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796353 No.796353 [Reply] [Original]

Is Fallout 2 a good game?

>> No.796365

Yes.
Fallout 1, 2, Tactics, and New Vegas are all good games.

>> No.796378
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>>796353

Not really, it's a great game, not Fallout 1 great but still great

>> No.796381

>>796365
>Tactics
No.

>> No.796386

>>796381

Yes.

>> No.796385

I wish fallout 1 & 2 got console releases.

There's something about playing retro games on retro consoles that make it fun, playing an old PC game just feels kind of ridiculous.

>> No.796403

>>796386
No.

>> No.796418

>>796378
>Is F2 good
>not really
>it's great

>> No.796432

>>796403
Well, it's more Fallout game than Fallout 3+NV, if that's somethings. The lore was somewhat meh, but the combat was pretty good compared to the old Fallouts, you can't deny that.

>> No.796448

>>796432
I will say it is fun, but it had tons of issues which really denies it the title of being a good game.

>> No.796647

yes it is, with fallout its the best pc games i ever played imho

>> No.796682
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796682

Story wise, Fallout 1 is better. It's more serious in its depiction of post-apocalypse and the story is more focused.

Gameplay wise, Fallout 2 is better. The interface has a number of improvements that you'll miss if you play 1 after 2, and the world has a lot more things to do in it. The narrative is less focused and has silly elements added in, which I was ok with because with the rise of the NCR, Vault City, and New Reno, the post-apocalypse isn't as bleak as it was in the first game.

Both games are worth playing.

>>796448
The only issues I had with Tactics is that it's story conflicts with Fallout 1 and 2 in spots. The story works in broad strokes, though. Otherwise, it's a good game.

New Vegas is also a good game because it actually feels like a sequel to Fallout 2. I still prefer the old turn based system, though.

Fallout 3 can go fuck itself, though.

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>>796353
Yes, though I personally prefer Fallout 1 for being more polished and presenting a more consistent setting.

>> No.796692

Yikes, I have only played Fallout 3 and I loved it. It gets a lot of hate from v and vr alike. Are there good torrents for 1 and 2 out? I suppose I could peruse ebay and craigslist and whatnot also.

>> No.796694

>>796692
Steam and GoG both sell Fallout 1 and 2 for pretty cheap.

>> No.796695

>>796353
Best Fallout.

>> No.796697

Fallout 1 and 2 are great games, but the graphics haven't aged well. The game looks like a lego playset by today's standards.

If you're a newschooler, it might take a couple hours for your eyes to get adjusted to retrovision.

>> No.797115

>>796385
Are you high?

>> No.797119 [DELETED] 

Fallout is the one game where you can be taken sexual abusedf based on your gender and intelligence.

>> No.797124

>>797123
You get raped in NV too.

>> No.797123

I like fallout 2 because you can get raped in it. No one seems to remember that, though.

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>>797124
Only if your bad.

>> No.797128

No. It's like Fallout 1, but worse balance and full of shitty "humor" that's not funny and ruins the atmosphere.

>> No.797139

>>797129
I thought he meant in dialog/story. Not as in, "you can get fucked pretty hard by enemies."

>> No.797147

>>797139
In dialog and story, yes, you can actually get raped in fallout 2 by someone if you are of low enough intelligence and are playing as a woman. You must be a woman for it to happen.

>> No.797152

>>797128
Who gives a shit about "balance" in singleplayer games? Some of the the most fun parts are discovering broken stuff and abusing it.

"Balanced" games are fucking boring.

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It's ok, but not as good as Fallout 1.

>> No.797517

>>796386

No.

>> No.797525
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797525

Aren't we forgetting something?

(can you still feel the rage?)

>> No.797534

>>796365
And 3, even though you were just trying to stir shit up to begin with.

>> No.798370

>>796353
masterpiece

>> No.799129

FO2 is great for replay since you can get a lot of good shit early on.

>beeline to San Fran
>do the BOS mission
>get the loot
>trawl around the outskirts for a while until you rake up cash selling weapons
>jack up all the skills
>do whatever

>> No.799160

>>796353

Fallout 2 is a great-beyond-belief game.

I've beaten it 4 or 5 times and still find new stuff every time I play it.

>he who the other side would see must answer me these questions three!

