in their minds. The other thing is there are dozens of types of CRTs and people think the one they owned as a kid is the only kind.

Anonymous Wed Jul 21 00:19:14 2021 No.7966054

>>7966035
>play the indie game
Which one? I don't play indie games, they're usually shit.

>on a crt
I don't have one and I don't want one.

>>7966048
>Good CRT filters look like actual CRTs
Show me some. And if they're good, teach me how I can do it with real hardware.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 21 00:20:16 2021 No.7966058 >>7966054 What monitor specs will you be viewing them on?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 21 00:22:42 2021 No.7966060 >>7966058 1080p television. I hook my consoles in through composite because I'm a monster.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 21 00:27:40 2021 No.7966070 >>7966060 Do you have a computer with a decent GPU connected to your television? Do you know how to use RetroArch? Do you have your television set to 1:1 pixel mapping? (this will be labeled as something like "screen fit")

Anonymous Wed Jul 21 00:30:41 2021 No.7966079

>>7966070
>Do you have a computer with a decent GPU connected to your television?
No
>Do you know how to use RetroArch?
Yes, but I don't like playing through emulators.
>Do you have your television set to 1:1 pixel mapping? (this will be labeled as something like "screen fit")
I have no idea.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 21 00:38:24 2021 No.7966103 >>7966079 Until you can do that then you're not really ready to start trying CRT shaders.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 21 00:42:26 2021 No.7966112 >>7966103 >Until you can use an emulator No thanks.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 21 00:46:58 2021 No.7966117 >>7966112 If you're going to use real hardware you should get a CRT at least. Don't use RAW composite on a LCD. You're cheating yourself out of seeing virtual details the nature of a CRT screen or shader can provide.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 21 00:50:40 2021 No.7966125 >>7966117 I don't have space for a CRT and I don't feel like dealing with it when the tube dies. Plus I would have to pay to throw it out.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 21 02:13:51 2021 No.7966341 File: 105 KB, 406x285, Zelda II - The Adventure of Link.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7965965 these are taken off 1440p bear in mind so if you can see it zoomed in too far you lose the effect

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 21 02:14:57 2021 No.7966345 File: 2.59 MB, 1758x1440, Zelda II - The Adventure of Link 2.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7966341

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 21 02:17:15 2021 No.7966350 File: 1.83 MB, 1758x1440, Super Mario Bros.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7966345

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 21 03:28:03 2021 No.7966435 >>7966350 what shader this is

Anonymous Wed Jul 21 03:32:39 2021 No.7966441

I use zsnes because of the rewind button but god damn do the scan lines look like shit.

Does anyone know a snes emulator with a good crt filter and a rewind button? This button just skips back 4 seconds like a savestate but doesn't require you to a manually save those states, it's just automatic. It's a real life saver for games with insta-death.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 21 04:39:36 2021 No.7966520 File: 1.35 MB, 1280x960, 433.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Behold >>7966441 Retroarch with Snes9x or bsnes, don't know if they have a rewind feature standalone

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 21 09:35:59 2021 No.7966875 File: 314 KB, 750x250, m slug 1080p.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7966043 I think it's mostly this. Once you know your way around them, you can do some interesting things.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 21 10:36:24 2021 No.7966959 >>7966435 Crt dr venom 2 with some messing around in the parameters

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 21 14:11:33 2021 No.7967416 File: 3.46 MB, 1460x1080, composite 1.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 21 14:12:53 2021 No.7967421 File: 2.45 MB, 1600x1080, composite 2.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7967416

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 21 14:14:14 2021 No.7967425 File: 3.16 MB, 1600x1080, composite 3.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7967421

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 21 14:36:13 2021 No.7967481 >>7966035 Who said anything about indie games, you schizo?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 21 14:38:59 2021 No.7967489 >>7965829 Buy PC and ultra HD monitor to play old console games in "Vaseline Mode".

