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7940671 No.7940671 [Reply] [Original]

With the source code of Pokemon Ruby/Emerald being almost totally converted to C/C++ can we expect a PC port like SM64?

>> No.7940685

>>7940671
I don't see the purpose of porting gba games to pc
Everyone see content with the emulators

>> No.7940741

>>7940671
sauce

>> No.7940745

isnt it the gen after which pokemon became soulless

>> No.7941001

>>7940741
https://github.com/pret/

>> No.7941010

>>7940685
Wouldn't it be easier to implement changes and improvements without the limitations of the GBA?

>> No.7941012
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7941012

>>7940745
The soul was slowly being sucked out since day one.

>> No.7941072

>>7940745
>>7941012
Gen 3 and in particular Gen 2 had lots of soul

>> No.7941081

>>7941012
how do you save a file with a * ?

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7941091

>>7941081
Linux.

>> No.7941142

>>7941012
>3ds game looks better than shitch
kek

>> No.7941168

>>7941142
The Sword & Shield games look so fucking low effort it's insane.

>> No.7941171

>>7940671
Didn't someone do that already?
I saw a webm of some mod where you could fly around the overworld like in ORAS and the poster said it was only possible through a PC port. I don't have a source though.

>> No.7941254

Decompilations are going to be so kino over the next 5 years.

>> No.7941314

>>7941012
IMO the games had lots of soul up until Gen 3 which still has traces of the GBC games.
Gen 4 was when things went south.
If Silver had a Battle Frontier it'd be the perfect game.
GSC are the games you experience once and move to another game but Emerald can be replayed for a long time after the league thanks to the BF.

>> No.7941315

>>7941010
>Wouldn't it be easier to implement changes and improvements without the limitations of the GBA?
yes it may allow that, but if you really wanted to overhaul it a bunch it would seem easier to just use a whole new game engine instead of tweaking a reverse engineered of an old engine that was optimized for different very limited hardware.

>> No.7941326

>>7941142
& SM looked a lot batter than XY imo

>> No.7941336

>>7941314
>If Silver had a Battle Frontier it'd be the perfect game.
Are you talking about the DS remake? They do have Battle Frontier, different from the Platinum one.

>> No.7941342

>>7941336
But it suffers from being a 4th gen game and everything that implies (natures, EVs, IVs, stat splits, rules, all that shit) and being on a bad console (I hate the DS's build quality and buttons, makes playing games there physically painful on my hands)

>> No.7941352

>>7941012
Brendan had the coolest hair and most beautiful waifu. He's a lucky lad.

>> No.7941460

>>7941315
I know there are some people working on a Platinum remake from scratch, but I doubt it will ever be released.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNzFi1RglPc

>> No.7941468

>>7941460
i wish them luck but that art style offends me. not what i would do if was going to re/make a Pokemon game. voxels are not a good replacement for 2d sprites.

>> No.7941505

>>7941010
It could be, and there certainly might be some cool things that come out of it. But you can already do some really massive changes to gen 3, well outside the scope of what can run on native hardware. Radical Red for example

>> No.7941508

>>7941468
Looks like they are trying to do the 3D Dot Game Heroes style.

>> No.7941513
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7941513

>>7941314
>If Silver had a Battle Frontier it'd be the perfect game.
It's called Pokemon Stadium 2. Play it, it's comfy.

>> No.7943197

>>7941254
let it be known that the united states gubmin is incredibly based for contributing to game development in such a huge way

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>>7941460

>> No.7944024 [DELETED] 

>>7941010
>Wouldn't it be easier to implement changes
Go play a modern game zoomer

>> No.7944248 [DELETED] 

>>7944024
>Asking people to play modern games on a retro games board
Never go full retard bro

>> No.7944373 [DELETED] 

>>7943197
>let it be known that the zoomie zoomed

>> No.7944374

>>7941010
I mean Ruby/Sapphire and especially FireRed/LeafGreen already have tons of huge comprehensive romhacks and mods

>> No.7944382

>>7941012
No wonder I dropped this shit at Gen 4. Gen 3 was such a huge leap ahead in visuals and sound and Gen 4 barely felt like a noticeable change.