>> No.800440
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800440

Now, I'm not saying it's a bad game.
It's actually pretty ok as far as isometric rpgs go,
but it's far from being as great as Fallout 1 was.

>> No.800445

>>800440
>Rare encounters ruined the game for me.

Lighten up Francis.

>> No.800480

>>800445
Except they weren't rare. They were all over the place
and not even limited to special encounters.
There's pop culture references all over the place.
They're also not subtle and just one annyoing part of the "lolrandom" humor.

They were rare and more subtle in Fallout 1.

>> No.800490

>>800440
This. F2 is still a very good game. Not as good as F1, quality of content >>> quantity.

>> No.800501

>>800480
>San Francisco
>big trouble in little china!
>scientology!
>...also some actual content, I guess.

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>>797147
You can also be that Super Mutant's bitch in Broken Hills if you fail the arm wrestling, regardless of gender.

>> No.800508

>>800445
It's not the random encounters in particular I had a problem with.
It's the random, out-of-place humor that I didn't like.

It doesn't really feel like Fallout very much and they constantly need to remind that it's a Fallout game by referencing stuff from the original Fallout that had little meaning originally.

It's even more obvious in Fallout 3.
Nuka Cola for example was just a consumable item in F1 that you could buy for 3 caps.
Now it's one of the iconic flagship of the franchise.

Curiously though, they replaced the iconic bottlecaps currency with generic coins in F2.

>> No.800512

>>800508
>Curiously though, they replaced the iconic bottlecaps currency with generic coins in F2.
It's NCR money, same as in New Vegas.

>> No.800517

>>796353
Yes, after installing a lot of patchs and mods to fix the bugs.

>> No.800519

>>800512
Yeah sure. But why does everyone accept it?
Even the enemies of the NCR?

Would've made more sense to include both currencies.

>> No.800525

>>800519
True. Don't forget F2 was rushed. I'm surprised they made as much content with as little bugs as they did.

>> No.800526

>>800519
On that note. I liked how Tactics did it,
by having paper money for brotherhood and can-rings for tribals,
that weren't interchangable.

>> No.800695

I understand when people say that FO2 had a lot of "in your face" humour that isn't really THAT funny, but in almost every other aspect it's way better than FO1.

I'm not trying to be a faggot, but FO1 was a really unpolished, buggy game that felt too short and didn't really have those many places to explore. It's great, but FO2 improved it a lot.

>> No.800707

>>800695
I prefer a few places that are actually interesting over lot's of boring or annoying locations.
I also prefer a handful of nteresting characters that I actually care about over a bazillion uninteresting or annoying ones.

And the main plot was basically the same only with a horribly dull final boss.

The whole game is pretty dull actually.

It only has the royalty of being bigger and having more of everything, but it wasn't better in any regard except for the improved engine.

>> No.800738

It's a little like a mix between Fallout and Fallout 3.
It still somewhat feels like Fallout, but the atmosphere is wrong
and it kinda plays like a theme park filled with wacky shit that makes little or no sense.
Not a bad game by itself, but not a good Fallout game.

>> No.800756

>>800695
F3 is longer and has more places to explore than 2. Is it better?

>> No.800774

>>796353
I haven't quite yet played through the whole game, but it seems alright.
I still laugh at that one of the optional starters is named Narg.

>> No.800782

>>800695
FO1 was too short? Must be why I get bored and quit FO2 halfway through every fucking time. You can get sniper level 3 perk and bozar gauss minigun +2 if you grind long enough. Whoopty fucking doo.

>> No.800812

>>800707
That is all a matter of opinion. I find Fallout 1 more boring, and it's characters way more flat and uninteresting.

I played Fallout 2 first, so when I met Harold I was like "Whoa, who is this mysterious guy and what part is he going to play in this tale?". Then I played Fallout 1 and he was like some dude who got mutated in a military base and you don't hear much about that anymore and then he just gives you some tips if you're stuck if you give him some coins. Everything is little more one dimentional in FO1.

>>800756
Of course not, but we are comparing the first two games, and they play really similar. Fallout 3 was a complete departure from the formula.

>> No.800827

>>800812
I think your problem is that you played F2 first and F1 second. It's an interesting perspective, but story and atmosphere-wise F2 was pretty disappointing after coming from F1. F2 is bigger and has some system tweaks... and that's about it.