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 21 14:40:21 2021 No.7967494 >>7966441 >Does anyone know a snes emulator with a good crt filter and a rewind button? It's called 'git gud'

Anonymous Wed Jul 21 14:42:37 2021 No.7967498
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>>7967481
Not that anon, but I suppose he's referring to the image that anon he was responding to posted.
>>7967489
Usually you would buy the PC for other things. Emulating is just a happy side benefit.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 21 15:05:48 2021 No.7967549 >>7967494 Nah go duck yourself

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 21 15:27:54 2021 No.7967610 >>7966125 It’s not like CRTs exist in only fuckhueg 30” 100+ pound formats, there also exist smaller 13” ones.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 21 15:29:56 2021 No.7967615 >>7965970 most do but not objectively

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 21 15:31:54 2021 No.7967620 >>7967416 >>7967421 >>7967425 these look more like a shitty image of a crt screen

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 21 15:36:43 2021 No.7967634 >>7967498 Supersampling is basically AA but blurrier.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 21 15:37:49 2021 No.7967638 >>7967634 Back away to a normal viewing distance and compare the swords. It's a pretty stark difference.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 21 15:47:16 2021 No.7967664 File: 3.60 MB, 1600x1080, rgb.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7966875 Bigger version of the middle one with slightly different offsets.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 21 16:14:52 2021 No.7967729 File: 21 KB, 256x251, 1606016564541.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >that single CRT filter doesn't match my specific consumer 14" CRT with the specific default cable I had >therefore CRT filters bad

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 21 16:14:57 2021 No.7967730 >>7967638 I dont think you even need to back away that far, even on a 1080p monitor there's a good enough difference with the swords and arguably the background looks smoothed over

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 21 16:23:25 2021 No.7967752 File: 3.01 MB, 2476x3456, IMG_20210114_223317.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I prefer my consumer CRT with RGB

Anonymous Wed Jul 21 16:27:34 2021 No.7967769
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>>7967729sage
I find that to be a perfectly valid reason from a personal perspective if they were chasing some very specific childhood nostalgia. If you like filters, that's okay. If you hate filters, that's okay too. As long as you're having fun with your vidya, that works for me.

>>7967752
That's a very pretty set, anon. Do you by chance have any shots of 3d playstation games?

Anonymous Wed Jul 21 16:33:35 2021 No.7967785

>>7965826
The usual pitfalls:
>too dark, especially noticeable on whites
>too blurry
>too much or not enough halation or nearby color saturation
>uneven scanlines
With 4K+ OLED and royale tweaked they look acceptable. Not replacement tier, but pretty good and far better than a raw image. They also don't particularly screenshot well because the scanlines will look like dogshit processed at a different resolution

Anonymous Wed Jul 21 16:34:34 2021 No.7967789

I wonder how many more years it will take people to realize the varying luminance of pixels on a CRT are an integral part of the graphics?

On a CRT a dark colored pixel is a little blob. And a bright colored pixel is a big blob.

But on a LCD every pixel is a little square regardless of luminance. This creates jaggy effects and wipes away subtle details. Metallic objects in particular lose their gradations in tone and gain harsh cut-offs instead.

If you're playing a /vr/ era game without any filtering on a LCD you're effectively lowering the game's resolution and taking away several graphical effects. Akin in a way to playing a PC game on lowest settings with lower resolution.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 21 16:37:10 2021 No.7967803 >>7967498 Supersampling + CRT shading is indeed based. Also looks good on an actual CRT.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 21 16:40:08 2021 No.7967806 File: 2.58 MB, 1300x1073, Screenshot from 2021-07-21 14-39-08.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7965826 >>7965895

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 21 16:41:44 2021 No.7967812 >>7967806 nn-n-no! this isnt what my sony diarrheatron 30000 i bought from ebay with my college tuition looks like! you need to use RGB! the scanlines arent visible enough! nooooooooooooo!!!!!

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 21 16:43:37 2021 No.7967818 >>7967806 What CRT is this? Why is your filename a screenshot? This couldn't be a shader could it?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 21 16:44:53 2021 No.7967820 File: 3.92 MB, 4032x3024, smb composite with canon blue skies.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7967806 Tiny CRT gang. >>7967812 Based composite enjoyer.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 21 16:45:54 2021 No.7967825 >>7967806 This is something like what people who say "my TV didn't have scanlines when I was a kid" were looking at. And yet right there plain as day you can see them. They're just not meme scanlines.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 21 16:47:39 2021 No.7967830 >>7967820 woah thats super nice! maximum soul

Anonymous Wed Jul 21 16:47:59 2021 No.7967831

>>7967789
Anon... CRTs just make everything blurry. Squint your eyes or sit farther away or lower the LCD's resolution.

CRTs aren't magic, it's just your brain filling in blanks to rectify shitty visual clarity. This is visual art 101.