>> No.7944638

We already had one, but it's far from complete.
https://github.com/Sierraffinity/pokeemerald/tree/pc-port

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7944706

>>7940671
BTW In fact Pokemon Gen 3 was already written in C originally.

>> No.7944879

>>7944706
That means it can be ported to PC and every fucking console?

>> No.7944903

I know it's not worth the effort but I wish PC ports of decompiled SNES games were a thing because even though I don't have one anymore my dream was to play SNES games on my PSP.

>> No.7944913

>>7944879
Still relies on a few libraries that exist only for gba.
Would require some work but it is possible to get a tech demo working i guess

>> No.7944958

>>7940745
It was great all the way through gen 4. Gen 5 is when things started to feel different because they tried to make it international and stopped basing everything in japan, but it was still a good game. gen 6 was decent but extremely bland due to the shift to 3d and it has all been downhill from there.

i would say gen 5.

>> No.7945121

>>7944958
4 was the beginning of the end

>> No.7945198

>>7944879
You need to still reimplement all GBA system and library calls, reimplement low-level shit such as PPU and sound ports (maybe reusing some GBA emulator code) to make it to start.
the port in >>7944638 , based on the decompilation,
had reimplemented some calls for an SDL2 port but far from complete.

>> No.7945449 [DELETED] 

>>7944373
>he doesn't know

>> No.7945536 [DELETED] 

>>7945449
>i projected the zoom
>again
>You will immediately cease and not continue to access the site if you are under the age of 18.

>> No.7945673

>>7941142
Sun & Moon was pretty good, but not excellent, X & Y before it could have been better, and I have no goddamn idea what the fuck they did with Sword & Shield, it's a fucking mess.
>we need to have a copy of every single asset in the game for every single location cell, so that the filesize gets bloated to complete shit (hope this doesn't bother you, what with the Switch having a small storage capacity out of the box!)

I could maybe excuse this if they put a lot of effort into making the game look really good, and paid a lot of attention to detail, but they didn't, it really DOES look worse than the 3DS games.

>> No.7945725

>>7944958
gen 5 is still fine.
gen 6 introduced fairy type and made the games unplayable due to that

>> No.7945735

>>7945725
What's wrong with fairy type?
Wasn't it to balance Dragon and Fighting being overpowered?

>> No.7945742

>>7945735
now you have fairy being overpowered because it's super effective against everything that was strong before while also not taking any damage from dragon type
I stopped playing showdown after gen 6 due to this bullshit type
they should've balanced dragon making ice stronger, not by creating fairy

>> No.7945769

>>7945725
Almost never encounter fairy types, but then, I'm also not so fucking stupid as to play Pokémon in any kind of formal competitive setting like Smogon.

>> No.7945823

>>7941012
Gen 3 was such shit, my god.

>> No.7945842

>>7945823
The GBA had the resolution of a gnat's wing and it looked better at an appropriate pixel density.
Blown up on a big screen, yeah RSE especially look like shit.

>> No.7945845

>>7943197
>let it be known that this tj is assblasted

>> No.7945854

>>7945769
what do you even do after finishing the elite 4?

>> No.7945868

>>7945854
Play again with a different team

>> No.7945896

>>7945823
Gen 3 was the peak.

>>7945854
Fuck around for a while (some stuff gets unlocked after E4) and then play a different game. Pokémon only has so much mileage.

>> No.7945953

>>7945845
oh did the wittle baby get his comment deleted
nice projection, >muh need to re-reply

>> No.7946035

>>7945896
I prefer the darker tone of gen 2. 3 has the problem of being on the GBA where everything needed to be bright as shit. Johto is just a cooler place than Hoenn if you ask me.