>> No.800858

>>796353
All 3 main canon games are good games.
Fallout 3 Isn't fucking canon, just fanfiction bullshit that got forced into canon

>> No.800862

>>800858
I agree. Fallout, Fallout 2 and Fallout Tactics are all great games.
Everything else is shit though.

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>>800862
That's not funny.

>> No.801036

>>800827
But that's kind of the point. I also played F2 first. And I also like it much more than the first one. So if your enjoyment of a game depends entirely on in which order you played them, can you really be objective about its qualities.

Also, keep in mind that a lot of game pundits seem to hold F3 in higher regard than New Vegas for this exact reason. New Vegas had the same gameplay as F3, but by that point you were sick of the mechanics because of how grindy F3 was. Thus people who just played F3 wont enjoy NV as much as people who never played F3. Despite NV being objectively better.

>> No.801223

>>797534
3 is a great game but a not-so-great Fallout game

>> No.801313

>>796353
It's a great game, same goes with Fallout 1,
but if you played 3 or New Vegas first you will have a hard time getting into them. It's worth it to try though.

>> No.801360

>>800862
This. Even for all their bugs and errors, the Fallout games are probably the pinnacle of RPG for me. The bugs and such just make the games even more interesting and discussion worthy.

>> No.801421

>>801036
I played Fallout 2 first and still think it can't compare to the first.
What now?

>> No.801436

>>801421
Now try Tactics. Then you'll have played all the classic ones. Next step after that is the modern Fallout 3, etc.

>> No.801447

>>796682
That map is fucked up.
F2 took place in north california.

>> No.801461

>>800812
>I played Fallout 2 first, so when I met Harold I was like "Whoa, who is this mysterious guy and what part is he going to play in this tale?". Then I played Fallout 1 and he was like some dude who got mutated in a military base and you don't hear much about that anymore and then he just gives you some tips if you're stuck if you give him some coins. Everything is little more one dimentional in FO1.
That's the dumbest reasoning ever, because Harold actually was just some dude that got mutated.
In Fallout 2 they said "Let's make some more Fallout references to make it feel more Fallout-sy" so they dug up this side-character and gave him some more background and personality, so people could go "Hey, it's that dude I spoke to in Fallout 1.".

>> No.801467

Anybody here play Wasteland or Fountain of Dreams?

>> No.801464

>>801436
>implying I haven't a long time ago

>> No.801539

>>796697
There are high resolution patches. Fallout 2 in 1920x1200 looks gorgeous, like most isometric games with detailed and not repetitive backgrounds.

>> No.801553

>>800862
>Everything else is shit though.
How about NV? It has very decent story, unlike abomination called Fallout 3, high replayability, memorable characters, interesting factions confrontation, very good F1's and F2's nuclear wasteland atmosphere.

>> No.801583

>>801553
What about the Van Buren demo? That looked amazing.

>> No.801586

>>801583
Wha about BOS?

>> No.801591

>>801586
Yeah, no. F3 is better than that abomination. But Van Buren did look legit good. You can find it online pretty easily.

>> No.801670

>>801583
Van Buren REALLY looked wondreful with great potential and other stuff.

>> No.801686

>>801591
You are wrong, sir. BOS is better than F3.

>> No.801768

>>801686
>plays game for 100+ hours
>"it's totally shit, guys, I swear"

>> No.801778

>>796682
That map is inaccurate as fuck

>> No.801785

>>800440
80% of the things on that pic are mods.

>> No.801790

>>796682
>necropolis on brotherhood hq

>> No.801792

>>801785
It's obviously hyperbole, genius.
Also your math skills suck.

>> No.801813
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As someone who played and finished Fallout 2 a year ago for the first time, I can say this without being nostalgia backing me up.

Fallout 2 is an improvement over Fallout, but still retains the problems it had with the first game, such as horrible slow starts, and the first 20 fights or so will be long, difficult and unlucky. Although, it does start off better, and the journey you take is much more interesting, the weapons you can obtain near the beginning are interesting, and depending on what you work on, can give you a much better game.

The companions are much better too, I never liked Ian mostly because he was weak and would fuck me up half the time. But in Fallout 2, you could have about 4 companions at a time, and since they pretty much double your firepower a lot of the fights become easier than they usually are.