Retro devs didn't get together and decide to organize pixels based on the CRT's shitty resolution. Some made shit that worked and a lot put out straight garbage.
CRTs/blur don't make shitty art better, they just help you think about it less.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 21 16:48:01 2021 No.7967832 >>7967820 That looks like my Wii when I connect it to my 13" CRT. It looks too clean to be a real NES. Maybe an AV Famicom idk

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 21 16:48:14 2021 No.7967835 >>7967664 Middle one is shit though. Right one rules. Post the right one in full.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 21 16:48:28 2021 No.7967836 >>7967825 You can see them because it's a static image. The fucking scanlines flicker 60 times a second and you don't see them in motion. That's what interlacing is. People talk about memelines yet they don't know how a CRT works.

Anonymous Wed Jul 21 16:49:45 2021 No.7967838

>>7967831
>CRTs just make everything blurry.
No, they don't.
>Retro devs didn't get together and decide to organize pixels based on the CRT's shitty resolution.
Yes, they literally did. There are quotes from retro developers specifically talking about this.
Lurk more.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 21 16:51:09 2021 No.7967841 >>7967836 Do you even know what the p in 240p stands for? >People talk about memelines yet they don't know how a CRT works. Ironic.

Anonymous Wed Jul 21 16:56:06 2021 No.7967861
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>>7967831
>Retro devs didn't get together and decide to organize pixels based on the CRT's shitty resolution
Some did, I'll post an example after this.
>>7967835
Still a work in progress, but I think it's an improvement over the default royale presets at 1080p.
>>7967836
Progressive scan doesn't have interlaced flickering, anon.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 21 16:57:48 2021 No.7967863 >>7966043 fpbp

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 21 16:58:27 2021 No.7967864 >>7967820 now THAT is what i'm talking about, scrumptious

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 21 17:00:09 2021 No.7967867 File: 679 KB, 1563x1600, Cuvjmv-XYAAlC1u.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7967861 settings please

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 21 17:01:25 2021 No.7967870 >>7967841 PENIS because retro game devs LOVE. COCK!

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 21 17:08:36 2021 No.7967884 File: 3.74 MB, 2272x2422, IMG_20210721_225618__01__01__01.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7967769 Here you go but my ps1 is PAL unmodded so I have problems taking a pic with the 50hz flickering

Anonymous Wed Jul 21 17:10:17 2021 No.7967887
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>>7967831
Here's a good example. Compare this, to >>7967421 . It's pretty cool how they were able to achieve smooth color gradients.
>>7967884
Thanks anon, I know how much of a bitch it is to get good shots of a CRT. It still looks good!

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 21 17:11:53 2021 No.7967894 >>7967838 >No, they don't I see... you're 100% delusional. Nothing anyone says will sway your desired narrative.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 21 17:12:07 2021 No.7967896 >>7967887 Re: Carmack He's not an artist. And I don't think he even plays video games very much. He's a programmer.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 21 17:13:46 2021 No.7967903 >>7967887 It's BLURRIER you dense fuck. Just squint your goddamn eyes on the images and watch them mAgIcAlLy smooth out.

Anonymous Wed Jul 21 17:14:45 2021 No.7967908

>>7967894
I see... you're an idiot who doesn't know what he's talking about or just wants to troll the thread.

CRTs are limited by their mask type. As long as you don't go above the ability of the mask to resolve the resolution you will not blur the image.
Blur which comes from signal quality is a completely different issue.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 21 17:15:47 2021 No.7967914 >>7967903 The amount of squinting I need to do to get it sort of blended is really uncomfortable versus just slapping on a filter, but hey, who am I to judge.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 21 17:15:54 2021 No.7967917 >>7967903 You know what's smooth? Your brain.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 21 17:16:20 2021 No.7967918 >>7966959 it's a miff to set goddammit

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 21 17:16:29 2021 No.7967919 >>7967887 Thanks, for RGB on the ps1 I fell for the packapunch cable meme and I'm actually very happy with it, it even has guncon support