>> No.7946037

>>7940745
No, it's the gen when Pokemon became soulless

>> No.7946056

>>7940671
How in the hell do people decompile games?

>> No.7946068

>>7946056
the NSA gave out a powerful decompiler software and indie devs have taken to using it to run on old games, Mario 64 has already been completed, Zelda OoT & MM are being worked on

>> No.7946105

>>7946068
Based NSA. That's pretty cool.

>> No.7946229

>>7946068
More people use IDA to bootstrap their GBA decomps than Ghidra. They should switch to Ghidra though, IMO.

>> No.7946581

>>7941012
>8 pokemon generations
>9 pictures
>gen 1, 2, 3, 3 (again), 4, 4 (again!), 5 part 2 (black and white 1 not represented at all for some reason), gen 6 (but no RS remakes), gen 7 (potato quality), and no gen 8 at all.

Either show one from each generation, or show every single main line game. This image is terrible and you should feel bad about posting it.

>> No.7946591

>>7941513
Based anon

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7946617

>>7946581
No, fuck you.

>> No.7946635

>>7945896
>Gen 3 was the peak.
How can anything be a "peak" when they're removing all the goddamned features?

>> No.7946640

>>7946635
>removed the day/night cycle
>kept the clock anyway
pure laziness

>> No.7946647

>>7946640
>>7946635
gen 3 is the worst fucking one, god damn fuck that shit and everyone who thinks emerald is better than ORAS

>> No.7946696

>>7946640
>>7946647
If it meant keeping 90% of features from Gen 2 (including Day/Night), I'd have gladly taken noticeably worse graphics. Ya know?

>> No.7947703

>>7945953
>oh did the wittle baby mad without power
It's mad 24/7/365. Because it knows it's nothing.

>> No.7947745

>>7941012
in terms of appearance, gen 3 was the peak. it was a sharp and swift downhill after there.

>> No.7948020

>>7944879
>>7944913

Ok, i get it!! thank you guys very informative!!

>> No.7948051

>>7941012
Gen 3 actually was a downgrade from gen 2 lmaaaooooo

>> No.7949395

>>7944913
I hope something like https://github.com/Emill/n64-fast3d-engine/ shows up for GBA

>> No.7949697

>>7941012
>3D pokemon looks worse than detective pikachu

>> No.7949791

>>7946640
Or because the original GBA screen was such horseshit you wouldn't be able to see anything with night time graphics

>> No.7950146

>>7947745
Who cares about appearance when the gameplay is regressing? I didn't even grow up with Gen 2 and I still think it was the best.

>> No.7950156

>>7949791
They had a perfectly fucking capable GCN, just sitting right on the shelf. And, even assuming The Pokemon Company forced their hand, it's called color management; it exists for just this kind of scenario. Color management not an option? Pull a Minish Cap and bake in a fake "Brightness Adjust" menu. I refuse to believe that there was no alternative but cutting the feature outright when I can think of at least three inside of five minutes.

>> No.7950192

>>7949791
The sunny and rainy weather are essentially the same thing, just limited to certain routes.

>> No.7951853

>>7940671
>can we expect a PC port like SM64?
Never

>> No.7952045

>>7951853
Don't see why not, wouldn't a game like this be quite a lot easier to port compared to a full fledged 3D platformer like Super Mario 64? Worst case you can just remake it from scratch with the assets taken from the rom

>> No.7952770

>>7944903
yeah nothing beat a native port even when emulators were created to almost replicate the hardware on your PC

>> No.7952958

>>7941352
Wasn't his hair. It's a hat.

>> No.7953604

>>7951853
Why not?

>> No.7953662

>>7940671
What, exactly, would you hope to be better natively on PC compared to emulation? You can save state, fast forward, edit saves, any sort of thing you could imagine. Maybe more visibility/zoomed out view, or some garrish "HD" mod?

>> No.7953678

>>7941010
Eh, having the source code is the more important factor there. Though the pokefans have made so much tooling for their shit games already.