Although, my only problem with Fallout 2 is that once you do the brotherhood mission about the Enclave, you get to the base, steal all their armour and weapons, and then finish the mission, and get fuck loads of armour and weapons from the brotherhood as well as 40000 exp to boot, after this part of the game, it becomes ridiculously easy to play, and kind of ruins the game in a way. I didn't mind though, since I loved having a lot of shit to use, although it become annoying since I had about 50 weapons I didn't use taking up space, and I didn't need anything, so selling them would have been useless, so I just stored them away, oh and the fact that the quests never tell you where to go, or what to do, so you might be using a guide once in a while.

Fallout 2 is a fun game if you like SRPG's in a way, it's fun, but can be frustration especially playing it on PC's these days since you have to download mods to make the game work in widescreen and not 640x480 or whatever ridiculous resolution it is. If you want to play it go for it, but don't give up after a few missions or so, I hated it at first, but it grew on me.

>> No.801848

>>801223
But it's better than New Vegas

>> No.801850

>>801848
No.

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>>801850
>mfw when nmafags still exist

>> No.801989

>>801945
>my nonexistent face when people still use "nmafag" to dismiss opinions they dislike

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>>801848
Yeah, much better

Polite sage for off topic

>> No.802174

>>797115
pretty sure he's an actual nostalgia fag. i.e he only plays games because they remind him of being 8 years old

>> No.802259

Fallout 2 I think gets it correct overall, F1 has better things, and visa versa. Biggest problem with F1 is its too fucking easy.

>>801813
>Fallout 2 is a fun game if you like SRPG's in a way, it's fun, but can be frustration especially playing it on PC's these days since you have to download mods to make the game work in widescreen and not 640x480 or whatever ridiculous resolution it is. If you want to play it go for it, but don't give up after a few missions or so, I hated it at first, but it grew on me.

Just use the NMA restoration project. All the needed shit in package, plus adds most of the cut content. Fixes all the fucking endings that were impossible to get. Stop you cheesing and getting the car too early. etc. etc.

>> No.802438

>>801989
This is not how you be a nostalgic hipster.

>> No.803472

>>801539
Yeah, but then you ruin the game as it was designed by the devs.

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>>797147
>>800497
>MFW Fallout 2 has implied underage sex in it because you can set your age as low as 16.

>> No.803563

>>803558
Can't you even produce child pornography?

>> No.803564

>out of the entire series

Nope, that honor goes to FO3 because it revived the series.

FO2 is the best of the retro Fallout though.

>> No.803570

>>803563
Yep, you can. To be fair to the game, if the world went post-apocalypse worse things would be happening in places like New Reno.

>> No.803591

>>801553
The engine is complete shit though. The game is barely playable without a ton of mods, and ok at best with them.

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>>803591
>The game is barely playable without a ton of mods
You're a retard, along with all the pretentious Fallout fans who believe that. The game is very playable. You just don't like the engine. I don't care for it either and I'd rather the game have the old engine, but I'm not stupid enough to say the game engine was unplayable. Bethesda needs to stop releasing open betas, though.

>> No.803614

>>803607
But it is. Just moving and navigating many locations (Vegas, any hills) is a chore, UI is shit that takes 10 times more time to navigate than it should, combat is a joke (built around VATS), your stats barely play a role in anything, bugs and glitches are on every turn after all the patches.
I like NV DESPITE the horrible engine.

>> No.803621

>>803614
> your stats barely play a role in anything

Not true. It was like that in FO3, here every weapon that you have too little skill or strength to use is useless.

>> No.803625

>>803621
Weapon strenght requirement, great. And it's not true anyway, it's just less effective and the game is so easy you won't even notice.
Meanwhile perception doesn't influence your accuracy.

>> No.803629

3 would have been a great game if not for the cretin, moron writing

but dont say you werent impressed when you left the vault, it was my first game in 5 years because I stopped playing vidya for that long and it blew me awawy

>> No.803630

>>803625
You can't his shit if you don't meat requirements, perception was also pretty useless in FO.

>> No.803631

>>803630
>perception was also pretty useless in FO.
Did you even play F1/2? With any character that uses shooting weapons?