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 21 17:17:15 2021 No.7967921 >>7967903 Even standing across the room and squinting the image does not properly blend for me. Maybe you should see an eye doctor.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 21 17:25:11 2021 No.7967939 >>7967908 No amount of CRT specs humping will disguise your inability to properly define "blur." Half you fuckers bitch that LCDs make the image TOO clear, but when anyone mentions CRTs have a less clear image you chimps go bananas.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 21 17:26:43 2021 No.7967946 >>7967921 >standing farther away AND squinting >can't see shit You're an idiot.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 21 19:00:51 2021 No.7968215 >>7967939 What would it take to get you to realize you are in error?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 21 19:18:38 2021 No.7968262 >>7966054 >Which one? Hyper Light Drifter, Blazing Chrome, Katana Zero, Loop Hero, Xeno Crisis, Tanglewood, Shovel Knight, Paprium, River City Girls, Blasphemous, Freedom Planet, Battle Ax. All pixel indieshit for you to test out.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 21 19:22:33 2021 No.7968274 File: 3.87 MB, 3264x2448, E0E5099E-FA54-4A18-823F-142C2098DBCF.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7967836 Mate, no That’s not how 240p works

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 21 19:48:45 2021 No.7968326 >>7965827 This

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 21 20:41:51 2021 No.7968423 >>7967818 It's probably a shader + overlay, Retroarch allows you to be super autistic about these things

Anonymous Wed Jul 21 21:00:32 2021 No.7968460

IDK why preferring to play on a CRT is such a hard concept for some people go grasp. The art in these games were never meant to be displayed on an LCD, so game artists did their work on CRT. There's some visual affects that just don't work on LCD, even if it wasn't intentional by the dev. Its like how scanned in paintings arent the same as seeing a painting in real life, because you can't see the thickness and sheen on the paint (which are often used intentionally to create extra depth)

Anonymous Wed Jul 21 21:13:29 2021 No.7968478
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This image probably does the best explaining the appeal of using CRT. Notice that older games often use harsh color contrasts even when there aren't hardware limitations, because the display will wash the image out.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 21 21:46:39 2021 No.7968534 File: 326 KB, 360x480, slug.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7968478 I like a happy medium between the two.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 21 21:53:26 2021 No.7968558 >>7968534 Is that royale?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 21 21:55:10 2021 No.7968562 >>7968558 Royale at 1080p, yes.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 21 21:57:21 2021 No.7968564 >>7968534 S-video and composite should not be that hazy. That would be corrected by the user by adjusting the contrast.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 21 22:02:37 2021 No.7968576 >>7966345 That looks pretty darn good. My only problem with crt filters is they're too even, and dark. Nothing looks bright on them.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 21 22:12:55 2021 No.7968595 >>7967939 >call someone delusional while only addressing half his points >lol u mad?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 21 22:16:05 2021 No.7968608 >>7968478 I've never seen a crt that wasn't dying wash out color that badly.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 21 22:17:39 2021 No.7968613 File: 124 KB, 1600x1080, carmack.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7968576 Usually you do lose brightness, but you don't need to. Quick comparison.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 21 22:19:15 2021 No.7968617 File: 3.98 MB, 1560x1080, slug.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7968576 >>7968613 Should look pretty decent at normal viewing distances.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 21 22:26:46 2021 No.7968637 >>7968576 You need a display with higher nits rating

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 21 22:40:10 2021 No.7968665 File: 1.28 MB, 1169x891, crtgeom.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] i just combine crt-geom with a ntsc filter

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 21 23:06:01 2021 No.7968725 >>7968576 that darkness is adjusted to my monitor, there is a setting in the parameters that adjusts simulated gamma with actual gamma to fix brightness

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 21 23:31:46 2021 No.7968787 File: 21 KB, 461x349, 4wlm5c.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7967806 >>7967820

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 22 00:03:35 2021 No.7968849 File: 1.24 MB, 1920x672, Mega Turrican-210722-010013.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 22 01:36:59 2021 No.7969000 File: 529 KB, 1734x1009, 1617982048684.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7967887 some tweet this at him

Anonymous Thu Jul 22 03:11:00 2021 No.7969123

>>7965895
Best part of this post is that original image is a throwaway joke made by someone going max autism with a CRT shader they were testing. People use it unironically and unaware. No CRT is involved in the image and it gets used again and again. CRT visuals are completely replicated in shaders and people use images made by these shaders to prove that shaders can't do what shaders already do. Clownshoes.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 22 03:14:07 2021 No.7969127 >>7965826 I actually think there is a place for CRT filters that emulate specific faults that old TVs could develop. That has to be nostalgic for someone, right?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 22 03:15:44 2021 No.7969130 >>7969123 >People use it unironically and unaware. No CRT is involved in the image and it gets used again and again wrong