>> No.803640

>>803621
>>803630
You can use grenades and launchers for the entire game with 3 strenght 15 explosives, same for shotguns and machine guns. You will suck with a sniper rifle if you have no guns, but come on.
The problem is that your primary stats should matter a little more than "take enough for perks/guns requirements" and a small skill boost.

>> No.803643

>>803631
4 perception, hit everything I wanted to hit.

>> No.803645

>>803643
With bozar maybe.

>> No.803678

>>803614
>Just moving and navigating many locations (Vegas, any hills) is a chore, UI is shit that takes 10 times more time to navigate than it should

It sounds a lot more like you're talking about Fallout 2, actually. Now THAT had shitty controls and UI.

>> No.803696

>>803678
>Fallout 2
>open inventory
>select item

>NV
>open pipboy
>loading animation
>open inventory
>loading animation
>select category
>scroll
>scroll
>scroll
>use item

>> No.803703

>>803696
You had to do plenty of scrolling in 2.

>> No.803721

>>803696
>Fallout 2
>open inventory
>select item
Come on. It was all click and drag, "selecting" didn't do shit other than to show you some stats. Also, the more items you acquired the more irritating it became to manage them, because your inventory was just one long vertical row of items that you had to scroll along to get a view of everything.
Really, I'm as big a fan of the original games as it gets, but they *did* have flaws, and the inventory system certainly was one of them.

Having said that, I think the new ones have shit inventories as well. I guess Fallout: Tactics was, oddly enough, the only one that got it halfway right with its category system.

>> No.803726

>>803721
Oh, definitely. F1/2 were not perfect UI wise (try picking up an item from the floor), but 3/NV are as bad if not worse 10 fucking years later. You also carry much more trash/vendor items in NV.

>> No.803727

>>803696
>Fallout 2
>open inventory
>select item
When was the last time you played Fallout 2? If you have any amount of items in your inventory, it's a huge pain the look through them all. If there was anything Fallout 3 and New Vegas do better than Fallout 1 and 2, it's inventory management.

>> No.803751

>>803726

Which get sorted as trash/misc items.

>> No.803757

>>803726
>but 3/NV are as bad if not worse 10 fucking years later.
Fair enough. Now that you mention it, it really does seem pitiful that the new ones have barely improved in this respect, considering they were released a decade later.

>> No.803852

>>803645
Nope with Sniper riffles, you can just dump points into skill and don't worry about anything. Low per just lowers already small distance modifiers. You are better with any stat but that except luck and charisma (if you don't like followers).

>> No.803857

>>803727
Actually, it's not done better. You still have to scroll a fuckton to find anything, because there are a million more items and the Pipboy fonts are huge.

>> No.803867

Fo2 is the best Fallout game.

>b-b-but muh deep dark nucluar wasteland plot

>> No.803870

>>803852
Ok, we can debate how much perception helps you to hit in F2, but it DOES affect your accuracy at distances. In NV you can be a sniper with 1 perception with the same efficiency as with 10.

>> No.803876

>>803870
Perception affects your radar which is a great way of avoiding ambushes. The system could be better but unlike FO3 stats do matter.
PS: Didn't know about grenade riffles, but couldn't hit with riffles either when I had skill on too low level.

>> No.803931

It's a good game soured by constant LOL HILARIOUS POP CULTURE REFERENCES XD.

Fallout 1 is vastly better. So is New Vegas.

>> No.804041

>>803931
You are stupid.

>> No.804103

FO1>FO2>FoNV>FO Tactics>Shit>>>>>>>>FO3>BoS

>> No.804108

>>804103
This nigga gets it.

>> No.804114

>>803857
3 and NV categorize and alphabetize the items. That by itself makes it much easier to navigate.

>> No.804137

>>804114
not retro but I just have to say that FO3/NV had the worst UI/inventory system I've ever seen in a video game and I seriously hope no one will do such unbelievable crap again.
I take Fallout's giant icon scrolling list mode and bartering with companions every day over such an ugly, messy and plain unusable inventory management.

>> No.804139

>>804041
Yeah. It's not like the pop culture references are so constant and intrusive they completely destroy the atmosphere Fallout 1 so expertly built up or anything... Oh wait! Yes they are!

Look at this shit: http://planetfallout.gamespy.com/wiki/Fallout_2_References

Holy Grail was funny, so having some characters in a totally unrelated game quote it verbatim is sure to be hilarious! The worst kind of nerdshit.

Just because you're too young to get 90% of the references it doesn't make them any less shit.

>> No.804272

>>804139
I thought Modoc was the worst in this regard with its references to Goonies and fucking Funny Farm. I don't even mind pop culture references that much in general, but many of the ones in FO2 were just way too in-your-face.

>> No.804313

>>803643
Except for anything more than 32 squares away because you can't see that far with PE 4.
Sniper Rifles for example have a range of 50.
There's also some perks that require high PE,
especially the sharpshooting ones.

>> No.805254

>>802259

I did, I played it in glorious 720p, and loved it.

I did play the original in 640x480 for about half the game, the amount of times it would crash or heat up my Laptop was incredible.

>> No.805854

1 > 3 > New Vegas > 2
But by all means that doesn't mean 2 isn't good, 2 is great

>> No.805868

>>797525
What is that? I don't know what you are talking about. Please take your shitty console released fan fiction out of here!

>> No.805879

>>800519
I think it's because it's made of or backed up with gold. They stop accepting it during the time of New Vegas because the Bros of Steel destroyed the NCRs gold reserves.

>> No.805913

I might be alone on this one, but I actually prefer the more silly elements of Fallout. I liked the silly stuff in Fallout 2, I liked the Mechanist vs. Antagonizer Quest in Fallout 3, Big MT was my favorite DLC quest, etc.

I thought Fallout 2 had a good deal of serious elements too, like the strife in New Reno, Vault City's elitism and how it was affecting everyone, and so on.

>>805879

I hope if Obsidian gets to make another Fallout again, they'll have it take place in Washington/Oregon, so you can visit places like Arroyo and Klamath at the bottom of the screen (the same way you could visit some Fallout 1 locations in Fallout 2.)

They could use the gold reserve destruction as an excuse to press northward, and have some sort of big gold mine as the goal that everyone is competing over.

>> No.805919

>>796381

What's wrong with tactics? It's a solid squad-based tactical game.

>hurr durr it's not an RPG

That's why it says "Tactics" and isn't part of main series. Might as well get annoyed at Mech Commander for doing the same thing.

>> No.806285

>>804139
You faggots were happy about this until reddit came along, now suddenly it's all
>muh maymeeys
>muh pop culture references
when you used to eat that shit up. Fallout 2 is the better game, the references spoiling it is an individual thing.

>> No.806293
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806293

>>806285

> You faggots were happy about this until reddit came along

Where the fuck does Reddit even apply to this? That dude is generally right about the pop culture stuff intruding into the atmosphere of the game.

When you and a midget are having a character breaking meta conversation about the games NPC's--you know something is crossing some sort of boundary

>> No.806346

>>804137
Then you're someone that would willingly use a shitty and objectively inferior system over another out of spite alone.

>> No.806991

>>805868
Duve yoi mubt nr tro[[om viz o, sty;zomg am ipi. BoS was fa bimn yo. Best ga,z of tkw yare all yvers. Cijecl thaw shot nizzwe.

>> No.807013

>>805919
Tactics is pretty awesome. It's JA lite in Fallout world, what's not to like. I wish it was more polished and had more variety (instead of guns>big guns>energy weapons and bandits>deathclaws>mutants>robots), but it's a good game anyway. It's a pity the engine is so hard to mod.

>> No.807032

>>806346
They both suck. The older games at least have the excuse of being old.

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807090

Guys, guys. Calm down. It's pretty easy.

Story: Fallout 1 > Fallout 2
Atmosphere: Fallout 1 > Fallout 2
World: Fallout 1 > Fallout 2
Gameplay: Fallout Tactics > Fallout 2 > Fallout 1

>> No.808532

Jesus Christ. I'm replaying Fallout 2 and I can't believe how buggy this game is. I guess I forgot about it for some reason. I had to restart the "Fix the Vault 13 computer" quest because the deathclaw at the entrance turned hostile for some reason right at the end.

>> No.808561

>>808532
Did you remember to patch the game? A lot of bugs were actually fixed in official patches. There's also fan patches that fix more of them.