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 22 03:38:29 2021 No.7969165 >>7966959 >with some messing around in the parameters I would really like to know those parameters, it's like looking at my childhood

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 22 03:54:11 2021 No.7969175 >>7969165 https://files.catbox.moe/eddmbi.slangp there you go mate, knock yourself out

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 22 04:03:00 2021 No.7969185 >>7969175 Thanks Anon

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 22 04:05:56 2021 No.7969191 File: 1.18 MB, 1436x951, unknown (55).png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Is GTU Pass 1 and 2 + CRT-aperture any good?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 22 04:07:57 2021 No.7969192 >>7967498 >Usually you would buy the PC for other things. Emulating is just a happy side benefit. Funny way of describing autism.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 22 04:15:19 2021 No.7969197 >>7969127 I had a tv with really terrible color bleed with red, so Mario looked like he was glowing.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 22 04:16:38 2021 No.7969202 File: 3.50 MB, 2390x1792, 1625989924274.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 22 04:20:02 2021 No.7969209 >>7967831 >CRTs just make everything blurry Bear in mind that the majority back in the day would be hooking their systems up to CRTs via RF or Composite.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 22 05:00:38 2021 No.7969250 >>7965826 Most of them are made by incompetent retards, blargg's or Maister NTSC are decent if you're on 1080p or lower, CRT-Royale works best on 4k

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 22 05:40:51 2021 No.7969303 File: 3.98 MB, 1460x1080, msx art test rgb.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Slightly cropped to fit under 4mb.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 22 05:52:28 2021 No.7969316 >>7966043 how do you actually figure out how to configure them though? Using retroarch and there are dozens of settings to adjust CRT-Royale and it's overwhelming

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 22 05:53:29 2021 No.7969317 >>7966520 What game? Looks soulful

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 22 06:16:49 2021 No.7969342 >>7969317 Guardian Heroes

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 22 06:25:08 2021 No.7969348 >>7968262 Some indie games might not work well on a CRT if they have inconsistent pixel resolutions, for instance River City Girls, the pixel positions feel unnatural

Anonymous Thu Jul 22 06:53:07 2021 No.7969378

>>7969317
It sure does.
>>7969342
Thanks anon, I'm familiar with very little of the saturn's library, and this both looks and plays pretty great. Posting the shot on /wg/ to avoid the file size limits.

Pushing royale to the limits of 1080p:
>>>/wg/7804311

Anonymous Thu Jul 22 08:55:32 2021 No.7969506

>>7965826

Because making pixel art more tolerable on HD displays is more about display gamma and dithering than scanlines or emulating analog technology.

If the idiots spending all their time on 50-pass CRT shaders would instead master an all-in-one gamma and dithering shader, that would be all she wrote.

The same fools that tell you CRT shaders won't be "fully accurate" until 8k are also the ones that tell you the ones that are out now are authentic-looking. So which is it?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 22 09:13:42 2021 No.7969531 File: 1.52 MB, 1045x1080, msx waifus 1080p edition.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 22 10:29:21 2021 No.7969640 File: 147 KB, 2029x1081, file.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] where is the damn download file button so i can get crt royale?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 22 11:23:54 2021 No.7969714 File: 298 KB, 1280x720, snapshot.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7969531 not convinced, the real deal is still better

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 22 11:32:48 2021 No.7969731 File: 2.13 MB, 3840x2160, B6E28129-C132-44FC-83DC-BBAB252FBA25.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 22 11:34:24 2021 No.7969736 >>7969714 Not convinced of what?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 22 11:43:55 2021 No.7969752 >>7969736 these crt filters

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 22 11:45:37 2021 No.7969753 File: 1.12 MB, 445x1072, msx.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7969752 You like what you like, that's perfectly okay.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 22 12:02:33 2021 No.7969795 >>7969753 What's that?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 22 12:03:00 2021 No.7969796 >>7969795 Royale, like the others.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 22 12:04:46 2021 No.7969797 Even if CRT filters don't look quite like the real thing, they look pretty tasteful when configured correctly, like >>7969531

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 22 13:19:00 2021 No.7969958 >>7968262 >Paprium How the fuck should I play this shit? It does not even work on all megadrives and emulation is not yet an option

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